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[bob]

I'm glad I came back to see... I forgot I was out of yeast to make bread this week. :-D

Wheat-free tapioca bread (hard to find) is good too...especially for cinnamon toast. I tried it for the first time this past summer when I was looking for wheat-free bread.

tapioca bread? that's a new one....tickles my taste buds just thinking about it

 

[UncleThursday]

It's for this reason, I wish MFC had separate lists. A friends/favorite list, and a perv list, as it were.

The first is for the models you interact with, talk to, laugh with, etc. The second is for models you put on there purely for the potential fapping that could occur.

I tend to remove the latter from my list as I realize I never want any interaction with them beyond the potential for a wank when I'm horny. The former stay on there, even if they haven't logged in in a while. I've actually seen some come back after long hiatus periods, and it's good to see them return. I'm kind of hoping this happens with Aly_Darling, for example, who hasn't been on since September, but I (and her other regs) do want her to come back.

I have to agree with Iris, though... when you hear a model that you know does well enough (consistent top 20 for example) complain about tokens and/or Miss MFC ranking, that it becomes a major turn off when it comes to going to her room. The same if you follow them on twitter and they talk about it all the time there, too.

As an example, without naming names, there's one girl who I used to like being in her room. She has been pretty consistent in the top 20 for months. She has finished in the top 3, and she has been pretty much top 10 every month for most of this year. So, we all know she's doing fairly well for herself based on that. She's also young (just turned 19 this year), single, no kids. But, there are times she just whines and whines about tokens and placement in the top 20. I even saw her literally scream at her room one day (the last day I ever went to her room) because they didn't finish a 10k token countdown withiin 2 hours of her logging in, then rage log off. I don't know about the rest of you out there, but I wish my biggest concern was not making $500 (before taxes) in 2 hours... Hell, I'd be very happy if I made half of that in a day at my job... but with how cheap my company is when it comes to paying its employees, that will never happen, no matter how much profit they bring in.

Her topics are expensive, which is her right. And she normally makes 90% of them every day (her topics go topless, nude, some sort of show... and she normally does 2-3 shows a day, with no less than 10K-15K tokens between the total token goals to get to each show). But she'll even post to twitter after logging off how many tokens she is short of her goal. I saw one tweet where she said she was 3k from goal for the day.

And that's the sort of attitude I think that makes members decide "she doesn't need me" when they hear it. When you hear a consistent top 10 or so model complaining about not reaching a token goal, and you're a normal guy working a normal job, hearing someone complain they didn't make a few hundred bucks in a day sort of makes you not care. If Donald Trump, Rupert Murdoch (News Corp.), Bill Gates, Tim Cook (CEO of Apple) or some other well known rich person were to complain about not making enough money in a day, I'm sure everyone on here, and most of the world, would be like "boo hoo, you rich fuck"; and that can happen when it comes to some of the models who you know are doing better than you complaining about not making enough in a day.

There are models who struggle to make $1000 a month with camming. There are members who have to put in massive amounts of overtime (10+ hours in a week) to bring home (sometimes less than) $500 a week. And when you hear about someone complaining they didn't make a few hundred bucks in a day towards their daily goal, when you know they're not struggling to make ends meet? Well, people not making that sort of money can tend to really not care.

I'm going to put Iris on the spot here as the type of attitude I like in a model, though. I have never seen her complain about tokens, publicly, even though I am sure there are days/weeks/months she probably complains to herself about them. She keeps herself upbeat and fun when on cam. She interacts with people in her room as much as she can. And she makes tokens just for being herself. She probably makes more than me, but when I tip her, I don't care about it; because she isn't all in her room's face about token goals or MIss MFC placement and such.

Attitude when on cam can mean a lot when it comes to making money. It might not be living in the lap of luxury, but if it is enough to get you by, then any extra is just icing on the cake.

 

[wjr3]

It's for this reason, I wish MFC had separate lists. A friends/favorite list, and a perv list, as it were.

The first is for the models you interact with, talk to, laugh with, etc. The second is for models you put on there purely for the potential fapping that could occur.

Great idea. I suspect many of us have exactly such distinctions.

I have to agree with Iris, though... when you hear a model that you know does well enough (consistent top 20 for example) complain about tokens and/or Miss MFC ranking, that it becomes a major turn off when it comes to going to her room. The same if you follow them on twitter and they talk about it all the time there, too.

It's not just the so-called "top" models, either. Non-stop reminders about daily goals and countdowns is a definite turnoff. When the tone changes from "enjoy me" (which should bring tokens from members who are inclined to do so anyway) to "pay me", I'm usually outta there.

Attitude when on cam can mean a lot when it comes to making money.

Amen to this ^

 

[SoTxBob]

rice flower bread isnt really to my liking. This week I'm making sourdough french and some whole wheat raisin pecan bread. problem is that the sourdough never deems to last long enough to make a single sammich ! :-D

 

[LadyLuna]

Re: Nazis are the Thread-killer

To all the hard-working models that have finally achieved at least a modicum of financial stability, I know I speak for many when I extend a virtual handshake and a "Job well done".

For those that are reading this and are still struggling; Keep at it, all things do get better with effort and patience.

To Everyone - Has Godwin's Law held any sway on these boards in the past?
Undoubtedly a first for someone...
Guests are like Nazis - They always have something idiotically entertaining to say.

Never heard of this, and there are certainly plenty of threads in which nazi's and/or Hitler were never brought up.

Around here, when the forum members and models want to close a thread down, they start posting pony pics. If the discussion continues around the pony pics, then the thread stays up.

 

[Nordling]

Re: Nazis are the Thread-killer

To all the hard-working models that have finally achieved at least a modicum of financial stability, I know I speak for many when I extend a virtual handshake and a "Job well done".

For those that are reading this and are still struggling; Keep at it, all things do get better with effort and patience.

To Everyone - Has Godwin's Law held any sway on these boards in the past?
Undoubtedly a first for someone...
Guests are like Nazis - They always have something idiotically entertaining to say.

Never heard of this, and there are certainly plenty of threads in which nazi's and/or Hitler were never brought up.

Around here, when the forum members and models want to close a thread down, they start posting pony pics. If the discussion continues around the pony pics, then the thread stays up.

Often, Godwin's Law (which is more of an idea than a real law) has been interpreted to mean that as soon as Hitler or the nazis are brought up, it will bring a thread down. The law really only states that any thread, if it continues long enough, will include a sudden use of Hitler or nazis in a comparison, although one can interpret this to mean that if a thread goes on long enough, it will devolve into silliness.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I have to agree with Iris, though... when you hear a model that you know does well enough (consistent top 20 for example) complain about tokens and/or Miss MFC ranking, that it becomes a major turn off when it comes to going to her room. The same if you follow them on twitter and they talk about it all the time there, too.

Me and Lily were talking about this exact thing last night! We were watching AspenRae on her birthday, one of the things I love about her is well, she clearly makes fuck loads, and she always acts appreciative of it! I have never once seen that girl moaning about not making tokens/getting bitchy, even the times when it's slower than usual. She's always really upbeat, and why shouldn't she be? As far as I know she's a just turned 22 year old girl, no kids, who's earning god knows how much each month from doing something she seems to really enjoy! Like everyone else I'm sure she will have her own issues, but her life, especially her life on cam seems pretty amazing.
Everyone has their token goals/what they need to make. If say you're on a night where literally everyone refuses to tip for several hours with a full room, then understandable when the model is upset/might get a little bitchy, but when everyone's tipping/being nice and the model randomly starts screaming at the guys because they're not pulling in their unrealistic token goal super quickly.
That is a different thing though to not wanting to visit models because they get popular. When a night is going well/I'm making my aims I will not whine, whilst if nothing's happening then I might, more popular for me would usually mean I would whine less... because my nights would be easier/more fun.

 

[UncleThursday]

I have to agree with Iris, though... when you hear a model that you know does well enough (consistent top 20 for example) complain about tokens and/or Miss MFC ranking, that it becomes a major turn off when it comes to going to her room. The same if you follow them on twitter and they talk about it all the time there, too.

Me and Lily were talking about this exact thing last night! We were watching AspenRae on her birthday, one of the things I love about her is well, she clearly makes fuck loads, and she always acts appreciative of it! I have never once seen that girl moaning about not making tokens/getting bitchy, even the times when it's slower than usual. She's always really upbeat, and why shouldn't she be? As far as I know she's a just turned 22 year old girl, no kids, who's earning god knows how much each month from doing something she seems to really enjoy! Like everyone else I'm sure she will have her own issues, but her life, especially her life on cam seems pretty amazing.

Aspen keeps herself upbeat every time I have seen her. Her room is too busy for me to deal with, personally, though. Just scrolls by too fast when it seems half the world's population is in there. But, yes, she always acknowledges even small tips in a cheery manner. In the socks thread, I saw her from the homepage, loaded her in the lounge 10k, then sent her a 10 token tip just asking in the note if she could show off the socks. And she simply smiled and said "absolutely!" and the result is the leg up pic in that thread. She has no idea who I am, but she fully acknowledged my small tip and request.

Aspen is another example of how attitude can help bring the tokens in. She almost always has a big smile on her face when I mouse over her on the homepage. She acknowledges even small tips with reasonable requests (let's face it, "can you show off the socks" is a fairly reasonable and mundane request for 10 tokens, it's not like I asked her to fuck her ass while screaming my name for 10 tokens :lol: ). She's a very pretty girl, who has one of the most attractive faces online when she is on, which helps. Sure, she doesn't have much of a chest, which may be a turn off to some, but she keeps herself natural, and she has a great stomach and bum, as well as nice legs. So all those all help, too. She laughs, she talks to people. And she makes fucktons of tokens because of al of this; even if she isn't on like she used to be.

There's an interview online from when she won that Miss Howard Stern thing a year or so back. Howard asked her how much she makes, but she said she didn't want to give specifics, then he asked does she make over $100k a year... and she said yes. So, that gives you some idea of what she was making then, and now she has her own website and such. But, we also have to remember where she lives, which is definitely Southern California, and maybe the LA area. The LA area is expensive to live in, just ask PlayboyMegan. It's kind of like living in Manhattan or one of the other Burroughs of NYC. $100k a year barely breaks middle class. Now, if she lived out in the corn fields of Iowa or something, that would be great money. So, how much anyone makes is all relative to where they live.

Is her life amazing? No idea. Not my business to know or ask. But, even if she has major issues, she knows how to keep them off cam and work her cam persona to make it appear to everyone watching her that she has not a care in the world.

Everyone has their token goals/what they need to make. If say you're on a night where literally everyone refuses to tip for several hours with a full room, then understandable when the model is upset/might get a little bitchy, but when everyone's tipping/being nice and the model randomly starts screaming at the guys because they're not pulling in their unrealistic token goal super quickly.
That is a different thing though to not wanting to visit models because they get popular. When a night is going well/I'm making my aims I will not whine, whilst if nothing's happening then I might, more popular for me would usually mean I would whine less... because my nights would be easier/more fun.

I know every model has their goals. I know a model who raises 4 kids and doesn't make much more than my meager base salary a year. But, where she lives, she can live off it. Would she love to make more? Absolutely. Does she complain about not making enough? Only if guys keep begging without tipping, and even then it's more of the "show some love for requests" over complaining.

I know other models who get more uppity about token goals, but some of them are studio girls, so they probably have at least a monthly if not weekly or even daily quota to make at the studio. So I can forgive them if they seem to be more up front about getting tokens.

What gets me is when you see things like I saw earlier this month: "number one daily goal, 150k tokens" from a fairly popular model. Don't know if she got it. Don't honestly care. Not even sure if she's even in the top 20 anymore. But, let's be serious, here... asking for $7500 in a day, blatantly, in a topic is a bit much. That's why it stuck with me. My base pay (no overtime, just 40 hours a week) is less than 1/3 of that in a month... and to see someone ask for that much in a day.... well, I can assure you where none of my tokens went.

Plus, I seem to remember models saying this time of year can be slow, anyway. Which is understandable with the holidays. I'll still try to throw some tokens to my favorites with a happy holidays wish, but probably about a quarter of what I normally try to give. Money's tight. It happens. But, it's not like I could send thousands to them, anyway. But my favorites know I don't make a ton, and they don't care that I'm not one of their biggest tippers, they just enjoy me hanging out when I can. And that's why they're my favorites.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Howard asked her how much she makes, but she said she didn't want to give specifics, then he asked does she make over $100k a year... and she said yes. So, that gives you some idea of what she was making then, and now she has her own website and such.

I would think she's closer to making $100k a month.... well, every couple of months. She's always in the top 20, which implies she makes inbetween $25k-$40k, then include how much she makes on her website + whatever other modelling type things she does. I have to say, money can't buy you happiness, but it does open a lot of doorways, and if I were earning that kind of amount I would have very little to stress over. Personally if I were going to tip someone who I know is earning that kind of amount, I would rather tip someone who's clearly enjoying being rich and generally loving life than someone who is still whining about not making enough.

 

[Anonymous]

tapioca bread? that's a new one....tickles my taste buds just thinking about it

My grandmom got my son into it (he's allergic to wheat), and he came back from her house with a new love for wheat-free tapioca bread (for making cinnamon toast)...lol.

 

[Shaun__]

Howard asked her how much she makes, but she said she didn't want to give specifics, then he asked does she make over $100k a year... and she said yes. So, that gives you some idea of what she was making then, and now she has her own website and such.

I would think she's closer to making $100k a month.... well, every couple of months. She's always in the top 20, which implies she makes inbetween $25k-$40k, then include how much she makes on her website + whatever other modelling type things she does. I have to say, money can't buy you happiness, but it does open a lot of doorways, and if I were earning that kind of amount I would have very little to stress over. Personally if I were going to tip someone who I know is earning that kind of amount, I would rather tip someone who's clearly enjoying being rich and generally loving life than someone who is still whining about not making enough.

I am so boring, but whenever I see a model making that kind of money I hope they are investing in their future. So many people live check to check no matter how much they make, and the future catches up to them one day.

 

[Just Me]

Howard asked her how much she makes, but she said she didn't want to give specifics, then he asked does she make over $100k a year... and she said yes. So, that gives you some idea of what she was making then, and now she has her own website and such.

I would think she's closer to making $100k a month.... well, every couple of months. She's always in the top 20, which implies she makes inbetween $25k-$40k, then include how much she makes on her website + whatever other modelling type things she does. I have to say, money can't buy you happiness, but it does open a lot of doorways, and if I were earning that kind of amount I would have very little to stress over. Personally if I were going to tip someone who I know is earning that kind of amount, I would rather tip someone who's clearly enjoying being rich and generally loving life than someone who is still whining about not making enough.

I am so boring, but whenever I see a model making that kind of money I hope they are investing in their future. So many people live check to check no matter how much they make, and the future catches up to them one day.

Completely agree. Especially with this type of job. The sad thing is, not unlike professional athletes, many blow all they make and end up having to be like the rest of us and find a regular job. Can we blame them though? I know I could have done much better with money management in my youth as well. It is just not something most of us put much thought into when we are young. :crybaby:

 

[Jessi]

I am so boring, but whenever I see a model making that kind of money I hope they are investing in their future. So many people live check to check no matter how much they make, and the future catches up to them one day.

An important thing! After a harsh reality check 1/3 of everything I make goes into a savings account that is NOT to be touched,ever. And its not a huge number yet. But I consider my successes by how big my savings account is, not how much clothes or whatever I can buy. I won't be able to cam forever, and I want something to show for it when I'm done. I wish I had started saving a lot sooner.

 

[sweetiebatman]

The "rainy day fund" as I call it is key, Unexpected shit will pop up at the worst of times. I started mine after i had an unexpected car problem i had not budgeted for, cost me a few hundred £££ but it set me back months so now i put a bit aside each month "just in case"

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I am so boring, but whenever I see a model making that kind of money I hope they are investing in their future. So many people live check to check no matter how much they make, and the future catches up to them one day.

An important thing! After a harsh reality check 1/3 of everything I make goes into a savings account that is NOT to be touched,ever. And its not a huge number yet. But I consider my successes by how big my savings account is, not how much clothes or whatever I can buy. I won't be able to cam forever, and I want something to show for it when I'm done. I wish I had started saving a lot sooner.

This had been my plan, unfortunately although I earn quite a bit atm, I had a load of issues at the start of the year with my internet and am still paying off debts from them! Soon as they've all been paid off like you I'm going to have a set amount go straight to a savings account soon as my mid monthly payday comes in.

 

[Jessi]

I am so boring, but whenever I see a model making that kind of money I hope they are investing in their future. So many people live check to check no matter how much they make, and the future catches up to them one day.

An important thing! After a harsh reality check 1/3 of everything I make goes into a savings account that is NOT to be touched,ever. And its not a huge number yet. But I consider my successes by how big my savings account is, not how much clothes or whatever I can buy. I won't be able to cam forever, and I want something to show for it when I'm done. I wish I had started saving a lot sooner.

This had been my plan, unfortunately although I earn quite a bit atm, I had a load of issues at the start of the year with my internet and am still paying off debts from them! Soon as they've all been paid off like you I'm going to have a set amount go straight to a savings account soon as my mid monthly payday comes in.

If I get sick/injured/maimed in some way I have no way to guarantee my job security. I'm not sure if I even qualify for unemployment assistance. It feels good knowing that if something happens to me I have that safety net for at least a couple months. I almost want to make a money management discussion in Models Only once I get everything sorted out, but I'm worried it would look really condescending and maybe I'm the only one who was so clueless . I wish they'd teach something about money finances in high school. Or my parents had told me SOMETHING.

 

[Kradek]

I think the most important thing my Dad taught me about money was the value of time with respect to savings. Save early and save often. Time and compound interest do the rest.

For example, if a person started saving $2000/year at 20 and saved each year until they were 30 and then quit, they would end up with more money than someone who started at 30 and saved $2000/year for the next 35 years, assuming they can earn at least 6%/year.

Here is a spreadsheet showing how that works at 9%, which isn't completely unreasonable given time. Obviously, you don't get 9% in a savings account, you have to put it in something more aggressive, but with time to work with, you can easily afford the volatility. The turning point is around 5.9ish%. If you earn less than that per/year, person 2 comes out slightly ahead.

 

[bud9752]

remember that models have to pay taxes on their incomes and,correct me if I'm wrong, MFC doesn't do any withholding of Fed,state or Social Security(FICA) so anywhere from 20-50% of that big number you are speculating on goes(must be set aside) to/for the various TAX agencies from the models paycheck, not to mention no retirement account or medical coverage other than what they personally pay for.

unless a model actually tells us(the perving community) what they actually make on an average per month it is just rumors and propaganda. (also, really not any of our business) :twocents-02cents:

 

[FrenchKitty]

I almost want to make a money management discussion in Models Only once I get everything sorted out, but I'm worried it would look really condescending and maybe I'm the only one who was so clueless . I wish they'd teach something about money finances in high school. Or my parents had told me SOMETHING.

I'm VERY clueless.........please do it

 

[mynameisbob84]

I almost want to make a money management discussion in Models Only once I get everything sorted out, but I'm worried it would look really condescending and maybe I'm the only one who was so clueless . I wish they'd teach something about money finances in high school. Or my parents had told me SOMETHING.

I'm VERY clueless.........please do it

I'm not a model (or aren't I? ) but I'd definitely benefit from money management advice. My finances are thoroughly depressing and I need to do... something, in order to stop shit from snowballing, lest I find myself in insurmountable debt.

 

[Zoomer]

remember that models have to pay taxes on their incomes and,correct me if I'm wrong, MFC doesn't do any withholding of Fed,state or Social Security(FICA) so anywhere from 20-50% of that big number you are speculating on goes(must be set aside) to/for the various TAX agencies from the models paycheck, not to mention no retirement account or medical coverage other than what they personally pay for.

unless a model actually tells us(the perving community) what they actually make on an average per month it is just rumors and propaganda. (also, really not any of our business) :twocents-02cents:

and back to reality - EVERYONE pays the same taxes at the same rate. If you earn over a certain threshold, you may pay a higher rate of tax on earnings over that threshold, but we all pay the taxes.

You can equate how much a model makes per month to how much I make per month... because we both pay taxes on those earnings.

So the point is relatively pointless as we are all in the same boat. Unless you don't declare your earnings of course. Then God help you

Glad to hear some save, really wish more models did this as well. Would love to hear about it from some who earn large quantities (the more successful) as to how they diversify their savings. Brought it up about 2 years ago? Does Aspen buy property to let out, building up a solid portfolio to retire upon? Certain European models certainly could due to the relative cheap cost of property in their countries, and the potential for the values to rise over the next 10-20 years as part of the Eurozone.

But people - models, members or others, should live within their means. If your income changes, so should the means. Hopefully everyone can find a little to save, but I know there are a large majority (not even represented here necessarily) who really do struggle to even maintain a very basic standard of living - let alone a few luxuries such as going out, drinking alcohol or other things.

 

[NoelleBright]

remember that models have to pay taxes on their incomes and,correct me if I'm wrong, MFC doesn't do any withholding of Fed,state or Social Security(FICA) so anywhere from 20-50% of that big number you are speculating on goes(must be set aside) to/for the various TAX agencies from the models paycheck, not to mention no retirement account or medical coverage other than what they personally pay for.

unless a model actually tells us(the perving community) what they actually make on an average per month it is just rumors and propaganda. (also, really not any of our business) :twocents-02cents:

and back to reality - EVERYONE pays the same taxes at the same rate. If you earn over a certain threshold, you may pay a higher rate of tax on earnings over that threshold, but we all pay the taxes.

You can equate how much a model makes per month to how much I make per month... because we both pay taxes on those earnings.

So the point is relatively pointless as we are all in the same boat. Unless you don't declare your earnings of course. Then God help you

Only it's not really.
When a girl gets a 100,000 token tip, it's easy for guys to go "OMG, she just made 5k in one tip!" and assume that the 5k will be going directly into her pocket, they forget that not all of it is hers. I think that's the point that's being made here.
When people speculate what a model makes, they look at her approximate token earnings and don't take into account that in the end, she's going to be coughing up a lot of it.
I know that we all pay taxes, but the difference is that when you get your paycheck, you look at the amount you're actually receiving. You don't add in your taxes and say you earned $1600, when you're really only putting $1200 in your bank account.

 

[mynameisbob84]

I'm with Zoomer on this one. Kinda. Of course cam girls pay taxes (and the top models pay more taxes than most once they hit that higher tax bracket) but so does everyone else.
If a model gets a 100,000 token tip, no matter how you look at it, that's a lot of money for the model. Even if she only winds up with half of that after taxes and whatever else, $2500 earned in the time it takes for the member to hit the tip button... that's a lot of money earned in a very short amount of time.
But I don't think that's a bad thing or something that needs to be defended or justified or anything. I don't think it's a secret that the top models earn a lot of money, and good for them, ya know? It just means they're doing well in their chosen profession; a profession that allows them the potential to earn more money than most people.

 

[AmberCutie]

I think some of you guys would be surprised how many casual camsite viewers believe that camming isn't a real job, thus, the camgirl pockets every nickel. I've gotten the question numerous times "do you have to pay taxes on this?" And my reply is something along the lines of "Of course, silly, anyone with a job has to pay taxes on their income."

I know the majority of members here at ACF are much more educated about the whole camming process than a huge portion of MFC's member base, so to you guys it seems common sense and common knowledge.

I know that we all pay taxes, but the difference is that when you get your paycheck, you look at the amount you're actually receiving. You don't add in your taxes and say you earned $1600, when you're really only putting $1200 in your bank account.

This part is what I mainly thanked for. When I used to get a payroll paycheck, I never looked at the gross amount, only the net that was going into my bank account. I never really put all that much thought or emotion into the part of the check that detailed how much was going to the government. Once I started getting deposits from MFC and seeing how much of a difference there really is after you set aside taxes did I realize how heartbreaking it was, lol.

 

[Kradek]

This part is what I mainly thanked for. When I used to get a payroll paycheck, I never looked at the gross amount, only the net that was going into my bank account. I never really put all that much thought or emotion into the part of the check that detailed how much was going to the government. Once I started getting deposits from MFC and seeing how much of a difference there really is after you set aside taxes did I realize how heartbreaking it was, lol.

I almost feel like everyone should have to work on a 1099 basis, or some other version of self-employed, for a year or two minimum, so that they experience actually writing those checks for taxes, the full social security amount (employers pay half of that when your a salaried employee), health insurance, etc. You get a much better idea of just how much money goes into those things when it's not automatically deducted.

 

[Shaun__]

When I used to get a payroll paycheck, I never looked at the gross amount, only the net that was going into my bank account. I never really put all that much thought or emotion into the part of the check that detailed how much was going to the government. Once I started getting deposits from MFC and seeing how much of a difference there really is after you set aside taxes did I realize how heartbreaking it was, lol.

I try not to look at my gross income except when I file my taxes.

 

[NoelleBright]

I think some of you guys would be surprised how many casual camsite viewers believe that camming isn't a real job, thus, the camgirl pockets every nickel. I've gotten the question numerous times "do you have to pay taxes on this?" And my reply is something along the lines of "Of course, silly, anyone with a job has to pay taxes on their income."

I know the majority of members here at ACF are much more educated about the whole camming process than a huge portion of MFC's member base, so to you guys it seems common sense and common knowledge.

I know that we all pay taxes, but the difference is that when you get your paycheck, you look at the amount you're actually receiving. You don't add in your taxes and say you earned $1600, when you're really only putting $1200 in your bank account.

This part is what I mainly thanked for. When I used to get a payroll paycheck, I never looked at the gross amount, only the net that was going into my bank account. I never really put all that much thought or emotion into the part of the check that detailed how much was going to the government. Once I started getting deposits from MFC and seeing how much of a difference there really is after you set aside taxes did I realize how heartbreaking it was, lol.

For even the members who do see it as a "real" job, a lot of them aren't aware that we are employed as independent contractors. The assumption that MFC already takes out our taxes and that it's included in the 50% of the money that we don't see is pretty common.

Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure I had to pay a pretty decent sized fee just because I was self employed, on top of the taxes that they would normally take out.

 

[VeronicaChaos]

I think some of you guys would be surprised how many casual camsite viewers believe that camming isn't a real job, thus, the camgirl pockets every nickel. I've gotten the question numerous times "do you have to pay taxes on this?" And my reply is something along the lines of "Of course, silly, anyone with a job has to pay taxes on their income."

I know the majority of members here at ACF are much more educated about the whole camming process than a huge portion of MFC's member base, so to you guys it seems common sense and common knowledge.

I know that we all pay taxes, but the difference is that when you get your paycheck, you look at the amount you're actually receiving. You don't add in your taxes and say you earned $1600, when you're really only putting $1200 in your bank account.

This part is what I mainly thanked for. When I used to get a payroll paycheck, I never looked at the gross amount, only the net that was going into my bank account. I never really put all that much thought or emotion into the part of the check that detailed how much was going to the government. Once I started getting deposits from MFC and seeing how much of a difference there really is after you set aside taxes did I realize how heartbreaking it was, lol.

For even the members who do see it as a "real" job, a lot of them aren't aware that we are employed as independent contractors. The assumption that MFC already takes out our taxes and that it's included in the 50% of the money that we don't see is pretty common.

Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure I had to pay a pretty decent sized fee just because I was self employed, on top of the taxes that they would normally take out.

I believe it has to do with your age and whether or not you are a dependent. I don't know exactly how it works, but I had to pay the self-employed fine too, until the age of 24 I believe. I think this year will be the first year I won't have to. It's pretty jacked.

 

[NoelleBright]

I think some of you guys would be surprised how many casual camsite viewers believe that camming isn't a real job, thus, the camgirl pockets every nickel. I've gotten the question numerous times "do you have to pay taxes on this?" And my reply is something along the lines of "Of course, silly, anyone with a job has to pay taxes on their income."

I know the majority of members here at ACF are much more educated about the whole camming process than a huge portion of MFC's member base, so to you guys it seems common sense and common knowledge.

I know that we all pay taxes, but the difference is that when you get your paycheck, you look at the amount you're actually receiving. You don't add in your taxes and say you earned $1600, when you're really only putting $1200 in your bank account.

This part is what I mainly thanked for. When I used to get a payroll paycheck, I never looked at the gross amount, only the net that was going into my bank account. I never really put all that much thought or emotion into the part of the check that detailed how much was going to the government. Once I started getting deposits from MFC and seeing how much of a difference there really is after you set aside taxes did I realize how heartbreaking it was, lol.

For even the members who do see it as a "real" job, a lot of them aren't aware that we are employed as independent contractors. The assumption that MFC already takes out our taxes and that it's included in the 50% of the money that we don't see is pretty common.

Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure I had to pay a pretty decent sized fee just because I was self employed, on top of the taxes that they would normally take out.

I believe it has to do with your age and whether or not you are a dependent. I don't know exactly how it works, but I had to pay the self-employed fine too, until the age of 24 I believe. I think this year will be the first year I won't have to. It's pretty jacked.

I'm not sure either, but I know I was pissed as it was pretty hefty.
I've also been independent since I was 18. :confusion-shrug:
(It wasn't the fine that girls get hit with if they don't pay quarterly, just to clarify)

It was more like "oh, you're self employed? let us take this large chunk of money for no discernable reason." and then they proceeded to tax me like everyone else on top of it.

 

[VeronicaChaos]

I think some of you guys would be surprised how many casual camsite viewers believe that camming isn't a real job, thus, the camgirl pockets every nickel. I've gotten the question numerous times "do you have to pay taxes on this?" And my reply is something along the lines of "Of course, silly, anyone with a job has to pay taxes on their income."

I know the majority of members here at ACF are much more educated about the whole camming process than a huge portion of MFC's member base, so to you guys it seems common sense and common knowledge.

I know that we all pay taxes, but the difference is that when you get your paycheck, you look at the amount you're actually receiving. You don't add in your taxes and say you earned $1600, when you're really only putting $1200 in your bank account.

This part is what I mainly thanked for. When I used to get a payroll paycheck, I never looked at the gross amount, only the net that was going into my bank account. I never really put all that much thought or emotion into the part of the check that detailed how much was going to the government. Once I started getting deposits from MFC and seeing how much of a difference there really is after you set aside taxes did I realize how heartbreaking it was, lol.

For even the members who do see it as a "real" job, a lot of them aren't aware that we are employed as independent contractors. The assumption that MFC already takes out our taxes and that it's included in the 50% of the money that we don't see is pretty common.

Also, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure I had to pay a pretty decent sized fee just because I was self employed, on top of the taxes that they would normally take out.

I believe it has to do with your age and whether or not you are a dependent. I don't know exactly how it works, but I had to pay the self-employed fine too, until the age of 24 I believe. I think this year will be the first year I won't have to. It's pretty jacked.

I'm not sure either, but I know I pissed as it was pretty hefty.
I've also been independent since I was 18. :confusion-shrug:
(It wasn't the fine that girls get hit with if they don't pay quarterly, just to clarify)

It was more like "oh, you're self employed? let us take this large chunk of money for no discernable reason." and then they proceeded to tax me like everyone else on top of it.

My boyfriend at the time did his taxes with me, and he's also self-employed but several years older and didn't have to pay the fine . But he remembered having to when he was my age. Hopefully someone else with more knowledge than me can butt in?