Got scammed by a Model

[Walid1107]

Just made an account to try and get back and vent a little about a girl who scammed me on MFC. I have been on the site for 4 years, and regret to say i spent over thousands of dollars on it.

I recently met a model who has been on the site for a bit named LittleAlex we had two skype shows for tokens 200 tokens each, that got me 10 mins in skype. The third show she wanted paypal 50$ for 30mins, I was fine on it and agreed.

After I paid her she said back in 10 mins, I thought it was to get ready for Skype. I waited 2 hours she never came back, this morning I messaged her playfully if i was gonna get my show, she gave me a "" emote, and banned me from her room. I got some of my friend models to message her but she ignored them to.

I know I wont get my money back, but i just wanted to vent a little, and tell some members not trust this one fully.

Thanks.

 

[KelliAutumn]

Wow, that's really awful. I'm so sorry that happened to you.

Have you reported her to MFC? Granted, I believe in their TSA, tokens are a gift but it can't hurt.

If you wanted to report her to PayPal, that's an option.
You paid for a service you never received. Although, they would shut her account down forever and potentially shut yours down as they do not allow adult services.

Thank you for the PSA!

 

[Walid1107]

Wow, that's really awful. I'm so sorry that happened to you.

Have you reported her to MFC? Granted, I believe in their TSA, tokens are a gift but it can't hurt.

If you wanted to report her to PayPal, that's an option.
You paid for a service you never received. Although, they would shut her account down forever and potentially shut yours down as they do not allow adult services.

Thank you for the PSA!

I threatened to report her to paypal if i dont get my money back, but its not worth risking my account, this is just a vent thread and first time in four years I ever got scammed by someone.

 

[Fay_Galore]

I predict....

a naming discussion coming on!

 

[mynameisbob84]

I'd look into the PayPal thing. They tend to come down pretty hard on the party selling the "adult service" but not so hard on the party indulging in said service. Which is shitty, but at least benefits honest folk such as yourself who have just been unfortunate to be scammed. If it were me, Id also send a screengrab of the conversation that led to the "sale" and send it to MFC, along with a summary of events. Unlikely you'd get any kind of refund from them but if she's done this to enough members and enough of them have complained about it, MFC might at least stop her from ripping anybody else off.

I'd also send her one last email informing her that I'd sent screengrabs to MFC and PayPal as well alerting folk in Lounge and on Twitter that she scammed me (even if I hadn't done any of that) so that at the very least she might worry for a day or two about the consequences of her actions. I can be pretty passive aggressive and vindictive though

 

[JoleneBrody]

I predict....

a naming discussion coming on!

Naming is primarily frowned upon in the models only sections, where the general public is not able to fully defend themselves. Specifically, Black listing members and the like.

In this case, the model is fully capable of speaking her side of it, if this is not in fact true.

 

[Walid1107]

She messaged me back after I told her where I was gonna report her and stuff, and said she will give me my skype but im still very skeptical ill get it, and the fact that if it does happen it will be awkward as fuck.

Thanks Guys.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

She messaged me back after I told her where I was gonna report her and stuff, and said she will give me my skype but im still very skeptical ill get it, and the fact that if it does happen it will be awkward as fuck.

Thanks Guys.

Maybe, if you want, you can ask for the amount you gave her in already made videos, instead? That way you get something without the awkwardness.

 

[NataliaGrey]

I sent her a message. I see no problem with calling out scamming on the public section, but since she's not a member of the forums as far as I know, she likely has no idea about this and can't give her side of the story. So we'll see if she has anything to say.

 

[KelliAutumn]

I sent her a message. I see no problem with calling out scamming on the public section, but since she's not a member of the forums as far as I know, she likely has no idea about this and can't give her side of the story. So we'll see if she has anything to say.

I agree with this whole heartedly.

 

[Walid1107]

I sent her a message. I see no problem with calling out scamming on the public section, but since she's not a member of the forums as far as I know, she likely has no idea about this and can't give her side of the story. So we'll see if she has anything to say.

I had a model friend of mine message her, and she said to her that she gave me my show. So I don't really think messaging her will go anywhere. She said today that her pc went of yesterday and she would give my skype today, but then as she was logging off she said her tooth hurt and she will give it tomorrow. At the end of it, I dont see myself getting the show, and she seems to not be an honest person so her side of the story won't matter. Of course no one here really knows me so I take it my side isn't worth much either. Did I mention in this thread she also had me banned today? and she removed me from Skype? I did not curse her, I just asked if she could treat me like a human being and why she would do something like this to someone who seems like he can be a returning customer/member for a long time to her.

 

[Fay_Galore]

I sent her a message. I see no problem with calling out scamming on the public section, but since she's not a member of the forums as far as I know, she likely has no idea about this and can't give her side of the story. So we'll see if she has anything to say.

I had a model friend of mine message her, and she said to her that she gave me my show. So I don't really think messaging her will go anywhere. She said today that her pc went of yesterday and she would give my skype today, but then as she was logging off she said her tooth hurt and she will give it tomorrow. At the end of it, I dont see myself getting the show, and she seems to not be an honest person so her side of the story won't matter. Of course no one here really knows me so I take it my side isn't worth much either. Did I mention in this thread she also had me banned today? and she removed me from Skype?

No one's saying you're not telling the truth, but there are always two sides to a story, best case she's got a platform here to apologise and make things right.

 

[Walid1107]

she told me she will give me a show tomorrow if she stays true to her word, ill get this thread deleted, if not ill keep it up.

edit, she wants this thread down right now, otherwise she will not supply the show that I PAID FOR.

 

[Walid1107]

Don't take this thread down yet, I still believe she isn't being honest. She also has no videos. She is also ignoring my options to her which or Refund, Show, or I keep this thread and all the models twitter status on her up.

 

[JoleneBrody]

This is going to be the most awkward Skype show ever. :lol:

 

[Walid1107]

This is going to be the most awkward Skype show ever. :lol:

I so want it to happen for that reason, im gonna make her do things :angry4: :evil:

 

[hapa74]

This is going to be the most awkward Skype show ever. :lol:

I so want it to happen for that reason, im gonna make her do things :angry4: :evil:

Whoa! Getting what you paid for/a refund is one thing. Getting "even/revenge" is a whole different thing :shock:

 

[Walid1107]

This is going to be the most awkward Skype show ever. :lol:

I so want it to happen for that reason, im gonna make her do things :angry4: :evil:

Whoa! Getting what you paid for/a refund is one thing. Getting "even/revenge" is a whole different thing :shock:

Its a joke, I just want my money to be worth something, or better yet get it back.

 

[BarbieLuv]

I have nothing to say as to whether or not this model scammed the OP. Maybe she did, maybe she didn't. I have no opinion on the matter.

However I am more than a bit disturbed that he created an ACF thread to slander her, and now is using it as a bargaining chip to get her to do the Skype. First off, that's not very nice (to say the least.) And second, I really hope this 'create a thread/get it taken down later if she gives in' doesn't become the 'norm' whenever someone has a problem with a model. That's not good for the ACF community, and it's really not fair to Amber to expect her to delete a whole thread because the OP doesn't need it anymore.

This whole thread really boils down to: "Oh hey, let me create this thread that could potentially lose this model all of her regulars/her livelihood over $50, then use it to essentially blackmail her until she Skypes with me, and THEN let me make her do horrible things to herself in the Skype to teach her a lesson!"

Not cool, man. Not cool. :naughty:

 

[Walid1107]

I have nothing to say as to whether or not this model scammed the OP. Maybe she did, maybe she didn't. I have no opinion on the matter.

However I am more than a bit disturbed that he created an ACF thread to slander her, and now is using it as a bargaining chip to get her to do the Skype. First off, that's not very nice (to say the least.) And second, I really hope this 'create a thread/get it taken down later if she gives in' doesn't become the 'norm' whenever someone has a problem with a model. That's not good for the ACF community, and it's really not fair to Amber to expect her to delete a whole thread because the OP doesn't need it anymore.

This whole thread really boils down to: "Oh hey, let me create this thread that could potentially lose this model all of her regulars/her livelihood over $50, then use it to essentially blackmail her until she Skypes with me, and THEN let me make her do horrible things to herself in the Skype to teach her a lesson!"

Not cool, man. Not cool. :naughty:

Way to make me look like a villain, how would you feel if someone took something from you like that? Does she deserve regulars if she pulls something like that off? The skype thing was a joke like a previously said but you seemed to ignore it, what ever. It wasn't intended for that when I started it, it was a vent and way to warn people. Way to be a white knight and defend her without knowing anything of the situation. And this isn't blackmail if you are gonna do shady things to people expect your reputation to be tarnished. And as a student 50$ is something I had to save up for towards a nice time, to have it destroyed like that is hurting.

 

[JoleneBrody]

:/... This got super disturbing and sad real fast...

*backs away slowly*

Ask for a damn PayPal refund and save your humanity man.

 

[Walid1107]

:/... This got super disturbing and sad real fast...

*backs away slowly*

Ask for a damn PayPal refund and save your humanity man.

I did, as you can see in the chat log she ignores me when ever I ask for it. The only reason she unbanned me was because of this thread. I made one sick joke and instantly i'm a bad guy here, I lost something, she did something bad.

 

[Fay_Galore]

mister Walid,

If you're going to slander a model on a public forum, you can expect people to give their opinion, and it may not be what you'd like to hear. but it is something you can expect.

I also don't think it's very fair on Amber, as Gemma said, also you're request (let's say 'request', not 'demand') to remove the thread and then tell everyone to keep it up. That's not really up to you.

The model's knowledge of the english language is obviously subpar, and I don't think she's going to be able to defend herself on here. I really hope for you that this gets sorted and you get at least something! However, for future it might be wise to spend some time with a model and communicate with her before deciding to drop 1000tokens for a show.

 

[JoleneBrody]

:/... This got super disturbing and sad real fast...

*backs away slowly*

Ask for a damn PayPal refund and save your humanity man.

I did, as you can see in the chat log she ignores me when ever I ask for it. The only reason she unbanned me was because of this thread. I made one sick joke and instantly i'm a bad guy here, I lost something, she did something bad.

No, ask PayPal for a refund. Sheesh. Just because someone wrongs you doesn't mean you get a pass to act like a sick wierdo. You buttered your own toast there.

 

[Walid1107]

mister Walid,

If you're going to slander a model on a public forum, you can expect people to give their opinion, and it may not be what you'd like to hear. but it is something you can expect.

I also don't think it's very fair on Amber, as Gemma said, also you're request (let's say 'request', not 'demand') to remove the thread and then tell everyone to keep it up. That's not really up to you.

The model's knowledge of the english language is obviously subpar, and I don't think she's going to be able to defend herself on here. I really hope for you that this gets sorted and you get at least something! However, for future it might be wise to spend some time with a model and communicate with her before deciding to drop 1000tokens for a show.

Thanks for the advice, I did get two previous shows with her before. And by I am gonna get the thread taken down was basically me saying ill ask a mod to take it down, (and i don't think they will have a problem with it) .

Slander is defamation of character

Definition: a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report: a slander against his good name.

I am not Slandering her at all I am telling the truth, nothing but the truth so help me god :thumbleft:

I get that this is primarily a models forum so she will get natural back up, I thought it was a even playing field and I was wronged and shared my story, later it became a bargaining chip and who can blame me for trying to salvage my EARNED money?

Its not so much the 50$ even though that is substantial to me, it was being played by a model like that, when I have never done such a thing.

:/... This got super disturbing and sad real fast...

*backs away slowly*

Ask for a damn PayPal refund and save your humanity man.

It was a payment to friends or family can't get a refund, and yes I regret the joke now it was not needed.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

Sucks that you even have to spend time on something like this fella. Hope you get reimbursed somehow.

 

[Fay_Galore]

Slander is defamation of character

Definition: a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report: a slander against his good name.

I am not Slandering her at all I am telling the truth, nothing but the truth so help me god :thumbleft:

ah yes, I'm sorry. I got that wrong (translation fault there) you're right. not slander, I might have meant smear. my point was that, wile it's your consumer right to do so, giving such a heavy negative opinion on a performer in public does invite people to give their opinions on you too! it isn't called a forum for nothing

I would actually like you to direct to this (very recent) thread from a fellow-member who at first didn't receive what he paid for either, but, spoiler alert, there's a happy end!

https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/viewt ... 15&t=18215

 

[Walid1107]

Slander is defamation of character

Definition: a malicious, false, and defamatory statement or report: a slander against his good name.

I am not Slandering her at all I am telling the truth, nothing but the truth so help me god :thumbleft:

ah yes, I'm sorry. I got that wrong (translation fault there) you're right. not slander, I might have meant smear. my point was that, wile it's your consumer right to do so, giving such a heavy negative opinion on a performer in public does invite people to give their opinions on you too! it isn't called a forum for nothing

I would actually like you to direct to this (very recent) thread from a fellow-member who at first didn't receive what he paid for either, but, spoiler alert, there's a happy end!

https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/viewt ... 15&t=18215

Don't worry you weren't the only one who got Slander wrong here. My intentions might seem harsh but I feel like shit from what happened I feel like a kid being robbed of an ice cream cone he was saving up all weak for :crybaby: . I didn't over emphasize anything to be overly negative I shared the truth I also shared that she skyped with me twice before, which is a good thing on her part to fulfill her end of an agreement.

I think people are seeing the negatives against the model to highly and what she has done to be nothing. You guys can call me obsessed or sick, but I am just trying to have a normal discussion. I did make one bad joke that I did apologize for but no one seams to care on that front. I hope I get something out of it, this thread might go down, but it would be great if I got any help from it.

Sorry if I ruined any ones day.

I also make a request to get this thread taken down, as It might help me get reimbursed for my losses

Sorry again for being honest, and sharing an experience.

 

[JoleneBrody]

It was a payment to friends or family can't get a refund, and yes I regret the joke now it was not needed.

It's cool man. You're new here and most of us don't know your personality enough to understand that was a joke.

It sucks that this happened to you and I'm sorry. I hope in the future you know to never use paypal, and avoid a repeat. If it had been tokens MFC would have been able to help... they might at least still appreciate a heads up though, as they aren't really fond of scams being run through their site.

Having done two successful Skype shows is pretty darn good grounds to trust the 3rd will happen, getting taken for by someone you felt you could trust is a super shitty and uncomfortable feeling. That kind of icky feeling that hits you right in the stomach, I don't wish that on anyone.
Just be careful not to let your anger drag you into the same bad place you are accusing her of being in.

Edit:
I also don't think a single person on this forum thinks the models in question wasn't super in the wrong... I haven't gathered that at all.
When it started turning into black mail and revenge fucking, shit got weird and uncomfortable real fast. That wasn't about her anymore, is was about the way you were handling what she did in a pretty disturbing manner.

Revenge sex is not a normal behavior. That would make anyone uncomfortable... if you hand't cleared up you were joking I would be sticking to the "sick" part... that doesn't mean she wasn't still wrong.

 

[Walid1107]

It was a payment to friends or family can't get a refund, and yes I regret the joke now it was not needed.

It's cool man. You're new here and most of us don't know your personality enough to understand that was a joke.

It sucks that this happened to you and I'm sorry. I hope in the future you know to never use paypal, and avoid a repeat. If it had been tokens MFC would have been able to help... they might at least still appreciate a heads up though, as they aren't really fond of scams being run through their site.

Having done two successful Skype shows is pretty darn good grounds to trust the 3rd will happen, getting taken for by someone you felt you could trust is a super shitty and uncomfortable feeling. That kind of icky feeling that hits you right in the stomach, I don't wish that on anyone.
Just be careful not to let your anger drag you into the same bad place you are accusing her of being in.

Thank You for being awesome and understanding.