Man confesses to killing escort found not guilty

[JerryBoBerry]

If the dead woman was a Girl Scout who had just ripped the guy off for $150 worth of cookies and everything else was the same do you think he would have still been found not guilty?




I think THAT is what I have an issue with the most.
:thumbleft:

The first thing that came to mind reading that situation is 'would it have made the titillating headline like it did so anyone would have heard about it?'

 

[Red7227]

If the dead woman was a Girl Scout who had just ripped the guy off for $150 worth of cookies and everything else was the same do you think he would have still been found not guilty?




I think THAT is what I have an issue with the most.
:thumbleft:

So the USA is full of racists and bigots, what else is new. Do you know that would have had any bearing, or are you showing your own bigotry towards Texas? :thumbleft:

 

[Brad]

If the dead woman was a Girl Scout who had just ripped the guy off for $150 worth of cookies and everything else was the same do you think he would have still been found not guilty?




I think THAT is what I have an issue with the most.
:thumbleft:

So the USA is full of racists and bigots, what else is new. Do you know that would have had any bearing, or are you showing your own bigotry towards Texas? :thumbleft:

Not at all. My first post in this thread was something about Texas being better then this (meaning what I view as injustice)
:thumbleft:

IF it would have had a bearing then hell yes we have a problem. I know all about the racists and bigots. Many of them don't like me at all either. I even left a place of employment because of that. But racism and bigotry should never have a bearing on justice. And no I am not naive and yes I have seen 48 years worth of injustice but I still get just as outraged by it. The day that doesn't happen will be the day I get worried about myself.

 

[Red7227]

This has appeared to be remarkably free from racist overtones. I think because the victim was so young and pretty, and died so tragically, that is this has overridden her ethicity.

 

[Brad]

This has appeared to be remarkably free from racist overtones. I think because the victim was so young and pretty, and died so tragically, that is this has overridden her ethicity.

Now that's ironic because I have been referring to her occupation. Her ethnicity had never entered my mind.

 

[Red7227]

This has appeared to be remarkably free from racist overtones. I think because the victim was so young and pretty, and died so tragically, that is this has overridden her ethicity.

Now that's ironic because I have been referring to her occupation. Her ethnicity had never entered my mind.

Haha, prostitution is legal here so it never ocurred to me there would be a stigma from that

 

[Just Me]

This has appeared to be remarkably free from racist overtones. I think because the victim was so young and pretty, and died so tragically, that is this has overridden her ethicity.

Now that's ironic because I have been referring to her occupation. Her ethnicity had never entered my mind.

Haha, prostitution is legal here so it never ocurred to me there would be a stigma from that

Just because it is legal where you are doesn't mean there is not a stigma still attached to it. I can't think of a single country that sex workers, legal or not, are not stigmatized by their chosen profession.

 

[Red7227]

This has appeared to be remarkably free from racist overtones. I think because the victim was so young and pretty, and died so tragically, that is this has overridden her ethicity.

Now that's ironic because I have been referring to her occupation. Her ethnicity had never entered my mind.

Haha, prostitution is legal here so it never ocurred to me there would be a stigma from that

Just because it is legal where you are doesn't mean there is not a stigma still attached to it. I can't think of a single country that sex workers, legal or not, are not stigmatized by their chosen profession.

Well no one is going to say she deserved to die because she was a prostitute, or that she was less deserving of justice. We have moved on as a country. Anybody under fifty will see her as a person with a difficult job that she was probably driven to by circumstance, and not judge her. The over 70s and more recent immigrants from places like India and Africa might hold a different view, but they are a minority.

 

[Anonymous]

Well no one is going to say she deserved to die because she was a prostitute, or that she was less deserving of justice. We have moved on as a country. Anybody under fifty will see her as a person with a difficult job that she was probably driven to by circumstance, and not judge her. The over 70s and more recent immigrants from places like India and Africa might hold a different view, but they are a minority.

There are a lot of judgemental people out there who look down on sex workers, and make comments about how sex workers don't have any self-respect, and etc. I bet there are even people out there who would say something like "Well, she should've followed in God's footsteps instead of doing the Devil's work." I wish I could agree with you about people not judging her, but unfortunately there are a lot of self-righteous people out there who would use a tragedy like this to launch into their preachy 'WWJD?' mode.

 

[Red7227]

Well no one is going to say she deserved to die because she was a prostitute, or that she was less deserving of justice. We have moved on as a country. Anybody under fifty will see her as a person with a difficult job that she was probably driven to by circumstance, and not judge her. The over 70s and more recent immigrants from places like India and Africa might hold a different view, but they are a minority.

There are a lot of judgemental people out there who look down on sex workers, and make comments about how sex workers don't have any self-respect, and etc. I bet there are even people out there who would say something like "Well, she should've followed in God's footsteps instead of doing the Devil's work." I wish I could agree with you about people not judging her, but unfortunately there are a lot of self-righteous people out there who would use a tragedy like this to launch into their preachy 'WWJD?' mode.

Australia darlin, I don't think you guys realise how far the rest of the world has moved on. We have an overtly atheist prime minister and the opposition leader is mistrusted and unpopular because he is deeply religious. Nobody give a fuck any more about sex workers and anybody who is deeply religious is treated as slightly deranged.

 

[Bocefish]

anybody who is deeply religious is treated as slightly deranged.

Nah, that's not bigotry at all. :whistle:

So the USA is full of racists and bigots, what else is new.

As if Australia isn't full of them too.

There's even an island called "Bigot's Island" in Australia IIRC. :lol:

People in glass houses and all that...

 

[Anonymous]

Australia darlin, I don't think you guys realise how far the rest of the world has moved on. We have an overtly atheist prime minister and the opposition leader is mistrusted and unpopular because he is deeply religious. Nobody give a fuck any more about sex workers and anybody who is deeply religious is treated as slightly deranged.

Ah, ok. I didn't know you were talking about Australia. Sorry, darlin'...LOL...

 

[Nordling]

anybody who is deeply religious is treated as slightly deranged.

Nah, that's not bigotry at all. :whistle:

So the USA is full of racists and bigots, what else is new.

As if Australia isn't full of them too.

There's even an island called "Bigot's Island" in Australia IIRC. :lol:

People in glass houses and all that...

Google is your friend.

Twenty years after being dubbed "Bigots' Island", Tasmania is shaking off its reputation as a bastion of conservatism so successfully that it now seems more like Progressive Central. It looks set to be the first place in Australia to legalise same-sex marriage, and is considering a whole range of reforms that will make it one of the most liberal places on Earth.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...a-remarkable-cultural-conversion-8650749.html

I don't think Red was saying it has always been thus. And obviously, he doesn't believe that every soul in Australia is a progressive atheist--since the opposition leader obviously isn't. But it does appear that Australia has moved forward a long ways, especially when most people think of Australia as a remote place filled with strange people who talk funny.

 

[Bocefish]

I have nothing against Australia, in fact, I think it's an awesome place. It just seems that every time Red refers to the USA, it's usually in some sort of condescending manner while saying how much better Australia is. Being proud of your country is great, provided it's not while putting others down in such general ways. My point was that racism and bigotry is everywhere and hardly restricted by national boundaries. That is all.

 

[Just Me]

Well no one is going to say she deserved to die because she was a prostitute, or that she was less deserving of justice. We have moved on as a country. Anybody under fifty will see her as a person with a difficult job that she was probably driven to by circumstance, and not judge her. The over 70s and more recent immigrants from places like India and Africa might hold a different view, but they are a minority.

There are a lot of judgemental people out there who look down on sex workers, and make comments about how sex workers don't have any self-respect, and etc. I bet there are even people out there who would say something like "Well, she should've followed in God's footsteps instead of doing the Devil's work." I wish I could agree with you about people not judging her, but unfortunately there are a lot of self-righteous people out there who would use a tragedy like this to launch into their preachy 'WWJD?' mode.

Australia darlin, I don't think you guys realise how far the rest of the world has moved on. We have an overtly atheist prime minister and the opposition leader is mistrusted and unpopular because he is deeply religious. Nobody give a fuck any more about sex workers and anybody who is deeply religious is treated as slightly deranged.

You will have to forgive me if I think your eyes are closed to the stigma, even in your own enlightened country. When something like this is happening:

The video was released after news broke of an Internet sex ring inside Australia's military, reporting that male army officers and employees were circulating videos and photos of naked female colleagues, as well as "derogatory comments about their conquests.

In this situation they are stigmatizing women only because they allowed themselves to be photographed, filmed and have sex. You will have to excuse my skepticism that a sex worker would not be stigmatized in Australia.

 

[Red7227]

Well no one is going to say she deserved to die because she was a prostitute, or that she was less deserving of justice. We have moved on as a country. Anybody under fifty will see her as a person with a difficult job that she was probably driven to by circumstance, and not judge her. The over 70s and more recent immigrants from places like India and Africa might hold a different view, but they are a minority.

There are a lot of judgemental people out there who look down on sex workers, and make comments about how sex workers don't have any self-respect, and etc. I bet there are even people out there who would say something like "Well, she should've followed in God's footsteps instead of doing the Devil's work." I wish I could agree with you about people not judging her, but unfortunately there are a lot of self-righteous people out there who would use a tragedy like this to launch into their preachy 'WWJD?' mode.

Australia darlin, I don't think you guys realise how far the rest of the world has moved on. We have an overtly atheist prime minister and the opposition leader is mistrusted and unpopular because he is deeply religious. Nobody give a fuck any more about sex workers and anybody who is deeply religious is treated as slightly deranged.

You will have to forgive me if I think your eyes are closed to the stigma, even in your own enlightened country. When something like this is happening:

The video was released after news broke of an Internet sex ring inside Australia's military, reporting that male army officers and employees were circulating videos and photos of naked female colleagues, as well as "derogatory comments about their conquests.

In this situation they are stigmatizing women only because they allowed themselves to be photographed, filmed and have sex. You will have to excuse my skepticism that a sex worker would not be stigmatized in Australia.

No one gets to murder one without going to jail at least.