I don't broadcast on mfc, so excuse the question. All of this happened for a price of 1,000 $ (which is cool) and a virtual crown? Jesus, whoever at mfc came up with that competition idea hopefully got an "employee of the month" trophy.
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Obviously it's not for the cash prize, it's for the notoriety and sense of competition you can use to drive more tokens for any given month.
Well don't forget there is jewelry involved. We all know how crazy girls go over diamonds. (or so DeBeers tell us.)
But MFC only sends the jewelry to US based models, so Mary isn't getting hers.Well don't forget there is jewelry involved. We all know how crazy girls go over diamonds. (or so DeBeers tell us.)
I liked your post and in many ways it is fair comment. In many ways it would take a stellar effort and many fans to counter such massive tips.
I am not sure that the average more experienced member really falls for the hype. Some of us may take our little moment of moderate spending glory with some of these extraordinary women, knowing full well our contribution is minimal. I don't think it devalues it, and can sometimes enhance it. So your argument, as much as it sounds good that it is bad for business, I disagree with: overspending on top models is usually a lot of fun.... they really are worth it most times.
Poor Kicka fans, I do feel bad for them, there really is no one to replace her until her return. I don't think they will roll to Mary's room, they need someone with more heart and humour. Someone like @Aella would fit better, far more playful and interesting.
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Well Polly is representing the UK in the no.1 spot so far, and she most definitely has heart and humour 
Well the sour grapes from that guy is interesting as it turn's out he's a follower of Kickaz and her regs are very upset as they planned #1 for her and feel they have been cheated by MFC. I know she herself don't care.
After reading kickaz twitter guess she is bitter too.
I don't understand how one tip of 1.2 million tokens would be more beneficial than three tips of 400,000 tokens (or whatever the usual limit is). Nor do I understand members' saltiness when "their" model "only" comes in second. Just be happy that your favourite model made a boatload of money, ya know? And if the model herself isn't happy about the situation, maybe think about visiting another model altogether. Entitlement never struck me as sexy, but to each their own, I guess.
I think she may have been the one to lead the brigade on MFC's twitter asking for an answer about it a couple days before end of month. Tweets like this always get people fired up and throwing around assumptions in the replies.
Then some bonus snark later, directed at the site that has provided so much for her over the years:
(It's not a secret I don't think it's kosher to, for lack of better terms, shit where you eat.)
I'm pretty sure there was a lot more snark after the election and frankly any big competition (American Idol for instance) generates a ton of claims of cheating things being unfair.
Still, you are right the classy thing isn't to bitch but rather express gratitude to be given the opportunity to compete. That's what you have loyal fans for, to do the bitching for you.
Still, you are right the classy thing isn't to bitch but rather express gratitude to be given the opportunity to compete. That's what you have loyal fans for, to do the bitching for you.
Over the years I have come to expect snark from the strangest of places. I guess it grows alongside the Y.L.A.M. for members and models. I heard another model say a couple of weeks ago that she never wanted to be top 20 simply because that notoriety creates a sense of entitlement in many and changes the persons involved. Those that used to be happy making 1-2k a week taste the big bucks and seem to forget how much better off the lower income bracket is than the majority of the work force in the world.
Understandably more, since that's, you know, mainstream.
Please explain to me how it is snarky, bitter or whatever term you want to use when I or someone else questions the bending of the rules for certain models on MFC. I have no horse in this race, so my interest in this is strictly what the site did, not what these models did or didn't do.
I'm also not a regular in any of these ladies rooms but I have been in their rooms before. Just as I've been in Amber's room and I'm sure several other ladies rooms on this forum. So the models involved in this make no matter to me. It's the principle and ethics of what the site did that I have a problem with. I would be having these same issues if EB got the million dollar token tip instead of the girls that did, less than 48 hours and on the weekend the month ended on.
1st Issue:
Like I told Amber on Twitter, the maximum everyone has and has is 466,500 tokens. Not long after I joined (in 2009) I went through the verification process so I could use the wire transfer option because I had all my credit cards linked with my business and I didn't want token charges on my business account..I then asked (out of curiosity) if I could go over the credit card maximum that was posted on the site. My thinking was that I could drop a big amount on my member account and have tokens when I was away from home on business for sometimes a month at a time. Well, they told me no. Everyone has the same maximum and the maximum will not be changed for anyone. If this has changed, I want to know when it was changed. The way I see it, if it had been changed this before this past week to an unlimited purchase of tokens, why has no one ever tipped a million token tip in the history of MFC before? You all know just as well as I, with the funds that some of these members have, they would have tipped a million way before now if it was possible. There are several members that I "know" and have seen, drop six figure tips like candy. I have no doubts if they had no limit, they would have tipped more than six figures before now. That being said, the first and second time someone tipped millions, just so happened to be on the same day to the number,s two and three on the rankings, just hours before the end of the month? Yea, ok. I was born at night, but not last Friday night.
2nd Issue:
The use of anon on the tip and the lack of chatter from the models about the tip. You are telling me that someone that just spent around $100,000 on a tip, doesn't want anyone to know who it is? Members have many many reasons to tip huge tips, but anonymity is not one of them. Also, the models don't mention anything about the tips on either profile, topics, news feeds, twitter or any other form of social media they use, the remainder of the weekend? How many profiles have you seen that only have screenshots of their high tips as there only pics in their albums? Some will post a 1000 tip but you are telling me these girls are going to stay silent over a million token tip? Sorry, I'm not buying it.
3rd Issue
The timing of it all of this is really hinky. As you all know, you can not get a wire transfer to happen overnight. We all know the response time for MFC is as fast as a snail in the winter on ice, getting wire transfers are no better. With such a large tip amount, if the model that got jumped over, or her people wanted to recover from their adversary's leap up in rank, they would have to use the wire transfer option to catch back up, but you can't do that option because you can't make a bank transfer on a Saturday or Sunday. What a coincidence. The only option they have is the credit card option which limits you to 46,650 a day or 93,300 tokens for the weekend. It would take twelve more members to do exactly the same thing to even collectively come close to matching the million token tip.
(Even then it would be 13 tips of 93,300 not the 1.2 million tip)
3rd Issue:
Posted token amounts don't add up to ranking changes. If you have a moment, go to Kickaz's profile and look at the raffle she had posted for the month. There you will see raffle tickets that have been tipped for in the month of April..It also lists the member's name and how many tickets they have tipped for. Well I grabbed my calculator and added up the top 20 raffle ticket tipper's totals and came up with 5,872 tickets. At 1,111 a ticket, that comes to 6,523,792 tokens. Keep in mind that is just 20 members that got raffle tickets. That's not counting all the other members that tipped her for the rest of the raffle tickets or all the tips she got the rest of the month. I'm no math professor but I can see that it would take several of those million token tips to even come close to what Kickaz made just off 20 of her raffle ticket tippers. The usual retort to that would be that the other models had much more tokens throughout the rest of the month that they didn't need but one of the million token tips to go ahead. My answer to that is, if they had that many tokens that they only needed a million to win, they would have already been ahead of her before last week. Do you follow what I'm saying? Short answer, if number two got a million token tip, she wouldn't come close to what model one already had in the bank (way more than the 6.5 that is already accounted for) to jump over her. It just doesn't add up.
The most common response I have gotten the last few days is, why do you care, it's not your money. Well, my wanting to get to the bottom of this and to see what actually happened is bigger than just a couple tips. In my opinion it goes to the integrity and principle of the site as a whole and the models that work there. I like MFC very much, I have more friends that I talk to regularly on there than I do in real life and I don't want the site to have the reputation of having questionable behavior towards its models and members. If that falls, not only will members start to find other cam sites to visit and the tips will get even worse for the girls that don't have the wealthy bomb throwers that those in the top 20 have. I can not tell you how many times in April I heard model friends tell me that this was the worst month they have had in a very long time. When you have several weeks in a row of lower than average earnings, it of course puts the models in a sour mood, which then translates to a somber room. Which is even worse for trying to get more tips to come in. It's a vicious cycle, but I don't need to tell you all that. The whole purpose of coming to a site like MFC is to have fun, laugh and fap. Sadly, that is decreasing each week as the member numbers per night keep dropping. When the lounge is constantly in the top five most viewed rooms, the site has a big problem.
I also want to apologize for having such a long reply. I've been wanting to voice my opinion on this forum for a long time but I wanted it to be on something that I could voice my views on several things at one time. So if you took the time to read all that, thanks.
I'm also not a regular in any of these ladies rooms but I have been in their rooms before. Just as I've been in Amber's room and I'm sure several other ladies rooms on this forum. So the models involved in this make no matter to me. It's the principle and ethics of what the site did that I have a problem with. I would be having these same issues if EB got the million dollar token tip instead of the girls that did, less than 48 hours and on the weekend the month ended on.
1st Issue:
Like I told Amber on Twitter, the maximum everyone has and has is 466,500 tokens. Not long after I joined (in 2009) I went through the verification process so I could use the wire transfer option because I had all my credit cards linked with my business and I didn't want token charges on my business account..I then asked (out of curiosity) if I could go over the credit card maximum that was posted on the site. My thinking was that I could drop a big amount on my member account and have tokens when I was away from home on business for sometimes a month at a time. Well, they told me no. Everyone has the same maximum and the maximum will not be changed for anyone. If this has changed, I want to know when it was changed. The way I see it, if it had been changed this before this past week to an unlimited purchase of tokens, why has no one ever tipped a million token tip in the history of MFC before? You all know just as well as I, with the funds that some of these members have, they would have tipped a million way before now if it was possible. There are several members that I "know" and have seen, drop six figure tips like candy. I have no doubts if they had no limit, they would have tipped more than six figures before now. That being said, the first and second time someone tipped millions, just so happened to be on the same day to the number,s two and three on the rankings, just hours before the end of the month? Yea, ok. I was born at night, but not last Friday night.
2nd Issue:
The use of anon on the tip and the lack of chatter from the models about the tip. You are telling me that someone that just spent around $100,000 on a tip, doesn't want anyone to know who it is? Members have many many reasons to tip huge tips, but anonymity is not one of them. Also, the models don't mention anything about the tips on either profile, topics, news feeds, twitter or any other form of social media they use, the remainder of the weekend? How many profiles have you seen that only have screenshots of their high tips as there only pics in their albums? Some will post a 1000 tip but you are telling me these girls are going to stay silent over a million token tip? Sorry, I'm not buying it.
3rd Issue
The timing of it all of this is really hinky. As you all know, you can not get a wire transfer to happen overnight. We all know the response time for MFC is as fast as a snail in the winter on ice, getting wire transfers are no better. With such a large tip amount, if the model that got jumped over, or her people wanted to recover from their adversary's leap up in rank, they would have to use the wire transfer option to catch back up, but you can't do that option because you can't make a bank transfer on a Saturday or Sunday. What a coincidence. The only option they have is the credit card option which limits you to 46,650 a day or 93,300 tokens for the weekend. It would take twelve more members to do exactly the same thing to even collectively come close to matching the million token tip.
(Even then it would be 13 tips of 93,300 not the 1.2 million tip)
3rd Issue:
Posted token amounts don't add up to ranking changes. If you have a moment, go to Kickaz's profile and look at the raffle she had posted for the month. There you will see raffle tickets that have been tipped for in the month of April..It also lists the member's name and how many tickets they have tipped for. Well I grabbed my calculator and added up the top 20 raffle ticket tipper's totals and came up with 5,872 tickets. At 1,111 a ticket, that comes to 6,523,792 tokens. Keep in mind that is just 20 members that got raffle tickets. That's not counting all the other members that tipped her for the rest of the raffle tickets or all the tips she got the rest of the month. I'm no math professor but I can see that it would take several of those million token tips to even come close to what Kickaz made just off 20 of her raffle ticket tippers. The usual retort to that would be that the other models had much more tokens throughout the rest of the month that they didn't need but one of the million token tips to go ahead. My answer to that is, if they had that many tokens that they only needed a million to win, they would have already been ahead of her before last week. Do you follow what I'm saying? Short answer, if number two got a million token tip, she wouldn't come close to what model one already had in the bank (way more than the 6.5 that is already accounted for) to jump over her. It just doesn't add up.
The most common response I have gotten the last few days is, why do you care, it's not your money. Well, my wanting to get to the bottom of this and to see what actually happened is bigger than just a couple tips. In my opinion it goes to the integrity and principle of the site as a whole and the models that work there. I like MFC very much, I have more friends that I talk to regularly on there than I do in real life and I don't want the site to have the reputation of having questionable behavior towards its models and members. If that falls, not only will members start to find other cam sites to visit and the tips will get even worse for the girls that don't have the wealthy bomb throwers that those in the top 20 have. I can not tell you how many times in April I heard model friends tell me that this was the worst month they have had in a very long time. When you have several weeks in a row of lower than average earnings, it of course puts the models in a sour mood, which then translates to a somber room. Which is even worse for trying to get more tips to come in. It's a vicious cycle, but I don't need to tell you all that. The whole purpose of coming to a site like MFC is to have fun, laugh and fap. Sadly, that is decreasing each week as the member numbers per night keep dropping. When the lounge is constantly in the top five most viewed rooms, the site has a big problem.
I also want to apologize for having such a long reply. I've been wanting to voice my opinion on this forum for a long time but I wanted it to be on something that I could voice my views on several things at one time. So if you took the time to read all that, thanks.
Lots of stuff here, but as for the 466K limit being exceeded:
http://www.camgirltoolbox.com/new-highest-tip-record-has-been-broken-999999-token-single-tip-on-mfc/
This was in 2015.
So much for editing, this is what I wanted to say after I thought about it.
The 500,000 tip to Kendra is real. That is still the highest tip recorded on MFC
Kendra's tip is the only tip that has been over the stated max for all members. They used the 466,500 in storage with the daily max of 46,650 to have 513,150 tokens to tip. I don't have $100K to see if this theory will work, maybe one the fine people of this forum will tip a 500K or better tip to prove me wrong.
I hope someone can prove me wrong. I'll eat every word i've said on this subject if someone can show me where I am mistaken. I know what MFC told me 7'ish years ago and it doesn't match what is being said about the tips this past weekend. I hope I am wrong, I don't want it to know that MFC is rigging the MissMFC contest but as it stands right now, it looks like they are.
The 999,999 tip that Loca supposedly got by an anon tipper (sound familiar) has been proven to be a fake years ago. It was promoted by one of her regulars that made up a fake screenshot of the "record breaking tip" and spread it to anyone with the internet. Notice you don't see the screenshot around anymore? Now you know why. The tip never happened. But when has the truth ever stopped anything on the internet?
The 500,000 tip to Kendra is real. That is still the highest tip recorded on MFC
Kendra's tip is the only tip that has been over the stated max for all members. They used the 466,500 in storage with the daily max of 46,650 to have 513,150 tokens to tip. I don't have $100K to see if this theory will work, maybe one the fine people of this forum will tip a 500K or better tip to prove me wrong.
I hope someone can prove me wrong. I'll eat every word i've said on this subject if someone can show me where I am mistaken. I know what MFC told me 7'ish years ago and it doesn't match what is being said about the tips this past weekend. I hope I am wrong, I don't want it to know that MFC is rigging the MissMFC contest but as it stands right now, it looks like they are.
Furst off Dis like you demand of everyone else wheres this fucking proof your so religiously behind that 999,999 was a fake tip!?! Bc its from the same person all tips! And why is it so important for you to know who this person is? How about its none your god damn buisness!!!! Where were you guys two years ago!? Noone complained then! Whether you like to believe it is real all 3 !!! And where r you getting #1 got a milliom tip? All that shit was hearsay and marys tipper running his mouth in lounge if u watched youd know it wasnt tipped! Marys room helps her alot!! I mean where were u two years ago! 1.2 million happened ita real whether you like it or not! All this whiney kickaz shit needs to stop! Yeh im team loca! But u know that girl had more class than any of them! She lost and said please go tip mary congratulate her! Here we got kickaz and her boys being unclassy sore losers! Im over this shit! But damn you have some pent up anger dis !!!
Because kickaz comment was sarcastic. And as explained member limits were clearly raised back in 2015. Again you make the accusation rules were bent for a model.
A member queenie says quite the opposite and your a die hard kickaz fanboy.
Again non-stop accusing mfc, again why did you not question this back in 2015 ?
Are you seriously telling me you didn't know loca got tipped 999,999 tokens in October 2015 ? Oh sorry thats not a million token tip
loca's big tips have always been anon ever since I have known about her, 7 years. Well when the tip hit, all 3 lounges were fully aware of it. How it spreads after that is not in anyone's control. As localoca_ and crazym_ are not social media users with twitter why would they post ? Also neither models posts screenshots on their profiles. It's not a crime or suspicious to not post tips.
The tip for loca was made early on thursday 27th practically a full 4 days before missmfc ended, and ?
I see you are now blatantly accusing loca of faking the 999,999 tip as i write here so I will digress a little, I know of one guy at least that was in the room when that 999,999 tip was made and he said verbally it was real and it was not a photoshop job. You say it was proved to be fake yet provide zero evidence.
I'll ask this of you did you see all the tips for the raffle and can confirm their legality as posted on the wall ? Your making a lot of assumptions.
Well for someone who don't care much you really seem to have a bee in your bonnet over it, even coming into L10k and insulting people who don't agree with you.
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That 999 tip is not fake.. it was recorded and deff real. Do you have proof (LIKE LEGIT proof) it's fake? How did she get to number 1 that month if she didn't get it then? How do you explain that? She does not have social media, she has HUGE tippers - LIKE HUGE. Who cares? seriously. It was already explained how she got the huge tip and how token storages were expanded. ON top of it she didn't even win so why are you butt hurt over a girl who didn't even get #1? Crazy M won which means she made more than that 1.2 million token (on top of whatever else Loca made) so its POSSIBLE for a girl to make a shit ton of money without your cheating accusations and beat Loca so Kickaz could have beat her too...
I also know your a Kickaz fan so obviously your standing up for a girl you wanted to win- yes she put in the hours but unfortunately someone else won. The girl everyone is arguing and fighting over didn't even get the crown so who cares.. Seriously. I don't understand what the fuss is about. Kickaz also stated last month was her last month are you going to explain why she's camming this month? it all doesn't matter is the point.
Loca didnt EVEN WIN... Crazy M did.. So did she also cheat?
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Shit, if I was tipping someone that much I'd be anon too
I was surprised by her tweets. Personally I was hoping for another number 2 finish, even though I know her fans were expecting number 1 this month (and for good reason).
I think it was disappointment for her fans, most likely reflecting some of their comments. I suspect she wanted number 1 for them, it would have been a nice way to finish before her long break from camming.
I hate to think that this damages her reputation as an amazing model. Her work ethic, her social media stats, and her entertainment skills are simply epic. Keep in mind that she is a non-nude model in the general sense, and been successful at this for years. There are few models that take care of their members like she does.
Sour grapes anyone? LoL.
I find it funny and sad that a fanboy thinks he has the 'clout' to call the site and its members to the carpet for his perceptions. Clearly "Disillusioned" is working off very outdated info and for some reason thinks his encounter in 2009/10 with customer service is still valid. Its Not. I joined mfc about the same time and I can recall several unrequested limit increases over the years. Also, if i recall correctly, before Olivia left, her room guys were responsible for creating higher limits [via support] so they could all bank in one account for a huge tip. I knew one of them well. He was very candid about the bank providing a letter of credit to mfc so he could make multiple huge tips when outside of the normal business wire day. Not sure how that worked but I saw the proof in tips.
All in all, congrats to the girls of the Romanian machine.
I find it funny and sad that a fanboy thinks he has the 'clout' to call the site and its members to the carpet for his perceptions. Clearly "Disillusioned" is working off very outdated info and for some reason thinks his encounter in 2009/10 with customer service is still valid. Its Not. I joined mfc about the same time and I can recall several unrequested limit increases over the years. Also, if i recall correctly, before Olivia left, her room guys were responsible for creating higher limits [via support] so they could all bank in one account for a huge tip. I knew one of them well. He was very candid about the bank providing a letter of credit to mfc so he could make multiple huge tips when outside of the normal business wire day. Not sure how that worked but I saw the proof in tips.
All in all, congrats to the girls of the Romanian machine.
Exactly. And he added up raffle ticket tips from a profile graphic to figure out token income. Silly tactics.
Right mr proof is basing this off of what he sees on her profile which not saying it is but can be inaccurate!! Its hard for me to believe kickaz didnt get #1 if she actually made 6.5 million in raffle tickets!! Honestly im over all this whining bc if kickaz won we wouldnt be sitting here having these heated concersations! Dis is clueless to the level of money involved with #1 and #2!!
I like the way you're questioning other's tips, but not questioning the idea a single guy spent 1,720,000 tokens tipping for a "Meet in an amusement park".
Honestly, who the fuck cares what the highest tip amount is? Why does it matter "Because someone cheated..." - cheated what? Magically made tokens from thin air? Could stockpile more than anyone else and therefore "win" because... they could tip a massive tip?
I don't understand the outrage. I certainly don't understand the outrage over "this girl supposedly made $300,000 this month from guys tipping but isn't number 1 on a porn site" when you can compare it to "there are people who can't even afford to put food on the table and are malnourished in our own country", yet we're splitting hairs over who is 'number 1'.
Blimey... get over it already. Who gives a whoppity fuck whether someone else "should have won it". It's a fucking html table listing ffs. It isn't a major accolade respected around the world as it shows your selfless compassion and devotion to the needy! No-one cares.
MFC made it because it is a way to make them more money. That's it. Beyond that, it has zero meaning. Nothing, zip, zilch, zero.
The only reason you may care is if you spent $20,000 trying to get your favourite to number 1 because you care about it. Well, tough. If the Number 1 meant enough to you to spend huge volumes, then don't be surprised when someone bigger, richer, better comes along and beats it "because they can". That's life
Now get some decent priorities in your life...
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THANK YOU.
Also your whole post I wish I could love a million times. The only people who are having issues are Kickaz fans and Kickaz herself everyone else does not care. This goes back to my statement in which everyone is so upset about a girl who didn't even win.
Everyone is SOOO fixed on this 1.2 million token tip. Good for Loca I hope she spends it and spoils herself and gives a big fuck you to everyone giving her shit. She has this dude who's willing to spend 1.2 million tokens GREAT for her!! I hope she keeps getting huge tips. There will be girls after her who get bigger tips; it's going to happen.
If you love a model SPEND- then you can get upset when she doesn't win but even then SPEND more to make sure she wins... I mean come' on..
Are none of those double tickets? Pretty sure 'double tuckets' is a regular thing in Kickland.
The 1.2 million was only one of several large tips to LocaLoca, given the massive rank movement she received late in the month..
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Yep... my perv account is in her room often-- "Double Tuckets" is a common thing--
I'm a bottom ranking model and I fail to see why everyone is so up in their feels about this. I'd love to make in a month what some of these girls make in one day--
I'm a bottom ranking model and I fail to see why everyone is so up in their feels about this. I'd love to make in a month what some of these girls make in one day--
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