MFC makes game changing change!!!!!!

[Finebrush]

You might need to have your partner visiting sites through a proxy... Or be goood... Actually the proxy thing works well for very few places.
Anyway, Ladyluna, check if you have dynamic IP or semi-dynamic... rebooting the router via the browser config interface should not reset the general configuration (in several routers the physical reboot button actually changes all the security settings, ports, etc, to default...). Or maybe you pretty well know it's a fixed IP... I mention because that I thought with a previous provider: It turned to be not real fixed, and a reboot would give me a new IP... :lol: I don't want providers with the same IP for ever anymore... great to mount servers at home, but I don't do that...

 

[DudeExtreme]

It's IP address specific. At least I was banned by the best.

Well, I kind of don't get it when developers keep doing the IP bans... this works for fixed IPs, yep, but for many of us having dynamic IPs, or half dynamic, is just a matter of restarting the router to get a new IP... Of course depends on your internet provider. But a lot don't work with fixed IPs.
And in some cases, the users will already have (not on purpose, is just how their connection works) a different IP when they connect again.

Even less effective is when they base it all in cookies. Nothing easier than deleting them (when is data stored from older sessions in these cookies)
IMHO the account based stuff is more effective. Like in gaming comunities, they will not want to use new accounts... As they loose their platinum benefits, etc.

I tried resetting the router that night. nothing and checking my router's settings. My router is dynamic. I was still banned. MFC's ban worked perfectly for me. The way the internet provider set it up going to the residence might be different. I'm glad that it was a only six hours ban. lol

Regardless if there's a work around--the model clicks on one button to ban while the guy will have to at least reset the router, etc to get it to work.

 

[Finebrush]

Well, to be sure, you can always use some service like http://www.myipnumber.com/my-ip-address.asp
And check if it really changes after resetting the router. Actually, this info appears in the router admin, that GUI where one configures the router settings.
(there are many other ways to know it, )

Anyway, usually good services do not ban only your IP, it also account based, and maybe cookies based. So, in this case, resetting the IP would do nothing if it is wished to access with the same account. (A combination of cookies, IP, and account (ie, stuff needed to be checked on server to establish a session, and the ban puts some info there, server-side, I don't know..), would make it pretty hard to skip the ban, imho...) I don't have a clue of how it is done in MFC, as, while have been banned for leaving the session open and just leaving the computer for a while (and there are models who ban inactive users, which is ok as well) , is not something I have felt curious about. And I prefer if the ban is pretty solid.

 

[AmberCutie]

Well, to be sure, you can always use some service like http://www.myipnumber.com/my-ip-address.asp
And check if it really changes after resetting the router. Actually, this info appears in the router admin, that GUI where one configures the router settings.
(there are many other ways to know it, )

Anyway, usually good services do not ban only your IP, it also account based, and maybe cookies based. So, in this case, resetting the IP would do nothing if it is wished to access with the same account. (A combination of cookies, IP, and account (ie, stuff needed to be checked on server to establish a session, and the ban puts some info there, server-side, I don't know..), would make it pretty hard to skip the ban, imho...) I don't have a clue of how it is done in MFC, as, while have been banned for leaving the session open and just leaving the computer for a while (and there are models who ban inactive users, which is ok as well) , is not something I have felt curious about. And I prefer if the ban is pretty solid.

Your verbose post here left me confused, but in case you are actually wondering: MFC uses account AND IP on a ban. So your account still wouldn't be able to get back in if you reset your IP. So yes, making/logging on a new account or logging on as a guest after you reset your IP would let you view the model, I still appreciate that there's some effort that has to be made in order to get around the initial ban.

 

[Finebrush]

Yep, sorry. This is what I was saying (probably I explained myself very poorly, lol). I think that being account based, it can be something stored server side, or it can be just cookies. (and again, if through cookies, something is stored in the server, the user wont be able to do anything, either)

I don't think there could be a danger of any user "guessing" how to "crack" a ban... Because I'd bet MFC have been extremely careful to make what is needed so that to break that would be very hard. And if it initially was, they've had years to make it rock solid. I doubt there'd be reason to fear much in that front... Of course, nothing is 100% secure, but hey...

Edit: I do think that a more rigid combination of account stuff, IP and cookies, would disallow totally the banned user to enter in any manner in the model's room. Which would be surely the proper thing... At least if done with the same browser. (because even with a new IP, the cookies would still might have that info). Tho then, maybe if the user would get into as a guest or other account, and also would use another browser, then is when maybe he would be able to get into the room. But would leave out tons of average Joes.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Okay, definitive test performed in SexySteph's room just now. Signed on with two accounts and had steph ban one of them. After banning I could no longer see new chat or any changes to the list of people in the room. The list did not go away however, so i could still see the ones that were in the room at the time of banning. I also could still see and hear the video perfectly fine. It was only after i left the room and then tried to reenter did I get the BANNED message and could not see her.

My other account was unaffected by the way. So a banning is in no way IP address based. It is only account based.

Then of course steph informs me she didn't remember how to unban someone. :shock: :crybaby:

Okay. I know some people posting after me mentioned banning is based on IP. But an interesting thing just happened to me a few minutes ago. I went into a models room who I've never visited before, never even heard of her. She had the cam focused right on her ass so i couldn't even tell what she looked like and she wasn't talking. So that's a 'no' on the conversation front as well. About 2 minutes later I get the old message 'You do not have permission to enter this chat room.' I could still scroll back up the chat and couldn't see anything as to why, so I have no clue.

At first I'm perplexed at the stupidity of a model who randomly bans people who haven't been rude and have only been in her room a total of a couple minutes EVER. Seems a bit counterproductive to token raising. But then I thought this was a perfect opportunity to test out this threads discussion again. I signed onto another account in another browser, but still from the same IP address, nothing changed on that front. And I was able to go right into her room.

On the account that was banned all chat stopped. The room list of people still showed but it was frozen. No new people entering and none leaving the list. I was still able to to see her since i hadn't left the room on that pop up box. On the second account that was not banned the room behaved normally. All chat, all people on the list updating changes.

Banning is NOT IP based. Can not be. It may have been once. But it is not now. My IP address did not change during this experiment and it was within a few minutes when I went into her room again under a different account while still showing banned on the first account.

If someone has a second account (or more) and another browser, or the wherewithal to open an incognito window in the same browser, they will have the ability to be back in your room immediately under a new name.


Edit - Just reread someones suggestion that in the previous experiment if i had closed down the 'banned' browser window I wouldn't have been able to get in on either account or browser. I just tried that too. Closed down the banned account. Tried going back in. Was not able to see her video as expected. Pulled up another browser to sign into another account. Her room pulled up fine. All video, all chat. No problem at all.

 

[VeronicaChaos]

Okay, definitive test performed in SexySteph's room just now. Signed on with two accounts and had steph ban one of them. After banning I could no longer see new chat or any changes to the list of people in the room. The list did not go away however, so i could still see the ones that were in the room at the time of banning. I also could still see and hear the video perfectly fine. It was only after i left the room and then tried to reenter did I get the BANNED message and could not see her.

My other account was unaffected by the way. So a banning is in no way IP address based. It is only account based.

Then of course steph informs me she didn't remember how to unban someone. :shock: :crybaby:

Okay. I know some people posting after me mentioned banning is based on IP. But an interesting thing just happened to me a few minutes ago. I went into a models room who I've never visited before, never even heard of her. She had the cam focused right on her ass so i couldn't even tell what she looked like and she wasn't talking. So that's a 'no' on the conversation front as well. About 2 minutes later I get the old message 'You do not have permission to enter this chat room.' I could still scroll back up the chat and couldn't see anything as to why, so I have no clue.

At first I'm perplexed at the stupidity of a model who randomly bans people who haven't been rude and have only been in her room a total of a couple minutes EVER. Seems a bit counterproductive to token raising. But then I thought this was a perfect opportunity to test out this threads discussion again. I signed onto another account in another browser, but still from the same IP address, nothing changed on that front. And I was able to go right into her room.

On the account that was banned all chat stopped. The room list of people still showed but it was frozen. No new people entering and none leaving the list. I was still able to to see her since i hadn't left the room on that pop up box. On the second account that was not banned the room behaved normally. All chat, all people on the list updating changes.

Banning is NOT IP based. Can not be. It may have been once. But it is not now. My IP address did not change during this experiment and it was within a few minutes when I went into her room again under a different account while still showing banned on the first account.

If someone has a second account (or more) and another browser, or the wherewithal to open an incognito window in the same browser, they will have the ability to be back in your room immediately under a new name.

There's also a weird MFC glitch that "bans" members randomly. I had a friend get "banned" once and he was also able to get in with a new browser. Not saying that it was a glitch, but it seems suspicious. I have a feeling that the glitch, since it's not a real ban, is not IP based, but banning is. Once I was perving on Sophia before getting on and she was playing the Ban-A-Basic game and I decided to play and made a new basic account and after I got banned I couldn't enter the room under my premium name.

And yes, this glitch really makes life fun when someone who was cool sends an angry MFC mail wondering wtf happened.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

And yes, this glitch really makes life fun when someone who was cool sends an angry MFC mail wondering wtf happened.

I did send a mail, but I kept it civil. Pinkie swear. :lol: Mostly I asked her how she thought it was good business sense to ban people after a couple minutes without knowing anything about them. Seems like those would be the people who could continue forking over tokens to you in the future.

If it was a glitch i'll probably never know. I placed her on ignore status. On all my accounts.

 

[Sevrin]

I once had a ban screen show up after a browser glitch and then was unbanned when I restarted the same browser, and on the same account. It didn't appear to have been an oops ban, either.

When the unexplained happens on MFC I put it down to MFC glitch first, then a simple error on the part of a model. There are, of course, some models who ban people they suspect of being someone they've had trouble with, but there aren't many cases like that.

 

[Finebrush]

Well, I'm terrible trying to remember what I did post in a certain thread, and too lazy now to dig and re-read my own post, lol... But the thing is, I think I mentioned that I suspect it is both IP, and some data more, in combination. That is, a two or more condition must apply so that the ban applies. If I remember well, and right now, I don't either remember how I did arrived to that conclusion, I felt that it is using the user account nick, plus cookies, plus IP. Consider that as a pretty safe way to do it. But I have worked inside a team developing web portals and stuff, and just trying to "guess" what is really happening there, is a bit crazy.... Yet though... doing it only IP based would, as I recall I mentioned, be non safe, as rebooting a router will change the IP for many user's (as is how many Internet providers work). Doing only cookies based can be bypassed just deleting your cookies, or using an incognito browser window. BUT...If the javascript or whatever the code is written so that without cookies the actual code wont let you do anything, well, cookies then could be enough. But IMO, it's using both things. And most surely of course the user name. (to test this you could just have some friend ban you, then log in with same account, different IP. very silly test, as MFC for sure took in consideration dynamic IP inet providers.) So, my bet is a combo of IP, cookies, user nick. But I could be blatantly wrong, as I'm doing a real wild guess here... haha.

About the 2 minutes ban. It's more common than one could expect... Many models do automatically ban you if you don say hello at arrival. Some truly hate that a member arrives and stares doing nothing. This happens more in rooms or days with very little traffic. In more successful ones this I guess is not an issue, all the opposite. Others, as crazy as it sounds, ban one guy while they wanted to ban another (at the time of banning they make put the wrong nick) . Sometimes asking friendly the reason by mfc mail ends up in you getting to know what actually happened. I never *ever* acted in a room in a way I could be banned with a reason, but have been banned by error, and probably due to that mentioned glitch. Just never let it get to you, as there seems to be other possibilities, not necessarily that the model wants you out. True that is mostly a model's issue, as the member usually wont get really mad, just wont be back around there... (tokens lost! )

Well, you know this way way better than me...

 

[Finebrush]

Oooops!

Sorry. Hadn't read your case well. True, can't be IP based.

I would make a test, if I were in your case, but only because I'm a weirdly curious person, not that I would care a single bit about a model banning me (I mean, is unimportant). It would be just trying to delete the cookies but only those related to mfc site, and then see what happens. Hum... And...no, this is not opening a can of worms, as if the security measures of the site are that bad, the sooner that it gets to be known and improved, the better... I would be surprised if just deleting the cookies in the browser where you can't enter the room, would suffice.

I think it does make something relating both nick name and cookies.

 

[sv89]

On ubuntu 64bit there used to be a glitch that after a few minutes it would say your banned.

 

[DudeExtreme]

Okay, definitive test performed in SexySteph's room just now. Signed on with two accounts and had steph ban one of them. After banning I could no longer see new chat or any changes to the list of people in the room. The list did not go away however, so i could still see the ones that were in the room at the time of banning. I also could still see and hear the video perfectly fine. It was only after i left the room and then tried to reenter did I get the BANNED message and could not see her.

My other account was unaffected by the way. So a banning is in no way IP address based. It is only account based.

Then of course steph informs me she didn't remember how to unban someone. :shock: :crybaby:

Okay. I know some people posting after me mentioned banning is based on IP. But an interesting thing just happened to me a few minutes ago. I went into a models room who I've never visited before, never even heard of her. She had the cam focused right on her ass so i couldn't even tell what she looked like and she wasn't talking. So that's a 'no' on the conversation front as well. About 2 minutes later I get the old message 'You do not have permission to enter this chat room.' I could still scroll back up the chat and couldn't see anything as to why, so I have no clue.

At first I'm perplexed at the stupidity of a model who randomly bans people who haven't been rude and have only been in her room a total of a couple minutes EVER. Seems a bit counterproductive to token raising. But then I thought this was a perfect opportunity to test out this threads discussion again. I signed onto another account in another browser, but still from the same IP address, nothing changed on that front. And I was able to go right into her room.

On the account that was banned all chat stopped. The room list of people still showed but it was frozen. No new people entering and none leaving the list. I was still able to to see her since i hadn't left the room on that pop up box. On the second account that was not banned the room behaved normally. All chat, all people on the list updating changes.

Banning is NOT IP based. Can not be. It may have been once. But it is not now. My IP address did not change during this experiment and it was within a few minutes when I went into her room again under a different account while still showing banned on the first account.

If someone has a second account (or more) and another browser, or the wherewithal to open an incognito window in the same browser, they will have the ability to be back in your room immediately under a new name.


Edit - Just reread someones suggestion that in the previous experiment if i had closed down the 'banned' browser window I wouldn't have been able to get in on either account or browser. I just tried that too. Closed down the banned account. Tried going back in. Was not able to see her video as expected. Pulled up another browser to sign into another account. Her room pulled up fine. All video, all chat. No problem at all.

It's been over a year since I tried it so the IP address specific sounds like something has changed. At the time, I tried different computers/laptops, different browsers, resetting router nothing. I had fun trying.

 

[Maya]

I once got the banned message as a guest in every room, when my Flash-Plugin (I think, it was) crashed.

Looks like the banned message just shows up as a default not loading screen.