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I will try and add to this thread at least once a day. :) I figured I would start one just for the hell of it.

Let's start with the basics!

When meeting someone for the first time, you introduce yourself by saying, Hajimemashite followed by your name, _ desu and then finally dozo yoroshiku. You may say dozo yoroshiku onegaishimasu to make it more polite. This translates into
Hello! My name is _. Nice to meet you.

When writing in Japanese, it looks like はじめまして。_です。どうぞよろしく。
 
Zoomer said:
How do you pronounce it?:)


Is it like "hahshe-mem-a-shee-teh"
Yea, what he said.

thanks for starting this thread BTW I've always wanted to learn Japanese :thumbleft:
 
Poker_Babe said:
Zoomer said:
How do you pronounce it?:)


Is it like "hahshe-mem-a-shee-teh"
Yea, what he said.

thanks for starting this thread BTW I've always wanted to learn Japanese :thumbleft:

The thing with Japanese is that unlike how we put stress on certain syllables, they really don't put any stress on any particular syllable. I've noticed a lot of people have trouble with pronunciation because of how we put stress on so many parts of our words. Like the Japanese word "Ohayou!" (informal Good Morning!") is pronounced "oh-hah-yo" but I hear many people try to pronounce it incorrectly like Ohio. In "Ohio", we stress the "HI" like "oh-HIGH-oh" whereas Japanese pronounce Ohayou as "oh-hah-yo" without any stress, almost taking stress away from the "hah" and blending the "oh" and "yo" together.

They also pronounce certain syllables so quickly that it blends together as if it were only one syllable. The word "tsuki" (moon) is pronounced almost like "ski" because of how quickly the first syllable is pronounced, more like "ss-KI". It's kind of like a silent letter in most cases when the syllables are blended.

So "Hajimemashite" would be pronounced "ha-gee-meh-mah-sh-teh". No stress on any syllable, and the "mashite" sounds kind of like "mahsh-tuh". Also, "desu" can be said in two ways--"deh-su" is the polite way, but the "u" can be dropped in informal situations where it sounds like "deh-s" as in rhyming with "mess".

Douzo yoroshiku is pronounced "do-zo yo-ro-shi-ku" though the shi-ku part is still more like "shh-ku". The "r"s in Japanese are pronounced like a mix between a "d" and an "r". Like a soft "d" kind of, if you've never heard the way they pronounce the "r"s, watching a Japanese video would be a good idea, it's really easily to pronounce unlike rolling an "r" but it definitely sounds more like a "d" than an "r".

Also, many Japanese aren't fluent in writing Kanji, Hiragana, or Katakana (the written language) until they are in high school sometimes because of how many characters they have to learn to be fluent. I've been studying Japanese for years but haven't really attempted to learn the written form yet.

With how specific the Japanese language is, it's very helpful to have both the romaji next to it as well as to listen to the audio pronunciation or at least watch or listen to Japanese media to get an understanding of how the language works. I think that spoken Japanese is actually really easy to learn and very beautiful sounding.
 
OK, I'm still having a hard time understanding... When are either of you ladies gonna be on cam next??? Do you think either one of you could speak it on cam so I could hear the correct way to say it???
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease???? lol
 
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Poker_Babe said:
OK, I'm still having a hard time understanding... When are either of you ladies gonna be on cam next??? Do you think either one of you could speak it on cam so I could hear the correct way to say it???
Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeease???? lol

I have no idea when I'm getting on cam, but there's this really awesome site called forvo.com that users can submit pronunciations to words, so it isn't like a computerized voice but actual people who know the language.

To prononce Hajimemashite:
http://www.forvo.com/word/hajimemashite/

Douzo yoroshiku:
http://www.forvo.com/word/douzo_yoroshiku/#ja

And as I was mentioning about the "Tsuki" (moon) and "Ohayou" (informal Good Morning):
http://www.forvo.com/word/tsuki_(突き)/#ja
http://www.forvo.com/search/ohayou/

If you listen, you can tell where the syllables kind of blend together or understressed, or how syllables are pronounced a bit monotonously where no syllable is stressed more than another one.
 
I can also help with Japanese on or off cam for you ladies! I love Japanese...not good with kanji though. Love this thread I really need to brush up on it actually, but I'd definitely like to be using it regularly again. It's a fun language, and waaay easier to learn than it looks! :thumbright:
 
This whole thread has made me remember a blog I use to love reading "Gaijin Smash. It was by a 6 foot tall black teacher, named Az, who went to Japan on the 'Jet' program to help teach elementary students. Very humorous stories involving daily life. Being Kancho'd was a recurring theme. If you don't know what Kancho is I'm not going to explain it. You wouldn't believe me anyway. But if you want to dig through the stories, his Archive section has them all here. http://gaijinchronicles.com/
 
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Woo! Lot's of replies! If anyone else who knows Japanese wants to add anything, go ahead ^.^

I figured that today I would do some greetings for different times of the day as well as asking how someone is doing.

If it's morning, you say Ohayoo or Ohayoo gozaimasu.. In Japanese, this looks like おはようor おはようございます There are two oo's at the end of ohayoo. This can be seen a lot in textbooks. It's supposed to mean that you pronounce the o longer. I hate it when they do that because I always want to pronounce it like oo as in "moo". I was taught to pronounce it as oh-hah-yo

In the afternoon, we use Konichiwa (こにちわ) I think a lot of you may already know how to say that

In the evening, we use Konbanwa(こんばんわ)

To say goodnight, we say Oyasumi (おやすみ) or Oyasumi nasai (おやすみなさい)

When it comes to learning how to pronounce things, I suggest listening to native Japanese speakers or teachers on places like Youtube and such. It'll give you a better idea instead of just reading from a textbook. :twocents-02cents:
 
I'm wondering how good are Lucy Lui's and Uma Therma's Japanese???

 
God said:
Poker_Babe said:
I'm wondering how good are Lucy Lui's and Uma Therma's Japanese???

probably at least as good as you spell their names.

Hi God! I noticed that you've been awfully judgmental in a couple of threads today about spelling and grammar. Perhaps you should take a look at your own typing as the first letter of sentences are meant to be capitalized. :thumbleft:
 
AllisonWilder said:
God said:
Poker_Babe said:
I'm wondering how good are Lucy Lui's and Uma Therma's Japanese???

probably at least as good as you spell their names.

Hi God! I noticed that you've been awfully judgmental in a couple of threads today about spelling and grammar. Perhaps you should take a look at your own typing as the first letter of sentences are meant to be capitalized. :thumbleft:


i wasn't awful with my judgements, maybe you noticed that i still spelled the word "i" correctly and the only words i misspelled were on the Japanese thread and they were intentionally misspelled.
 
I haven't posted in a few days. I've been a bit busy. I thought I'd just leave a few phrases here that might apply to camming.

Boku no yubi ni hon (ni hon is "2 fingers" and ippon "a finger".) o kimi no ana ni dashi ireshinagara, clitoris o kuchibiru to shita de nametai.
ぼくのゆびにほのきみあなにだしいれしながらクリトリスおくちびるとしたでなめたい。
I want to finger bang and eat you out

Anaru sex shite mo daijobu desuka?
アナルセックスしてもおだいじょぶですか?
Do you do anal?

Ashi o hiraite boku ni misete.
あしおひらてぼくにみせて。
Spread your legs. I wanna see.

Ii oshiri shiterune!
いいおしりしゅてるね!
Nice butt!

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AllisonWilder said:
God said:
Poker_Babe said:
I'm wondering how good are Lucy Lui's and Uma Therma's Japanese???

probably at least as good as you spell their names.

Hi God! I noticed that you've been awfully judgmental in a couple of threads today about spelling and grammar. Perhaps you should take a look at your own typing as the first letter of sentences are meant to be capitalized. :thumbleft:
With so many devices used to type messages on a forum now you never know if it's bad spelling, hitting a wrong key (that are so damned small now), auto-correct, someone using English as a 2nd language... The list is long. Generally there's no point to pointing out errors in a post that you can read and understand.

Usually I reserve that for those who habitually correct others posts. They had better be letter perfect in their grammar, spelling and punctuation or I slam it home on them fast. Glass houses and all that shit.
 
So, learning hiragana is super easy and I highly suggest you learn it just to do it, even if you don't plan on learning Japanese fluently. It's only about 48 actual characters, and it's really cool to be able to read things like "sushi" and "koneko". I think I'm going to post Hiragana and tips on remembering them soon, just because I think it's really fun to learn personally.

I'm just going explain a little bit about each syllabary used in written Japanese just in case anyone wants to know how it works.

Hiragana, Katakana, and Kanji!

Japanese is written in three different forms. Hiragana is what Japanese children learn first, it's very similar to our alphabet. Each character represents a different sound such as "wo, ri, mi, a, ku". There are pretty much 48 characters to learn.

If you know each character, you can sound out the words. You can easily communicate with Hiragana if you do not know the Kanji for the word, but if you try to write out entire sentences and paragraphs in Hiragana, it might just look all mashed together, like if I weretotypelikethisandyoumightnotunderstanditsoeasily. Because they don't space words. Hiragana is also used when there isn't any kanji equivalent.

Katakana is also extremely easy to learn. It's also only 48 characters and each character represents a different sound. The only time katakana is used, though, is typically when spelling out foreign words, country names, and personal foreign names. Also onomatopoeia words, and company names. So if it isn't originally Japanese, it's probably written in Katakana.

Annnd Kanji. Kanji are Chinese characters. The Japanese government published a list of about 2,298 kanji characters that are called "Jōyō kanji", or kanji for general use that all high schoolers need to know before graduating. These are the most common kanji used in media publications, but it's said that if you want to read more specialized publications, you may need to know about 2 - 3,000 more kanji.

Kanji is taught by grade, I believe 1st graders learn 80 kanji characters, then 2nd graders learn another portion, and so on throughout grades so it is divided up each grade level until all 2,000+ characters are taught.

Unlike hiragana and katakana, though, each kanji does not represent its own unique sound. This is what makes kanji difficult. Each character represents an actual word, not a sound.

Here are some examples:

Hiragana:




Katakana:




Kanji by Grade (1st Grade Page):

http://japanese.about.com/library/blkodgrade1.htm

So, from the hiragana list, you can see that sushi is made up of (su)す and (shi)し or すし ! Or "karate" is (ka) か - (ra) ら - (te) て or からて!

And katakana is very simple--America for instance is (a)ア (me)メ (ri)リ (ka)カ-- アメリカ !

Just thought that it's an interesting thing to know how languages work, even if you don't actually plan on learning the language itself. I can read hiragana and am going to start learning kanji the grade school way just because. Oh, and katakana as well, but that won't take long to memorize.
 

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BlueViolet:
I'm curious. How much Japanese do you know? I'm about to take Intermediate Japanese I when school starts back up. I took a year off of school and my Japanese is really rusty.
 
Kokoro said:
BlueViolet:
I'm curious. How much Japanese do you know? I'm about to take Intermediate Japanese I when school starts back up. I took a year off of school and my Japanese is really rusty.

I can speak it pretty conversationally... I know a lot more words than I can grammatically put together, if that makes sense. I'm not great with verb conjugation stuff yet, but I know enough words to understand what someone is trying to say to me and to communicate like a small child if I don't know how to word something right, "Small. White. Cat. Eat. Big. Fish!"

lol. This thread motivated me to go ahead and start studying more, though. Out of all the languages I've studied, it's the most beautiful one in my opinion. I decided to go ahead and study kanji by grade level to help improve my vocabulary and try to learn more about grammar rules. I'm planning on trying to go get an apartment close to Osaka for about three months (tourist visa, yup) while I finish up my degree sometime this year.
 
AllisonWilder said:
God said:
Poker_Babe said:
I'm wondering how good are Lucy Lui's and Uma Therma's Japanese???

probably at least as good as you spell their names.

Hi God! I noticed that you've been awfully judgmental in a couple of threads today about spelling and grammar. Perhaps you should take a look at your own typing as the first letter of sentences are meant to be capitalized. :thumbleft:

i hope this wasn't your attempt at not making any spelling or grammar mistakes.
 
God said:
AllisonWilder said:
God said:
Poker_Babe said:
I'm wondering how good are Lucy Lui's and Uma Therma's Japanese???

probably at least as good as you spell their names.

Hi God! I noticed that you've been awfully judgmental in a couple of threads today about spelling and grammar. Perhaps you should take a look at your own typing as the first letter of sentences are meant to be capitalized. :thumbleft:

i hope this wasn't your attempt at not making any spelling or grammar mistakes.
It is better to keep your mouth closed and let people think you are a fool than to open it and remove all doubt.-- Mark Twain
 
JerryBoBerry said:
AllisonWilder said:
God said:
Poker_Babe said:
I'm wondering how good are Lucy Lui's and Uma Therma's Japanese???

probably at least as good as you spell their names.

Hi God! I noticed that you've been awfully judgmental in a couple of threads today about spelling and grammar. Perhaps you should take a look at your own typing as the first letter of sentences are meant to be capitalized. :thumbleft:
With so many devices used to type messages on a forum now you never know if it's bad spelling, hitting a wrong key (that are so damned small now), auto-correct, someone using English as a 2nd language... The list is long. Generally there's no point to pointing out errors in a post that you can read and understand.

Usually I reserve that for those who habitually correct others posts. They had better be letter perfect in their grammar, spelling and punctuation or I slam it home on them fast. Glass houses and all that shit.

i guess i did overlook the fact that people can use spell-check. i never use it because it's not helpful to me.
 
BlueViolet said:
lol. This thread motivated me to go ahead and start studying more, though. Out of all the languages I've studied, it's the most beautiful one in my opinion. I decided to go ahead and study kanji by grade level to help improve my vocabulary and try to learn more about grammar rules. I'm planning on trying to go get an apartment close to Osaka for about three months (tourist visa, yup) while I finish up my degree sometime this year.

Lucky duck ^-^ I plan on studying in Japan sometime within the next two years. My major is International studies with a minor in Japanese studies, so it's kind of necessary that I study abroad. The university that my school does the study abroad program with is also in Osaka.
 
Kokoro said:
BlueViolet said:
lol. This thread motivated me to go ahead and start studying more, though. Out of all the languages I've studied, it's the most beautiful one in my opinion. I decided to go ahead and study kanji by grade level to help improve my vocabulary and try to learn more about grammar rules. I'm planning on trying to go get an apartment close to Osaka for about three months (tourist visa, yup) while I finish up my degree sometime this year.

Lucky duck ^-^ I plan on studying in Japan sometime within the next two years. My major is International studies with a minor in Japanese studies, so it's kind of necessary that I study abroad. The university that my school does the study abroad program with is also in Osaka.

That's awesome, my would-be-sister-in-law did a study abroad program in Osaka as well and had an amazing time. I think she was majoring in Japanese studies.

I think it will be a really exciting experience and I'm just looking for a change of pace and some creative inspiration. :)
 
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