How fast is your internet?

[schlmoe]

Maybe I am an idiot (very possible), but if the upload speed is 2.5 in BOTH rooms, how is

her upload speed is reduced, too

*sigh* Do you really want to know?
There are two connections...
Her laptop connects to the local network.
Her Router connects to the internet.
The bandwidth to the local network is reduced in her room. Download AND upload. So if she has another computer (for example a shared folder from her brother) or file server in the local network she could upload to this machine with only 5.5mbit/s.

It doesn't matter if her upload speed to the router is 300 mbit/s or 5.5 mbit/s. Her upload speed to the internet is still 2.5

And I think you "swag"ed the numbers on the left side of the diagram. 300 mbit/s is the theorectical highest transmit speed of the router. But I could be wrong

Of course, I don't know her bandwidth in the local network. But if you checked her connection speed in the local network you could tell me and I'll correct the image. I just chose the numbers because in this case they are unimportant.

And her speed to the local network is unimportant because as an MFC model she is not streaming to her local network

And of course all of this discussion (mine included!) is unimportant/irrelevant because it is no help at all to her original problem :mrgreen:

 

[Stahlfaust]

It doesn't matter if her upload speed to the router is 300 mbit/s or 5.5 mbit/s. Her upload speed to the internet is still 2.5

Fun fact: I know this and that was what I was saying, too... see my image
I just wanted to explain why her upload speed to the internet is not getting slower. I don't get why we have to talk about anything else.
So back to topic, please?

 

[schlmoe]

It doesn't matter if her upload speed to the router is 300 mbit/s or 5.5 mbit/s. Her upload speed to the internet is still 2.5

Fun fact: I know this and that was what I was saying, too... see my image

Suuuure you did...

Maybe this image will explain what I meant... her upload speed is reduced, too.

So back to topic, please?

Oh mighty topic mod, your wish is my command :lol:

 

[Stahlfaust]

Can you even read? :lol:

The bandwidth to the local network is reduced in her room. Download AND upload.

Try to read this, again. You can quote different stuff as often as you want: I meant the local upload not her internet upload. And that's what my image is saying, too. I just wanted to explain something to Sevrin.

Well, I'm out. I sent LilyMarie some stuff on twitter and if this won't help I'll get her a repeater. But this won't help because (like everybody here knows) her internet upload will stay the same.

 

[schlmoe]

Stahlfaust is soooooooo AWESOME!!!

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Here we go again.

My mom recently bought a new router for our apartment, because the previous one was really old and we suspected it might be the reason we weren't getting anywhere near the 50 mbps we're paying for.
The new router is great! When sitting in the same room as the router, I'm getting up to 55 on my Samsung Galaxy S4 and 45 on my mom's 2012 netbook!
However on my 2010 laptop, I was still getting only about 5-10, even when in the same room as the router.

With the help from a friend, I figured out that this was because of the outdated wifi card that's built into my laptop. It's a 802.11h one. Today's standard is 802.11n. So that was why it couldn't achieve the same speed as my phone and the netbook.

I bought a new wireless adapter yesterday, one that has the current n standard (it's this one). The guy at the store recommended it because it's the same manufacturer as our new router.

So I installed it on my laptop. As a result I'm now getting 40-52 mbps, but only in the room where the router is!
However, in my bedroom, I'm STILL only getting 5-10. Kind of like how it was in my room before.

My bedroom is not that far from the living room where the router is. Maybe 50 feet. Even when I keep all doors open it doesn't make a difference, it's still slow.


Are there any tricks, anything I can do to get the speed in my bedroom closer to the one in the living room where the router is? Why is there such a huge difference between both?


TLDR
My internet speed in my room is a tenth of the awesome speed I get in the room with the router. What to do?

So. Back to the point of lily's question and ignoring the nonsense after... :lol: (Yes I said it! :hand: )

First off I would like to say I am NOT calling you stupid in what I am about to ask. I just want to rule it out because I have dealt with others who have done what I'm about to ask you.

When in the living room you are connected to the new router. When you go to your bedroom have you verified that you are still connected to the same network? In other words is your laptop losing connection at some point by the time you get to your bedroom and it's connecting to a unsecured neighbors connection or a secured one that you use to be connected to before? If that is the case then maybe that 'other' network you are connecting to is just normally that speed. The software will connect to the strongest signal it can after losing a connection, so this happens to people occasionally without them noticing.

Honestly with it being only 50 feet away from the router it's possible you are having something in the wall causing direct interference. Is there some sort of metal sewer pipe in the wall in direct line between your laptop and the wireless adapter you just bought? A microwave. An electrical panel box? Is there a bathroom or closet that adds more walls? I realize this is probably not the case since you're in an apartment and it just really should be getting better signal strength anywhere inside.

If it is just that single spot where you set your laptop, then you have two choices I can think. Since you can't rearrange where your desk is at, one is to put a USB extension cable in so the adapter is several feet away, even affixed to the wall higher up. Basically move the adapter itself to where it can get a stronger signal -IF- it exists in your bedroom. (I have a 10 foot long USB extension cable that works great for putting wireless adapters or even webcams on)

Otherwise, if nothing else works. Then my best suggestion is to take that adapter back. It is possible you just got a bad (weakly powered) one. If all your other devices seem to work good in your room this is my best guess to be honest. And if it really is just a weak signal then maybe consider getting a different adapter with an antenna on it for a better signal reception.

 

[schlmoe]

Thank you Jerry!

Your welcome.

 

[Sevrin]

Is it really worth going to all that trouble for? The DL speed isn't *that* bad, i.e., good enough for streaming HD, and the upload speed and ping are pretty good either way.

 

[LilyMarie]

Guys please don't be snappy with each other I feel bad.
I'm not going into the discussion on why my upload speed doesn't change, since it's irrelevant.

Just like in real-estate, location, location, location.
So if you have the router against an outside wall the opposite side of the house/apartment/etc will not be getting as good a signal. Distance matters. It is typically a better option to try and place the router in the center of the area you want it to cover so that it distributes the signal as evenly as possible.

I've actually been thinking about getting a longer ethernet cable and moving the router closer to my bedroom. That's the 2nd possible solution I'm thinking about right now, along with the repeater that Stahlfaust is nice enough to buy for me and that HOPEFULLY will make a difference.

Next would be if you have lots of electrical in between such as a kitchen between the router and your laptop you can get some interference from items such as microwaves and the like. Less common, but I have seen it happen.

None of that is between the router and the laptop.

Last thing I would check is typically routers have a channel that they run on. By default most use channel 6. (...)

If you have an android smart phone you might consider getting Wifi Analyzer app ( https://play.google.com/store/apps/deta ... i.analyzer ) which can help you to determine what other router signals you might be competing with, and what channel they are on. If you are in your room and the next door neighbor's signal strength is stronger than yours and on the same channel you can get enough interference that might explain the slow speeds.

I can also do this with InSSIDer, right? I have that software but I don't really know how to use it - and how to change to a different channel! :?

Is it really worth going to all that trouble for? The DL speed isn't *that* bad, i.e., good enough for streaming HD, and the upload speed and ping are pretty good either way.

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Thoughts:
It won't make a difference for camming, as your upload speed isn't affected and your ping is still awesome.
Unless you're downloading a lot of files from very fast servers, it won't make a difference there, either. You have more than enough bandwidth for HD streamed content.

It's not about camming, and I know that the upload speed is fine.
It's really just about the download speed...
Sometimes it takes me 3 or 4 seconds to load a simple, text-based site (like my MFC mails) and that's not acceptable IMO. When I test-download any of my video to see if the download works fine before I give them to members, it takes me a good solid hour on some days. Don't get me started on 1080p YouTube videos. Those take forever, too, and they're choppy.

When in the living room you are connected to the new router. When you go to your bedroom have you verified that you are still connected to the same network? In other words is your laptop losing connection at some point by the time you get to your bedroom and it's connecting to a unsecured neighbors connection or a secured one that you use to be connected to before?

It's the same network.

Honestly with it being only 50 feet away from the router it's possible you are having something in the wall causing direct interference. Is there some sort of metal sewer pipe in the wall in direct line between your laptop and the wireless adapter you just bought? A microwave. An electrical panel box? Is there a bathroom or closet that adds more walls? I realize this is probably not the case since you're in an apartment and it just really should be getting better signal strength anywhere inside.

No microwave - I don't know about those other things. I'd have to ask my mom. There is a bathroom between my bedroom and the living room, yes.

If it is just that single spot where you set your laptop, then you have two choices I can think. Since you can't rearrange where your desk is at, one is to put a USB extension cable in so the adapter is several feet away, even affixed to the wall higher up. Basically move the adapter itself to where it can get a stronger signal -IF- it exists in your bedroom. (I have a 10 foot long USB extension cable that works great for putting wireless adapters or even webcams on)

That would mean the USB extension cable would go straight through my room which is impossible. :/ There is no stronger signal at other points in my bedroom anyway.

Otherwise, if nothing else works. Then my best suggestion is to take that adapter back. It is possible you just got a bad (weakly powered) one. If all your other devices seem to work good in your room this is my best guess to be honest.

The other devices (phone, netbook) are bad in my room, too. Maybe I didn't make that clear in my first post.

 

[schlmoe]

@Lily:

All troubleshooting needs to start at layer 1 and go forward. That includes most of the advice you have received here. Since an ethernet cable is out of the question:

Try moving the router (or closer to your room)
Try to place the router to avoid EMI (for example: on the home theater stand with the TV & stereo is not a good idea)
Make sure your new router has the latest firmware
Make sure your wifi adapter has the latest firmware AND driver (Yes I know they are "new", but it's worth it to check)
Use the suggested apps to check the channel the router is broadcasting, and change it to a less congested channel (You change the broadcast channel via the router's admin webpage; you will find that in the router manual)
As suggested, it may be worth a try to exchange the wifi adapter.

Now let me tell you about my experience: I have a "N" router in my home office (spare bedroom). Even after attaching an external router antenna, I could only get 25-40% signal in the same room! So I went "wired" in my office. Around the house, it was terrible. In the living room I couldn't get a steady signal (lots of internet drop offs) no matter what I tried. And the living room is 25-30 feet from the router. Believe it or not, my best signal/reception is on my back porch. Outside and 50+ feet away.

What I am saying is that although many people do get the "max" speeds from their wifi setup, wifi is a crapshoot and the 5.5 mbs may be the best you can get. Take my word for it: I doubt any computer/network tech would guaranty you the 50 mbs (or close to it) in the bedroom that you get in the living room. There are just too many factors. Since you have had this problem before, I suspect it is the wall construction in your apartment. At my house, I suspect it is my furnace closet and washer/dryer closet (both between my router and livingroom) that is causing the problem.

Although you received a generous offer, I doubt the wifi repeater will be the solution (he admitted that as well). My experience with them is that they were very finicky to set up; they rarely maintained a consistent signal; and they are quite expensive (sometimes 3-4x price of a router). Just my 2 cents on that. I believe the repeater would have the same problem as the router: the signal degrades too much coming through your wall to give you the speed you desire.

***For info on updated firmware & driver, check the router/adapter website. Most mfgs have a Customer Support section with forums you can browse & post.

 

[Misono]

78mb down, 19mb upload. Completely wireless, and pings are 2ms.

UK internet ftw!

 

[eclipse76]

Is it really worth going to all that trouble for? The DL speed isn't *that* bad, i.e., good enough for streaming HD, and the upload speed and ping are pretty good either way.

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Thoughts:
It won't make a difference for camming, as your upload speed isn't affected and your ping is still awesome.
Unless you're downloading a lot of files from very fast servers, it won't make a difference there, either. You have more than enough bandwidth for HD streamed content.

It's not about camming, and I know that the upload speed is fine.
It's really just about the download speed...
Sometimes it takes me 3 or 4 seconds to load a simple, text-based site (like my MFC mails) and that's not acceptable IMO. When I test-download any of my video to see if the download works fine before I give them to members, it takes me a good solid hour on some days. Don't get me started on 1080p YouTube videos. Those take forever, too, and they're choppy.

Are you sure it's a d/l problem?
Your videos can be slow to d/l because of the servers where they are hosted limit the download speed. I remember when I d/l your videos, one was fairly fast and the two others were limited at 300 KB/s. Took me hours do get them.
As for 1080p Youtube videos, it could be a problem with the flash player being shit. Try updating it. Or maybe you don't have a videocard that support HD acceleration used by the Flash Player

 

[eastonb]

it's annoyingly slow

 

[BreakingRad]

Hey everyone! I am thoroughly confused by the whole upload/download speeds but I have an urgent issue and would love some feedback. I am moving on Friday to a very rural place and I left the internet for the last minute and now I am panicking.

T1 may be an option but not right away. They current speedtest with what is installed and the only other option out there is :

Download :
Ping 42 MS / Download : 6.60 mbps / Upload 0.80 mbps



My current home in the city is :
Download 46 mbps / Upload 14 mpbs / 26 ping
(and it works flawlessly)


Can my new homes very very very low speedtest allow me to continue on MFC for a few weeks until t1 is installed?

Thank you .

 

[curvyredhead]

This is while playing a movie on netflix and uploading a clip on C4S...not sure if that makes an inpact...

I know so little about this.

Upgrade bitches.

This was WiFi while skyping.

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[Ambers Troll]

my internet is CRAP...4.5 mbps download, 0.76 upload..my ISP is losing a fortune, I would pay so much more for a better connectiuon.

 

[JordanBlack]

On VPN, youtube running, torrents running and uploading on dropbox.

 

[Misono]

 

[Shaun__]

My cable company sent me a new modem, so here are my updated results.

 

[Minnie]

but I am wondering about upgrading it. just have to wait and see when I get new computers and the router put in for my voyeur cams for rude live house.

 

[Shaun__]

My cable company sent me a new modem, so here are my updated results.

It was fun while it lasted, but my speed is back to normal. I guess the first taste is free. :crybaby:

 

[Kradek]

Upgraded to a router (and network card) that support the 802.11 ac protocol. This is my speed these days on wifi.

 

[AllisonWilder]

Bumping an old thread, but upgraded, finally! :-D

 

[JubalCobb]

Bumping an old thread, but upgraded, finally! :-D

wow, nice upload speeds.

My provider has rolled out faster speeds, but only for download.
Most people think they've done this, and preannounced going to 1 Gb in a few years, thanks to Google Fiber. Which is weird since google fiber is hardly anywhere.

With FIOS heavily advertising synchronous up/down speeds, I hope my provider will think about increasing the upload speeds. You didn't really need it for browsing the web, but with todays cloud based activities that increased upload speed is helpful for things like dropbox/skydrive/gdrive, cloud based backups, picasa, etc.

117 Mbps down
11 Mbps up

 

[hollys]

My Internet speed test results are,
Download Speed: 18.89 Mbps
Upload Speed:0.795 Mbps.
I perform this test from ScanMySpeed.com

 

[Ivankaa]

(Ookla speeed test)

Here my speed with different server locations
And my provider says that I pay for 40mbs speed.. Was curious and tried the week of 100mbs speed, wich it offers.. but results from Ookla were the same - not over near 20mbs speed..

 

[WizofAus]

I'm never really sure how to interpret this, as my actually max dl is always 600k/s

 

[weirdbr]

I'm never really sure how to interpret this, as my actually max dl is always 600k/s

I think you mean 600KB/s (KiloBytes per second)? Just divide it by 8 (to go from bits to bytes) and voila: 5Mbps / 8 bits per byte = 0.625MB/s = 625KB/s


And my results... In theory I have 300Mbps download and 60Mbps upload on this connection (fiber); the other connection (yep, I have two due to work) is 150Mbps/30Mbps over cable, but too lazy to switch to it to test

I can upgrade to 1Gbps download/100Mbps upload, but I haven't come up with a good reason to convince myself to pay the extra 80 swiss francs per month... Or I can wait a year and change ISPs and get 1Gbps/1Gbps for cheaper, but without TV (the other ISP started offering this deal in my area after I signed an one year contract with swisscom :crybaby: )

 

[WizofAus]

I'm never really sure how to interpret this, as my actually max dl is always 600k/s

I think you mean 600KB/s (KiloBytes per second)? Just divide it by 8 (to go from bits to bytes) and voila: 5Mbps / 8 bits per byte = 0.625MB/s = 625KB/s

OMG, so simple. I'm ashamed that it didn't know. Thanks weirdbr.

 

[Ann_Sulu]

This is my internet while my roommate is using the internet on one pc and I'm uploading videos on another. Skype is up on both pc's at the moment too.

^that is for the pc that I normally cam on that's directly hooked into the router.

^this is my laptop on wifi.