How to deal with entitled jerks?

[Jenna K]

I’ve been having so many entitled people in my room lately it’s so annoying. Apparently I’m entitled if I want my goal finished.
These guys just want a free show and will literally wait for some big tipper to come in to see what they want, but by that time I’m already turned off and would rather do a private or hidden show.
what are your tips for dealing with the freeloading?

I just ignore them, if they started to get rude I just kick them out of my room. This weeks was have a lot of them in my room too. I don't know if its a bad streak or I don't know what happen.

I'm so patient because I want traffic in my room, more traffic the best chances to be in the first pages.

 

[Lucid1]

Watching my favorite model trying to grow her room and seeing these entitled freeloaders show up every day, makes me appreciate and understand my own behavior while I am in her room. As a member, the public chat annoys me to no end most times, and it seems to be the same usernames who park themselves in her room waiting for the current goal to be met. I would never attempt to give advice to a model in these matters, but as a member, I can't help but think that banning might be the only option in cases like this. Sometimes I get fed up with the lack of tipping from these self absorbed idiots, especially when they start making requests, so I've started tipping to meet the entire current goal, and then I immediately take her private. She's told me that on several occasions some of them have spied on our private, so the net effect has been positive in one way at least.

 

[SophyD]

Man, I get you! In the past, it used to bother me soooo much...Seeing them saying stuff and when I was trying to do a Vip or something they would add the minimum and then start telling the other members to give more. Or worse they would sit there and watch me tease and after the goal was reached they would add the smallest amount just to get an almost free ride!! UHH
Nowadays though I kinda know who the freeloaders are in my room, and so when I decide to do a Vip or PartyChat or smth I just kick them out of the room I don't know if it's the best decision, but I am petty that way!

 

[throwawayacc71]

Just ban them or move to a non-free site if it bothers you that much. so long as you're offering free shows people are going to watch it for free, you wont ever change that.
or you could just leave them in hopes they will eventually tip, it'll be a small percentage but its something.

 

[MallorieReese]

My mantra when it comes to this type of users is: block, mute and ban.

 

[Autumn Nights]

Ban time wasters and freeloaders. They just take time and attention away that should be given to people interested in buying content.

Not everyone who doesn't buy stuff right away is a freeloader, of course! Though some people do actually get off on wasting other people's time, and will never pay. The more you interact with people on these sites, the more effectively you'll be able to tell what people's intentions are.

 

[GraysonDrake]

If someone being in the room bothers a model, the model can ban anyone they damn well please. It's their room. If it's bothering them mentally to see certain names freeloading constantly, then get rid of the negative. Not like that member helps anything, contributes anything other than an irritation.

I'll ban and mute everyday all day. It's entitled to think you can get a free show every time I stream. At least have the decency to go incognito or log out so you're anonymous and it won't bother me to see the same freeloading names.

Your suggestions make it complicated for those tipping when it doesn't need to be. Freeloading can def impact earnings when the model is in a bad mood from the lurkers.

Ehhh I'm with you as far as people who are actively begging and freeloading but I figure if they're gonna lurk they aren't hurting anything and might as well contribute to the algorithm. Usually the only times I ban people outright is when they figure out how to get around my censor bots, beg for shit or try to ask me prying sexual questions without tipping.

For me it isn't worth the emotional energy to care if most if the people in my room aren't tipping, that's always going to be the case for everyone. Camming is a bit like online busking, and most people who pass you on the street aren't going to put a dollar in your hat.

However yeah it's really important to eject active freeloaders as soon as possible because it sets an example of how you handle your room and what is and isn't tolerated.

As a member i will surf around on PM's all night and completely avoid the chatroom drama.

I have god-tier ADHD ferret brain and I hate it when members do this on CB, it actively fucks with the quality of my shows. It divides my attention too much and a lot of the time the conversation is innocuous enough to be held in public chat and be part of a group discussion, especially when I know there would be other people interested and it would help overall room engagement. Also if I'm typing to one person instead of talking or doing anything interesting, so people who come in think I look bored or distracted and don't stick around. PMs are mostly for setting up private shows and discussing things that would be too personal for chat.

I love having a chatty chat. If people make it weird or start shit they don't usually last long.

 

[GraysonDrake]

And not forgetting;

Boobs, Bobs

Which reminds me:

 

[Jenna K]

Usually the only times I ban people outright is when they figure out how to get around my censor bots,

There is bot that can do that?

This last days was so annoying that always have beggars in my room, really, I don't like to ban people for the algorithm, I just ignore them, but they are so irritating.

I was thinking lately to put the option that no one cannot chat without tipping in the last 24 hours. There are a lot of blue, purple and pink users that always are begging for a free show, seriously they are more annoying than the grey ones because they have tokens :/.

Also if I'm typing to one person instead of talking or doing anything interesting, so people who come in think I look bored or distracted and don't stick around. PMs are mostly for setting up private shows and discussing things that would be too personal for chat.

I will do that for now on, really I try to be nice with people, but the pms distract me a lot. Pm only for pvt.

 

[GraysonDrake]

There is bot that can do that?

This last days was so annoying that always have beggars in my room, really, I don't like to ban people for the algorithm, I just ignore them, but they are so irritating.

I was thinking lately to put the option that no one cannot chat without tipping in the last 24 hours. There are a lot of blue, purple and pink users that always are begging for a free show, seriously they are more annoying than the grey ones because they have tokens :/.



I will do that for now on, really I try to be nice with people, but the pms distract me a lot. Pm only for pvt.

Yeah I use Dorothy's Ultra Fembot and it has two banned words lists that you can edit as well as auto responses for stuff like PM begging and asking about Private shows. It also has a function called /ninja that stealth mutes people without telling them for the rest of the show or until you restart the bot so then you can mute annoying people without their knowledge. There's also features that lets me mute grays after my room reaches a certain number of people, then if it gets to a second number it mutes everyone who hasn't tipped and I have it set to unmute if my room goes back below that threshold.

I don't even respond to PM begging anymore because any time someone says "pm" in chat it responds with my PM price. I set one list for blues and grays that's got a harsh censor and doesn't let them say any words associated with begging (or pet names/degrading names I don't like being called for free) and then I have a more lax ones that's for everybody.

I also have it set so grays have to wait a few minutes and solve a captcha before being able to talk in chat in order to deal with bots.

This is seriously my favorite bot.

 

[GoddessV]

Yeah I use Dorothy's Ultra Fembot and it has two banned words lists that you can edit as well as auto responses for stuff like PM begging and asking about Private shows. It also has a function called /ninja that stealth mutes people without telling them for the rest of the show or until you restart the bot so then you can mute annoying people without their knowledge. There's also features that lets me mute grays after my room reaches a certain number of people, then if it gets to a second number it mutes everyone who hasn't tipped and I have it set to unmute if my room goes back below that threshold.

I don't even respond to PM begging anymore because any time someone says "pm" in chat it responds with my PM price. I set one list for blues and grays that's got a harsh censor and doesn't let them say any words associated with begging (or pet names/degrading names I don't like being called for free) and then I have a more lax ones that's for everybody.

I also have it set so grays have to wait a few minutes and solve a captcha before being able to talk in chat in order to deal with bots.

This is seriously my favorite bot.

Wow, fembot does way more than I have utilized it for! Very helpful, thank you. I use the automatic message for PM and I love it.

 

[Jenna K]

Yeah I use Dorothy's Ultra Fembot and it has two banned words lists that you can edit as well as auto responses for stuff like PM begging and asking about Private shows. It also has a function called /ninja that stealth mutes people without telling them for the rest of the show or until you restart the bot so then you can mute annoying people without their knowledge. There's also features that lets me mute grays after my room reaches a certain number of people, then if it gets to a second number it mutes everyone who hasn't tipped and I have it set to unmute if my room goes back below that threshold.

I don't even respond to PM begging anymore because any time someone says "pm" in chat it responds with my PM price. I set one list for blues and grays that's got a harsh censor and doesn't let them say any words associated with begging (or pet names/degrading names I don't like being called for free) and then I have a more lax ones that's for everybody.

I also have it set so grays have to wait a few minutes and solve a captcha before being able to talk in chat in order to deal with bots.

This is seriously my favorite bot.

Thank you, I will try it tomorrow at night .

 

[schruti]

There is bot that can do that?

Tip3Dice handles PM and private beggars quite decently.

It offers lots of features, including a tip menu, and if that tip menu offers PM, and a user asks for PM, the app will mute that request and privately and nicely tell the user the price for a PM. Some users ask several times, trying variations like “P M”, “pppmm“,“pvt message”, “message about private show”, and the app catches them, too, and continues to mute lines and nicely tell the user about how to get a PM. It's never boring because it gives users a different answer on every attempt. Some users keep trying just because they enjoy the notices sent by the app. If nobody else talks to them, why not engage in an entertaining conversation with a friendly app?

About one in ten users will actually pay for a PM after that. The point is that they don't feel offended. If a human tells them to pay for a PM, or a bot tells that in public, that feels like “You are too poor for me, go away!”. If a stupid bot nicely and privately tells them about the PM price, they did not lose their face. Also, by keeping both the request and the reply invisible to the public, the app keeps the peace and good mood in the channel.

The app won't affect PM requests sent by fans, moderators and users who already tipped at least as much as a PM would cost.

In general, Tip3Dice protects against spam quite well, usually without bothering the user about typing a captcha. It's quite smart in telling apart humans from bots. However, if something looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, most people would assume it's a duck, and if a visitor very much behaves like a spam bot, the app might treat him as such. In that rare case, he gets an opportunity to prove he is human, and then chat normally.

It's that posible? lately have so quiet days, and wanna try other sites at same time.

You talked about letting Chaturbate users spy on a private show in another site, and Tip3Dice supports that by a command like

#hide 23 Spy on me

which hides the camera but allows visitors to buy a ticket for 23 tokens.

 

[GraysonDrake]

Tip3Dice handles PM and private beggars quite decently.

It offers lots of features, including a tip menu, and if that tip menu offers PM, and a user asks for PM, the app will mute that request and privately and nicely tell the user the price for a PM. Some users ask several times, trying variations like “P M”, “pppmm“,“pvt message”, “message about private show”, and the app catches them, too, and continues to mute lines and nicely tell the user about how to get a PM. It's never boring because it gives users a different answer on every attempt. Some users keep trying just because they enjoy the notices sent by the app. If nobody else talks to them, why not engage in an entertaining conversation with a friendly app?

I didn't know it did that. I had looked at this app in the beginning but for reasons I no longer remember I went with a different app.
Gonna look into this, tickets shows are something I've wanted to try, though I'm a fan of plug and play apps that I don't have to fuck with once my show starts. Might have to use this with fembot....

 

[schruti]

The description contains a link to some documentation with examples. I am working on it. And I will happily answer any questions about configuration.

Ticket shows come in two flavors: Either people pay for the current ticket show …

#hide 23 Spy on me

… or they see you after they tipped specific minimum amount during that day:

#hide +37 Darkest Desires

That 2nd flavor means anybody who tipped 37 or more since the app was started has a ticket. People quickly learn that every token spent counts for every show that day, and they tend to stay for the next show.

There is another popular flavor of ticket show which that app does not yet support, that is, pay per minute.

Apart from ticket shows, the one feature that causes work again and again are goals - you can configure a fixed complete list, but most models set the goals manually:

#goal +99 Drink Tea
#goal +99 Drink Coffee
#goal +99 Drink Milk

… creates 3 goals at 99, 198, 297. If you like to play with it for tests, you can easily test the effects of tipping:

#tipp 7

makes the app pretend you tipped 7 tokens, thus you see how the goals are presented and achieved.

 

[Jenna K]

If nobody else talks to them, why not engage in an entertaining conversation with a friendly app?

Looks interesting

You talked about letting Chaturbate users spy on a private show in another site, and Tip3Dice supports that by a command like

#hide 23 Spy on me

which hides the camera but allows visitors to buy a ticket for 23 tokens.

Oh, a ticket show D: