If I were to become a cam girl

[SaffronBurke]

People don't want to trust their money in a bank that hires ex-cons for example.

It's funny you mention that, because Wells Fargo, despite all their flaws, do hire people with records, provided they didn't commit something like fraud, theft, or embezzlement. Drugs? No problem.

 

[babyfaceforever]

I dream of a career in healthcare, and have never even considered that camming might hinder that.
If I really was confronted about it, I'd say that it was a source of income while I was in grad school. Cuz, psst, it's true.
If a patient didn't want to be my patient because of that, it's my expertise and guidance that they'd be missing. They could go see another specialist. Other than a bit of soreness, I don't think it would have much of a negative impact on either party.



But maybe this is wishful thinking.

Anyway, OP, I say do what you wanna do. Sex work is stigmatized, yes, but hella qualified and talented professionals that happen to have been in sex work may help to kick bias in the nuts.

 

[Carmita Bonita]

I think also even with anti discrimination laws (which I've never seen being applied to sex workers) your employers may not fire you for being a sex worker, but they sure as hell can make you uncomfortable enough to quit on your own which is what happened to me. Told one friend/coworker I knew for years I was a camgirl, she spread rumors making vague references about my job to the bosses, bosses were jehovahs witnesses who started interrogating every employee separately about what I do on the side and started saying I was an escort/being weird to the point that I felt pushed out and no longer wanted to be there.

It could affect your future OP or it could not. I wish we could offer you more assurance about it.

 

[Serenity_Tam]

Anyway, OP, I say do what you wanna do. Sex work is stigmatized, yes, but hella qualified and talented professionals that happen to have been in sex work may help to kick bias in the nuts.

This is very much wishful thinking.

There is absolutely no law in place in most US states and canadian provinces that prohibits employers from firing you because you were a sex worker. Even if there were and you did not put it on your resume they can fire you for being a liar liar pants on fire. Shit in quite a few US states a company can fire you because you wore a yellow shirt to work and they just do not like yellow at the place of employment.

There was a 74 year old woman FIRED in Montreal over a nude film she was in when she was 20. This was maybe a couple of years ago. If you are worried about this job affecting your future DO NOT do it. What you really want to do with your life is not worth ruining over the hopes you wont get found out or fired. I know it sucks knowing this job has so much potential to make life a bit easier while you are in school or going for that career you want ... but you can not life in a fantasy world of maybe things will change, or maybe people will not know. Live in reality. Be smart with your future. YOu might be a fucking BOSS educator or lawyer but if that dream company is choosing between a slut and the virgin mary they are taking the virgin mary. Mary looks good for business. Slutty mcSLutFace does not project a good image. There is literally no sugar coating.

Many careers - law enforcement, some medical professions, and many in the field of education have morality clauses that would cause you to have to wait a certain number of years after retiring from SW or bar you from employment entirely.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

QUOTE="Serenity_Tam, post: 794263, member: 8187"]There is absolutely no law in place in most US states and canadian provinces that prohibits employers from firing you because you were a sex worker. Even if there were and you did not put it on your resume they can fire you for being a liar liar pants on fire. Shit in quite a few US states a company can fire you because you wore a yellow shirt to work and they just do not like yellow at the place of employment.[/QUOTE]


Absolutely correct. Not sure in Canada what the term is, but in America the majority of jobs are hired as 'At Will Employment.' Which means there is no reason whatsoever needed. You can just be terminated. Therefore discrimination doesn't even come into play unless the employer is stupid and purposely mentions something about your race or religion or whatever on the record.

If they are smart and just say we no longer need you...you're gone. Nothing you can do about it. They can fire you any time they please on a whim, because that is usually right in your employment papers you sign when you are hired. You've already agreed to it. So being found out as a former sex worker may be the reason, but it doesn't play any effect because they don't have to give a reason.

The rational behind that is you also have the exact same right. You can quit at any time without reason if you are hired that way. So if it's legal for you, it's legal for them since corporations are also considered a single individual with the exact same rights under the eyes of the law.

 

[Minase]

just deny it when your employer discovered your videos.

 

[Guy]

Are LGBT people less likely to discriminate against sex workers?

 

[Moros1138]

Are LGBT people less likely to discriminate against sex workers?

My sister is lesbian and judges me for the fact that I work with cam models. I can only imagine how she'd be towards me if I was a model myself! That's my experience with the LGBTQ community and my contribution to sex workers. Your mileage may(most likely) vary depending on the kinda people you associate with.

 

[heybarkeep]

just deny it when your employer discovered your videos.

Denying video evidence probably isn't the best idea but it could lead to some pretty hilarious and wacky scenarios and conversations.

 

[Guy]

My sister is lesbian and judges me for the fact that I work with cam models. I can only imagine how she'd be towards me if I was a model myself! That's my experience with the LGBTQ community and my contribution to sex workers. Your mileage may(most likely) vary depending on the kinda people you associate with.

Why is she agianst the camming industry?

 

[Moros1138]

Why is she agianst the camming industry?

not the camming industry, sex work in general.. and i don't know her reason and frankly i don't care. she's the only one in my family (that i associate with) who has anything against it.. my parents, my brother, my step sister, a few aunts and uncles all know what i do and i am blessed to be able to say that they accept me without judgement.

 

[Guy]

not the camming industry, sex work in general.. and i don't know her reason and frankly i don't care. she's the only one in my family (that i associate with) who has anything against it.. my parents, my brother, my step sister, a few aunts and uncles all know what i do and i am blessed to be able to say that they accept me without judgement.

I was just wondering if she was an anti-pornography feminist.

 

[Moros1138]

I was just wondering if she was an anti-pornography feminist.

I can't speak to that. I can tell you that for some reason she doesn't get that it's not a smart idea to full-on make out with her partner on the premises of her workplace. Also, she doesn't seem to understand that employers can fire, and have fired, her for doing it! *smh*

 

[babyfaceforever]

Are LGBT people less likely to discriminate against sex workers?

Just wondering, what makes you ask? I feel like LGBTQ communities and sex work communities are unrelated, but there may be some crossover (as with anything).

 

[SMuser69]

I was just wondering if she was an anti-pornography feminist.

You don't have to be LGBTQ to be a feminist.

I could ballpark your question into, "Do people in a minority group discriminate against other groups?". Then the answer would be yes. Discrimination and hate isn't a exclusive to majority groups only.

 

[MsRoxieBabe]

I think also even with anti discrimination laws (which I've never seen being applied to sex workers) your employers may not fire you for being a sex worker, but they sure as hell can make you uncomfortable enough to quit on your own which is what happened to me. Told one friend/coworker I knew for years I was a camgirl, she spread rumors making vague references about my job to the bosses, bosses were jehovahs witnesses who started interrogating every employee separately about what I do on the side and started saying I was an escort/being weird to the point that I felt pushed out and no longer wanted to be there.

It could affect your future OP or it could not. I wish we could offer you more assurance about it.

I told a coworker while I was drinking at her house. Next thing you know it got around my job. And I'm a cook in rl, I got this order wrong and this snooty waitress was mocking me was like oh instead of working on being a better cook, I'm going to keep being mediocre cook and , screw up an order here and there and go home and night and go fuck myself. I was Delete repeated word thinking f u byotch, I'm a college girl I work full time cooking, go to college, life on my own and struggle with chronic fatigue syndrome, and poor health. do to past chronic medical conditions I recovered from after a couple surgeries. I choose to be a cam girl to help have a more relaxing outlet since my rl job is high volume high stress, its nice that my side hustle I can sit in my bed Being that I'm not psychically strong again yet..

 

[Guy]

Just wondering, what makes you ask? I feel like LGBTQ communities and sex work communities are unrelated, but there may be some crossover (as with anything).

You don't have to be LGBTQ to be a feminist.

I could ballpark your question into, "Do people in a minority group discriminate against other groups?". Then the answer would be yes. Discrimination and hate isn't a exclusive to majority groups only.

The Advocate and multiple Californian LGBT organizations opposed Proposition 60.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

just deny it when your employer discovered your videos.

Denying video evidence probably isn't the best idea but it could lead to some pretty hilarious and wacky scenarios and conversations.

Boss: Hey, I found 148 videos of you on pornhub. We need to talk about your future here at the company.

Secretary: I'm not sure what you're talking about. I've never made videos for pornhub.

Boss:

Look, this double dong anal video shows the mole on your arm right there. This oil dancing one you can see the rings on your fingers are the same ones you have on now. The cake sitting video you mention you'd prefer it if that was your bosses face being smooshed, and you used my name.

This car video where you're going down on a stick shift is the company provided car. Look you can see it in the parking lot here from the window. And this one you filmed in this very room!

This is you, just admit it. You've been caught red handed.
​

Secretary: Uh...

 

[Lelo1]

If a future employer ever confronted me about a video he/she found on the internet I would lie my ass off and say it was a sexy Skype session with and ex boyfriend who decided to post it on the internet for revenge after we broke up.

I guess that works, if your not asking for tips. And or calling some one by a internet name. But a recording of a MFC model is probable going to contain tip sounds, them asking for tips, reaching goals. Talking to a bunch of different people.

I some times see people wearing masks. I assume that's so they can be anonymous.

 

[Minase]

Boss: Hey, I found 148 videos of you on pornhub. We need to talk about your future here at the company.

Secretary: I'm not sure what you're talking about. I've never made videos for pornhub.

Boss:

Look, this double dong anal video shows the mole on your arm right there. This oil dancing one you can see the rings on your fingers are the same ones you have on now. The cake sitting video you mention you'd prefer it if that was your bosses face being smooshed, and you used my name.

This car video where you're going down on a stick shift is the company provided car. Look you can see it in the parking lot here from the window. And this one you filmed in this very room!

This is you, just admit it. You've been caught red handed.
​

Secretary: Uh...

just tell them that person in pornhub is someone closer to my looks they will not know that it is you as long u did not put your true name or true birth date and address on your cam profile or it was not written on the pornhub video.

 

[Guy]

I guess that works, if your not asking for tips. And or calling some one by a internet name. But a recording of a MFC model is probable going to contain tip sounds, them asking for tips, reaching goals. Talking to a bunch of different people.

I some times see people wearing masks. I assume that's so they can be anonymous.

Even with a mask you're still not anonymous. People can still recognize you from your voice, birth marks, and tattoos. You can't be completely anonymous on the internet. Even if you're using Tor or a VPN.

 

[cherrybomb1111]

I guess that works, if your not asking for tips. And or calling some one by a internet name. But a recording of a MFC model is probable going to contain tip sounds, them asking for tips, reaching goals. Talking to a bunch of different people.

I some times see people wearing masks. I assume that's so they can be anonymous.

yes this is assuming this is a recorded private shows without tip sounds. Lol. I mean in all reality there are risks. We may not like it but it's there. Hopefully none of us will ever struggle with finding a good job if we so choose to leave camming. Live long and prosper my fellow cam models.

 

[Empress Mika]

would it hinder me from scoring a job as a flight attendant and/or cruise worker (i.e. kitchen staff in a restaurant on a cruise, gift shop cashier on a cruise, etc)

The fact that you even have to ask should be your answer. Could you get hired? Maybe. But, even then, you will have to mentally live every single day of your life wondering, "What if?" and "When?" When will be the day someone finds out I used to cam? What if someone found my recorded shows? Even if you went your whole career with no one finding out, it wouldn't save you from that mental stress. At least, this is how it would be for me.

As others have stated, do not cam if you're worried about others finding out or have another future in mind.

 

[Snowie1969]

It's funny you mention that, because Wells Fargo, despite all their flaws, do hire people with records, provided they didn't commit something like fraud, theft, or embezzlement. Drugs? No problem.

Oh the irony of Wells Fargo...

 

[JerryBoBerry]

It's funny you mention that, because Wells Fargo, despite all their flaws, do hire people with records, provided they didn't commit something like fraud, theft, or embezzlement. Drugs? No problem.

Use to work for a large multi billion dollar bank in Minnesota. They did this also. Some larger corporations are willing to hire people with records due to Federal Bonding. It guarantees the first 6 months of employment will be smooth. If someone does steal from that company, it's insured against that loss.

The bank I worked for did that for all new employees. I've never been arrested for anything, but even I was bonded.

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[heybarkeep]

just tell them that person in pornhub is someone closer to my looks they will not know that it is you as long u did not put your true name or true birth date and address on your cam profile or it was not written on the pornhub video.

 

[penfold_43]

This has been an interesting read. Employment law is very different here. Where I live, summoning a permanent employee to the managers office and telling them "I saw you on pornhub last night, you're fired" will see the employer lose at an employment tribunal and having to pay damages, which could amount to a year's salary (or more - depends on a number of factors). There have been cases here where people have been dismissed for porn appearances, but the cases I recall have been where they have used the employer's uniform as part of the performance that lead to the dismissal and the contract of employment had a clause about bringing the employer into disrepute (or similar), so the use of the uniform created enough of a link to the employer to allow the clause to be triggered. Certainly I know there have been cases where schoolteachers have been discovered to have done nude modelling to pay their way through university and while a bit of a scandal in sections of the tabloid press, it has not been a valid reason for dismissal. Similarly, making that person's life hell at work so they quit (either the employer directly, or co-workers doing it and the employer does not intervene to stop it) would be considered constructive dismissal, and again potentially lead to significant damages being awarded to the employee.

So, it absolutely would not bother me if somoene turned up at my workplace for interview for a graduate programmer position (aside from our admin person we are all programmers, so we won't be hiring anyone to do anything else) and I recognised her from MFC. I'd only be concerned that an interviewee can write good code, not if she sometimes shows her boobs on the internet in her spare time. Because why would that matter? It wouldn't, it's completely irrelevant to the position being offered. What would annoy me is if I had to explain the correct use of pointers to someone that said they could write 'C' ...

 

[alegendawaits]

If a future employer ever confronted me about a video he/she found on the internet I would lie my ass off and say it was a sexy Skype session with and ex boyfriend who decided to post it on the internet for revenge after we broke up. I didn't know he was recording me... And I shouldn't be held accountable for someone else exposing something about me that is perfectly natural and was SUPPOSED to be private.

Love this idea, with the exception of the obviousity of asking for tips, tip note sounds, screenshots with me on mfc, etc. HOWEVER, if hypothetically I was questioned "Hey I saw your video(s) where you were fingering yourself" I COULD use this!!! I couldn't use this, however if the employer said it like " Hey I saw your video where you were asking for tips to finger yourself " yada yada yada... Just because somebody comes across SOMETHING doesn't mean that they found EVERYTHING...

Prejudice towards sex workers could be due to the fact that sex itself is still partially taboo in our society.
The subject of sex tends to make many people feel uncomfortable and is something that is widely considered to be personal and private.

It's funny, isn't it? The fact that some things are becoming more socially acceptable as well as taboo at the same time. Scroll down facebook, you see nasty memes all the time nowadays. But the workplace discrimination stays in tact.

Almost makes me think about how black culture is popular, but black people are not. (I'm caucasian, just using an example)

Sad. Very fucking SAD.

Boss: Hey, I found 148 videos of you on pornhub. We need to talk about your future here at the company.

Secretary: I'm not sure what you're talking about. I've never made videos for pornhub.

Boss:

Look, this double dong anal video shows the mole on your arm right there. This oil dancing one you can see the rings on your fingers are the same ones you have on now. The cake sitting video you mention you'd prefer it if that was your bosses face being smooshed, and you used my name.

This car video where you're going down on a stick shift is the company provided car. Look you can see it in the parking lot here from the window. And this one you filmed in this very room!

This is you, just admit it. You've been caught red handed.
​

Secretary: Uh...

I LOLed so hard!! OMFG!!!!! But yeah... guys I'm thinking about actually doing it. My reason being is that my original intention was actually to be COMPLETELY natural on cam. I've decided against that. I'm planning on getting tattoos which would be highly recognizable, and because of that some of you may tell me "DOOO NOTTT DOOO ITTT" but I've decided that whilst camming and ONLY whilst camming, I will cover up my tattoos with foundation as well as wear a wig. I'll also find some other drastic shit to make me look different, I'm always looking up weird hacks and shit, so I know I'll find WAY more I can do to myself other than just cover my tats and throw a wig on. As for my voice, I'm not too worried tbh, that only means I have to change my appearance ENOUGH, meaning MORE, but I feel as though the 'hella getting ready effort' is worth it tbh. Getting crazily dolled up gives me a boost of confidence, actually.

I guess that works, if your not asking for tips. And or calling some one by a internet name. But a recording of a MFC model is probable going to contain tip sounds, them asking for tips, reaching goals. Talking to a bunch of different people.

I some times see people wearing masks. I assume that's so they can be anonymous.

That's the "UGH" of the what ifs...

Like I said, I am considering going through, honestly. I just need to take more steps to ensure my privacy than I was originally going to. I'm thinking about not even saying my real birthday, and only telling people my star sign. If I need to set a date for an input field, I'll just use the first day that my star sign starts (which is July 22nd, but that is SOOO not my actual bday)