Miss mfc yearly competition

[KittyPurrz]

I'm still stuck on the part where you implied that being a camgirl for 5 hours a day is harder than other people's jobs. :/

Have you, like, HAD other jobs? Because I'd switch places with you in a second if I had the ass for it, and it took me 8 years of college to earn the right to do my incredibly difficult and demanding job and I still don't make close to what I'm sure you make. But I guess I don't work hard enough.

I don't think Kick meant that her job is harder compared to yours. If I remember right, all she said is that it's "different."
It can be incredibly draining to entertain 100+ people for 5 hours straight. I was a Dental Assistant for 5 years and worked 9 hour days and some nights after signing off MFC I feel more mentally and physically drained after 3 hours than I did at my 9-5 job.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I'm still stuck on the part where you implied that being a camgirl for 5 hours a day is harder than other people's jobs. :/

Have you, like, HAD other jobs? Because I'd switch places with you in a second if I had the ass for it, and it took me 8 years of college to earn the right to do my incredibly difficult and demanding job and I still don't make close to what I'm sure you make. But I guess I don't work hard enough.

I don't think Kick meant that her job is harder compared to yours. If I remember right, all she said is that it's "different."
It can be incredibly draining to entertain 100+ people for 5 hours straight. I was a Dental Assistant for 5 years and worked 9 hour days and some nights after signing off MFC I feel more mentally and physically drained after 3 hours than I did at my 9-5 job.

A 5 hour shift in any other job is a short shift, tiring but easy to get through. A 5 hour shift on cam for me leaves me absolutely exhausted, mentally drained etc. I don't do them for a reason! Some jobs are more tiring than others, both physically and mentally. Camming though it seems like a bit of a doss is one of those jobs. Though it has a lot of positive aspects to it, it definitely is the hardest job I've ever had in terms of general exhaustion. I also cannot cam well if I'm remotely tired which can make mixing it with real life frustrating. If I had the option to get a full time job that would pay me a decent wage then I would take it.

If one wants a 'fair' Ms. MFC Yearly competition then something like this strikes me as the best path.

Each Registered Premium gets to cast one vote for the model that they feel deserves the title. A simple page where the user types in the model (and the site checks against valid names just like the PM function does) he chooses to support, and a 'enter vote' button is all needed.

I'm sorry but I don't see anything "fair" about your proposal. It would it totally be abused, not only by high spending members bullying lower ranking models into doing stuff for them so they get their "vote" but you'd also get a tirade of members trying to use their vote as ways to make models do stuff for free. It would bring members even more away from the tipping aspect and more into the "this is just a fun free site where models aren't actually trying to earn" frame of mind.

It also wouldn't reward models who work really hard or encourage members to spend that bit more on certain months. And because of the camscore system you would still get large amounts of members tipping certain models. At least now a model with lower room numbers but good regulars can work her arse off for 30 days and make the top 100. In this situation she'd never stand a chance.

 

[BrokenFace]

To be fair to all models the proposal needs a small change to make it a level playing field.

The vast majority of models would not be prepared to debase themselves or their public buildings by perform creepy sex shows in a public educational facility. Therefore, it would seem reasonable that models who show no respect for anyone or anything by performing sleazy 'library shows' should be excluded from the competition.

However, such models would be eligible for the fun end of year awards.
These would include:

Most smug self-satisfied camgirl.
Model with most advanced superiority complex.

 

[AllisonWilder]

To be fair to all models the proposal needs a small change to make it a level playing field.

The vast majority of models would not be prepared to debase themselves or their public buildings by perform creepy sex shows in a public educational facility. Therefore, it would seem reasonable that models who show no respect for anyone or anything by performing sleazy 'library shows' should be excluded from the competition.

However, such models would be eligible for the fun end of year awards.
These would include:

Most smug self-satisfied camgirl.
Model with most advanced superiority complex.

Seems like someone woke up on the 'I'm going to act like a dick today' side of the bed.

 

[mynameisbob84]

To be fair to all models the proposal needs a small change to make it a level playing field.

The vast majority of models would not be prepared to debase themselves or their public buildings by perform creepy sex shows in a public educational facility. Therefore, it would seem reasonable that models who show no respect for anyone or anything by performing sleazy 'library shows' should be excluded from the competition.

However, such models would be eligible for the fun end of year awards.
These would include:

Most smug self-satisfied camgirl.
Model with most advanced superiority complex.

Because there's no difference between a model who flops her fun bags out in a crowded library in full view of everyone or retreats to the children's fiction section and fingers her dripping wet snatch, leaving voluminous cum streaks on a copy of Watership Down, and the models who take every precaution to make sure they're not seen as they do a little tease and flash a cheeky nipple to the camera :thumbleft:

 

[JoleneBrody]

To be fair to all models the proposal needs a small change to make it a level playing field.

The vast majority of models would not be prepared to debase themselves or their public buildings by perform creepy sex shows in a public educational facility. Therefore, it would seem reasonable that models who show no respect for anyone or anything by performing sleazy 'library shows' should be excluded from the competition.

However, such models would be eligible for the fun end of year awards.
These would include:

Most smug self-satisfied camgirl.
Model with most advanced superiority complex.

Because there's no difference between a model who flops her fun bags out in a crowded library in full view of everyone or retreats to the children's fiction section and fingers her dripping wet snatch, leaving voluminous cum streaks on a copy of Watership Down, and the models who take every precaution to make sure they're not seen as they do a little tease and flash a cheeky nipple to the camera :thumbleft:

Yeah Kick doesn't even perform non-creepy sex shows ever, let alone the creepy kind. (WTF ever that means. I picture wild air licking and speaking in tongues)

If you are going to have so much venomous hatred for someone at least be knowledgeable as to why.

 

[Myriads]

I'm sorry but I don't see anything "fair" about your proposal. It would it totally be abused, not only by high spending members bullying lower ranking models into doing stuff for them so they get their "vote" but you'd also get a tirade of members trying to use their vote as ways to make models do stuff for free. It would bring members even more away from the tipping aspect and more into the "this is just a fun free site where models aren't actually trying to earn" frame of mind.

It also wouldn't reward models who work really hard or encourage members to spend that bit more on certain months. And because of the camscore system you would still get large amounts of members tipping certain models. At least now a model with lower room numbers but good regulars can work her arse off for 30 days and make the top 100. In this situation she'd never stand a chance.

Hello Isabella,

I'm glad that you responded and opened discussion.

First up, I want to make it clear that my idea was not one to replace the monthly Miss MFC contest, but as one to stand alone as a Full year Miss MFC. I think that the monthly Miss MFC contest works very well as a motivator, and agree that a model who has lower room numbers can indeed work very hard and make a good showing in such contests. I've seen many models become motivated and over several months learn new skills and slowly have better and better showings. So I'm cool with the monthly contest. It's not perfect but it IS a good motivator, and has opportunities for the dedicated.

The big problem that I see with a yearly competition is how you decide it. If it is based. like the monthly, on total tokens, then it's going to be a contest that is realistically only open to the elite Thirty (10?) monthly players or so to win. The big monthly winners will be the ones who all slug it out for Yearly winner, and it will be pretty clear to most lower score, and room member number girls that they have no hope at it, and thus it won't be a very good motivator. Also, though I'm not convinced that the monthly competition sucks all the tokens out of the system with a bias to the top end, I am concerned enough to believe that adding another token stacking contest could start to have negative effects on a site wide basis with truly unknown effects on the community.

I'm very interested in hearing more ideas on why a pure token stacking metric would be of benefit for a Yearly contest. I'm not a model, so I can't hope to fully understand the mindset and views that a model would have on this sort of contest. Why they might want to work for it and so forth.

I will concede that if the base idea behind a yearly contest is to give the elite a new goal to strive for, then token stacking will work for that end. It would be very much "You are the best of the crop, here is a new ring to reach for" motivator. So if that is the desired path then yes it would work.

But I felt that perhaps a yearly contest might be a tool for motivating a much larger percent of the model base then just the elite levels of MFC. I think there is more to the concept of 'Best model' then just ability to pull in tokens. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to take those into consideration somehow also?

Making the competition based on something other then tokens seems to be the best path to do that to me. I like the idea of a weighted voting currency that is members hands because it removes the ability of a handful of Whales to decide the result. It also evens the playing field of camscore advantage a bit, as a model would have a full year to make an impression on a voting member, and thus have lots of time to be 'discovered' as their ranking might not put them in the highly important top quarter of the default home page.

I don't see how members would be able to bully any model. First up a model would need to WANT to be competing for the voting points for it to even matter. And they also get to decide exactly what they might be willing to offer in exchange for said points. Because the points are weighted, even a whales vote is not so off scale as to be worth that incredibly more then an average premiums, so a whale wouldn't have some huge club to swing to 'get stuff'. Because points are 'slippery', and could be easily reassigned by a user, their very nature as a currency makes them difficult to 'sell' for goods or services.

But I think that is enough for now. As we have not even come to a common basis on exactly what purpose, and for who a Yearly contest would be designed towards.

Looking forward to fun discussion if it pleases anyone.
Myriads

 

[SexySteph]

I'm sorry but I don't see anything "fair" about your proposal. It would it totally be abused, not only by high spending members bullying lower ranking models into doing stuff for them so they get their "vote" but you'd also get a tirade of members trying to use their vote as ways to make models do stuff for free. It would bring members even more away from the tipping aspect and more into the "this is just a fun free site where models aren't actually trying to earn" frame of mind.

It also wouldn't reward models who work really hard or encourage members to spend that bit more on certain months. And because of the camscore system you would still get large amounts of members tipping certain models. At least now a model with lower room numbers but good regulars can work her arse off for 30 days and make the top 100. In this situation she'd never stand a chance.

I don't see how members would be able to bully any model. First up a model would need to WANT to be competing for the voting points for it to even matter. And they also get to decide exactly what they might be willing to offer in exchange for said points. Because the points are weighted, even a whales vote is not so off scale as to be worth that incredibly more then an average premiums, so a whale wouldn't have some huge club to swing to 'get stuff'. Because points are 'slippery', and could be easily reassigned by a user, their very nature as a currency makes them difficult to 'sell' for goods or services.

Guys already bully models "Show me your boobs or I'm going to report you" "What? We're in group and you're not masturbating? Start now or I'm going to report you!" and that stuff works on inexperienced girls.

Do you really think "Well, if you fuck yourself with that baseball bat I'll give you my vote" wouldn't work? Even knowing that the votes can be taken away, if girls are naive enough to believe that "Oh my god, you just bought out my entire wishlist?! Of course I'll do a skype with you!" then they'll believe the vote manipulation too.

 

[Myriads]

Guys already bully models "Show me your boobs or I'm going to report you" "What? We're in group and you're not masturbating? Start now or I'm going to report you!" and that stuff works on inexperienced girls.

Do you really think "Well, if you fuck yourself with that baseball bat I'll give you my vote" wouldn't work? Even knowing that the votes can be taken away, if girls are naive enough to believe that "Oh my god, you just bought out my entire wishlist?! Of course I'll do a skype with you!" then they'll believe the vote manipulation too.

Thanks for input Steph,

Yes I know there are no shortage of asshats that pull the sort of stuff you describe. But are they the rule or exception? How much of the user base do they really make up (and I'm not minimizing the scum-baggery of these individuals one little bit, by saying that because they may be few, they are not a problem, they ARE regardless of number)

I'm more troubled by the idea that naivety on the part of models might be a larger impacting influence on this and other issues. I've seen new girls that due to lack of knowledge, are often almost taken advantage of before others in their rooms call BS, but I've seen very few models who have reached the point where they are able to start to think about rank as a real issue that have kept that level of naivety.

Are we looking at a matter where new girls need a bit more intake education? Or a deeper one that is a real problem for the community?

This is being wonderfully digressive.
Myriads

 

[SexySteph]

Guys already bully models "Show me your boobs or I'm going to report you" "What? We're in group and you're not masturbating? Start now or I'm going to report you!" and that stuff works on inexperienced girls.

Do you really think "Well, if you fuck yourself with that baseball bat I'll give you my vote" wouldn't work? Even knowing that the votes can be taken away, if girls are naive enough to believe that "Oh my god, you just bought out my entire wishlist?! Of course I'll do a skype with you!" then they'll believe the vote manipulation too.

Thanks for input Steph,

Yes I know there are no shortage of asshats that pull the sort of stuff you describe. But are they the rule or exception? How much of the user base do they really make up (and I'm not minimizing the scum-baggery of these individuals one little bit, by saying that because they may be few, they are not a problem, they ARE regardless of number)

I definitely don't think they're the exception. I'm not about to say that there are more of those than there are of good respectful members but it's a fairly even balance. You'll notice it more in lower camscore rooms and rooms that belong to girls with the "new model" tag.

I'm more troubled by the idea that naivety on the part of models might be a larger impacting influence on this and other issues. I've seen new girls that due to lack of knowledge, are often almost taken advantage of before others in their rooms call BS, but I've seen very few models who have reached the point where they are able to start to think about rank as a real issue that have kept that level of naivety.

I know girls who have strived for Top 100 and somehow managed to land themselves in Top200 frequently yet have no idea how camscore works or other things. Knowledge of one thing does not equal knowledge of all things.

But, if you don't feel this could be abused then there is likely no song and dance I could do to convince you other wise. But I will say that a voting system is identical to many ideas from guys that want to open "camgirl rating sites" that we have chased out of here. Winning something based on tokens earned is FAR more fair than votes from members.

 

[Myriads]

I definitely don't think they're the exception. I'm not about to say that there are more of those than there are of good respectful members but it's a fairly even balance. You'll notice it more in lower camscore rooms and rooms that belong to girls with the "new model" tag.

I know girls who have strived for Top 100 and somehow managed to land themselves in Top200 frequently yet have no idea how camscore works or other things. Knowledge of one thing does not equal knowledge of all things.

But, if you don't feel this could be abused then there is likely no song and dance I could do to convince you other wise. But I will say that a voting system is identical to many ideas from guys that want to open "camgirl rating sites" that we have chased out of here. Winning something based on tokens earned is FAR more fair than votes from members.

Steph,

I've seen how the new model tag is like a bull's eye on a starting girl for the idiot patrol to come knocking. So I see what you mean. I've just not see too many of such folks in rooms where models have established themselves a bit (say approaching a 1800 CS) It seems they get weeded out pretty fast, but I guess they are all off bothering a new fresh target like the pack of predators they are.

I'm very open to being convinced that a system like my suggestion could be abused. I can't see all the working parts from my side, and certainly can't fully understand the pressures and forces systems place onto a model.

I personally think that Open rating sites are horrible, I manage a fairly large online forum (130,000 registered members) and I'd never allow a rating system to be active because cliques use them as clubs to vote people into silence and oblivion. And I thing that for a cam girl site it would be a massive abuse club just waiting to be picked up, to settle scores, remove competition, and so forth. So I'd never be behind that.

I'm very open to seeing how folks feel a weighted mobile vote system could (and would) be abused. And ways to make it better, and less open to abuse.

I agree that tokens are a metric that are a solid measuring stick. I'm just wondering if they measure all the things we'd want to see in a 'Miss MFC of the year' and what we could use instead.

I know that when you get down to the base of it, MFC and camming is about making cash. And because of that money is always going to be a major metric that is looked at in any sort of measurement on site. I guess we are back to what exactly should a Yearly competition be? What purpose should it serve, and who would it be designed for?

Myriads

 

[AmberCutie]

I guess we are back to what exactly should a Yearly competition be? What purpose should it serve, and who would it be designed for?

I don't think many people think we need a yearly competition at all. So, there's that.

 

[yossarian]

To be fair to all models the proposal needs a small change to make it a level playing field.

The vast majority of models would not be prepared to debase themselves or their public buildings by perform creepy sex shows in a public educational facility. Therefore, it would seem reasonable that models who show no respect for anyone or anything by performing sleazy 'library shows' should be excluded from the competition.

However, such models would be eligible for the fun end of year awards.
These would include:

Most smug self-satisfied camgirl.
Model with most advanced superiority complex.

Because there's no difference between a model who flops her fun bags out in a crowded library in full view of everyone or retreats to the children's fiction section and fingers her dripping wet snatch, leaving voluminous cum streaks on a copy of Watership Down, and the models who take every precaution to make sure they're not seen as they do a little tease and flash a cheeky nipple to the camera :thumbleft:

Yeah Kick doesn't even perform non-creepy sex shows ever, let alone the creepy kind. (WTF ever that means. I picture wild air licking and speaking in tongues)

If you are going to have so much venomous hatred for someone at least be knowledgeable as to why.

Now I'm trying to picture what a creepy library sex show would entail. Humping the kiosk? Making out with a dictionary? Rubbing your butt on all the books?

 

[Trollgent]

I am so glad to see my first post isn't the text wall about how mfc lacks rules enforcement like I thought it would be. I find it incredulous that ANY model let alone person would use the oxymoron "simple economics". There is a huge class warfare rift on mfc because of the growing "5%" of mfc and to brag working hard 5-10 hours a day when on twitter you are interviewing a "new assistant" makes me laugh. Now you can knock me down for my "ignorance" of not knowing the models side, but then I will just dutifully nod and claim that getting unbiased opinions on the member side also leaves one partially ignorant. A new model does not have the model friends or support, yes they can go here and like Tiny Tim be thrown the standard "wiki links" as a form of nourishable gruel or maybe even given advice JUST generic enough to work "have fun with it" "find your own style". Sorry loves but when you are on the top just like in the animal kingdom, real world economy, and physical fitness. it is easier to stay on the top and those who argue can take up Newton's first law of motion. Claiming economics stats isn't my thing like some models. I encourage people to go out there and look for themselves the average cam scores going from 2009 to today and form their own opinion.

 

[Alexandra Cole]

That's some weird syntax, troll.

 

[ScarletRaven]

December 31 would be like the freakin' Hunger Games.

Yes it would be awful.

I think the last thing MFC needs is another scheme to encourage folks to tip the top models more and at expense of the 30,000+ models not in the top 100. Geez doesn'tt camscore, the most popular room, monthly Miss MFC, models you may like, do enough to drive traffic to the models.


On the other hand if they want to use rate and admire for something, why not have a competition yearly competition to see who can be the most admired camgirl. That would be cool

I like that idea a lot, sort of like a crowd favorite or something!! MFC Superlatives

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I've just not see too many of such folks in rooms where models have established themselves a bit (say approaching a 1800 CS) It seems they get weeded out pretty fast, but I guess they are all off bothering a new fresh target like the pack of predators they are.

Just because you don't see something doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Most cam sessions I do I'll get one or two guys trying to pull some sort of scam type thing in MFC mail. Sometimes in the room. Hell, I have a feeling most dudes who go "Skype bb?" have zero intention of paying and just want to use paypal then get a refund. It does happen a lot and is pretty consistent. Often members will add a model on Skype and harass her there, I've never had this as I never accept random adds on Skype. Most of the shitty stuff that members do on myfreecams is not out in the open.

I wouldn't say most members or even half the members would try and blackmail a model into giving them free content. I think quite a lot of members might if the opportunity presented themselves and they thought they might get away with it, maybe not blackmail but more manipulation. Lots of members will try and charm their way into getting free content (however that works). It's not that different to dudes trying to get free drinks/cheaper drinks off a hot barmaid. They might as well try chatting up an ATM for all the good it'll do, but many will still try their luck.

Is it a concern that lots of models are naive? Well yes. Is it surprising? Erm... No. A lot of models are barely over 18. In the US they're not even trusted to drink alcohol, many still live with their parents and have very little life experience, is it really that surprising that they're not going to understand or expect the millions of scams that members come up with? Don't forget that for a lot of teenagers adults are still authority, if you've lived with that then when you turn 18 you won't necessarily have shaken that. Having a load of adult men telling you that you should be doing xyz can be very intimidating. We also may happen to have a whole load of very bright models here on ACF who have made informed career decisions, or at least have learned the ropes of camming and survived in one piece. This isn't the case with a lot of models. The job doesn't require IQ levels or common sense. To do well it usually takes some social intelligence but it's not a necessity. I like to steer away from the whole stereotype of all women in porn being dumb idiots who can't be hired for normal jobs. That stereotype just isn't true. But it doesn't mean there aren't women in camming like that.

 

[JoleneBrody]

There is no money in a non token based yearly Miss MFC contest for MFC directly, so you might as well just toss that idea out the window now.

Personally, I don't see a yearly contest as interesting in the slightest, and think it just adds and piles too much onto the existing leaning tower of motivation we already have going. We have enough competitive incentive to work harder now, do we really need anymore?
A yearly contest is just going to convince the top girls to make pushes every month, instead of maybe freeing up a bit of room every once in a while for a newbie to have a go. The feeling of possibility is a big driving factor for success and aside from just feeling pointless, I think it would also take away a lot of the feeling of possibility for a non-top20 regular to feel like they even have a shot at the monthly.

It's just overkill, IMO.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

A yearly competition?

Oh lord...yet more tweets begging for offline love to make the top 100!

Me? I'm happy at #4704 :-D

Good for you that you are happy. You confuse motivation with begging. I have yet to see many models that beg for tokens and get into the top 100.

Also preaching about begging when you openly are asking for money on your profile is not cool. I can totally sympathize and can relate with your health problems (dealt with it in my family) and would gladly help ppl in need but your assumption has very little base.

Yep. People need to be more careful with the word 'beg' in general. It sucks seeing a fellow camgirl use it, talking about other camgirls.
A tweet like '#97 on Miss MFC right now, let's try to stay in the top 100! All offline tips help, we can do this! ' is not begging. Especially when a model is working her butt off online, too.

Some models don't consider anything begging tho. Like, 99.9% of people could consider something begging but to some camgirls it isn't.

To be fair to all models the proposal needs a small change to make it a level playing field.

The vast majority of models would not be prepared to debase themselves or their public buildings by perform creepy sex shows in a public educational facility. Therefore, it would seem reasonable that models who show no respect for anyone or anything by performing sleazy 'library shows' should be excluded from the competition.

However, such models would be eligible for the fun end of year awards.
These would include:

Most smug self-satisfied camgirl.
Model with most advanced superiority complex.

To be fair to Kickaz, her library shows aren't really sex shows. Are they extremely classless? Certainly. Are they disrespectful? Yes of course. Sleazy? You betcha but when compared to what some of the other models are doing they are quite tame. Not defending library shows, just saying hers aren't as bad as some.

Wouldn't care about a miss mfc yearly competition. Wouldn't prove anything besides who earned the most. A model with a wealthy tipper could barely spend anytime online and win. Sweet competition. A model could work hard all year and get beaten by a model that was lucky enough to have a big tipper take a liking to her. Some dude with a lot of extra money could basically decide who he wants to win. Thats whats so fucked up about camgirl "competitions", it really doesn't matter who worked the hardest or who has the most fans, it all comes down to who has the biggest spendors backing them.

 

[NataliaGrey]

I'd love to see the opposite of this. Instead of a yearly competition, maybe a daily one. Chaturbate does an hourly one.

Flirt4Free did (does?) daily ones back when I worked for them and it made me want to win it every day! I think it was $50 extra a day if you won, which is pretty awesome. If F4F can afford it, MFC can. Unfortunately it will never happen, because when the highest 21-100 earners get an extra $100/month, $50/day is ridiculous.

 

[SexySteph]

I'd love to see the opposite of this. Instead of a yearly competition, maybe a daily one. Chaturbate does an hourly one.

Flirt4Free did (does?) daily ones back when I worked for them and it made me want to win it every day! I think it was $50 extra a day if you won, which is pretty awesome. If F4F can afford it, MFC can. Unfortunately it will never happen, because when the highest 21-100 earners get an extra $100/month, $50/day is ridiculous.

That would be so neat actually. Because that's something low earning girls actually would stand a chance in. Everyone has mind blowing days once in awhile, imagine being a 1k girl and having your birthday come up and you place in the Top 100 that day!

 

[JoleneBrody]

I'd love to see the opposite of this. Instead of a yearly competition, maybe a daily one. Chaturbate does an hourly one.

Flirt4Free did (does?) daily ones back when I worked for them and it made me want to win it every day! I think it was $50 extra a day if you won, which is pretty awesome. If F4F can afford it, MFC can. Unfortunately it will never happen, because when the highest 21-100 earners get an extra $100/month, $50/day is ridiculous.

That would be so neat actually. Because that's something low earning girls actually would stand a chance in. Everyone has mind blowing days once in awhile, imagine being a 1k girl and having your birthday come up and you place in the Top 100 that day!

Agreed! I think a daily contest would be pretty rad and TOTALLY motivating to the models who know top 20, or even 100 just isn't super feasible.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

I guess we are back to what exactly should a Yearly competition be? What purpose should it serve, and who would it be designed for?

I don't think many people think we need a yearly competition at all. So, there's that.

Yup that is how I feel.
Myriads, I don't think your proposal is bad, although I am not sure it is much different than rate and admire, other than excluding basics. I just feel strongly that so much attention is directed to top models that other 99% needs some love (and tips).

 

[TicTacToe]

There is a lot of negative feedback on this idea. Some girls on MFC find the pressure of the Miss MFC contest stressful. But the yearly Miss MFC would benefit girls all across the board, not only at the very top.

There are models who work hard one month and land top 100, and then pull a Houdini for the next 3 months. They come back and pull another top 100 month. So on and so on. They are perceived as "a top 100 girl" by the community. But by the end of the year she wouldn't place anywhere near the top 100 on the yearly contest.

Other models work hard every month. They don't rank top 100, but they are there every day of the year. By december, they would be surprised to see themselves in the yearly top 100 board. If the board is up the entire year these hard-working girls who "never make it" would get more exposure.

Yearly top 100 would reward constant hard workers, not just the ones who work on sporadic bursts of energy.

 

[Fay_Galore]

There are models who work hard one month and land top 100, and then pull a Houdini for the next 3 months, they are nowhere to be found. Then they come back to MFC and pull another top 100 month. So on and so on. In the end they are perceived as "a top 100 girl" by the community. But by the end of the year if there was a yearly contest she wouldn't place anywhere near the top 100.

Do you think a girl who disappears for three month as a top-100-worthy following left after that?

 

[TicTacToe]

There are models who work hard one month and land top 100, and then pull a Houdini for the next 3 months, they are nowhere to be found. Then they come back to MFC and pull another top 100 month. So on and so on. In the end they are perceived as "a top 100 girl" by the community. But by the end of the year if there was a yearly contest she wouldn't place anywhere near the top 100.

Do you think a girl who disappears for three month as a top-100-worthy following left after that?

Look at Panzii, Olivia4Naked, Posie, and countless others.

 

[JoleneBrody]

There are models who work hard one month and land top 100, and then pull a Houdini for the next 3 months, they are nowhere to be found. Then they come back to MFC and pull another top 100 month. So on and so on. In the end they are perceived as "a top 100 girl" by the community. But by the end of the year if there was a yearly contest she wouldn't place anywhere near the top 100.

Do you think a girl who disappears for three month as a top-100-worthy following left after that?

Look at Panzii, Olivia4Naked, Posie, and countless others.

... consistently successful models who have kicked butt for years?

If a model is unable to finish a month in the top 100 once in an entire year their is absolutely zero chance they will get top 100 in the yearly. Like not even the tiniest little itty bit of chance, sorry.

 

[TicTacToe]

There are models who work hard one month and land top 100, and then pull a Houdini for the next 3 months, they are nowhere to be found. Then they come back to MFC and pull another top 100 month. So on and so on. In the end they are perceived as "a top 100 girl" by the community. But by the end of the year if there was a yearly contest she wouldn't place anywhere near the top 100.

Do you think a girl who disappears for three month as a top-100-worthy following left after that?

Look at Panzii, Olivia4Naked, Posie, and countless others.

... consistently successful models who have kicked butt for years?

If a model is unable to finish a month in the top 100 once in an entire year their is absolutely zero chance they will get top 100 in the yearly. Like not even the tiniest little itty bit of chance, sorry.

This is a bold statement. Nobody knows because there is no data. We are all speculating here. This is what I know: to land top 200 you need 8k. For top 150 you need 10k. To land top 100 you need 12k. The difference is slim. A model who works consistently all year could very well land yearly top 100 even when she doesn't rank in the 100s monthly.

 

[JoleneBrody]

There are models who work hard one month and land top 100, and then pull a Houdini for the next 3 months, they are nowhere to be found. Then they come back to MFC and pull another top 100 month. So on and so on. In the end they are perceived as "a top 100 girl" by the community. But by the end of the year if there was a yearly contest she wouldn't place anywhere near the top 100.

Do you think a girl who disappears for three month as a top-100-worthy following left after that?

Look at Panzii, Olivia4Naked, Posie, and countless others.

... consistently successful models who have kicked butt for years?

If a model is unable to finish a month in the top 100 once in an entire year their is absolutely zero chance they will get top 100 in the yearly. Like not even the tiniest little itty bit of chance, sorry.

This is a bold statement. Nobody knows because there is no data. We are all speculating here. This is what I know: to land top 200 you need 8k. For top 150 you need 10k. To land top 100 you need 12k. The difference is slim. A model who works consistently all year could very well land yearly top 100 even when she doesn't rank in the 100s monthly.

I've been a consistently active and relatively successful model for 4 years... no data needed, I'm speaking from years of experience. I was here when the top 100 was first announced and I've watched it every month since, trust me... it's not possible and it is far from speculation.
It just is what it is.

 

[TicTacToe]

I've been a consistently active and relatively successful model for 4 years... no data needed, I'm speaking from years of experience. I was here when the top 100 was first announced and I've watched it every month since, trust me... it's not possible and it is far from speculation.
It just is what it is.

ok :thumbleft: