HUGE reduction in tippers/privates

[alexa7]

What I have heard in both Lounges is this: Members are tired of unrealistic goals set by models for public shows. Members tip for shows that never get done because the goals are too high or there is not enough time given to acquire the goal and those who have tipped just lose their money. I have never seen a model refund tips when a show was not done. So members quit tipping until it is evident that a show is possible. As you know, when the goal is close, all of a sudden the tips increase. If models want more tips all they have to do is set lower goals for shows and do more shows. Does anyone know of any other situation in life where a person pays toward something, and if that something does not occur, he loses the money he has paid? Maybe MFC should set an amount for all models for all shows so the members know what to expect when they enter a room and see a count.

This is why I don't do public shows, just gradually get naked as tips roll in. I am upfront that if you want to see more than private is the way to go, so you can have me all to yourself. Now lets say I have some bigger tippers who are being super awesome to me, I am always sure to send them a video, on top of what they wanted in public. I like showing the guys who are good to me that I appreciate them.

 

[Red7227]

I can't sit on cam 24 hours a day to try to compensate for it being slow, and I think that the least some of these guys could do if they are sitting in there enjoying the show, realize the fucking effort, time, and expense on our part, and tip a few tokens here and there. With the lower token packages there are no excuses and that's starting to disgust me.

When I'm broke I just stick to my regulars, because they know me well enough to know i will tip when I have the tokens. When I get some tokens I need to drop a couple hundred on Starrienights and JJ because I have been freeloading in their rooms. Starrie did a great show in free a couple weeks ago and JJ is always naked and trying to mate with her bathroom door frame whenever I see her

I also agree with Jacksharp that a lot of the targets models set are unrealistic. I never tip for those unless its a regular who I would be tipping anyway. The girls need to be doing something that is at least holding my attention during the build-up to the show and worthy of some tips anyway. Sophia is the absolute best at this with her battlestrip and jerk off jenga.

If you can't be Sophia, at least be engaging, keep the initial target low and save the action for a group show - after all, why would anyone tip when they can come back in an hour and freeload once others have met her target.

 

[lexmark402003]

This is why when I'm broke I usually hang out in Lounge1000. There I'm not taking a girls time.

I'm confused. How is "freeloading" considered "taking up a girls time?"

Unless you are making demands, you are nothing but a number- she had 87 people in the room, she now has 88.

A lot of times, I'll watch a couple of rooms while waiting for one of my favorite girls to come in. I don't make demands, I just sit back, watch, and wait. I don't see this as an "imposition" since I'm just one of dozens of people watching the show quietly.

Regarding "getting rid" of the "freeloaders," I'm not sure that's a good idea. The "free" ads drive a lot of people into the room. I was one of them.

After a couple of days of free "basic" viewing, I decided I liked the site and upgraded to the $20 premium. I had no intention of ever paying another cent.

That was hundreds of dollars ago. Had they not had the "free" ad, or had they put a limit on what you get for the $20, I never would have come to the site, and MFC and the models would have lost hundreds of dollars.

There are probably thousands of people like me. Some may stop at $20, some may spend hundreds, others thousands of dollars.

But one thing is for sure, without the "free" offer, NONE of that money would go to MFC or the models.

 

[StanislavJ]

I have something I would like to add to this. With this huge freeload fest, cricket chirping phase mfc has been going through, has a lot of us in a pinch. A lot of us girls like myself put money into to this as well, like super fast internet, our appearance ect, electricity for our billion watts of light, and child care, just to name a few. So while we are entertaining and these guys are just sucking it up for free, there are nights/days I'm paying to be there almost. I can't sit on cam 24 hours a day to try to compensate for it being slow, and I think that the least some of these guys could do if they are sitting in there enjoying the show, realize the fucking effort, time, and expense on our part, and tip a few tokens here and there. With the lower token packages there are no excuses and that's starting to disgust me.

Point well taken, Alexa. All models love big tippers, but also if everyone who spends any significant amount of time in a room just tipped something, even if it's just 5 or 10 tokens, it would add up. Some models have also said that they don't mind honest but token-poor members hanging out, as long as they are contributing something positive to the chat and overall tone of the room, and not just silently perving or making stupid or unreasonable comments or requests. I visit a couple of rooms in which the models know that I don't always have tokens to spare, but they appreciate my sense of humor and desire to help create a congenial atmosphere in which others will feel more comfortable and possibily be more inclined to tip something. That counts for something, too.

 

[Rose]

It would be nice if at the very least, there were still talkers when there were no tippers. That doesn't seem to be the case though and like alexa7, I often end up paying to work. My average cam session ends up with 10 minutes of having maybe 1 talker, 25 viewers, no tips and the other 35-60 minutes of only silence with nothing.

 

[alexa7]

I find that when theres interaction on both sides with some lighthearted convo there was never a problem getting people to tip me. Everything just always fell into place. I like to run my room very low pressure and sexy. I have always thrived in the amateurishness of this, and never did well with the "tip me tip me" attitude. I talk to everyone, no matter if you are spending or not, but my bigger spenders will always get more of my time and attention, naturally. My room isn't really a waiting area until your favorite girl comes on, don't use me as a place to plop. If that's the case and you're killing time at least engage in the room, and talk. Ask me how I am, my favorite color, I don't care, but there is a reason there is a chat aspect in the room. My whole day has revolved around getting on cam and being super sexytime for you guys, at least show me a little love, either with a little talk, or a little tip.

 

[Rose]

My whole day has revolved around getting on cam and being super sexytime for you guys, at least show me a little love, either with a little talk, or a little tip.

Even just a simple hi goes a long way. It's a lot better than letting her sit there in silence. Silent camgirls that aren't having fun are boring to watch.

 

[MadisonLeigh]

What I have heard in both Lounges is this: Members are tired of unrealistic goals set by models for public shows. Members tip for shows that never get done because the goals are too high or there is not enough time given to acquire the goal and those who have tipped just lose their money. I have never seen a model refund tips when a show was not done. So members quit tipping until it is evident that a show is possible. As you know, when the goal is close, all of a sudden the tips increase. If models want more tips all they have to do is set lower goals for shows and do more shows. Does anyone know of any other situation in life where a person pays toward something, and if that something does not occur, he loses the money he has paid? Maybe MFC should set an amount for all models for all shows so the members know what to expect when they enter a room and see a count.

We have no way of refunding tokens so that's why you've never seen a model do it. Most models are dancing, entertaining, flashing, etc when doing a countdown, and you can make a request or buy a video to ensure that you are getting more value for your tokens.

I don't think a set rate would work at all since we all have different daily goals. I would not be able to ask the same amount to do a show as a top 20 model, and I wouldn't expect her to lose out on tokens and have the same goal as me. Nor is "setting lower goals and doing more shows" necessarily a solution either, as you could very well be left with a fraction of your goal and unable to complete further countdowns. If a model's show goals are truly outrageous and she never makes them and never compensates members in any way, she will either adjust them accordingly, or members will stop tipping that specific model. Our goals are relevant to what the market will bear. Like others have said in this thread, interactive porn is a luxury, not a right.

 

[JoleneBrody]

What I have heard in both Lounges is this: Members are tired of unrealistic goals set by models for public shows. Members tip for shows that never get done because the goals are too high or there is not enough time given to acquire the goal and those who have tipped just lose their money. I have never seen a model refund tips when a show was not done. So members quit tipping until it is evident that a show is possible. As you know, when the goal is close, all of a sudden the tips increase. If models want more tips all they have to do is set lower goals for shows and do more shows. Does anyone know of any other situation in life where a person pays toward something, and if that something does not occur, he loses the money he has paid? Maybe MFC should set an amount for all models for all shows so the members know what to expect when they enter a room and see a count.

We have no way of refunding tokens so that's why you've never seen a model do it. Most models are dancing, entertaining, flashing, etc when doing a countdown, and you can make a request or buy a video to ensure that you are getting more value for your tokens.

I don't think a set rate would work at all since we all have different daily goals. I would not be able to ask the same amount to do a show as a top 20 model, and I wouldn't expect her to lose out on tokens and have the same goal as me. Nor is "setting lower goals and doing more shows" necessarily a solution either, as you could very well be left with a fraction of your goal and unable to complete further countdowns. If a model's show goals are truly outrageous and she never makes them and never compensates members in any way, she will either adjust them accordingly, or members will stop tipping that specific model. Our goals are relevant to what the market will bear. Like others have said in this thread, interactive porn is a luxury, not a right.

Here here! I dance my butt off during a countdown and am rarely in more than a bra and panties. If a girl dancing her butt off in her underwear isn't entertaining enough to deserves tips than I don't know what is.
Also, if the people "freeloading" in the lounge (yes, if you watch a girl from the lounge without tipping you are still freeloading, not having your name on the list doesn't change that) would each tip even 10 tokens towards a show countdowns might not be left unfinished. It's a vicious cycle that (for the most part) only the members can change.

It's very frustrating for us as models to watch our wonderful regulars under so much pressure to do it all themselves while 90-600 just sit there waiting for them to do it. It makes me really sad because they are so wonderful every single day and I don't want them to feel pressure to tip just because no one else will.

In other words, stop complaining, man up and show the girls some appreciation for the shows that YOU watch and we wont have these problems.

/rant

Sorry. This is not an attack on any one individual.

 

[RogueWarrior]

It's a vicious cycle that (for the most part) only the members can change.

Everything else, yes, I concur. This, I disagree. In my opinion, this is a problem that models (not necessarily anyone in particular) have created.

When a member can go to MFC 24/7/365 and find a free show within 30 seconds of logging on, why should said member break out the wallet and tip for something he can get for free? I'm not saying this is right, but the opportunity is there.

It's a catch 22. The only way to really change things is for MFC to enforce their posted rules, which I don't see happening anytime soon.

I'm upset at the current situation as well (although could never be to the degree of a model) because it brings down the quality of the entire site.

My opinion, take it as you will.

 

[JoleneBrody]

It's a vicious cycle that (for the most part) only the members can change.

Everything else, yes, I concur. This, I disagree. In my opinion, this is a problem that models (not necessarily anyone in particular) have created.

When a member can go to MFC 24/7/365 and find a free show within 30 seconds of logging on, why should said member break out the wallet and tip for something he can get for free? I'm not saying this is right, but the opportunity is there.

It's a catch 22. The only way to really change things is for MFC to enforce their posted rules, which I don't see happening anytime soon.

I'm upset at the current situation as well (although could never be to the degree of a model) because it brings down the quality of the entire site.

My opinion, take it as you will.

I see what your saying, I myself don't do public cum shows so I honestly didn't even have that in mind. What I'm saying is tip for what you ARE watching more than anything. Obviously the majority of human beings are not good humans and will run with the freebies pretty quick, but if more people would just tip for what they are currently watching that would solve the biggest problem, freeloaders, because they wouldn't be freeloading anymore.
I said "for the most part" for a reason. I'm basing my experience on my shows, which do not include any public masturbation in free chat. This is what I see and what I feel, without a dildo in my hooha. They could watch a public cum show, but they choose to watch me rub oil on my bum... and still don't tip.

Think of a strip club. You don't tip for the model to get on the stage, you tip her because she did. Our ban button is our bouncer, but if we use it this way we get called a token whore.

 

[MadisonLeigh]

They could watch a public cum show, but they choose to watch me rub oil on my bum... and still don't tip.

This. I feel like if public cum shows were the entire problem, no one would be watching more softcore shows, and models who do not do public cum shows would not be successful. But members are watching these softcore shows, and they're clearly enjoying themselves enough to stay in the room, and many of them are not contributing. It seems to me that countdowns are getting completed at the same rate whether they are for cum shows or shower/oil/etc...so that shows me that the type of show is not necessarily the problem. (But that's just my personal data from observing others and my own token records, maybe that is not the experience of other models.)

 

[RogueWarrior]

It's a vicious cycle that (for the most part) only the members can change.

Everything else, yes, I concur. This, I disagree. In my opinion, this is a problem that models (not necessarily anyone in particular) have created.

When a member can go to MFC 24/7/365 and find a free show within 30 seconds of logging on, why should said member break out the wallet and tip for something he can get for free? I'm not saying this is right, but the opportunity is there.

It's a catch 22. The only way to really change things is for MFC to enforce their posted rules, which I don't see happening anytime soon.

I'm upset at the current situation as well (although could never be to the degree of a model) because it brings down the quality of the entire site.

My opinion, take it as you will.

I see what your saying, I myself don't do public cum shows ............
Think of a strip club. You don't tip for the model to get on the stage, you tip her because she did.

I never said cum shows, I said free shows, i.e., public shows. For some, a few, many, most, (I really don't know) that may be more than enough.

As to the strip club analogy, I think that has flaws. First of all, a strip club has a cover charge, MFC does not. Secondly, a strip club usually (in my experience anyway) has a drink minimum. MFC does not (nor cannot for that matter). In the case of a strip club, both require $$$. MFC does not. Therefore, someone going into to a strip club is expecting to spend money, for MFC, not so much.

Different mentality going in.

Again, just my opinion. Take it as you will.

 

[Anonymous]

One of my regulars doesn't hide his points and he says whenever he is in my room tipping random models he has never talked to PM him talking sweet to him.

It's ridiculous how some of these models act. Marry4you pm'ed one of my tippers the other day, trying to get him to come to her room. When she's called out on it, she posts the 'middle finger' emote. No shame at all. No wonder her cam score is 209 and she only has like 4 people in her room. She just sits there smoking, and she's too lazy to actually DO SOMETHING besides pm other models' tippers.

 

[Anonymous]

Well,

Why not allow models to set the minimum required time for privates 5 , 10 , 15 minutes and any additional time is in models advantage.

I would love this.

 

[StanislavJ]

As to the strip club analogy, I think that has flaws. First of all, a strip club has a cover charge, MFC does not. Secondly, a strip club usually (in my experience anyway) has a drink minimum. MFC does not (nor cannot for that matter). In the case of a strip club, both require $$$. MFC does not. Therefore, someone going into to a strip club is expecting to spend money, for MFC, not so much.

Maybe there should be a "cover charge" of sorts. How about a set-up something like this: you enter a model's room, and get a short free ride -- maybe 2 or 3 minutes -- long enough to see the topic, read some of the chat, get a feel for the "vibe" of the room. You are then warned that if you want to stay longer, in 30 seconds a small amount -- maybe 10 tokens -- will be deducted from your account. If you choose not to stay, you are not charged. If you try to stay, but have no tokens, you are bounced, either to another random room or to the main page.

This way, if you really like a model, and want to hang out, you will have to contribute something. If 50 people choose to park in a room, even if they don't voluntarily tip above and beyond the "cover charge," the model has still earned 500 tokens. Those regulars and others who are inclined to tip more for specific requests or general appreciation anyway will likely still do so, and the games, raffles, etc. to generate more tips will still go on.

MFC could still legitmately advertise the "free" angle -- just not unlimited free. Free to browse and sample -- not free to park your ass for hours on end. Most adult sites offer a few teaser pics and/or short video samples, but you then have to pay (either per item or some sort of membership fee) to get the best stuff. This is a similar concept. Offering totally free admittance and then depending on the good graces of viewers to pay or not pay is like a grocery store having no checkouts, but just an "honor system" pay box at the exit.

Oh...and needless to say, under such a system, the lounge would either have to go, or be seriously modified. Maybe the lounge would provide randomly rotating brief glimpses of rooms, with the option to enter one available. You get an intriguing glimpse of a model; like what you see and you can enter to watch a specific model for a few more minutes; want to stay longer, the "cover charge" kicks in.

Of course, the bottom line is that nothing will change as long as Leo and his minions are raking in the profits under the current set-up -- despite the proud boasts of caring for their models and appreciating them, all but the top 100 models could leave tomorrow and the suits will still be living large. To play devil's advocate for a moment, this is hardly surprising and, some would say, inevitable. MFC's goal is to make profits, not to engineer a more equitable distribution of income to their models. The thing is, under a modified setup like what I propose, would overall site profits increase or decline? Unless they would significantly increase, no one at corporate level is going to be inclined to change anything -- the way things are now works well for them, and there is no incentive to rock the boat.

And I'm not just an innocent bystander -- I'll be the first to admit that I have benefited to a degree from the "totally free" concept, even though I do tip here and there and occasionally partake in a group show or purchase videos and etc. from models I like. (I like to joke that I'm so poor, I can't even afford to pay attention.) But having become good friends with a sexy, vibrant, funny and entertaining model who is, nonetheless, struggling far below the Top 100, I also see things through her eyes.

 

[Mfcwatchdog]

I would love this.

That way the model could do her math if i get a private and the required time is 10 minutes she get's a minimum of 600 tokens per private.But i think this is not possible on the current model software (you probably know this better then me) so that would require MFC todo some coding work and a nice extra models get rid of the "one minute" private premiums i can understand that is annoying.

 

[JoleneBrody]

It's a vicious cycle that (for the most part) only the members can change.

Everything else, yes, I concur. This, I disagree. In my opinion, this is a problem that models (not necessarily anyone in particular) have created.

When a member can go to MFC 24/7/365 and find a free show within 30 seconds of logging on, why should said member break out the wallet and tip for something he can get for free? I'm not saying this is right, but the opportunity is there.

It's a catch 22. The only way to really change things is for MFC to enforce their posted rules, which I don't see happening anytime soon.

I'm upset at the current situation as well (although could never be to the degree of a model) because it brings down the quality of the entire site.

My opinion, take it as you will.

I see what your saying, I myself don't do public cum shows ............
Think of a strip club. You don't tip for the model to get on the stage, you tip her because she did.

I never said cum shows, I said free shows, i.e., public shows. For some, a few, many, most, (I really don't know) that may be more than enough.

As to the strip club analogy, I think that has flaws. First of all, a strip club has a cover charge, MFC does not. Secondly, a strip club usually (in my experience anyway) has a drink minimum. MFC does not (nor cannot for that matter). In the case of a strip club, both require $$$. MFC does not. Therefore, someone going into to a strip club is expecting to spend money, for MFC, not so much.

Different mentality going in.

Again, just my opinion. Take it as you will.

Well your point was that MFC needs to enforce the rules, that only leaves a few options and I didn't think we were talking about toilet shows... nude shows are not against the rules of MFC.
I understand what you mean on the strip club part but freeloaders still go to strip clubs to drink while not tipping the girls. The girls don't make money off anything but their tips (from what I understand) so the cover charge and drink minimum is only for the big mans pockets. It's just not as prevalent.
Yes different mentality, obviously, or else we wouldn't be talking about this. :-D My point is that people need to change their mentality and get it in the right place.
My point was not just that people tip but how they tip. A "TIP" is considered more of a thank you for a service in most of the world. I like countdowns, I think they are fun but sometimes I wish I could just log on when I have a random spare hour, do an impromptu show and actually come out with more than 20 tokens. But, alas, that is not likely going to happen.
I will add that I have regulars who don't tip every day, just when they can. I enjoy their company and don't want them going anywhere.
This is just some food for thought.

 

[AmberCutie]

I never said cum shows, I said free shows, i.e., public shows. For some, a few, many, most, (I really don't know) that may be more than enough.

Public shows without toys, masturbation, cumming and penetration are allowed, and are what make MFC go 'round. I think a lot of "freeloaders" have gotten way too used to it and are taking it for granted. They should all be forced to go visit the other popular cam sites where no nudity is allowed in public chat and members have to pay per minute to see any sort of "show." Maybe when they were allowed back to MFC they would realize how good they have it and throw a few dimes in the mix more often.

 

[Jessi]

Perhaps the existence of public cum shows isnt taking away viewers/tippers but creating a certain...expectation. Perhaps something a long the lines of "Well if I dont have to pay to watch SexyLilKitty on her fuck machine, why would I tip BIGBOOBIES22 if Im just hanging out and enjoying her company?" Because people still freeload in rooms where no sexyshow is going on, and they do it for hours- they could easily leave and check back to see if the girl was doing anything is they were just waiting for a show. Just thinking aloud.

 

[Mfcwatchdog]

Also a sort of "view time limit" will discourage the freeloaders.For example let them watch for 30 seconds if they want to continue force them to register AND PAY not just register as a basic and contiue for free on the back of somebody else money.But it would be hard to keep track asto who whas viewing.

 

[MrRodry]

Also a sort of "view time limit" will discourage the freeloaders.For example let them watch for 30 seconds if they want to continue force them to register AND PAY not just register as a basic and contiue for free on the back of somebody else money.But it would be hard to keep track asto who whas viewing.

I believe that would work. Maybe putting that tip limit by models feature to actually work and do a "tippers only" time would too but StanislavJ nailed it. It is making money and you got the models under the camscore pressure, no chances ahead.

 

[Jessi]

A tipper time would be fun, Like if the model had a button called "countdown show", where once her countdown was reached, people who didnt tip wouldnt be able to see the camera feed until she was done. It might make more money than group (which I assume is why some top models only do public shows). But MFC probably wouldnt do this, it would be too much like Streamate gold shows.

 

[LadyLuna]

Someone here pointed out that the paying members are getting tired of paying for the freeloaders. Lots of them are starting to switch over to only doing private or group.

Now, I'm not saying it will happen soon, but if that becomes the trend, the problem will sort itself out. The models who do free shows for practically nothing end up walking away after awhile because they aren't making enough. The members who are willing to pay will go private or group. Free shows stop being paid for, and stop happening.

But, if it does work out like that, it will take awhile.

GENTLEMEN: If you have a problem paying for freeloaders, don't tip for public shows. Take her private or group. She doesn't want to do private or group? Next model, or suck it up and pay for freeloaders.

Seriously, I had one guy wanted something, couldn't get a group started, didn't want to pay private price, and complained in PM that tipping me to do it in public would let others freeload. I said "Then take me private or deal with the freeloaders."

 

[schlmoe]

GENTLEMEN: If you have a problem paying for freeloaders, don't tip for public shows. Take her private or group.

Easier said than done in most cases.

She doesn't want to do private or group? Next model, or suck it up and pay for freeloaders.

Voting with your feet and/or wallet is always an option.

 

[Jessi]

Someone here pointed out that the paying members are getting tired of paying for the freeloaders. Lots of them are starting to switch over to only doing private or group.

Now, I'm not saying it will happen soon, but if that becomes the trend, the problem will sort itself out. The models who do free shows for practically nothing end up walking away after awhile because they aren't making enough. The members who are willing to pay will go private or group. Free shows stop being paid for, and stop happening.

But, if it does work out like that, it will take awhile.

Oh I do hope so

 

[Anonymous]

Someone here pointed out that the paying members are getting tired of paying for the freeloaders. Lots of them are starting to switch over to only doing private or group.

Now, I'm not saying it will happen soon, but if that becomes the trend, the problem will sort itself out. The models who do free shows for practically nothing end up walking away after awhile because they aren't making enough. The members who are willing to pay will go private or group. Free shows stop being paid for, and stop happening.

But, if it does work out like that, it will take awhile.

GENTLEMEN: If you have a problem paying for freeloaders, don't tip for public shows. Take her private or group. She doesn't want to do private or group? Next model, or suck it up and pay for freeloaders.

Seriously, I had one guy wanted something, couldn't get a group started, didn't want to pay private price, and complained in PM that tipping me to do it in public would let others freeload. I said "Then take me private or deal with the freeloaders."

This EXACTLY!

If freeloaders benefitting from your tokens bothers you, there's always group, private, true private, or Skype (some models, such as myself, will offer Skype at a rate cheaper than MFC's private show rate). If you're not willing to do ANY of those, I really don't know what to tell you.

You could always visit the model on other sites she cams on (if she does) and pay for a show there. But I have to tell you...I think MFC offers a larger variety of token packages (you can even buy just TEN tokens, if you want!), plus actually pays models a decent percentage (Yeah, yeah, here we go talking about percentages again...lol). I've had a MFC regular tell me that he thinks Streamate is expensive, and that he prefers MFC. I don't blame him...MFC is the best cam site for you guys to spend your money on, in my opinion.

 

[dustinxxxizzle]

I just found MFC in late 2010/early 2011, but I used a few other sites previously since around late 2006/early 2007. All of them were strictly enter room, chat with the girl for a minute and then decide whether to take her private or leave. The one site I used most frequently prior to MFC didn't even let you see the girl on cam first, you just had to go by her profile pictures pretty much, so I just had one or two regs there I would private with.

Needless to say, I LOVED when I found MFC and could actually see the girl on cam before deciding. Also, compared to the previous site I used most, the number of girls there are on MFC at any one time is amazing. I'm talking thousands on MFC compared to 5 girls. I had used other sites with more girls on at any one time, but the quality of girls wasn't that great. They would mostly be foreign and obviously worked for a studio and were hard to interact with. What I'm trying to get at is for the most part, MFC was/is like a beacon of light for me.

That being said, the whole tip towards some goal thing is still completely foreign to me. I think it's a case of both me doing private one on ones for so long and not being a fan of the usual sexy dance and watch the girl orgasm thing. The goal usually does nothing for me. I wish it did, because I usually budget myself like 1,875 tokens a month. Some months I'll splurge up to double that. In theory I could get a lot more for my money staying in a room, tipping here and there. I thought that's what I'd do when I found MFC. Habits die hard though and I get much more enjoyment out of having 1 or 2 long privates a month. So I don't bother going into rooms that often anymore, because I don't like feeling like a freeloader. That and a lot of the girls that I end up fancying are girls that make a killing off of tips and don't private. I'll see a girl that I haven't checked out yet, go into her room and see a tip goal going. Then I'll check her profile, see nothing about privates and leave. I used to ask, "Hey do you do privates?" but I'd usually get verbally attacked by a white knight saying, "No! Read the profile, do you see anything about privates? End your life noob." So I don't bother doing that anymore. ;P

Anyway, that's my long winded post about why I usually stick to a girl or two that does privates and why I'm not really a tipper, but also don't sit in the room enjoying free shows, either.

 

[AmberCutie]

Someone here pointed out that the paying members are getting tired of paying for the freeloaders. Lots of them are starting to switch over to only doing private or group.

Now, I'm not saying it will happen soon, but if that becomes the trend, the problem will sort itself out. The models who do free shows for practically nothing end up walking away after awhile because they aren't making enough. The members who are willing to pay will go private or group. Free shows stop being paid for, and stop happening.

But, if it does work out like that, it will take awhile.

GENTLEMEN: If you have a problem paying for freeloaders, don't tip for public shows. Take her private or group. She doesn't want to do private or group? Next model, or suck it up and pay for freeloaders.

Seriously, I had one guy wanted something, couldn't get a group started, didn't want to pay private price, and complained in PM that tipping me to do it in public would let others freeload. I said "Then take me private or deal with the freeloaders."

Well, I certainly am not ready get naked only in group, do oil dancing only in group, do shower shows only in group, dance sexy to my favorite songs only in group... so for the sake of how I normally run my room, I really hope that not everyone just clicks "next model" instead of chipping in a few tokens to a naked, shower, oil show countdown.

 

[JoleneBrody]

I just found MFC in late 2010/early 2011, but I used a few other sites previously since around late 2006/early 2007. All of them were strictly enter room, chat with the girl for a minute and then decide whether to take her private or leave. The one site I used most frequently prior to MFC didn't even let you see the girl on cam first, you just had to go by her profile pictures pretty much, so I just had one or two regs there I would private with.

Needless to say, I LOVED when I found MFC and could actually see the girl on cam before deciding. Also, compared to the previous site I used most, the number of girls there are on MFC at any one time is amazing. I'm talking thousands on MFC compared to 5 girls. I had used other sites with more girls on at any one time, but the quality of girls wasn't that great. They would mostly be foreign and obviously worked for a studio and were hard to interact with. What I'm trying to get at is for the most part, MFC was/is like a beacon of light for me.

That being said, the whole tip towards some goal thing is still completely foreign to me. I think it's a case of both me doing private one on ones for so long and not being a fan of the usual sexy dance and watch the girl orgasm thing. The goal usually does nothing for me. I wish it did, because I usually budget myself like 1,875 tokens a month. Some months I'll splurge up to double that. In theory I could get a lot more for my money staying in a room, tipping here and there. I thought that's what I'd do when I found MFC. Habits die hard though and I get much more enjoyment out of having 1 or 2 long privates a month. So I don't bother going into rooms that often anymore, because I don't like feeling like a freeloader. That and a lot of the girls that I end up fancying are girls that make a killing off of tips and don't private. I'll see a girl that I haven't checked out yet, go into her room and see a tip goal going. Then I'll check her profile, see nothing about privates and leave. I used to ask, "Hey do you do privates?" but I'd usually get verbally attacked by a white knight saying, "No! Read the profile, do you see anything about privates? End your life noob." So I don't bother doing that anymore. ;P

Anyway, that's my long winded post about why I usually stick to a girl or two that does privates and why I'm not really a tipper, but also don't sit in the room enjoying free shows, either.

Aw you should still ask! fuck what the white knights say! I don't have anything about privates on my profile because I don't like to go with just anyone, and don't really have a menu of things I do. Somedays I'm in the mood for something that I'm not another day. But I'm almost ALWAYS open for privates the last hour or so of my show, just as an example. I wouldn't limit yourself by what it says on the profile. I actually only cum in privates and groups, I just don't like limiting myself too much with the menu.
If a girl is in the middle of a countdown often times she won't accept them but it's still worth asking. for all you know that countdown may not have moved in 30 minutes and you would be a welcome break.