Logged into my member/ creeper account, and just.....wow

[CoffeeKnight]

omg your name is pizza slut. I think I'm in love

Agreed. 10/10 best name ever.

 

[starj50]

Top 3 on the front page. I can see one of many reasons she's there! Very, very educational and helpful to see how it feels to spend hard earned money on girls, especially asking for nothing in return .

I was in the room of current #4 on Miss MFC.... someone kept tipping her 1 token and another member told him something along the lines of "Stop tipping your lame ass 1 tokens; that isn't even enough to to pay for her bus fare". She stopped the music to tell them "NO, you are wrong because I would rather receive 1 token than 0 and have a room of freeloaders. At the end of the month it's all cumulative and every tip counts"

But yea I have tipped other models when asking questions; most of the time I am being nosy and asking them what camera they are using if their feed looks amazing but I'll tip them for it.

One actually physically showed me which cam she was using which was nice so I tipped extra.

 

[MiaFoxUK]

Bahahahaa thank you my loves, I've been a sensible serious but sexy cam girl for ages and then one day I just thought fuck it. On mfc my room always ends up talking about food so....

 

[Slowburst]

When you are using your member account go to personal options and set your privacy options to avoid unwanted PM's. I set my account to accept PM's from Friends, Premium members, and bookmarked models. It has made the chat experience much easier.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

The only time I've ever been hounded by PM's is when I would visit different rooms, particularly Eastern European models in studios. One studio in particular was bad in that they would put names of everyone who tipped into all models friends lists. So, I'd log in, and immediately get about 10 different PM's at once. Some, from models I didn't mind visiting. But, most I just ignored. Eventually, got tired of it all and set privacy to bookmarked models, and friends. There's a couple of premium members I chat with in a top model's room, so I've added them to friends list since we do talk via PM.

As to models not liking small tips, I can't say I've encountered that in very low ranked as well as top model rooms. I'm sure it happens. But, just never seen it myself. Although, I did recently get bitched out from a model friend recently for visiting another model that I'm a regular in as well. So... Yeah, there's that aspect.

Lately, I've been really busy, so haven't been able to be online anywhere near as much as I used to. So, I will get PM's from a couple of different models asking me where I've been and hoping things are alright. One even asked me if I was mad at her, or if she did something wrong, since I hadn't been online to visit her.

 

[Starman]

The only time I've ever been hounded by PM's is when I would visit different rooms, particularly Eastern European models in studios. One studio in particular was bad in that they would put names of everyone who tipped into all models friends lists. So, I'd log in, and immediately get about 10 different PM's at once. .

Oh, I sorta wish that would happen for me. Sometimes when I visit a studio model, I wish I knew who was in the next cubicle screaming in ecstasy.

Also would like to know what happened to a couple of studio models who abruptly stopped modeling. If I knew someone else in the same studio, I could ask them.

 

[dark_mermaid]

As a former Easter European studio girl I can give you the answer. Contract ran out, simple as that (or she just ran away from the studio, happens too). Other girls wouldn't tell you anything. Even if they wanted to, we didn't know the broadcaster names of other girls in the studio, unless we specificially asked in a break.

 

[Spacecadet_]

Wow. With how many pointless "hey bb" PMs I get I couldnt fathom actually soliciting members with PMs like that. I didnt even know models did that! I usually charge a small amount for PM, because if someone doesnt have 10 tk to spend to message me they likely wont be buying anything anyways.
And I always say thank you to any tip. I appreciate it when people hand me money, damnit!. I can only imagine how it must feel when its ignored/not appreciated

 

[Deleted member 37064]

There was one Russian studio that was supposedly closed down by the police around late summer 2017. I think it's been in trouble since then, as most models I know have quit or gone elsewhere. This studio, I know was on MFC, and I'm sure ohter sites as well.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

Wow. With how many pointless "hey bb" PMs I get I couldnt fathom actually soliciting members with PMs like that. I didnt even know models did that! I usually charge a small amount for PM, because if someone doesnt have 10 tk to spend to message me they likely wont be buying anything anyways.
And I always say thank you to any tip. I appreciate it when people hand me money, damnit!. I can only imagine how it must feel when its ignored/not appreciated

Oh yeah, you get on a tipping list, and you're hounded. I've even been PM'd by models while in a PVT, or other model's room hounding me to go see their room. One was very blunt, rude, etc with me that I wound up reporting her and C&P'ing the entire PM exchange into the message to MFC support. No idea if they did anything....

As to tips, I appreciate hearing a thank you. But, often times, I don't expect one. Espeically if it's a yellow wall or slow roll of small tokens.

 

[baileyhawke]

I smiled and thanked every contributor regardless of the amount they contributed when I cammed; bigger contributions get bigger responses, but everyone got at the very least a smile and a thankyou. Now doing PSO stuff, I keep track of my customer lists and thank the people who call me, chat with me, tribute me, and buy my stuff. If they buy a lot of stuff, I even send them something extra, like if they like photosets I'll send them a picture in the little thankyou mail, or if they had a long call with me or even a short but nice call or they tributed or bought stuff during the call, I'll send a couple of free minutes here or there. I treat maintaining customer relationships as a part of my back-end work, right up there with working on my profiles and churning out new content. I want my customers to know that I value them and the money they spend on me.

Unless you're deep into an established roleplay thing with a member who doesn't want to be acknowledged at all for paying you, expressing gratitude is just good business sense. Unless they're into that specific thing, people generally love to be acknowledged. Heck, I get warm fuzzies when someone leaves a like or an agree emoji on my posts here. Entitlement isn't sexy unless you're dealing with people who have a fetish for it, and even then, those folks are still people and it doesn't hurt to let them know you appreciate them.

 

[dark_mermaid]

There was one Russian studio that was supposedly closed down by the police around late summer 2017. I think it's been in trouble since then, as most models I know have quit or gone elsewhere. This studio, I know was on MFC, and I'm sure ohter sites as well.

This can happen. From what I heard and read it's mostly not paying taxes that gets studios into trouble and can get them closed down. Models should be fine though. Employees don't get punished when their employeer does not pay taxes.

 

[Deleted member 37064]

This can happen. From what I heard and read it's mostly not paying taxes that gets studios into trouble and can get them closed down. Models should be fine though. Employees don't get punished when their employeer does not pay taxes.

According to the couple of models I've come to know at that particular studio, each of the models were arrested and fined with court appearances. Something about being illegal where they live.

Of course, this is taken it at face value. They may not actually be in Russia, and they may not be telling the truth.

 

[TemporarilyWhining]

I would never give a negative reply for a tip, that to me is insane. I am too busy doing my job and attracting new business, and thanking people for good tips, to imagine how someone would have time to chase down a stranger to bitch them out!

But, there is psychology to this. And I do NOT thank for 1 token tips. On CB, 1 token = US$.05. If you're going to throw pennies at my chest, I do see that as an insult. I work very hard, and provide a more quality service than that. No one would dream of giving pennies to a street performer, or putting US$.05 in a tip jar, or leaving that as a tip at a restaurant. That does NOT add up over time to be worth much to me. And when you give positive reinforcement for it, it trains everybody else in the room that they can tip 1 token and get a smile or personal attention from me, which on a platform like CB is just exhausting and annoying. Even if I only have 6 people tipping, all with their 1 tokens, it's a huge distraction to me giving a good show because I can't give good conversation, or focus on providing entertainment, because I have to stop every 15 seconds and look up and call out somebody's name and say 1000 annoying thank yous. When I lurk on other model's pages, I frequently leave if I have to hear the annoying cutesy thank you hundreds of times in 5 minutes for every stupid penny - even for a popular model who is clearly worth far more than that. I think to myself, "oh, this is exactly why then they come to my room and throw pennies with an entitled attitude that I should remember their name and shit, because they learned from a more popular model that everybody in the room who tries, get a consolation prize." I don't reward poor efforts.

This is a job. People who pay poor wages, generally get poor employees. Don't disrespect me with the bare minimum of wage, and then expect to get a top level of service.

Now having said that, I do thank if you do at least 5 tokens at a time, which is still of course pitifully small. But 5 tokens is at least a US quarter, which in real life I consider to be good money, lol! It's still insulting as a tip for any good work, and it's not going to get us to reach a goal... but at least it's making an effort. Particularly if then you keep the tips coming. I am very grateful if I see that someone spent their last 5 tokens on me, and went back to gray after, which I have seen a number of times. They really just didn't have any more money. If you have a ton of money in your account, and you keep giving me 1 token, I will pretend like you don't even exist, or possibly even block you for the day. You are wasting everybody's time. We're no closer to meeting goal, and you're just trying to look like a big man. Those guys usually end up being extremely arrogant assholes.

I make a way bigger deal, and do way more to please, customers the bigger the tip is. And also, the nicer they are even if they don't pay me much of anything. Because I value either a shit-ton of money, or at least to enjoy myself at my job if I'm making nothing.

I would rather make nothing and just have compliments than get 1 token every time with no note, or a rude demand. BUT, I absolutely am grateful for 1 token with a kind comment or question - that at least shows you value my time when you speak to me... although I would of course prefer higher tip amounts to speak. But if the room is slow, that's at least preferable.

Linda Evangelista famously said, "I won't get out of bed for anything less than 10k." And you know what? People thought that was snobby as shit, but she brought in the money. When you price yourself well, people think you're worth something. Starbucks is as expensive as a whole meal, but people pay it, because people like to think they're in an exclusive club. They are killing it in the economy, whereas Kmart is going out of business. Price yourself like you're worth something, and people will eventually think you're worth something (IF you provide good service). Value yourself like a discount store, and people will leave trash all over your aisles and curse at you as they walk out.

I don't give positive reinforcement for behavior I don't wish to see repeated. 1 token is nonsense, and I really resent CB for selling tokens that are worth such a pitiful amount. It encourages that run of one's that CB users love to do on Lovense users, etc, that is annoying as hell and makes them feel like a big man when at the end of it all they did was spend US$2. Like, you're a dick. When people "make it rain" in a club, it's with singles, not pennies, Dipshit. CB should not sell anything worth less than US$1 to the model, IMO. But, of course, internationally the exchange rate varies and smaller amounts will go farther. I just would prefer fewer tips in higher amounts, than the constant rain of noise interrupting my show or my conversations with people for unimpressive nonsense. It's just a way for members to steal my thunder and get the attention on them, for doing nothing special whatsoever. And those types always add some stupid comment with it, like, Whats ur real name? or Where do you live? I think you live in ___ ....

People who pay more are usually nicer, because they actually respect and value you more.


That said, I would be thankful for 20 tokens with a compliment, especially from another model, and ESPECIALLY from a female model! That to me is high praise, because we're all here to make money, and so coming from a peer who is obviously just trying to get the ball rolling for you, or say something nice and is not monopolizing your time with a bunch of freebies, is great. So how I view it for models is totally different from how I see members.

I don't roll of out bed for less than 100 tokens. That is still only US$5, which is a sad tip for hard work. But if you want to really make me excited, I'm an expensive date. Or, you need to entertain me with some really great conversation. I have to do something special to keep your attention. The world works both ways, baby... If you're just a member, I'm not going to give you the time of day for putting in a poor effort, the same way you wouldn't stay in my room for more than 2 seconds if I only half-assed my show. The bigger the effort to impress me or entertain me with your wit at least, the more attention you get. 1 token is like throwing at an insult at my very awesome chest. It is worth waaaaay more, and so is my friendly smile, and my kind replies to genuine interest.

 

[CamChik]

When I started camming I would go into model's rooms as a guest as well to see how it looks from their side of the camera. I found a stunning model who looked bored and was playing on her phone. I felt bad for her and tipped her a few times and she just looked up at me, glared at the camera and looked back at her phone. I was completely gobsmacked. Keep in mind I had not started camming yet and was broke so that money was hard to let go of. That experience in itself taught me a lot.

I started visiting other models rooms and began tipping less off of looks and more off of personality. That is when I hit the jackpot with appreciative models, and in turn I learned a lot from them!

I ALWAYS say thank you, no matter what size this tip. ALWAYS! And as addressed above, yes, it's positive reinforcement. And it WORKS! These guys need to feel they are receiving some sort of reward for their effort. You never know if the member is broke as fuck and that $1 tip he gave you is hard for him to do but he likes you enough to do it anyway.

If he's just being cheap - being able to see that comes with time, the cheap one's all kind of have the same M.O.. I thank them regardless because they didn't have to tip me a fucking dime, but they did I even thank the guys that try to tip $1 to see boobs. I tell them they need to tip more for that, say thank you and then they usually oblige me by tipping the full amount or they stfu and leave.

Showing appreciation is a part of sales I've had a member that rarely tipped, and when he did it was a few bucks a day and then he came riding into my room with $900 and dropped it on me in 10 minutes. And he still does this twice a week for about 3 months now! He said he likes to spoil me because he knows I APPRECIATE it and don't act like a spoiled brat! Sometimes being nice to the "cheap" guys can pay off.......

 

[NotYou]

When I started camming I would go into model's rooms as a guest as well to see how it looks from their side of the camera. I found a stunning model who looked bored and was playing on her phone. I felt bad for her and tipped her a few times and she just looked up at me, glared at the camera and looked back at her phone. I was completely gobsmacked. Keep in mind I had not started camming yet and was broke so that money was hard to let go of. That experience in itself taught me a lot.

And it's reasons like this we users/tippers don't like to return. It seems like - especially depending what country you're from - you're treated that if you're ANY colour on CB, for example, that it automatically means you're rich and have some huge/high salary/wage that you can afford to just keep buying and spending tokens. But in reality there is only a handful of people that do, in comparison to those that don't, at least. So it's really great when you go to a room and a woman/model DOES understand and appreciate: 200 tokens per week may be a lot for me personally, so me tipping you 25 "for nothing" but maybe expect a thank you and/or a little smile or something, means a lot.

It seems as soon as a model typically finds out you're American or British, you kind of see dollar signs in their eyes BECAUSE they ASSUME you are on some super high salary and have money to "burn" daily.

 

[TemporarilyWhining]

I found a stunning model who looked bored and was playing on her phone. I felt bad for her and tipped her a few times and she just looked up at me, glared at the camera and looked back at her phone. I was completely gobsmacked.

You need to remember that the ignore/sub/bitchface fetish is a thing, though. When there is a really over-the top reaction of disgust, rudeness, or neglect in response to a tip, it is often because the model plays into a particular fetish and that is her cam persona. She might actually be grateful, but she makes more money from a small group of regulars when she acts like she isn't.

When you say though that they need to feel they're receiving a reward for their effort ALWAYS, well, if all you can afford is 1 - count it, ONE token on CB, literally US$.05 - then pay-for-play porn is not where you should be spending your free time. To keep this in perspective, the cost of a single movie ticket is somewhere in the vicinity of 200 tokens. If you can't afford more than 1/200th of a movie ticket, for a public session of entertainment that might be lasting just as long as one, you need to get yourself together. I don't feel sorry for you, I'm working a job, get a damn job like I work so hard for, so you can afford to give more than 1 single token at a time! The reward is that I'm smiling, I'm being sweet and entertaining, and if a member helps me reach a goal they'll get an eyeful too. If you help me afford my bills, you can cull a relationship with me for years to come, because I can afford to stay on cam. If all you do is drop a penny or two and then leave, I'm not going to kiss your ass for the favor. It's literally 1/1000th of the bare minimum of US$50 I need to cash out, so I can't even take it home with me if I wanted. CB keeps that token, unless somebody with a more generous spirit and deeper pockets come along and gives me 999 more tokens before the close of the pay period.

To me, there has to be a limit for how low I'm willing to grovel for spare change. (I'm not one of those models who just sits on her ass and stares at her phone for hours on end, never moving a muscle, though...)

When you're grateful for US$.05, you teach them that that's all it takes to please you.

CamChik, you do mention that they don't have to tip you a fucking dime... well, congrats, they didn't. On CB, 1 token is half that. So all your examples, including the US$1 for flash (20 CB tokens), are significantly higher than the real level of cheapskate you can find on CB. Sure, thank for US$1. But ALWAYS, no matter how small? So if they invent tokens worth 1/10 of a single penny, and everybody flocks to give those, smile and thank those idiots too?

Not trying to be antagonistic, because I generally agree with the gratitude sentiment. But positive reinforcement has a negative side, when you encourage disrespectful behavior. I would never roll my eyes or show outward disrespect back, but I will keep smiling and doing what I'm doing and pretend I didn't see the measly 1 token. At which point they usually get mad and move on. And I don't miss them when they're gone.

If a single-token tipper finally gets around to giving me 10 tokens cumulatively, I do finally get around to thanking them. But in my experience, they almost never manage to start paying in higher numbers. They just like making the ca-ching! sound in the room over and over again, like fucking toddlers. On the other hand, guys who start at 15, or 25 tokens, are very frequently just testing the waters, and if they get a reaction, very often they will drop real bank, or go buy more tokens another day and show you how much of a fan they are. So in my experience so far, there is a big difference between single-token members, and those who drop at least double-digit tokens. If you had real money to spend, you wouldn't waste your own time on the chance she might ignore you for the pennies... you'd start with something that is at least equivalent to a single paper bill, and work your way up from there.

 

[DJ_Pioneer]

You need to remember that the ignore/sub/bitchface fetish is a thing, though. When there is a really over-the top reaction of disgust, rudeness, or neglect in response to a tip, it is often because the model plays into a particular fetish and that is her cam persona. She might actually be grateful, but she makes more money from a small group of regulars when she acts like she isn't.

When you say though that they need to feel they're receiving a reward for their effort ALWAYS, well, if all you can afford is 1 - count it, ONE token on CB, literally US$.05 - then pay-for-play porn is not where you should be spending your free time. To keep this in perspective, the cost of a single movie ticket is somewhere in the vicinity of 200 tokens. If you can't afford more than 1/200th of a movie ticket, for a public session of entertainment that might be lasting just as long as one, you need to get yourself together. I don't feel sorry for you, I'm working a job, get a damn job like I work so hard for, so you can afford to give more than 1 single token at a time! The reward is that I'm smiling, I'm being sweet and entertaining, and if a member helps me reach a goal they'll get an eyeful too. If you help me afford my bills, you can cull a relationship with me for years to come, because I can afford to stay on cam. If all you do is drop a penny or two and then leave, I'm not going to kiss your ass for the favor. It's literally 1/1000th of the bare minimum of US$50 I need to cash out, so I can't even take it home with me if I wanted. CB keeps that token, unless somebody with a more generous spirit and deeper pockets come along and gives me 999 more tokens before the close of the pay period.

To me, there has to be a limit for how low I'm willing to grovel for spare change. (I'm not one of those models who just sits on her ass and stares at her phone for hours on end, never moving a muscle, though...)

When you're grateful for US$.05, you teach them that that's all it takes to please you.

CamChik, you do mention that they don't have to tip you a fucking dime... well, congrats, they didn't. On CB, 1 token is half that. So all your examples, including the US$1 for flash (20 CB tokens), are significantly higher than the real level of cheapskate you can find on CB. Sure, thank for US$1. But ALWAYS, no matter how small? So if they invent tokens worth 1/10 of a single penny, and everybody flocks to give those, smile and thank those idiots too?

Not trying to be antagonistic, because I generally agree with the gratitude sentiment. But positive reinforcement has a negative side, when you encourage disrespectful behavior. I would never roll my eyes or show outward disrespect back, but I will keep smiling and doing what I'm doing and pretend I didn't see the measly 1 token. At which point they usually get mad and move on. And I don't miss them when they're gone.

If a single-token tipper finally gets around to giving me 10 tokens cumulatively, I do finally get around to thanking them. But in my experience, they almost never manage to start paying in higher numbers. They just like making the ca-ching! sound in the room over and over again, like fucking toddlers. On the other hand, guys who start at 15, or 25 tokens, are very frequently just testing the waters, and if they get a reaction, very often they will drop real bank, or go buy more tokens another day and show you how much of a fan they are. So in my experience so far, there is a big difference between single-token members, and those who drop at least double-digit tokens. If you had real money to spend, you wouldn't waste your own time on the chance she might ignore you for the pennies... you'd start with something that is at least equivalent to a single paper bill, and work your way up from there.

To be fair at this point I would be far more likely to tip @CamChik than you after your reply to her. Saying thank you once is not a choir it is something polite people do when some one does something nice for them like holding open a door. Also you can't know if a person is being a cheapskate or if they tipped you the last token they had left just to be nice to you, I hope they haven't done that because it seems like throwing pearls before swine with the attitude you have towards small tippers. I can't really believe the entitlement you must have when you call tippers idiots just because they are small tippers. It is good that you are not rolling your eyes at them, but deliberately ignoring them is still kind of rude if you got nothing in particular going on in your room. Your way of looking at tippers is one of the more cynical I have seen a model admit to having. Anyway good luck on CB, I hope you find the people that has the deep pockets you are looking for.

 

[CamChik]

Wow, that was a nice welcome - sorry to have offended you. I was speaking from personal experience, wasn't trying to be offensive in any way. I had been in her room before and she didn't seem to be pulling the fetish thing. She just looked like a bored model having a hard day and I wanted to perk her up a bit. If that's her hustle, well that's fine, but it just made me move on to another model. Lesson learned not to tip her. Saying Thank You is just who I am as a human being

I'm also in my 40's so I don't need to be schooled on economics, but thank you for the lengthy explanation.

I am not saying to "grovel for spare change" which BTW could have been worded better - inflammatory much? I'm just saying a simple "thank you" is courteous and shows appreciation and respect. I've been camming for 4 years so I know how this works BTW. I don't throw them a fucking parade for small tips but I do smile at the cam and say thank you. I ALWAYS acknowledge their tip. AND, I have been able to convert many lower level spenders into spending more by doing so.

And that is correct, they don't have to tip me a fucking dime. But, some of them do, and a lot of them shower me in tokens. My main point was just to be grateful for everything you do get. These men don't have to come into your room or talk to you or tip you. But when they do it's nice to say thank you. When I grew up we didn't just get awards or free shit for just showing up.... we had to make some effort. Saying "thanks", even though it's a small effort is an effort nonetheless.

BTW, I work on a site where my average minimum tip nets me about $0.50. I make $7K-$10K a month so "groveling" or "kissing ass" for spare change seems to be working out for me

I'm not encouraging disrespectful behavior by thanking someone for a tip. Smh.

 

[CamChik]

To be fair at this point I would be far more likely to tip @CamChik than you after your reply to her. Saying thank you once is not a choir it is something polite people do when some one does something nice for them like holding open a door. Also you can't know if a person is being a cheapskate or if they tipped you the last token they had left just to be nice to you, I hope they haven't done that because it seems like throwing pearls before swine with the attitude you have towards small tippers. I can't really believe the entitlement you must have when you call tippers idiots just because they are small tippers. It is good that you are not rolling your eyes at them, but deliberately ignoring them is still kind of rude if you got nothing in particular going on in your room. Your way of looking at tippers is one of the more cynical I have seen a model admit to having. Anyway good luck on CB, I hope you find the people that has the deep pockets you are looking for.

Thank you DJ - I appreciate that.

 

[AmberCutie]

You need to remember that the ignore/sub/bitchface fetish is a thing, though. When there is a really over-the top reaction of disgust, rudeness, or neglect in response to a tip, it is often because the model plays into a particular fetish and that is her cam persona. She might actually be grateful, but she makes more money from a small group of regulars when she acts like she isn't.

When you say though that they need to feel they're receiving a reward for their effort ALWAYS, well, if all you can afford is 1 - count it, ONE token on CB, literally US$.05 - then pay-for-play porn is not where you should be spending your free time. To keep this in perspective, the cost of a single movie ticket is somewhere in the vicinity of 200 tokens. If you can't afford more than 1/200th of a movie ticket, for a public session of entertainment that might be lasting just as long as one, you need to get yourself together. I don't feel sorry for you, I'm working a job, get a damn job like I work so hard for, so you can afford to give more than 1 single token at a time! The reward is that I'm smiling, I'm being sweet and entertaining, and if a member helps me reach a goal they'll get an eyeful too. If you help me afford my bills, you can cull a relationship with me for years to come, because I can afford to stay on cam. If all you do is drop a penny or two and then leave, I'm not going to kiss your ass for the favor. It's literally 1/1000th of the bare minimum of US$50 I need to cash out, so I can't even take it home with me if I wanted. CB keeps that token, unless somebody with a more generous spirit and deeper pockets come along and gives me 999 more tokens before the close of the pay period.

To me, there has to be a limit for how low I'm willing to grovel for spare change. (I'm not one of those models who just sits on her ass and stares at her phone for hours on end, never moving a muscle, though...)

When you're grateful for US$.05, you teach them that that's all it takes to please you.

CamChik, you do mention that they don't have to tip you a fucking dime... well, congrats, they didn't. On CB, 1 token is half that. So all your examples, including the US$1 for flash (20 CB tokens), are significantly higher than the real level of cheapskate you can find on CB. Sure, thank for US$1. But ALWAYS, no matter how small? So if they invent tokens worth 1/10 of a single penny, and everybody flocks to give those, smile and thank those idiots too?

Not trying to be antagonistic, because I generally agree with the gratitude sentiment. But positive reinforcement has a negative side, when you encourage disrespectful behavior. I would never roll my eyes or show outward disrespect back, but I will keep smiling and doing what I'm doing and pretend I didn't see the measly 1 token. At which point they usually get mad and move on. And I don't miss them when they're gone.

If a single-token tipper finally gets around to giving me 10 tokens cumulatively, I do finally get around to thanking them. But in my experience, they almost never manage to start paying in higher numbers. They just like making the ca-ching! sound in the room over and over again, like fucking toddlers. On the other hand, guys who start at 15, or 25 tokens, are very frequently just testing the waters, and if they get a reaction, very often they will drop real bank, or go buy more tokens another day and show you how much of a fan they are. So in my experience so far, there is a big difference between single-token members, and those who drop at least double-digit tokens. If you had real money to spend, you wouldn't waste your own time on the chance she might ignore you for the pennies... you'd start with something that is at least equivalent to a single paper bill, and work your way up from there.

I don't believe you've disclosed what your model name/account is, so I can't tell for sure, but it would seem what you're into the domme/brat persona based on your posts in this thread. I think your input is fine in the context of helping another model embrace her domme side, but telling people who don't cater to that fetish to not show grattitude for a tip, regardless of size, is bad advice.

Please try not to make this advice sound like it appeals to or is proper for the majority of cam models and their members.

Editing to add: If a member is tossing single tokens down constantly in a tip wall/etc, it is reasonable to not thank for every single tip in that case. (in my opinion). But someone tossing a nickel in the bucket because they appreciated your time is way better than the 1000 people sitting on their hands (or likely using their hands to jack off for free).

 

[TemporarilyWhining]

Wow, that was a nice welcome - sorry to have offended you. I was speaking from personal experience, wasn't trying to be offensive in any way. I had been in her room before and she didn't seem to be pulling the fetish thing. She just looked like a bored model having a hard day and I wanted to perk her up a bit. If that's her hustle, well that's fine, but it just made me move on to another model. Lesson learned not to tip her. Saying Thank You is just who I am as a human being

I'm also in my 40's so I don't need to be schooled on economics, but thank you for the lengthy explanation.

I am not saying to "grovel for spare change" which BTW could have been worded better - inflammatory much? I'm just saying a simple "thank you" is courteous and shows appreciation and respect. I've been camming for 4 years so I know how this works BTW. I don't throw them a fucking parade for small tips but I do smile at the cam and say thank you. I ALWAYS acknowledge their tip. AND, I have been able to convert many lower level spenders into spending more by doing so.

And that is correct, they don't have to tip me a fucking dime. But, some of them do, and a lot of them shower me in tokens. My main point was just to be grateful for everything you do get. These men don't have to come into your room or talk to you or tip you. But when they do it's nice to say thank you. When I grew up we didn't just get awards or free shit for just showing up.... we had to make some effort. Saying "thanks", even though it's a small effort is an effort nonetheless.

BTW, I work on a site where my average minimum tip nets me about $0.50. I make $7K-$10K a month so "groveling" or "kissing ass" for spare change seems to be working out for me

I'm not encouraging disrespectful behavior by thanking someone for a tip. Smh.

I think you really misunderstood me. I apologize if you thought I was insulting you. What you considered inflammatory language, was not directed at you at all. It was at the type of guys who expect a show for a single token, and then are rude afterwards when one doesn't give more or act like they are suddenly king.

Also, don't take offense to my wordy posts, it's just how I communicate... I've got lots of thoughts! I'm in no place to talk down to anyone. I have an neurological disease that makes editing really difficult. I cam specifically to pay for my medical bills.


I specifically said in a previous post that I DO thank for 5 tokens or higher... that was the limit for groveling for spare change I was talking about. I said me, and I meant me. I will grovel and smile for 25 cents. That is my lower limit. We each set our own.

I hope you find the people that has the deep pockets you are looking for.

so LOL to this comment...

I didn't know 25 cents was deep pockets!

I don't think that makes me a domme. Smiling and being sweet, and thanking every 5 token or higher tipper, is not really domme territory, and it has worked for me, @AmberCutie. I think it's good for people to call out where they disagree - that's the point of a forum! And I agree with being grateful, and with the OP of this thread that that model who responded to her 20 tokens or whatever acted insane. I pointed out that some do the rude fetish thing to try to make her feel better, that it might have been a show. But again, I personally would kiss the ass of a MODEL who tipped me ANYTHING, because they're peers. But I don't have time in my session usually to thank every 1 token dude. I'm too busy talking to people who are tipping 5 tokens (or 100... which again, is still only US$5, so not like huge money).

No clue why I'm being shamed for saying I keep smiling when someone tips only 1 token but don't say anything to them. And that I DO thank for 5 tokens. That's not even close to snobby, or special by any means.

But, to each their own. I just think it's good to show there are different perspectives on topics when it comes to models... we're not all the same.

And no, I haven't verified, because I say plenty of stuff that goes against the grain and that is complain-y at times against members, so I have no desire whatsoever to be public about my cam personas. This allows me to tell the TRUTH about how some models feel, especially girlfriend-experience types like myself, whereas people who use their cam persona have to always be mindful of business when they speak. Behind the sweet smiles on cam, it really shouldn't be all that surprising that many models are not thrilled with 5 cent tips. Try giving a nickel to a stripper, a prostitute, a print model, or even a waitress and see if they smile at you and say a genuine-sounding "thank you"! No surprise, in an industry that survives on tips, the very smallest tip possible of 1 token is not going to get you gratitude from every sex worker... I think I'm being very generous for saying thank you to a quarter! No waitress would say the same thing, and she didn't even get her tits out for you...

Honestly no clue why my response about that is controversial in the least. I typed it simply because I was surprised to see so many people apparently claiming the opposite. Starting to say my thank yous at 5 tokens is not aiming high, people! How could I possibly be getting hate for that? I specifically said I would NEVER be rude... just pretend I hadn't seen it. And indeed, small tips like that on CB make a quieter sound, so it's completely reasonable if a model is busy that's she'd miss it!

Since I work for tips, I have a right to find a tip of only 1 token annoying. It's not going to scar anyone for life if I keep going on with my show and smiling at them after they gave me "their last 5 cents on Earth"... although fine if we want to take it to that over-dramatic level, guys. Members are on the site wanking off to porn, remember, not feeding starving kids in Kolkata! If all they've got is 5 cents left to their name, I'd much rather they use it on kids who need rice, where it might go a TINY hair farther, than on my tits...

No clue why we're feeling so sorry for them. When I see a purple member who has more tokens than everybody else in the room including me, and I may have over 1,000 tokens in that moment, and he gives me 1 token and demands a PM bb or to look at his dumb dic pic, and then gets mad and leaves and never gives anything else when I don't, that guy is just an arrogant dickhead. But if my feeling that makes me entitled and rude... wow, I don't even know what to say to that then. Why are you assuming they don't have more than 1 token? I can see for myself how much they have - they were at the highest ranking, then they give 1 token, and they're still at the highest ranking. It's not like they want from blue to gray. It's not like they even gave a compliment with the token - always just a rude demand. Jesus. Let's get out a mini violin for the poor douche with 5,000 tokens though, instead of the girl working her ass off and saying thank you for every 25 cent tip...

I'm not here to offend anyone. I adore other models, and want only to share with and learn from others who are doing this difficult job!

 

[Alyssa Taylor]

I feel like the bigger picture isn't being seen here. Idk. I worked on CB briefly and those 1 token tips add up really quickly and can make others want to pitch in too. It's a group effort on sites like CB and MFC. If you at least say thank you, that person might be inclined to tip another token, maybe 5 tokens, maybe even more. Or maybe they'll go away and come back in another day with some more tokens. Or maybe they won't come back at all. But you never know if you don't at least acknowledge it/them.

No one wants to be ignored if they give you a tip even if it's just 1 token; I'm pretty sure it wouldn't make someone want to tip more in the future though.

 

[DJ_Pioneer]

I think you really misunderstood me. I apologize if you thought I was insulting you. What you considered inflammatory language, was not directed at you at all. It was at the type of guys who expect a show for a single token, and then are rude afterwards when one doesn't give more or act like they are suddenly king.

Also, don't take offense to my wordy posts, it's just how I communicate... I've got lots of thoughts! I'm in no place to talk down to anyone. I have an neurological disease that makes editing really difficult. I cam specifically to pay for my medical bills.


I specifically said in a previous post that I DO thank for 5 tokens or higher... that was the limit for groveling for spare change I was talking about. I said me, and I meant me. I will grovel and smile for 25 cents. That is my lower limit. We each set our own.



so LOL to this comment...

I didn't know 25 cents was deep pockets!

I don't think that makes me a domme. Smiling and being sweet, and thanking every 5 token or higher tipper, is not really domme territory, and it has worked for me, @AmberCutie. I think it's good for people to call out where they disagree - that's the point of a forum! And I agree with being grateful, and with the OP of this thread that that model who responded to her 20 tokens or whatever acted insane. I pointed out that some do the rude fetish thing to try to make her feel better, that it might have been a show. But again, I personally would kiss the ass of a MODEL who tipped me ANYTHING, because they're peers. But I don't have time in my session usually to thank every 1 token dude. I'm too busy talking to people who are tipping 5 tokens (or 100... which again, is still only US$5, so not like huge money).

No clue why I'm being shamed for saying I keep smiling when someone tips only 1 token but don't say anything to them. And that I DO thank for 5 tokens. That's not even close to snobby, or special by any means.

But, to each their own. I just think it's good to show there are different perspectives on topics when it comes to models... we're not all the same.

And no, I haven't verified, because I say plenty of stuff that goes against the grain and that is complain-y at times against members, so I have no desire whatsoever to be public about my cam personas. This allows me to tell the TRUTH about how some models feel, especially girlfriend-experience types like myself, whereas people who use their cam persona have to always be mindful of business when they speak. Behind the sweet smiles on cam, it really shouldn't be all that surprising that many models are not thrilled with 5 cent tips. Try giving a nickel to a stripper, a prostitute, a print model, or even a waitress and see if they smile at you and say a genuine-sounding "thank you"! No surprise, in an industry that survives on tips, the very smallest tip possible of 1 token is not going to get you gratitude from every sex worker... I think I'm being very generous for saying thank you to a quarter! No waitress would say the same thing, and she didn't even get her tits out for you...

Honestly no clue why my response about that is controversial in the least. I typed it simply because I was surprised to see so many people apparently claiming the opposite. Starting to say my thank yous at 5 tokens is not aiming high, people! How could I possibly be getting hate for that? I specifically said I would NEVER be rude... just pretend I hadn't seen it. And indeed, small tips like that on CB make a quieter sound, so it's completely reasonable if a model is busy that's she'd miss it!

Since I work for tips, I have a right to find a tip of only 1 token annoying. It's not going to scar anyone for life if I keep going on with my show and smiling at them after they gave me "their last 5 cents on Earth"... although fine if we want to take it to that over-dramatic level, guys. Members are on the site wanking off to porn, remember, not feeding starving kids in Kolkata! If all they've got is 5 cents left to their name, I'd much rather they use it on kids who need rice, where it might go a TINY hair farther, than on my tits...

No clue why we're feeling so sorry for them. When I see a purple member who has more tokens than everybody else in the room including me, and I may have over 1,000 tokens in that moment, and he gives me 1 token and demands a PM bb or to look at his dumb dic pic, and then gets mad and leaves and never gives anything else when I don't, that guy is just an arrogant dickhead. But if my feeling that makes me entitled and rude... wow, I don't even know what to say to that then. Why are you assuming they don't have more than 1 token? I can see for myself how much they have - they were at the highest ranking, then they give 1 token, and they're still at the highest ranking. It's not like they want from blue to gray. It's not like they even gave a compliment with the token - always just a rude demand. Jesus. Let's get out a mini violin for the poor douche with 5,000 tokens though, instead of the girl working her ass off and saying thank you for every 25 cent tip...

I'm not here to offend anyone. I adore other models, and want only to share with and learn from others who are doing this difficult job!

In your previous post that I quoted earlier you made it sound like the only tip that was really worth while was one of 1000 tokens which would net you $50 so you could cash out. You say that 25 tokens are enough but later in your post you are being dismissive towards a 100 token tip. Try to look at it from a members point of view buying 100 tokens cost $10.99, that is more than I get for an hours worth of work after the income taxes are paid. I work in customer service, we don't get tipped yet we are expected to be polite towards the customer, so I don't really see why it is such a problem thanking a person once for doing something nice towards you when it takes about two seconds to do so. I don't know how you were raised but when I grew up I learned that ignoring people was considered to be rude.

Basic politeness and treating each others as equals that shouldn't be considered negative reinforcement, it should be the way we conduct ourselves in dealing with each other even when there is no money to be gained from it. Based on what you have written so far I wouldn't consider you to be a generous person for thanking people for giving you a quarter, the people giving you the quarter could be considered to be generous depending on the circumstance. Also no one said that you have to cater to any demands made by the people that tips one token so I don't really understand why brought that up

 

[CarmillaClaret]

I don't work CB so I can't speak to that site and its dynamics, but I thank for every mfc tip

 

[corsican1]

Do you think the pink antenna has a lot to do with the proliferation of one token tips ? More bang for your buck at one token ten times than ten tokens once ? If members get used to it in certain rooms does this behavior carry over into others ?

 

[Picnic]

I appreciate @TemporarilyWhining ’s point of view here. It doesn’t sound like the members tipping 1 token at a time are getting ignored, it seems like they’re getting a five cent smile. @TemporarilyWhining is setting up an expectation for their own room, and it doesn’t sound like an outrageous expectation.

Does it hurt to say “thank you” to 1 token tips? No, but there’s also no reason to encourage it if you want more. MFC acknowledges this by allowing models the option to set a tip minimum. In fact, I think there even used to be a pop up warning that would come up on the member’s side of they tried to tip 1 token...something like “are you sure you only want to tip one token? some models find this rude.” Some models DO find it rude. Some don’t. I honestly see both sides of the coin (pun intended).

There really are entitled members out there who will stretch out their tips into the smallest chunks possible, then expect more than what they deserve from it. There are also members who only have a few tokens to spend, and that’s fine! I’ll always prefer a single tip of 20 tokens over twenty 1-token tips, though. If you’re thinking “what’s the difference, doesn’t it all add up the same in the end?”, remember that things like camscore exist.

I like the analogy of giving a bunch of nickels to a waitress or a stripper. There’s nothing wrong with appreciating every single nickel, but in the same vein, there’s nothing wrong with having higher expectations for the services you’re offering.

TLDR: different strokes for different folks! That’s the beauty of camming. Models get to set their own terms, and members get to tip the ones whose terms they’re down with

 

[yummybrownfox]

I need to read some of the newer posts in this thread, but...I really hope no one here expects models to actually say "Thank you" for every TIP WALL tip (If so, that is silly). Thank you's for the tip wall tips are the exception to the "I thank for every tip" rule. Because if anybody does sit there shouting thank you after a 20-token tip wall (1-token tips given to her 20 times in a row), then she sounds ridiculous...sorry. Lol. When it becomes clear to me that you are doing a tip wall, I'll usually say thank you for the first tip or two, and then I'll smile at you as you finish your tip wall. When you're done, I'll give you one final thank you with a smile. I will not sit there going "Thanks, BigCock4U!" after each tip wall tip, because that is dumb. Lol.

I don't even know why some members do that. Getting us all hyped that you're making it rain...for a grand total of $1? Does it give you satisfaction to hear that tip noise 20 times back to back? Do you feel it makes you look cooler, and look like a big spender? Are you hoping to hear the model say "Thank you, BigCock!" 20 times? Why give a "1 token twenty times in a row" tip wall if the model doesn't have a tip vibrator that reacts to the tips? Me wondering all of this, by the way, does not mean that I (or any other model) am ungrateful for those 1-token tips. Yes, I will thank you for the tokens. But not after every tip wall tip. I'm gonna space out my thank you's so I don't sound like a lunatic. Picture it (Sicily...2018...lol).....

BigCock4U has tipped you 1 token.
Me: Thanks, BigCock!
BigCock4U has tipped you 1 token.
Me: Thank you!
BigCock4U has tipped you 1 token.
Me: Thanks!
BigCock4U has tipped you 1 token.
Me: Thanks!
BigCock4U has tipped you 1 token.
Me: Thanks, BigCock!
BigCock4U has tipped you 1 token.
Me: Thanks!
BigCock4U has tipped you 1 token.
Me: Thanks!
BigCock4U has tipped you 1 token.
Me: Thanks!
BigCock4U has tipped you 1 token.
Me: Thanks!
BigCock4U has tipped you 1 token.
Me: Thanks, BigCock!
BigCock4U has tipped you 1 token.
Me: Thanks, BigCock!
BigCock4U has tipped you 1 token.
Me: Thanks, BigCock!
BigCock4U has tipped you 1 token.
Me: Thanks, BigCock!
BigCock4U has tipped you 1 token.
Me: Thanks, BigCock!
BigCock4U has tipped you 1 token.
Me: Thanks, BigCock!
BigCock4U has tipped you 1 token.
Me: Thanks!
BigCock4U has tipped you 1 token.
Me: Thanks!
BigCock4U has tipped you 1 token.
Me: Thanks!
BigCock4U has tipped you 1 token.
Me: Thank you!
BigCock4U has tipped you 1 token.
Me: Ohmigod! Thanks, BigCock!

Did you picture it? It's annoying, right? Lol.

 

[yummybrownfox]

Do you think the pink antenna has a lot to do with the proliferation of one token tips ? More bang for your buck at one token ten times than ten tokens once ? If members get used to it in certain rooms does this behavior carry over into others ?

Possibly. The last (or second to last) time I broadcasted on CB, there was a member who did a 1-token tip wall of like 10 tokens total or something. I thanked him (not for each tip though...that would sound ridiculously repetitive), but wondered to myself why he did that. Maybe he thought I had a tip vibe or something? He didn't ask if I had one. Maybe he just assumed I did since everyone and their momma has one these days.

 

[yummybrownfox]

I worked on CB briefly and those 1 token tips add up really quickly and can make others want to pitch in too.If you at least say thank you, that person might be inclined to tip another token, maybe 5 tokens, maybe even more.

I agree. Definitely say thank you for tips of all sizes. But once you realize he's doing a tip wall (multiple tips), please don't thank for EACH tip. Lol. Let the man finish so you can thank him once more. See my above post for a demonstration on how annoying this could become.