MyFreeCams Search/Sorting

[AmberCutie]

While I do think MFC could benefit from a better search function, it's probably safe to say that sorting models by relationship status will never be implemented.
MFC is not a dating site, doesn't claim to be a dating site, and while it is within a premiums rights to prefer to watch single models exclusively, sorting by relationship status will give members the wrong idea and surely MFC is aware of this.

Not to mention, it will not help. At all.
Models who are in committed relationships or marriages present themselves as single all the time. There are single models who also claim to be in a relationship or married on cam.
By requesting that sorting be available this way, you're operating under the assumption that everyone is going to be honest about it, which just won't happen.

Just the same as it is within your right to prefer to watch single models, it is within a models rights to feel as though her relationship status doesn't matter in the camming world and to keep that part of her life a secret.

So what you're saying is, it's perfectly fine that many guys on MFC are only interested in models who are single, but it's also perfectly fine if models who are not single lie to those guys to get their tokens?

Since MFC is a place for girls to supply viewers with a sexy fantasy, pretending to be single can be and is a huge part of a role many cam girls will play in order to be successful.

Yes.

It's not OK to lead a member on to think they will meet up or become something more, though, but that still happens too. Not everyone plays a clean game.

The MFC search feature can be pretty sucky, on chrome I have to type a models name exactly, with capital letters and _ if there are any (which I may not be aware of) or else I get zero results, while on opera i can type what I want and it searches fine.
When you own, develop or admin sites one thing you always do is test it across all browser platforms, if it doesn't work in one but it does the others you don't let that one slide, you hone it until it works on all.

Works fine in Chrome. Any substring of any model's name brings up all models matching that substring.

Your last sentence doesn't resemble reality. All browser platforms is a ridiculously huge number of browsers/device combinations. There's probably some specific issue causing your particular problem.

I have no problem with Chrome and the search box on the homepage, either. Type in a few letters of a word or name I'm looking for, and I get all models with that string in their name, as well as room topics and model tags with the string in it.

If we're discussing the profile search, I don't use that so dunno if that's an issue.

 

[Joeternal]

Since MFC is a place for girls to supply viewers with a sexy fantasy, pretending to be single can be and is a huge part of a role many cam girls will play in order to be successful.

Yes.

It's not OK to lead a member on to think they will meet up or become something more, though, but that still happens too. Not everyone plays a clean game.

I think you're wrong here. You're honest about your relationship status. That's cool. Lying to someone to get their tokens is not cool. In fact, it's a form of fraud. Granted MFC members generally go into it assuming this is happening, but that doesn't actually make it right.

 

[NoelleBright]

Since MFC is a place for girls to supply viewers with a sexy fantasy, pretending to be single can be and is a huge part of a role many cam girls will play in order to be successful.

Yes.

It's not OK to lead a member on to think they will meet up or become something more, though, but that still happens too. Not everyone plays a clean game.

I think you're wrong here. You're honest about your relationship status. That's cool. Lying to someone because you know you wouldn't get their tokens otherwise is not cool. In fact, it's a form of fraud. Granted MFC members generally go into it assuming this is happening, but that doesn't actually make it right.

This is just getting laughable, now.
MFC is a FANTASY.
FANTASY.

Girls also log on saying they're horny to make tokens when they may actually be tired and stressed and sore.
Is this fraud too?

 

[Joeternal]

I agree with everything you expressed.

The MFC search feature can be pretty sucky, on chrome I have to type a models name exactly, with capital letters and _ if there are any (which I may not be aware of) or else I get zero results, while on opera i can type what I want and it searches fine.
When you own, develop or admin sites one thing you always do is test it across all browser platforms, if it doesn't work in one but it does the others you don't let that one slide, you hone it until it works on all.

Just to reiterate: all of the information in question is already included by MFC on model's profiles. Their functionality for searching and filtering on those attributes is useless.

As far as the OP getting pounced on for his wording, he's said he's not looking for a gf or wife etc in a later clarification.
But if he was, so what ?
It's not like people don't meet. I know 2 models from here that met their husbands camming and have been married 5+ years now, and another site admin from the us who made the move to Romania.
What about the "date raffle" ? Maybe a model says she's gonna be at the convention in Vegas in January and has a raffle to meet up & go on a dinner date with the winner, posts pics of her & the smiling member too.
These things are not the norm, they are the exception to the rule.
MFC is not a dating site but in the models tos it states (at least the last time I read it) that MFC wasn't going to get in the way of people socializing and becoming friendly outside of the site.
And if he doesn't meet a gf or wife then maybe he's enriched some models life for a few months.
Personally I feel the enrichment part goes on more often and has a higher ratio compared to the "stalker" aspect.

The OP for all intents and purposes is potentially some models whale, her bread and butter. I wouldn't blame him if he had a bad taste in his mouth now.

I posted MFC's official statements on these subjects earlier in the thread. They make it clear that their intent is to provide a place where members and models can do whatever they want, as long as it's not illegal. So it's true to say that MFC is not a dating site. It's also true to say that it is. It's up to each model and member to decide whether it is or not.

As I already explained, I've had a few models express interest in taking things to another level. I also know other people who have done it. I haven't taken that leap. I'm hesitant. The main reason, as should now be obvious from this thread, is that it would take a lot for me to be convinced that I could trust a cam girl. Just as I assume it would take a lot for a cam girl to be convinced she could trust the guy. That's the crux of the issue. :twocents-02cents:

 

[theRileyDaniels]

Since MFC is a place for girls to supply viewers with a sexy fantasy, pretending to be single can be and is a huge part of a role many cam girls will play in order to be successful.

Yes.

It's not OK to lead a member on to think they will meet up or become something more, though, but that still happens too. Not everyone plays a clean game.

I think you're wrong here. You're honest about your relationship status. That's cool. Lying to someone to get their tokens is not cool. In fact, it's a form of fraud. Granted MFC members generally go into it assuming this is happening, but that doesn't actually make it right.

See I disagree with this generally. I work on Streamate, and most of the time when I guy asks if Im single, I say yes. Not because im seeking to lie to them, but because most men on streamate are not there for the conversation, they want the fantasy. Its a business choice, nothing more.

 

[VeronicaChaos]

Dammit, Joe! People were just starting to defend you and then you have to say something like that.

I'm a big fraud because my name isn't really VeronicaChaos. Also, once I marry my dummy, I'll be a big giant fraud because the marriage won't be legal. :shhh:

Fuck it, let's sue Hollywood!

 

[AmberCutie]

Since MFC is a place for girls to supply viewers with a sexy fantasy, pretending to be single can be and is a huge part of a role many cam girls will play in order to be successful.

Yes.

It's not OK to lead a member on to think they will meet up or become something more, though, but that still happens too. Not everyone plays a clean game.

I think you're wrong here. You're honest about your relationship status. That's cool. Lying to someone to get their tokens is not cool. In fact, it's a form of fraud. Granted MFC members generally go into it assuming this is happening, but that doesn't actually make it right.

Yeah, the word fantasy changes things. I get what you're saying, but it doesn't apply in the sense of fantasy. What you're suggesting is almost like saying that when a porno DVD is marketed as "single teen gets gangbanged" and it turns out in real life that she's over 20 and married that you were duped out of your money when you bought it. It holds no water because it's a fantasy that you're buying.

 

[JJasione]

Since MFC is a place for girls to supply viewers with a sexy fantasy, pretending to be single can be and is a huge part of a role many cam girls will play in order to be successful.

Yes.

It's not OK to lead a member on to think they will meet up or become something more, though, but that still happens too. Not everyone plays a clean game.

I think you're wrong here. You're honest about your relationship status. That's cool. Lying to someone to get their tokens is not cool. In fact, it's a form of fraud. Granted MFC members generally go into it assuming this is happening, but that doesn't actually make it right.

Aside from the fantasy aspect- My relationship status is currently somewhere in the middle and has been for a very long time. I pass as single on MFC because I don't want to take a billion questions on it, and frankly it is nobody's business. I wouldn't answer questions about my personal life in any other line of work and just because this one involves sex doesn't mean members are any more entitled to be familiar with my personal life.

And I'm sure that's a point most girls here will have already made :twocents-02cents:

 

[RainyDayGuy]

I agree that MFC is not a dating site. Except for when it is.

 

[Joeternal]

Since MFC is a place for girls to supply viewers with a sexy fantasy, pretending to be single can be and is a huge part of a role many cam girls will play in order to be successful.

Yes.

It's not OK to lead a member on to think they will meet up or become something more, though, but that still happens too. Not everyone plays a clean game.

I think you're wrong here. You're honest about your relationship status. That's cool. Lying to someone because you know you wouldn't get their tokens otherwise is not cool. In fact, it's a form of fraud. Granted MFC members generally go into it assuming this is happening, but that doesn't actually make it right.

This is just getting laughable, now.
MFC is a FANTASY.
FANTASY.

Girls also log on saying they're horny to make tokens when they may actually be tired and stressed and sore.
Is this fraud too?

That could be a good topic for discussion, maybe in another thread. Where is the line? I've got to go out to dinner, but I'll try to get back to this later.

 

[AmberCutie]

Since MFC is a place for girls to supply viewers with a sexy fantasy, pretending to be single can be and is a huge part of a role many cam girls will play in order to be successful.

Yes.

It's not OK to lead a member on to think they will meet up or become something more, though, but that still happens too. Not everyone plays a clean game.

I think you're wrong here. You're honest about your relationship status. That's cool. Lying to someone because you know you wouldn't get their tokens otherwise is not cool. In fact, it's a form of fraud. Granted MFC members generally go into it assuming this is happening, but that doesn't actually make it right.

This is just getting laughable, now.
MFC is a FANTASY.
FANTASY.

Girls also log on saying they're horny to make tokens when they may actually be tired and stressed and sore.
Is this fraud too?

That could be a good topic for discussion, maybe in another thread. Where is the line? I've got to go out to dinner, but I'll try to get back to this later.

I do believe there has been threads in the past that dealt in this heavily. Anyone recall one off the bat and can find/link it?

 

[JoleneBrody]

Son of a bitch! I reinstate my previous post about educating about the cam world for the greater good of all perv kind.

The lame post is on reserve.

 

[Alexandra Cole]

Some might lie about their relationship status to protect their partner. Some might lie as part of a larger strategy to protect their identity. Some might lie because the question's intrusive. I prefer to be honest, but honesty can be a form of recklessness. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it.

I'd like to think that if a member-model relationship ever reaches the "should we meet?" stage, they already know one another well enough to eliminate most of these questions. And if there's no intention of meeting, then I'd like to think that members can understand why a model wouldn't be forthcoming about the people in her life, and how involved or uninvolved she might be.

 

[NoelleBright]

I'm curious though, if you did happen to get a girlfriend via MFC, would you then urge her to advertise her new relationship status on cam even though it may cost her money, or would you be okay with her keeping it a secret?

 

[mynameisbob84]

So what you're saying is, it's perfectly fine that many guys on MFC are only interested in models who are single, but it's also perfectly fine if models who are not single lie to those guys to get their tokens?

It's a grey area, innit. Models are ultimately selling a fantasy, and part of that fantasy may well be that model's availability. In actuality, she might be married with two kids, but there's nothing to say that's who she has to be on cam. It would be naïve to think there aren't plenty of models who lie about their relationship status with the sole intent of increasing the likelihood of hapless members walking into the trap of thinking they have a shot with them and tipping/gifting twice as much as a result. But I don't think it would be fair to suggest that every model who lists themselves as being single when they're actually not is a con artist. There are any number of perfectly justifiable reasons for doing as much ranging from "it's none of their business who I'm fucking in my spare time" to "it's not my fault if they can't separate fantasy from reality". Plus, there's a world of difference between a model listing herself as single on her profile and then never speaking of her relationship status in her room and a model going out of her way to lead individual members on with promises of sloppy blowjobs and bacon breakfasts if they just buy her x or tip her y.

 

[The Insider]

Works fine in Chrome. Any substring of any model's name brings up all models matching that substring.

Your last sentence doesn't resemble reality. All browser platforms is a ridiculously huge number of browsers/device combinations. There's probably some specific issue causing your particular problem.

Well what can I say, it doesn't work the same way for me in chrome as it does for you, if a models name is for example "Tatiana" and i type "tatiana" i'll get zero results.

As far as the browser testing part what I do is as I progress on a site I'm making I will view it on chrome, ie, opera, safari etc to make sure it appears uniform to each.

It happens, but it doesn't happen to guys who go to camsites actively looking for a relationship.
If you go in with that expectation, camgirls can sniff it out in .00001 seconds and will write you off entirely.
When you turn MFC into a naked video catalog of potential girlfriends, you collectively dry up every single vagina.
:twocents-02cents:

Correct, everyone I do know that hooked up in rl/married etc began as a casual friendly relationship, very low key.
The guys that change their names to incorporate a models name into theirs, spend every day in their rooms & blow all of their 3rd mortgage on a model never get the girl

If we're discussing the profile search, I don't use that so dunno if that's an issue.

Thats what I meant, it's my personal peeve (the issues I have) and not directly related to the overall search feature

 

[Sevrin]

So what you're saying is, it's perfectly fine that many guys on MFC are only interested in models who are single, but it's also perfectly fine if models who are not single lie to those guys to get their tokens?

Hell, yeah! I have to admit that I'm one of those who's not crazy about the idea of frequenting openly committed models. On the other hand, I have no problem with the idea of a model lying about her marital status, as long as she's good at keeping her story straight.

Being an internet fantasy girl is a J.O.B. It's not some kind of vocation like being a nun, and models don't take a vow to be celibate. A model shouldn't be expected to hang up her dildo simply because she finds a life partner, nor should having a partner one mean that she can't start camming. Webcam modeling is about providing simulated intimacy of some kind. Physical or emotional or whatever. It's fantasy. As long as you agree with that basic premise, there is no reason not to suspend disbelief while you are in a model's room and have a nice time.

 

[Joeternal]

I'm curious though, if you did happen to get a girlfriend via MFC, would you then urge her to advertise her new relationship status on cam even though it may cost her money, or would you be okay with her keeping it a secret?

Now you're really digging deep.

It would take a very special person, and a very unique situation, for me to take that step. She would have to be someone who isn't extremely attached to camming as an ongoing part of her life.

If it was early in the relationship, I wouldn't be urging her to do anything one way or another. It would be totally up to her. But if things got serious enough between us and she didn't want to quit, at some point she would have to choose between camming and me.

My eyes are wide open when it comes to cam girls. I'm also old-fashioned when it comes to relationships (although I'm not old) , and I'm a romantic. I make no bones about it.

 

[Joeternal]

So what you're saying is, it's perfectly fine that many guys on MFC are only interested in models who are single, but it's also perfectly fine if models who are not single lie to those guys to get their tokens?

Hell, yeah! I have to admit that I'm one of those who's not crazy about the idea of frequenting openly committed models. On the other hand, I have no problem with the idea of a model lying about her marital status, as long as she's good at keeping her story straight.

Being an internet fantasy girl is a J.O.B. It's not some kind of vocation like being a nun, and models don't take a vow to be celibate. A model shouldn't be expected to hang up her dildo simply because she finds a life partner, nor should having a partner one mean that she can't start camming. Webcam modeling is about providing simulated intimacy of some kind. Physical or emotional or whatever. It's fantasy. As long as you agree with that basic premise, there is no reason not to suspend disbelief while you are in a model's room and have a nice time.

The way I've always looked at it is this: if she lies to me about being single, it's on her, not me. But if it becomes clear that she's been lying about it (and it always does if you spend enough time with a model), she won't be seeing me anymore. That's just the way I roll.

 

[Brad]

Since MFC is a place for girls to supply viewers with a sexy fantasy, pretending to be single can be and is a huge part of a role many cam girls will play in order to be successful.

Yes.

It's not OK to lead a member on to think they will meet up or become something more, though, but that still happens too. Not everyone plays a clean game.

I think you're wrong here. You're honest about your relationship status. That's cool. Lying to someone because you know you wouldn't get their tokens otherwise is not cool. In fact, it's a form of fraud. Granted MFC members generally go into it assuming this is happening, but that doesn't actually make it right.

This is just getting laughable, now.
MFC is a FANTASY.
FANTASY.

Girls also log on saying they're horny to make tokens when they may actually be tired and stressed and sore.
Is this fraud too?

That could be a good topic for discussion, maybe in another thread. Where is the line? I've got to go out to dinner, but I'll try to get back to this later.

I do believe there has been threads in the past that dealt in this heavily. Anyone recall one off the bat and can find/link it?

This is a fairly recent one I thought of when I read your question Amber.

https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/viewt ... 15&t=16082

 

[Brad]

I'm curious though, if you did happen to get a girlfriend via MFC, would you then urge her to advertise her new relationship status on cam even though it may cost her money, or would you be okay with her keeping it a secret?

Now you're really digging deep.

It would take a very special person, and a very unique situation, for me to take that step. She would have to be someone who isn't extremely attached to camming as an ongoing part of her life.

If it was early in the relationship, I wouldn't be urging her to do anything one way or another. It would be totally up to her. But if things got serious enough between us and she didn't want to quit, at some point she would have to choose between camming and me.

My eyes are wide open when it comes to cam girls. I'm also old-fashioned when it comes to relationships (although I'm not old) , and I'm a romantic. I make no bones about it.

Just my opinion but if you wouldn't ever want to be in a relationship with a cam model then you shouldn't even ever consider dating a cam model.
:dontknow:

Watch them, tip them, chat with them, and enjoy the entertainment that these lovely ladies provide, but leave it at that. Save the dating for non cam models as there are plenty of them in the world to choose from too.
:thumbleft:

 

[Joeternal]

I'm curious though, if you did happen to get a girlfriend via MFC, would you then urge her to advertise her new relationship status on cam even though it may cost her money, or would you be okay with her keeping it a secret?

Now you're really digging deep.

It would take a very special person, and a very unique situation, for me to take that step. She would have to be someone who isn't extremely attached to camming as an ongoing part of her life.

If it was early in the relationship, I wouldn't be urging her to do anything one way or another. It would be totally up to her. But if things got serious enough between us and she didn't want to quit, at some point she would have to choose between camming and me.

My eyes are wide open when it comes to cam girls. I'm also old-fashioned when it comes to relationships (although I'm not old) , and I'm a romantic. I make no bones about it.

Just my opinion but if you wouldn't ever want to be in a relationship with a cam model then you shouldn't even ever consider dating a cam model.
:dontknow:

Watch them, tip them, chat with them, and enjoy the entertainment that these lovely ladies provide, but leave it at that. Save the dating for non cam models as there are plenty of them in the world to choose from too.
:thumbleft:

Thanks for the advice. :thumbleft:

 

[mutantdonut]

I do believe there has been threads in the past that dealt in this heavily. Anyone recall one off the bat and can find/link it?

Here's one of recent memory... even delved into possible lawsuits for fraud

https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/viewt ... raud+false

 

[JJasione]

Why on earth would you enter a relationship with your "eyes wide open" about what a girl does and then expect her to give it up for you? Camming has bugger all to do with romance.

Personally I'd be furious if my boyfriend/almost boyfriend gave me any such ultimatum but aside from the multitude of other things i enjoy about my job, if I was about to even consider giving it up for him I'd expect him to replace my wage.

I'd also be pretty mad that despite meeting me through my job and being an active user of camgirls he'd suddenly decide he was above being with me because I'm one.

 

[mutantdonut]

If it was early in the relationship, I wouldn't be urging her to do anything one way or another. It would be totally up to her. But if things got serious enough between us and she didn't want to quit, at some point she would have to choose between camming and me.

The way i read this was, "Girl, i'm giving you the choice early on to continue camming if you want, but if we're in this thing deep then the choice is gonna be made by me."

No compromising whatsoever? I'm sorry but it just sounded uber selfish and filled with contradictions

 

[Sevrin]

If it was early in the relationship, I wouldn't be urging her to do anything one way or another. It would be totally up to her. But if things got serious enough between us and she didn't want to quit, at some point she would have to choose between camming and me.

The way i read this was, "Girl, i'm giving you the choice early on to continue camming if you want, but if we're in this thing deep then the choice is gonna be made by me."

No compromising whatsoever? I'm sorry but it just sounded uber selfish and filled with contradictions

She'd also have to change her name to EternallyJoes.

 

[Joeternal]

If it was early in the relationship, I wouldn't be urging her to do anything one way or another. It would be totally up to her. But if things got serious enough between us and she didn't want to quit, at some point she would have to choose between camming and me.

The way i read this was, "Girl, i'm giving you the choice early on to continue camming if you want, but if we're in this thing deep then the choice is gonna be made by me."

No compromising whatsoever? I'm sorry but it just sounded uber selfish and filled with contradictions

Since I gave a short answer, I'll expand on it.

I'm not interested in being in a long term relationship with a cam girl. I've talked to many of them over the course of the past several years, and they all have different attitudes about camming. Some are like, "Yeah, I'm doing this right now, but I don't want to do it forever. I want to get married and have kids", etc. Some are like, "Camming is my life! It's the greatest thing ever! I'll never give it up!".

In a few of the cases I mentioned, that was the deciding factor in me not pursuing it. I knew it wouldn't work. I wasn't going to open that can of worms. A couple of models in particular were very blunt about the fact that they were just looking for a "fuck buddy". If that's all I wanted, I wouldn't be trying to start it up with somebody who lives hundreds or thousands of miles away. A relationship that has no future isn't worth that kind of time and expense, no matter how hot she is.

Like I said, it would take a very specific situation, and a very special person, for me to consider trying to take things offline.

 

[JoleneBrody]

YOU are kind of a can of worms sir.

 

[NoelleBright]

Soooo, let me understand this.
Do you not want to watch models who aren't single because you think it's morally wrong for a model to cam while in a relationship?
OR
Do you only watch single models because you want the option to escalate the relationship if you so choose (if she is REALLY SUPER SPECIAL OMG), at which point you would give her an ultimatum and try to make her leave her job and presumably her only source of income even though you knew this was what she chose to do for a living when you entered into the whole situation?

 

[JoleneBrody]

I'll add that I think it's TOTALLY understandable to prefer camgirls who do not openly discuss their relationships, on a fantasy level. I could see why having a SO thrown in your face could kind of ruin the fantasy and fun for some members...
That is TOTALLY respectable. This now, in the last page just seems weird and unhealthy for everyone involved.