Members dropping favorites

[DaddyDominant]

so recently I went through MFC and cleaned out my favorite cam models. I removed:

1) Models that hadn't logged in more than 6 months
2) Models that I stopped going into their rooms
3) Models that were 'too popular'.
4) Models that hit me up for tokens as soon as they saw me (seemingly asking for a hand out not trying to sell me a vid or something).


So, I'm curious any MFC members (or members of any site really) why do you remove models from your favorites list? I don't want to know the 'who' just the 'why'.

 

[Evvie]

Why do you stop following models who are successful?

 

[Shaun__]

Friends stay on my friend list, and other people get dropped or added according to my mood.

 

[curvyredhead]

Why do you stop following models who are successful?

word?

 

[SoTxBob]

I seldom clean mine... The few exceptions are when a girl has told me she is quitting and even then, I will leave it for awhile. Also tho, I dont add randomly. Generally speaking some decent conversation that doesn't involve the words "tip, BB, tits or cum" :lol: is a precursor to a friend add.

 

[DaddyDominant]

Why do you stop following models who are successful?

I'm trying to figure that out as well...maybe I like to root for the scrappy but plucky challenger?

Part of it is because if they're REALLY successful it means a few things:

1) They don't really need my support
2) Chances are I'm not a huge fan of the way they run their rooms (I know that's vague...but I have a few models in mind when I say that).
3) When there's a LOT of users in a model's room its hard to form any kind of 'connection'.

Another user stated that friends remain on his favorite's list...I guess that's a good way to put it.

 

[Evvie]

Why do you stop following models who are successful?

I'm trying to figure that out as well...maybe I like to root for the scrappy but plucky challenger?

Part of it is because if they're REALLY successful it means a few things:

1) They don't really need my support
2) Chances are I'm not a huge fan of the way they run their rooms (I know that's vague...but I have a few models in mind when I say that).
3) When there's a LOT of users in a model's room its hard to form any kind of 'connection'.

Another user stated that friends remain on his favorite's list...I guess that's a good way to put it.

I don't want to try and change your mind - it's not like people's friendslist habits are something worth meddling in.

However, I would encourage you not to assume that because a model has a high camscore that she doesn't need your support.

If I might use ScarletRaven (I feel I misspelled her name) as an example. Her camscore was very high and she did a ton of shows, and made good money - but because she had to support four children as a single mother, she still lived paycheck to paycheck.

Many models live in areas where the cost of living is extremely high. And we really have no idea who they are supporting, what bills they might be swamped with, or what issues they may be going through.

A model who is "successful" has a lot of nice guys supporting her, but that does not mean she is swimming in extra cash and spending all of that money on designer purses and shoes. Many successful models ARE scrappy-but-plucky challengers who work extremely hard every day, and are finally enjoying a little financial security. Of course, we are all free to choose whom we spend money on, but I feel that sometimes people associate "MFC success" with, "that chick is so rich, she doesn't need support anymore".

 

[Anonymous]

Part of it is because if they're REALLY successful it means a few things:

1) They don't really need my support

I'm sorry that you feel that way. I think it'd suck to drop a favorite model just because she's finally gained the popularity/camscore that she's worked hard for. I would think you'd be happy for her, and realize that you guys who contributed to her chat with good conversation and tokens are the reason she's where she is now. Just because her room count increases doesn't mean she's forgotten about how supportive you've been.

 

[coolestusername]

However, I would encourage you not to assume that because a model has a high camscore that she doesn't need your support.

Evvie, as usual, I can not thank you enough for saying that. I had TWO friends recently stop coming into my room. They emailed me to tell me why, which was upsetting in itself. I was too popular, and am probably "doing fine" without them. Yikes.
Sure, my camscore skyrocketed in a short period of time. Mainly because of a only a couple high tipping members. I'd hate to think I'm losing friends and supporters because my tokens per hour went up for a week.

My regular members have been dropping like flies over the past few months, only 2 of which decided to tell me why. I sort of wish I didn't know :?

 

[mynameisbob84]

I can understand somebody having a preference for rooms with a smaller room count - more of the model's attention, easier to keep up with chat, easy to feel like your tips "mean more", etc. And I guess, for some members - though I'm not suggesting this is the case for anyone in this thread - it's easier to control a model who might be dependent on that member's tips. And I guess for some folk, that's appealing.

I do get the impression though, that some members adopt the mindset of "it's my job to support a model, and once they no longer need my support, my job is done and I can move onto another model who needs my support more". I think they lose sight of the fact that MFC is ultimately about having fun.
It's a place where you can hang out with any number of lovely ladies, throw a few tokens their way for whatever entertainment they may be providing you with, and then go about your day. Cam girls aren't charity cases. MFC shouldn't be about searching for the models that will most benefit from your money. It should be about searching for the girls you can have the most fun with, ya know? Whether or not they need your tokens shouldn't really be a consideration. :twocents-02cents:

 

[NicoleRiley]

However, I would encourage you not to assume that because a model has a high camscore that she doesn't need your support.

Evvie, as usual, I can not thank you enough for saying that. I had TWO friends recently stop coming into my room. They emailed me to tell me why, which was upsetting in itself. I was too popular, and am probably "doing fine" without them. Yikes.
Sure, my camscore skyrocketed in a short period of time. Mainly because of a only a couple high tipping members. I'd hate to think I'm losing friends and supporters because my tokens per hour went up for a week.

My regular members have been dropping like flies over the past few months, only 2 of which decided to tell me why. I sort of wish I didn't know :?

Yeah I've sadly heard that before. I had a 10k camscore by my second or third day of being on mfc and it stayed that way for about 5 months, but then my regulars kept dropping and sometimes they stop by to say hi. A few of them flat out told me it's because I "was making too much money." The funny thing is that for the first month on mfc I was working 3 jobs (day job, evening job, and camming at night) and I was burning myself trying to save up money to pay off my debt. I had to move out of the place I share with my best friend so I could cam more. It's so frustrating that this is the mentality. My camscore is now fluctuating between 5k-6k, and I don't have many non-freeloader regulars. I was struggling at 10k.. guess how I'm doing now.... :violin:

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Yep, here's another 'high camscore' girl who is only just now getting on her feet.

Last year, I spent the entire year supporting my exhusband, and paying for his school, as well as my three dogs, my debts and dukes debts and general living expenses.

I'm not saying I'm not doing well now, I am. But a huge percentage of my tips are made up with the guys who tip a few tokens a week. And I appreciate them and hope they won't leave just because I'm doing well now.... That makes me really sad when that happens.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Yep, here's another 'high camscore' girl who is only just now getting on her feet.

Last year, I spent the entire year supporting my exhusband, and paying for his school, as well as my three dogs, my debts and dukes debts and general living expenses.

I'm not saying I'm not doing well now, I am. But a huge percentage of my tips are made up with the guys who tip a few tokens a week. And I appreciate them and hope they won't leave just because I'm doing well now.... That makes me really sad when that happens.

 

[Jupiter551]

3) When there's a LOT of users in a model's room its hard to form any kind of 'connection'.

That's just not true, obviously it depends on the girl but it also depends on YOU. Be supportive, have fun, make her work interesting and tip when you can to show you appreciate her. I can't afford to be a big tipper by any means but still maintain a mfc-friendship with a number of top 20 models.
As for 'not needing your support', is that why you visited them in the first place? Because you wanted them to 'need' you? Are you one of those guys constantly demanding attention?

I suspect the problem lies with you, not the girls. I visit girls because I enjoy their company, and they interact with me probably because they enjoy mine to a degree, because I don't take myself too seriously and I don't throw a hissy-fit if they spread their attention around their audience.

 

[Jessi]

I just wanted to pop in and say, though my camscore may be "high" and I do have high room counts

1) The majority of those people do not talk or tip. Anyone acting like a bloob gets shut down pretty quickly.

2) Up until a couple months ago I was living paycheck to paycheck and having a rough time making ends meet. We have a high cost of living here and camscore doesnt *really* explain how much a model makes, just how quickly she makes it.

3) Maybe try viewing MFC as entertainment rather than a charity. If theres a girl putting on a good show or working hard to be entertaining and around to do so, I will send a few tokens her way to show appreciation for that. Even if she's filthy stinkin' rich (which few if any are!) I still think she should get SOMETHING if I enjoyed her show.

4) I still have time to chat with and make a connection with my regulars. But friendship takes effort on the part of BOTH parties. The members I consider friends on MFC make effort to talk to me, ask about how my life is and send some tips my way now and then because they appreciate my time.

I'm not saying this to make you feel guilty or anything, I just hope maybe you'll see high camscore girls a little differently and give them a chance.

 

[16_bit]

Nothing personally against the OP, just another straw in the pile, but have i missed something on camsites recently? There's been a few threads about not tipping/hanging out with models because of what other people are doing. What happened to tipping/hanging out with a model because you liked her? That's how i've always done things and i wouldn't stop when a model got more or less popular.

 

[Zoomer]

As a user, and given the "we models" line with regards to circumstances and living etc - I'd just point out a few things.

1) Members also have responsibilities and are likely living pay cheque (UK spelling ) to pay cheque.
2) They may have families, they may live in expensive areas, they may have ex-wives, husbands, children, dogs, chickens, goats and wallabies to support.
3) Members may overspend as they like someone, and reign back their spending significantly once they realise this. Haven't we all done this?**
4) People do change as they become successful. Ya'll will have favourites in your rooms. If a member feels they get less attention (or, as you are more successful, less bang for their buck - as your prices are higher), they may choose to move on as they're not getting the same experience.
It is their decision and choice and reasons for doing so. I mean, if you're "friends" - are they your facebook friends? Or are they online customers where the term friend comes as they shower you with cash and talk to you - with you in return chatting to them due to their money? I ask as previously models say they only let regular tippers pm them, and if you want a response via pm you best be a tipping else its not worth their while. Treat them like customers, get treated like a product

I'm only posting as this is very model centric in responses. I'm hard up, I've got bills etc. Haven't we all? It may be upsetting to lose "friends/customers" (delete as appropriate) who used to tip lots, or talk lots, but in reality you all treat this like a business. So why be surprised when friend/customer does the same?

** In all honesty, this is one of two reasons why I really think you'll find guys stop tipping. The other is that, combined with this point, they may find someone else they enjoy more. Simple, harsh, but true. There is only a limited amount of convo/money to go around. Perhaps they're choosing to spend it with others who they enjoy more (shock horror). The way of saying "you're successful" is a sort of back-handed compliment. Perhaps they're not saying "I enjoy spending my cash and conversation on another model". Again, harsh to say it - but possibly true. Someone else has already pointed out that really they're paying for your attention. As you get more successful you are probably able to give less attention - so they move on. Kinda like we all do with various service industries

 

[TacoBelle]

Whether or not they need your tokens shouldn't really be a consideration.

I agree with pretty much everyone else regarding the need for tokies vs the validation of your tips. For example, my favorite models range from top 20 to under 1000 camscore. Every so often, I will offer to do a 1-token yellow wall for a few of my favorites. So, I announce what model we'll be visiting (with input from my room, of course), then we visit. I always tell them to only tip if they want to. Some do, some don't. But we yellow wall the shit out of these girls, and we all have a bit of fun. Now, the point to this story: A few nights ago, I chose to tip wall one of my faves. Who happens to be in the top-20. As always, a good number of my regs helped with the wall because they wanted to. Later, the ones who didn't tip asked why I would choose "that girl" because she obviously doesn't need the money. I agree. She doesn't need the 200 or so tokies we cumulatively threw at her. It was just a blip on her token radar. But she had fun, and we (my room) had fun.

I explained it like this: would you specifically NOT watch a movie that EVERYONE else was watching JUST BECAUSE it's mainstream even if everyone tells you it's fucking awesome?
Would you specifically NOT go to a store JUST BECAUSE it's not trendy enough even though the prices are amazing?
Would you NOT buy your Grandmother a Christmas present JUST BECAUSE she's got 12 other grandkids?

If your answer is yes to those, then by all means, keep your "I knew her before she was cool" mindset. And yes, the word I was looking for WAS hipster.

 

[TacoBelle]

Back on topic, though... why do I stop visiting models? Mine's simple. If they start talking more often ONLY about tokies and/or their Miss MFC placement, I generally leave. I don't mind reminding us every once in a while, but constantly borderlines begging. Also, if a fave of mine only pays attention to you if you tip, it's not worth my time. Like Zoomer said, I don't want to feel like a customer.

 

[TashaDutch]

i always thought visiting girls on a pornsite is about sex first... mfc then offers conversation and a 'community' feeling..
tipping girls because they 'need' it... is kinda sweet... but weird..
and if you really feel that way... come teep me bb... i need lotsa moneyz... :lol: :lol:

 

[HarmlessSquirrel]

I mostly remove a model from my friends list for a simple reason: I don't plan to return to her room. It's not a big deal. I never announce that I'm removing someone, and presumably they neither know nor care when I do. I don't think I've removed a model yet that I considered a friend. If we're not particularly friends and I wasn't going to come back and tip anyway, what difference does it make?

The reason I'm not coming back varies -- in some cases, I liked the model fine but wasn't really into what she was into or we just didn't click personality-wise. In some cases, maybe it felt like it was too much about tokens, and even though I do tip, I don't like to feel like I'm constantly being given a sales pitch. A few times I decided I didn't really like the model very much after all.

Anyway, since for me it's mostly just a mechanism for keeping track of rooms I may want to visit, it's nothing dramatic.

 

[bob]

my friend's list is made up of my friends, and lesser known models i stumble upon wandering around as a basic in my current financial desert....that part of the list is in constant flux: you can learn a lot about a person just watching and reading....some stay because they're just too physically attractive/sensual/sexy to dismiss without a little tipping first....most, tho, i eventually lose interest in.

the very few popular models i visit aren't on it simply because -when they're on- they're avatar is staring out at me when i sign in anyway.....i don't consider them friends....and they're kinda hard to miss :lol:

 

[dustinxxxizzle]

I only remove models from my friend's list if they haven't been on for a long time and I don't think they're coming back. It usually takes a while for me to add somebody to my friend's list, so if you get on there, chances are you're there to stay.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

As a user, and given the "we models" line with regards to circumstances and living etc - I'd just point out a few things.

1) Members also have responsibilities and are likely living pay cheque (UK spelling ) to pay cheque.
2) They may have families, they may live in expensive areas, they may have ex-wives, husbands, children, dogs, chickens, goats and wallabies to support.
3) Members may overspend as they like someone, and reign back their spending significantly once they realise this. Haven't we all done this?**
4) People do change as they become successful. Ya'll will have favourites in your rooms. If a member feels they get less attention (or, as you are more successful, less bang for their buck - as your prices are higher), they may choose to move on as they're not getting the same experience.
It is their decision and choice and reasons for doing so. I mean, if you're "friends" - are they your facebook friends? Or are they online customers where the term friend comes as they shower you with cash and talk to you - with you in return chatting to them due to their money? I ask as previously models say they only let regular tippers pm them, and if you want a response via pm you best be a tipping else its not worth their while. Treat them like customers, get treated like a product

I'm only posting as this is very model centric in responses. I'm hard up, I've got bills etc. Haven't we all? It may be upsetting to lose "friends/customers" (delete as appropriate) who used to tip lots, or talk lots, but in reality you all treat this like a business. So why be surprised when friend/customer does the same?

** In all honesty, this is one of two reasons why I really think you'll find guys stop tipping. The other is that, combined with this point, they may find someone else they enjoy more. Simple, harsh, but true. There is only a limited amount of convo/money to go around. Perhaps they're choosing to spend it with others who they enjoy more (shock horror). The way of saying "you're successful" is a sort of back-handed compliment. Perhaps they're not saying "I enjoy spending my cash and conversation on another model". Again, harsh to say it - but possibly true. Someone else has already pointed out that really they're paying for your attention. As you get more successful you are probably able to give less attention - so they move on. Kinda like we all do with various service industries

While I understand your points, I think it's simply important to know that most more successful models Do value small tippers, and that we do "need" your tokens.

When I look at my statistics for the month, "small time tippers" are my bread and butter, and 'big time tippers" are the jam on top. My post was simply to point out the 'need' is still there, and that you never know a model's exact financial situation.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Ok regardless of your reasons for not visiting models because they're become "too popular", why the fuck are you telling us this?
It is NOT helpful!

Wtf, are we all meant to earn less and do badly for the sake of your ego? Sure, go to girls who do worse who will be earning less and have less people around, but your comments about it aren't constructive, if a girls camscore gets higher and her paycheques go up then great for her! The majority of us are in fact in it for the money, so yeah, if I had a choice I'd pick earning more over earning less and hanging around with members who would ditch me as soon as I get a bit more attention.

The rest, well, models who haven't been online in 6 months? yeah, nice one, they've probably stopped camming for good, so kind of makes sense to delete them.
Models who's rooms you stopped going into... well again, you've gone off them, you're not visiting them, so surely that was for another reason, I don't think that model really cares you've deleted her off your friends list 6 months after you last tipped 10 tokens.
And oh my goddd!!!! A model talks to you?! Man, she must be after tokens! The bitch! Seriously? I pm loads of people, often just for chat/to see how they are, but I will also generally test the water to see if they are interested in any videos etc. Jeeze, you're on mfcs, it's like being in a shop, i'm not going to have a hissy fit if I go into a shop and someone offers me assistance.

Zoomer you have a very good point about members also having bills to pay etc. The big difference is, you're choosing to be on mfc for leisure purposes. If you don't want to spend money on something, you do not have to do it. If I have no money to go out for a meal with, I won't go out for a meal. If I choose to go out for that meal I can hardly bitch about how the restaurant ripped me off/isn't giving me a discount/how I have bills to pay etc. Cam girls on the other hand are on mfc because they need to earn to pay those bills. As gets pointed out all the time on here, it is our job. If I did choose to go to a restaurant I would still tip the appropriate amount even if I were poor. The waiter/waitress shouldn't have to be put out of income after providing a service just because I have bills to pay, so do they, I'd chosen to be there.
I don't think you'd be very impressed if you were told by your work that you won't get to pay your bills because after hiring you they can't afford to pay you for the work you've done.

 

[CallMeWilliam]

Anyway, since for me it's mostly just a mechanism for keeping track of rooms I may want to visit, it's nothing dramatic.

^^^ this more than anything.

 

[Always_Tim]

3) Members may overspend as they like someone, and reign back their spending significantly once they realise this. Haven't we all done this?**

Oh yes. Certainly. All too easy to become a bit overenthusiastic when you first run across someone amazing.

It is their decision and choice and reasons for doing so. I mean, if you're "friends" - are they your facebook friends? Or are they online customers where the term friend comes as they shower you with cash and talk to you - with you in return chatting to them due to their money? I ask as previously models say they only let regular tippers pm them, and if you want a response via pm you best be a tipping else its not worth their while. Treat them like customers, get treated like a product

Both models and members can run into problems when one side sees a friendship where the other sees a business transaction. I've certainly see this happen in both directions on MFC. Everyone needs to remember that both models and members are real people (ok, maybe not guests) and can be hurt when someone they've become emotionally attached to suddenly disappears or changes behavior. And no matter how hard you try to maintain a professional relationship, it can be very easy to find yourself getting a lot closer to someone than you'd intended.

** In all honesty, this is one of two reasons why I really think you'll find guys stop tipping. The other is that, combined with this point, they may find someone else they enjoy more. Simple, harsh, but true. There is only a limited amount of convo/money to go around. Perhaps they're choosing to spend it with others who they enjoy more (shock horror). The way of saying "you're successful" is a sort of back-handed compliment. Perhaps they're not saying "I enjoy spending my cash and conversation on another model". Again, harsh to say it - but possibly true. Someone else has already pointed out that really they're paying for your attention. As you get more successful you are probably able to give less attention - so they move on. Kinda like we all do with various service industries

Yep. It's going to happen, and everyone needs to be prepared for it. New models join the site all the time, people's schedules change, tastes change, and sometimes members will want something different out of the site. (Members may shift preferences between private/group/public shows, or may lose interest in shows and look more for conversation, or vice versa.) And models change what they want to do on MFC, too.

 

[bob]

Ok regardless of your reasons for not visiting models because they're become "too popular", why the fuck are you telling us this?
It is NOT helpful!

not sure who this is directed too.....maybe everybody who mentioned "popular"
fwiw, i wasn't thinking at all about "being helpful" since the OP appeared to be guy.

 

[Nordling]

:lol: I only remove names from the Friends List if I no longer recognize who they are or why I put them there in the first place. Unless they fall into that category, I don't remove them if they haven't logged on for six months or more. Sometimes, I just like to be reminded of pleasant experiences from the past, and hope they're doing well in whatever they're now doing.

 

[FrenchKitty]

Zoomer you have a very good point about members also having bills to pay etc. The big difference is, you're choosing to be on mfc for leisure purposes. If you don't want to spend money on something, you do not have to do it. If I have no money to go out for a meal with, I won't go out for a meal. If I choose to go out for that meal I can hardly bitch about how the restaurant ripped me off/isn't giving me a discount/how I have bills to pay etc. Cam girls on the other hand are on mfc because they need to earn to pay those bills. As gets pointed out all the time on here, it is our job. If I did choose to go to a restaurant I would still tip the appropriate amount even if I were poor. The waiter/waitress shouldn't have to be put out of income after providing a service just because I have bills to pay, so do they, I'd chosen to be there.
I don't think you'd be very impressed if you were told by your work that you won't get to pay your bills because after hiring you they can't afford to pay you for the work you've done.

can this be stickied somewhere?
or just plain: "camming is a JOB" , in red, somewhere?