[Idea] Crowdfunding Cam Girls

[crowdcamming]

Hello all,

I'm new to this forum and have been heavily involved in crowdfunding industry with reading up on it and connecting with the proper connections to see this idea through. I wanted to present an idea to you that might be flawed or it might not. Recently, we the new Jobs Act signed in to law by Obama. (http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_...gns-jobs-act-into-law-calls-it-a-game-changer/)

It gives a chance for people to invest in company's. Of course, there has always been Kickstarter's of the world but this is different.

How you ask?

People can now give you $50, $100, $1,000 + dollars to help fund your webcamming. In return, they get a small equity stake in your success as a web cam model. So if you gave everyone a 2 percent equity stake then you would give back a bit of what you earn in return. So the obvious question is would this work for someone like yourself?

The way I invision it is Joe & Mary and whomever can put in $50, $100 , $200 each to help you buy updated webcamming equipment or pay for your costs of webhosting (if you do private shows on your own server) or maybe its advertising you need to pay for. It might really work for someone who wants to get into webcamming.

I wanted to open the discussion to see if there is validity to this idea and get your feedback as to what you could use it for.

As for create a platform like this its pretty doable to do.

So any thoughts or feedback is much appreciated and love this forum! been browsing around. :-D

 

[crowdcamming]

[More info] I should have added you could tap your current user base to help fund your webcam modeling. So it's like "shares" in you . So you would say I have 500 shares at $85 a share/or name your share price = $42,500 investment in you.

or this idea could be..

A general fund for which all webcamming girls can come to get $$ for whatever expense they might have - in return they give up a little equity share ( sort of a loan for you) .

Just thinking outside the box :-D

 

[Shaun__]

I have already bought several cameras for models that I like for free, and my reward was getting better video quality. Giving away future earnings for things they can get for free seems short sighted.

Also if I look at it from my viewpoint as a potential investor, it seems very unsafe. I would be buying shares in a business run by a person whose legal name I did not know, in most cases. A model could sell all her shares, and then drop that account and start a knew one. I do not imagine suing someone with no known address or name is very easy.

 

[MrRodry]

There is a crowdfunding site for adult projects in the works - http://comingsoon.offbeatr.com/ I believe it is a valid option but like Shaun__ posted this share/stock thing seems unsafe to me too.

 

[crowdcamming]

Shaun__ & MrRodry,

Thank you for the feedback! So I think that is the beauty of webcamming is you really can't be anonymous in that your signed up to just about every website ( most require verification/legal name to get paid) and plus your face is plastered all over the place obviously. I guess this the answer to your "unsafe" question as investor in my opinion. With any investment it is a risk but if you are consistent webcam model enthusiast this shouldn't be an issue. Most investors would already have a webcam model they like. The way I see it is your long time clients would love to put some extra money into you to succeed so they have trust in you. As for the free issue sure if every girl is so lucky. I believe that isn't the case for every girl.

MrRodry, yes that is crowdfunding for porn shoots/on-site. This is slightly different. One thing that similar to it is that you can still add incentives.

Great feedback! I think I'll create a mock-up of what I envisioned and attach some screenshots

 

[Evvie]

The way I invision it is Joe & Mary and whomever can put in $50, $100 , $200 each to help you buy updated webcamming equipment or pay for your costs of webhosting (if you do private shows on your own server) or maybe its advertising you need to pay for. It might really work for someone who wants to get into webcamming.

There are some models who legitimately cannot buy a webcam upgrade for $50, but I feel that they represent the minority of camgirls.

I am also not aware of any model who does shows only on a private server and needs to advertise her own solo start-up site. I imagine there are many, but it doesn't seem to be very popular or common. Would you rather sign up on a huge website for free that gets hundreds of thousands of paying visitors a day, or pay for hosting and advertising costs for your own website, where you may have to be online for hours a day just to catch a customer? All the personal websites I've seen so far have been set up by established camgirls who've already spent a lot of time on sites like MFC.

It can definitely WORK for someone interested in getting in to webcamming, but other sites like MyGirlFund can help out a hell of a lot, too. And if a chick really needed a new webcam, it might not take her long to get one depending on what she's willing to trade for it.

 

[crowdcamming]

There are some models who legitimately cannot buy a webcam upgrade for $50, but I feel that they represent the minority of camgirls.

I am also not aware of any model who does shows only on a private server and needs to advertise her own solo start-up site. I imagine there are many, but it doesn't seem to be very popular or common. Would you rather sign up on a huge website for free that gets hundreds of thousands of paying visitors a day, or pay for hosting and advertising costs for your own website, where you may have to be online for hours a day just to catch a customer? All the personal websites I've seen so far have been set up by established camgirls who've already spent a lot of time on sites like MFC.

It can definitely WORK for someone interested in getting in to webcamming, but other sites like MyGirlFund can help out a hell of a lot, too. And if a chick really needed a new webcam, it might not take her long to get one depending on what she's willing to trade for it.

Thanks Evvie! you could be right I guess I was thinking of the webcam models who go solo in a sense but you are right that is few and far between so your point is taken. I mean maybe there isn't "needs" of a webcam model where this fits? I guess if you had a chance to get funded $50,000 dollars maybe you don't need that much? MyGirlFund is a good place you are right I guess I was looking further out for webcam girls who really want to do this for a living I don't know or maybe this is designed for the girl who does want to go "solo" and could use it to drive traffic to her site. I guess that's why I'm here exploring the idea.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

I just don't think setup costs are enough to provide a need for this. When I started camming I had only a built in webcam, shitty little laptop and very little toys. With a small 'drive' pushing a wishlist with rewards, I soon had a memberbase that were buying me cameras, toys, outfits and helping fundraise for me to get OUT of the crappy place I was living. As I made more money, I could buy more things. You do not NEED all these things to start out if you use your fanbase to generate the items.

Interesting idea, it just won't pan out I don't think.

 

[ThePioneer]

I see very few instances where an idea like this might be useful. Issuing equity when the entry costs are very low and the earnings potential is high is a TERRIBLE idea from the perspective of a model. I also think it's fair to say that a major reason why models chose to cam is for financial independence.

 

[AedanRayne]

While it sounds like a good idea, I fear that there is a big downside on the models end. There are very controlling individuals in our world and they might feel a sense of power after putting in an "investment" and owning stock in a model. This could lead them to dictating what a model does in her shows, when she's working, etc. That's the last thing a new model needs when she's trying to figure it out for herself. She might end up feeling like she has to do this guy's every command in order to be successful and that she owes him the world for getting her started.

The alternative that might work is an adult site similar to kickstarter where a model could designate what a donor gets for x amount of $ (signed photo, video, panties, etc - if the goal is made). I feel that it's less of a power trip for the donating member if they get a physical product instead of feeling as if they own a share of the model('s work). Just my :twocents-02cents:

EDIT - rereading over the "kickstarter" idea I wrote down leads me to think it wouldn't work. :lol: What would keep any girl from signing up, claiming she's going to begin camming just to scam over guys to get new stuff / money? scratch that idea

 

[crowdcamming]

I just don't think setup costs are enough to provide a need for this. When I started camming I had only a built in webcam, shitty little laptop and very little toys. With a small 'drive' pushing a wishlist with rewards, I soon had a memberbase that were buying me cameras, toys, outfits and helping fundraise for me to get OUT of the crappy place I was living. As I made more money, I could buy more things. You do not NEED all these things to start out if you use your fanbase to generate the items.

Interesting idea, it just won't pan out I don't think.

Thanks. Yes, figured the "wish-list" is the way to go - then once your established you had clients covering it all for you so I guess the bottom-line is the money isn't need up-front or at least that amount of money. Maybe, I should re-think it and do more of kickstarter type site with incentives I know mygirlfund is in this space but they seem disorganized with the pages. I think this idea equity-based fund a webcam model isn't ready for prime-time or there isn't a need.

I appreciate your feedback! I'm going to try a different take on this and mock-up something since I'm bored lol

 

[crowdcamming]

The alternative that might work is an adult site similar to kickstarter where a model could designate what a donor gets for x amount of $ (signed photo, video, panties, etc - if the goal is made). I feel that it's less of a power trip for the donating member if they get a physical product instead of feeling as if they own a share of a model('s work). Just my my :twocents-02cents:

EDIT - rereading over the "kickstarter" idea I wrote down leads me to think it wouldn't work. What would keep any girl from signing up, claiming she's going to begin camming just to scam over guys to get new stuff / money? scratch that idea

[repsonse to the edit] You aren't allowed to change your mind! JK I suppose how is it any different then a mygirlfund girl doing the same thing in other words signing up and getting contributions and never delivering the goods i.e. videos, panties etc.,etc.,.

Thanks, I just wrote that in my last post I couldn't agree more. ^^ I will mock-up something around these lines since there really isn't to much of this out there so far and seems more plausible to the needs of you girls.

I guess the only reason it seemed attractive to "own shares" of a model is that you feel as if your part of their success in that sense but since the barrier to entry is so low to start out with as mentioned above ( start-up costs) the idea isn't even needed unless your some major webcamming model and want to strike-out on your own which is rare.

 

[Evvie]

There are some models who legitimately cannot buy a webcam upgrade for $50, but I feel that they represent the minority of camgirls.

I am also not aware of any model who does shows only on a private server and needs to advertise her own solo start-up site. I imagine there are many, but it doesn't seem to be very popular or common. Would you rather sign up on a huge website for free that gets hundreds of thousands of paying visitors a day, or pay for hosting and advertising costs for your own website, where you may have to be online for hours a day just to catch a customer? All the personal websites I've seen so far have been set up by established camgirls who've already spent a lot of time on sites like MFC.

It can definitely WORK for someone interested in getting in to webcamming, but other sites like MyGirlFund can help out a hell of a lot, too. And if a chick really needed a new webcam, it might not take her long to get one depending on what she's willing to trade for it.

Thanks Evvie! you could be right I guess I was thinking of the webcam models who go solo in a sense but you are right that is few and far between so your point is taken. I mean maybe there isn't "needs" of a webcam model where this fits? I guess if you had a chance to get funded $50,000 dollars maybe you don't need that much? MyGirlFund is a good place you are right I guess I was looking further out for webcam girls who really want to do this for a living I don't know or maybe this is designed for the girl who does want to go "solo" and could use it to drive traffic to her site. I guess that's why I'm here exploring the idea.

First... what?

Second, I don't think models who use MyGirlFund aren't "serious" and don't want to do this for a living... I am curious as to why you think MGF models are not working for a living?

 

[crowdcamming]

First... what?

Second, I don't think models who use MyGirlFund aren't "serious" and don't want to do this for a living... I am curious as to why you think MGF models are not working for a living?

I thought you made it sound like MGF girls just go on there to pick up new webcams and the things they need like its a place to get "quick cash" not make your living from the website - maybe I interpreted you wrong ? If I did my mistake. I believe you can make a living from MGF.

 

[js423]

Of course the girls on MGF are working for a living. It's hard to keep constantly thinking of new "woe is me" stories to get guys to buy a $5 picture set or something similar.

 

[SatanJonez]

It's good to see the whole "this or that within the sex industry couldn't possibly be a real job" vibe still survives around here. :|

 

[sweetiebatman]

Can I pay in bitcoins? :lol: :thumbleft:

 

[Anonymous]

Can I pay in bitcoins? :lol: :thumbleft:

Okay totally off-topic but I find the concept of Bitcoins absolutely fascinating.


Minus the whole "using them to pay for CP and drugs and hitmen" thing.

 

[crowdcamming]

Can I pay in bitcoins? :lol: :thumbleft:

It's funny I remember that the funny thing is bitcoin has sored in price lol

By the end of the day probably will up further

 

[crowdcamming]

Can I pay in bitcoins? :lol: :thumbleft:

Okay totally off-topic but I find the concept of Bitcoins absolutely fascinating.


Minus the whole "using them to pay for CP and drugs and hitmen" thing.

I believe with cash you can do the same? Correct me if I'm wrong.

 

[AmberCutie]

I appreciated the bitcoins joke, but if this thread turns into a discussion about it I'm going to freak the fuck out. Don't do it.

 

[crowdcamming]

I appreciated the bitcoins joke, but if this thread turns into a discussion about it I'm going to freak the fuck out. Don't do it.

Lol what are you scared of? So far it looks like all the anti-bitcoiners have been wrong. In fact, a few of your forum members use it now is something wrong with them?

 

[SatanJonez]

I appreciated the bitcoins joke, but if this thread turns into a discussion about it I'm going to freak the fuck out. Don't do it.

Lol what are you scared of? So far it looks like all the anti-bitcoiners have been wrong.

It's her forum, she can basically say "No one use the word 'potato' or I'll kick all your asses" and be in the right.

 

[AmberCutie]

I appreciated the bitcoins joke, but if this thread turns into a discussion about it I'm going to freak the fuck out. Don't do it.

Lol what are you scared of? So far it looks like all the anti-bitcoiners have been wrong. In fact, a few of your forum members use it something wrong with them?

We had a very multi-page thread about it already and we're pretty much done with that discussion. This thread does not need to be derailed with it.

Please and thank you.

 

[crowdcamming]

I appreciated the bitcoins joke, but if this thread turns into a discussion about it I'm going to freak the fuck out. Don't do it.

Lol what are you scared of? So far it looks like all the anti-bitcoiners have been wrong. In fact, a few of your forum members use it something wrong with them?

We had a very multi-page thread about it already and we're pretty much done with that discussion. This thread does not need to be derailed with it.

Please and thank you.

Fair enough. I think you owe an explanation to the forum members who use bitcoin as to what is wrong with them using it. You can't walk away from a thread saying you aren't allowed to talk about something with no explanation right? I've paid many girls in bitcoin and I'm not a pedo or drug user an find it disturbing people can't talk about a subject with explanation but maybe that is for another time.

 

[SatanJonez]

 

[AmberCutie]

I appreciated the bitcoins joke, but if this thread turns into a discussion about it I'm going to freak the fuck out. Don't do it.

Lol what are you scared of? So far it looks like all the anti-bitcoiners have been wrong. In fact, a few of your forum members use it something wrong with them?

We had a very multi-page thread about it already and we're pretty much done with that discussion. This thread does not need to be derailed with it.

Please and thank you.

Fair enough. I think you owe explanation to the forum members who use bitcoin as to what is wrong with them using it. You can't walk away from a thread saying you aren't allowed to talk about something with no explanation right?

I should have realized already by your defensiveness and insistence on bringing up the topic that you're actually the same person who was posting the bitcoin discussions. :hello2: Hello goldiloxx!

Moving on! Get back on topic of the OP or I'll lock it. Again, please and thank you.

 

[SatanJonez]

I appreciated the bitcoins joke, but if this thread turns into a discussion about it I'm going to freak the fuck out. Don't do it.

Lol what are you scared of? So far it looks like all the anti-bitcoiners have been wrong. In fact, a few of your forum members use it something wrong with them?

We had a very multi-page thread about it already and we're pretty much done with that discussion. This thread does not need to be derailed with it.

Please and thank you.

Fair enough. I think you owe explanation to the forum members who use bitcoin as to what is wrong with them using it. You can't walk away from a thread saying you aren't allowed to talk about something with no explanation right?

I should have realized already by your defensiveness and insistence on bringing up the topic that you're actually the same person who was posting the bitcoin discussions. :hello2: Hello goldiloxx!

Moving on! Get back on topic of the OP or I'll lock it. Again, please and thank you.

CALLED IT! Ha! Damn.

 

[AmberCutie]

I'm not a pedo or drug user an find it disturbing people can't talk about a subject with explanation but maybe that is for another time.

Another time, yes, that other thread that it was discussed heavily in. It's already done.

 

[crowdcamming]

I appreciated the bitcoins joke, but if this thread turns into a discussion about it I'm going to freak the fuck out. Don't do it.

Lol what are you scared of? So far it looks like all the anti-bitcoiners have been wrong. In fact, a few of your forum members use it something wrong with them?

We had a very multi-page thread about it already and we're pretty much done with that discussion. This thread does not need to be derailed with it.

Please and thank you.

Fair enough. I think you owe explanation to the forum members who use bitcoin as to what is wrong with them using it. You can't walk away from a thread saying you aren't allowed to talk about something with no explanation right?

I should have realized already by your defensiveness and insistence on bringing up the topic that you're actually the same person who was posting the bitcoin discussions. :hello2: Hello goldiloxx!

Moving on! Get back on topic of the OP or I'll lock it. Again, please and thank you.[/]


So I guess I'm defensive for asking an explanation of why is it's wrong with using bitcoins and no not that person ? Sounds like you got defensive when I asked you to clear it up to the forum members who use it and keep getting called we are bad people for it and banned for talking about it!? Lol wtf