Miss Myfreecams... Your thoughts?

[LoonaVision]

What do you think about miss myfreecams nowadays?
I try to stay away from all the drama but I am in touch with some girls who try to get in top 20 once in a while and I hear crazy stories from them.
Maybe I don't understand something, but why is it so important for girls to be in top 20 so they pour shit on each other?
Miss mfc is not miss universe, mfc is only a porn site with sort of shady reputation.
I can't even say that miss mfc is a fair contest, nobody votes, only tokens matter and with ability of self tipping it doesn't make much sense.
I think Its not a healthy competition anymore...

 

[TacoBelle]

The MissMFC contest is one of the best ideas that MFC has ever had. It drives the competitive nature of most men all so they can feel like they're "helping" their favorite model. While it really sucks for girls that are lower in the ranks (guys spend tokens in higher rooms, so richer gets richer, poorer gets poorer), it is still a HUGE factor in making guys purchase and spend tokens.

It is a fair contest, because of the fact that votes aren't included. It is purely saying who made the most money all month. Self-tipping can be done, but to move up even ONE place in the top 100 can sometimes be $1000+, so anyone who wanted to self-tip would have to spend nearly double that to buy tokens. It just wouldn't be logical for ONE place movement. Yeah, it might be done, but they'd be almost stupid to do it at those levels anyway, so you shouldn't worry yourself about it.

Do some camgirls talk shit about each other? Yes. Do some camgirls like to make their regulars feel like heroes? Yes. Do some camgirls like to stir up drama to increase publicity and therefore tips? Of course. And some guys love that. Is it a shitty thing to do? Of course. But it happens. It's similar to when politicians run against each other. Some of them are strictly professional, addressing what they will/won't do when they run for office. Others like to bring up their competitions' pasts/mistakes/etc and sometimes outright lie just to win votes. It happens because there are people out there who thrive on the drama.

I wouldn't say that MFC has a shady reputation, so maybe you've just been looking at the shitty forums and whatnot that hate on ALL camgirls??


Although I'm usually not high up in the rankings, I can still embrace the MissMFC contest for what it is: a spectacular and genius way to make even more money.

 

[Lila Brooks]

Like I_Am_Iris said, it's a contest for who can make the most amount of tokens per month. If you don't agree with how those girls make their money, that's fine. You're under no obligation to do everything the way they do. And if moving up a place in the contest is important enough for them to spend their own money on it, why shouldn't they? It makes them happy and doesn't effect 99.99% of the other models on the site in any way.

I'd just say stop thinking about it and focus on your own hustle and room

 

[fandango]

I saw yesterday in Kickaz room someone dropped 450k tokens about 2 minutes before it ended and it made no difference at all. If it wasn't for the Miss Myfreecams competition he would probably never have done that. Kickaz would have had that much less and so would MFC and I imagine the number 1 model obviously had people dropping even bigger bombs throughout the month.

It's not my cup of tea and I dont normally ever go to the "top" rooms but the competition aspect is a stroke of business genius from MFC and to be honest I'm surprised none of the other main camsites have copied it with their own similar version.

 

[BasicBasic]

Miss FreeCams is a marketting tool and one of the most effective. It's the main 'gimmick' for many models and it really does work. "Let's get to the top 100 guys". Camscore, ratings, admires etc... are all marketting tools as well. I question if this OhMyBod thing is even real either..
Does it really matter? I don't know... it's like the "best blowjob" award at AVN. It depends if the ratings achieve something themselves. Are the Oscars real, fixed or even important? Most professions don't have awards but performance art is one that almost certainly wants to stroke it's own members. Mainly to generate more business. The same could be said for most holidays in our lives like Christmas, Valentines day or birthdays. Consumers can be easily trained to spend money.
Is MissFreeCams fair? NO. You can buy it for X amount of money. Or your billionaire sugardaddy can get it for you. From what I've seen through time, it's important to viewers and they actually believe it's real. Sort of the Santa Claus effect, where it's best just to buy into the fantasy rather than push back with reality. Whatever gets them buying and tipping tokens is okay in MFC land. Whatever keeps it FREE for ME is OKAY.
Are viewers and models pissed about how the game is being played? YES. It's obvious that top models can 'tip' the playing field in their favor and they don't even try to hide or blend their tactics anymore. I can see a future where the winner doesn't even appear in freechat for the month in question. Or even come online other than to collect the booty.
For myself, I just see it as a reminder of the "show" of MFC. Like the curtain being pulled back on the Wizard of Oz.
I enjoy the bitching about it more than the actual competition.

 

[BasicBasic]

btw.. I just found out I've been award with cake here in the forum. I'd like to thank ACF and all my fans for this cake.

 

[AmberCutie]

The MissMFC contest is one of the best ideas that MFC has ever had. It drives the competitive nature of most men all so they can feel like they're "helping" their favorite model.

Miss FreeCams is a marketting tool and one of the most effective. It's the main 'gimmick' for many models and it really does work. "Let's get to the top 100 guys".

Without the Miss MFC competition I would probably never have been as successful in this camming game, and it's possible that MFC may not be as popular among camsites, either. It's pure genius, and it works.
As a cam girl, I find it is a HUGE tool in making token goals. And success begets success, so those months that I have a good rank and keep pushing to maintain it, the tokens really do come easier as everyone wants to help out and keep the excitement alive. Seeing that rank improve does wonders for our motivation and morale. On the flip side of that coin, seeing it drop consistently can easily bring a girl down. It is a tool that needs to be used wisely and consider these pros and cons of it.

I wouldn't say that MFC has a shady reputation, so maybe you've just been looking at the shitty forums and whatnot that hate on ALL camgirls??

People like to dwell on the tiniest of details that make the site/owner appear less than squeaky-clean and turn it into something huge. According to mainstream public opinion, almost everything in the adult industry is "shady". People who are unhappy with their experience with it blow "shady" details of it out of proportion.

I think Its not a healthy competition anymore...

It never was "healthy". Even back when it only took 1/8 of the tokens it takes now, girls still pushed themselves too hard and/or pushed their members too hard to spend in order to get higher in rank. Just because it's in the millions of tokens now doesn't mean it's any worse, it's just on a larger scale with a much bigger reward.

When it comes down to it, even people who claim they hate the Miss MFC competition fucking LOVE it because they thrive on the drama of it.

 

[JickyJuly]

I think it's smart and nothing to complain about. It's competition, and it's capitalism. If it makes you uncomfortable or bothered as a model or a member, there are plenty of other sites that will likely fit your wants better. Is it fair? Fair enough. Everyone has the same rules. This might sound a bit harsh, but I think grown folks need to stop using the word "fair" about trivial things. This is for sure a trivial thing. Miss MFC is a game that very few people win. That's how most games work once you're over 18 though, isn't it? Understanding the wealth distribution of MFC is great for a camgirl, but insisting it should be different is silly. We're working adults with every opportunity to look elsewhere for employment not children that need to have their wants placated.

 

[AmberCutie]

As far as the recent bitching on social media about it:

Of course many people would always prefer to see "winners" be the most upstanding, good-natured, hard-working models. People have all sorts of judgments about what sort of behavior a top girl should exhibit, how many hours they should have to put in (even being as nitpicky as to decide how many of those hours should be in public/private/group), how many tippers should contribute to the overall success, and what style of shows the girl should perform while she's online.

It's quite frequently the fans/members of a model who placed just below another that pass the harshest judgments on those above her throughout the month and especially at the end. Of course every participating member wants to see their girl move up and succeed at her rank goals, but man can they sure stir some drama if she doesn't end up where they want her. It gets even uglier if the girls participate in public rants with their members about it, though...

But again, it could all be part of the game for them to be abundantly vocal about both their wins and fails. @I_Am_Iris said it well:

Do some camgirls talk shit about each other? Yes. Do some camgirls like to make their regulars feel like heroes? Yes. Do some camgirls like to stir up drama to increase publicity and therefore tips? Of course. And some guys love that. Is it a shitty thing to do? Of course. But it happens. It's similar to when politicians run against each other. Some of them are strictly professional, addressing what they will/won't do when they run for office. Others like to bring up their competitions' pasts/mistakes/etc and sometimes outright lie just to win votes. It happens because there are people out there who thrive on the drama.

I have to shamefully admit that it *does* entertain me to some level to watch the fallout of this stuff. Girls love soap operas, right?

 

[TacoBelle]

I think it's smart and nothing to complain about. It's competition, and it's capitalism. If it makes you uncomfortable or bothered as a model or a member, there are plenty of other sites that will likely fit your wants better. Is it fair? Fair enough. Everyone has the same rules. This might sound a bit harsh, but I think grown folks need to stop using the word "fair" about trivial things. This is for sure a trivial thing. Miss MFC is a game that very few people win. That's how most games work once you're over 18 though, isn't it? Understanding the wealth distribution of MFC is great for a camgirl, but insisting it should be different is silly. We're working adults with every opportunity to look elsewhere for employment not children that need to have their wants placated.

You just reminded me of this quote:
"When you play the game of thrones, you win or you die. There is no middle ground."

That is all.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Miss mfc is not miss universe, mfc is only a porn site with sort of shady reputation.

You are right there. MissMyFreeCams pays a heck of a lot more than Miss Universe!

According to this site, the 2014 Miss Universe got the following.

The Miss Universe 2014 prize package includes: a year-long salary as Miss Universe; luxury accommodations in a New York City apartment for the duration of her reign, including living expenses; a one-year scholarship from the New York Film Academy; a year’s supply of hair care products and tools from Farouk Systems, the makers of CHI Haircare; a new custom diamond tiara designed by DIC; a shoe wardrobe from Chinese Laundry Shoes; eveningwear by Sherri Hill; swimwear by Yamamay; denim by Carrera Jeans; skincare products from IMAGE Skincare; a year’s worth of sunless tanning products and services from Bold Sunless Tanning; two Business Class Round-Trip tickets to travel from USA to Asia provided by Delta; personal services including membership to Gravity Fitness and hair services from John Barrett Salon; modeling portfolio by leading fashion photographer Fadil Berisha; representation by Rubenstein Public Relations; dermatology and skincare services provided by Dr. Cheryl Thellman-Karcher; professional health and nutrition consultation by Tanya Zuckerbrot, MS, RD and dental services by Dr. Jan Linhart, D.D.S.; casting opportunities and professional representation by the Miss Universe Organization; extensive travel representing sponsors and charitable partners; access to various New York City events including movie premiers and screenings, Broadway shows and launch parties; year-long consultation with a fashion stylist; and access to a personal appearance wardrobe.

MFC top models for the year get paid more.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

You are right there. MissMyFreeCams pays a heck of a lot more than Miss Universe!

According to this site, the 2014 Miss Universe got the following.



MFC top models for the year get paid more.

Where did you see the #s for the salary? it jsut says ' a salary' for a year.

 

[Ambers Troll]

I have always thought of miss mfc in a similar way to fantasy football.... you have your favourite players, and even your favourite teams. Getting involved is a good way to spend your time. It is a reasonably fair competition, there will always be superstars of the game.

For example watching the final yesterday, I was hoping Kickaz could retain her #2 placement, as she was being chased by an opposing team, one another favourite doing most of the work for SwtSunny.
In another favourites' room the model I was with was chasing top 100, but didn't want one of her favourites knocked down by passing her.

There will always be some trash talk as it is a competition. Sometimes it goes too far, and the people doing it will be called out on it most times.

 

[LoonaVision]

I don't think it's fair because it has the self tipping option, but rules are rules, girl with the most amount of tokens wins and it doesn't matter who is the tipper.
I used to imagine that miss mfc is the best model on website for this or that month.
But nowadays it's more like Miss Token for me.
Thou, it's an excellent idea of website to gain endless income.

 

[Dolicky]

I don't think it's fair because it has the self tipping option, but rules are rules, girl with the most amount of tokens wins and it doesn't matter who is the tipper.

How many of these models actually "self tip"? Is it really worth losing 60% of what you spend in order to get yourself into the top 20? Sure the exposure is better but if you're up near those ranks anyway (say top 100) it can't make that much of a quantum difference can it?

 

[Camgirl]

It's not my cup of tea and I dont normally ever go to the "top" rooms but the competition aspect is a stroke of business genius from MFC and to be honest I'm surprised none of the other main camsites have copied it with their own similar version.

They do. You just don't hear about it as much. Naked.com has a daily contest for the top 5 earners. 1st gets 500 extra for the day, 250 for 2nd, and so on. There are no limits to how often you place and the prize is per day. Not too bad.

 

[bsurs]

In case there is some confusion on where (I think) LoonaVision is coming from, I believe she's finished in the Top 100 at least 38 times**. I think there are very few models who can claim that, so she probably knows more than most about what it takes to get to the Top 100.

Personally, as you go up the ranks, I think Miss MFC is more of a tipper competition than a model competition. If a model has a good number of regular tippers but not ones who can afford to give away the millions of tokens required to win, there's really not much she can do. I am just guessing but it seems like it usually only takes a few tippers, too (sometimes just one super tipper).

I am not insinuating that the top Miss MFC models don't deserve their ranks. Obviously, they do something to get those tippers -- they work the hours that expose them to a large set of tippers and they provide enough entertainment to give those tippers a reason to come back and keep on giving tokens. I just think there's a lot of luck involved in attracting the "right" tippers who can get them to the highest ranks.

(** This is just from MFC's public records, which only list Top 100 back to Sept. 2011.)

 

[LoonaVision]

I am on mfc since 2009, I was in top 20 and still somewhere in top 100 And I see how it changed and made people angrier, bitchy.
it wasn't like that back in 2009, 2010, 2011.
Probably, It's all absolutely normal, considering that there are more models, more members and way bigger money.
I don't want to give away facts coz I promised to keep them in secret, but things some models do to be in top 20 are just INSANE!!!! Maybe some girls know what I am talking about, but I think money its just money.
First of all you have to remain being human and keep ur self respect!!!

 

[Empress Mika]

The Miss MFC contest and its cam score systems are the main reasons why I left MFC, despite always ranking and performing well in the top 100 consistently.

I don't like the way the competitive nature made me feel. I felt like, in general, my success meant that another girl had to fail. I know that's a really general statement but that's what it felt like for me. If I was placed higher, that means someone else was placed lower... on both the home page via cam score and for the Miss MFC contest. As @AmberCutie mentioned, there was also a lot of judgement that went into Miss MFC and cam score in my experience. I would have both members and models alike come in and tell me blatantly that they don't understand why I am doing well and that I shouldn't be because I don't get naked and so on. As much as it seemed like a recipe for success, I felt the "price" of that via the drama and stress for everyone participating was too much for me.

Anyway! I much more like the idea of models empowering each other as oppose to being in direct competition with one another, which I felt was too much the case on MFC. It also wasn't very fun to always pressure my members for tips instead of creating a relaxing place where we could all just hang out and be ourselves. I am much happier caming on a site where the contest isn't as fiercely competitive and everyone gets a shot to win something if they put in the time as well as creating clips alongside some really amazing women. These environments are much more suited to me.

It's great that it works for some models and members but it certainly wasn't my cup of tea. To each their own

 

[MojitosJourney]

I'm really surprised this thread has got so much negative feedback. I think the MissMyFreeCams contest is an example of how destructive capitalism can be. YES, Myfreecams benefits from this greatly and it was the world's smartest marketing move. However: stuff like this is why I left the world of working in marketing... and it's still following me now haha. Just because something brings in money does NOT mean it's good. Money does not equal happiness. Greed and competition can force us to some really dark, crazy places.

In the end, you have to decide if you're happy. If the personal sacrifices you made to make rank were worth it.
I guess what the naysayers in this thread were saying are yes, they are happy with it, and yes it's worth it to them.

I get wrapped up in the cam score and rank system too. But from an outside perspective, I think it's kind of hilarious that we are all competing fiercely at being the best at entertaining horny men.

 

[Ambers Troll]

But from an outside perspective, I think it's kind of hilarious that we are all competing fiercely at being the best at entertaining horny men.

Shows how challenging entertaining, rather than just satisfying horny men is. I was reading a blog from one of these amazingly entertaining models a few days ago...it was simply inspiring. Most top models don't compete at all, they just succeed. Those I have met are lovely women, I suspect miss mfc get's it right more often than wrong about the top model for the month.
Don't get me wrong I disagree most months, imagining far more worthy winners over those I have never met or have not much interest in.

 

[AwesomeKate]

I'm thankful that the Miss MFC competition exists because I don't know if I would ever put any effort in otherwise. I enjoy camming, but I'd honestly probably log on just enough to pay my bills and that's it. When that number is staring me in the face though, it pretty much forces me to get online or I feel like shit about myself.

 

[mynameisbob84]

Bullet points!

• It's great for MFC and a borderline genius move on their part. Without it, they probably wouldn't rake in half as much as they do
• It's a competition. Competition can bring out the best in people, and it can bring out the worst in people. Models and members are first and foremost, people. You do the math, yo
• It is fair. Every model starts out with the same camscore and (within reason) has the same chance to reach the top of the pile. I think a lot of the heartache in camland comes from the way that MFC works on a fundamental level. If Model A works her ass off, researches her craft, has good lighting and presentation, is entertaining, sexy and personable, and makes more money than Model B (who can boast none of those attributes), then I think most reasonable people would conclude that that's fair and just. The problem comes in to play when Model A and Model B are equally hard-working, have equally desirable qualities, but are separated in rank (and thus income) purely by luck. A big tipper found Model A early on and the inertia created by that tipper's tips ensured that that model would be rewarded by her hard work. Model B didn't have that luck. There are lots of Model A's and lots of Model B's in camland, and I think the Miss MFC competition only strengthens the divide between them, leading many to conclude that it's "not fair". I would argue that it is. Luck plays a factor in any competition and competitions are only unfair in so much as that life is unfair. There's not much that MFC can do about that though
• That said, as much as Miss MFC benefits the top models, it can absolutely negatively affect the models outside of the Top 100. If you were a cynic, you might argue that it's something tantamount to "keeping the rich rich, and the poor poor"
• I don't think I'll ever understand members' fascination with the drama surrounding Miss MFC. Outside of wanting to see their favourites and online friends do well and be happy, I still don't understand why it becomes so important that "their" model makes more money than that model over there, or that one over here. Supporting one model shouldn't mean attempting to discredit another. If a model you like is even in contention for Miss MFC then just be happy that they've had an amazing month and made an obscene amount of money, and try not to get so hung up on the fact that another model - whose only crime is not being your favourite - made a few grand more, ya know?

 

[Mikey_P]

It is a genius marketing move for both MFC and models who are very successful. I don't typically visit the top model rooms and I don't care about the Miss MFC Contest. I can't see myself tipping just so that a model can move up a few spots or win a contest. I only tip 3 models and it has more to deal with personality than nudity, sex shows or countdowns. I'm not really who MFC wants as a customer! I also leave rooms where the model is bitching about her ranking or demanding tips just to get to spot X. MFC is your job, not mine! I have enough competition in my business life.

 

[AutumnDayKink]

I have to agree with everyone who says that it's a brilliant profitability move on MFC's part - this cause tokens to just ROLL on in. I just don't like anything that makes people meaner to one another. So I don't personally LIKE Miss MFC because of that extra level of trash-talking that it seems to generate.

 

[Bocefish]

Purely a profit generator... if the models are competitively working harder, regardless of whether it's self-promotion, their fans are probably tipping more too.

Meanwhile, Leo is laughing all the way to the bank.

 

[LoonaVision]

Purely a profit generator... if the models are competitively working harder, regardless of whether it's self-promotion, their fans are probably tipping more too.

Meanwhile, Leo is laughing all the way to the bank.

Lol well said, especially the part about Leo.

 

[Molison]

I doubt my view will be popular but IMO Miss MFC should be just Miss MFC and not Miss MFC and how many of my camgirl friends I can get to cam with me during a month to boost my takings.
I know it would be impossible to police but it should be a contest between solo camgirls.

 

[mickerd]

I doubt my view will be popular but IMO Miss MFC should be just Miss MFC and not Miss MFC and how many of my camgirl friends I can get to cam with me during a month to boost my takings.
I know it would be impossible to police but it should be a contest between solo camgirls.

It's a contest pertaining to who can earn the most tokens, the site rules allow that you can have as many females as you want on cam as long as they are all verified. Everyone has the same opportunity in that regard. Imo it seems perfectly "fair".

 

[mynameisbob84]

I doubt my view will be popular but IMO Miss MFC should be just Miss MFC and not Miss MFC and how many of my camgirl friends I can get to cam with me during a month to boost my takings.
I know it would be impossible to police but it should be a contest between solo camgirls.

I don't see who this benefits though. It deprives members of the chance to see two of their favourite cam girls interact, it deprives models of the chance to make more money, it deprives MFC of the chance to make more money. It doesn't purely benefit top models either. Lower rank models are just as likely to do joint shows as top models (and reap the financial benefits as they do it). Not only that, but if a lower rank model does a show with a higher rank model, the lower rank model benefits from the exposure. It also promotes camaraderie between cam girls and strengthens the camming community and creates opportunities for more social interactions within said community (for both models and members). I see a lot of positives, but really no negatives, yo.