Getting comfortable with a regular model & making requests

[dustinxxxizzle]

There's a model I've been having regular privates with for a while now. They're generally pretty long and about once a month. Unscheduled appointments, almost. She was pretty new when I first visited her and went private with her and was pretty surprised about how laid back I was. I enjoy conversation along with the sexual things and after she realized this, she told me it was pretty refreshing. She confided in me that she didn't really enjoy all the dirty talk that guys did and gave me some examples that seemed kind of extreme. Now, personally, I find the over the top examples she gave kind of off putting, too, but I do like some sort of interaction, I guess. The first couple of times we went private, I felt there was more of that interaction and enjoyed it. Like I said, at the same time, I enjoy how laid back our private chats are, yet sometimes I want to ask her if the sexual parts of the private could be more interactive. I have a couple dilemmas about asking, though. The first being that I obviously know she doesn't enjoy the dirty talk, even though I don't think my requests would be quite as extreme as the examples I've heard her talk about. The second being, since we're both comfortable with each other, I don't want to ruin anything by requesting such interaction. Like, she enjoys me BECAUSE I'm laid back, and will be kind of disappointed if I ask for some dirty talk or something.

Hopefully that made a little bit of sense. I'm just not sure if I'm over thinking it and am wondering if I should even bring it up?

 

[FeliciaClover]

Re: Getting comfortable with a regular model & making reques

You are a paying customer so I say you should ask for what you want. Maybe, if your really nervous just be like hey I was wondering if we could try something new this time? And see how she reacts. If your not getting what you want you can always try a different model and maybe switch it up between the two?

 

[Evvie]

Re: Getting comfortable with a regular model & making reques

I have a couple dilemmas about asking, though. The first being that I obviously know she doesn't enjoy the dirty talk, even though I don't think my requests would be quite as extreme as the examples I've heard her talk about.

The second being, since we're both comfortable with each other, I don't want to ruin anything by requesting such interaction. Like, she enjoys me BECAUSE I'm laid back, and will be kind of disappointed if I ask for some dirty talk or something.

Hopefully that made a little bit of sense. I'm just not sure if I'm over thinking it and am wondering if I should even bring it up?

If you were bugging her for a show three times a week, requesting dirty talk from a model whom you know does not enjoy it, might be out of line.

Once a month does not seem like that big of a deal.

I can, however, say that if I told a regular I didn't like something, and he started to specifically request that, I would be more annoyed with him than I would be in a situation with a stranger.

It is easy to say that it's all about the money, but it isn't. If I had regular enjoyable shows with someone who was cool, and they started to mix in things I didn't like, well, I might not be as happy as I used to be.

Your model friend might be perfectly fine with a little extra for you. It's hard to say.

Try asking, "So I know you don't like dirty talk, but my penis does. I don't want to make you uncomfortable, so please tell me honestly: are you cool with some hot words?" (but you know, less corny). After that you just have to take your word from it.

 

[CancunBeach]

Re: Getting comfortable with a regular model & making reques

Dustin, I feel your pain and I have a great solution for you.

I think many guys including myself wrestle with this. If you don't know a girl, it's much easier to ask her for the "raw" primeval stuff we really want to see. Our ability to ask for what we really want is suppressed sometimes by our need to be perceived as nice. The more you know the girl, the harder it is to ask for the really "dirty" details you really want. After a few months of getting to know a model, you get stuck into a mode where even though there's a client/service relationship, it gets increasingly awkward to ask for anything that may sound crude. So here we are, paying for private/group, looking at their pretty smile and tits only because that's "the acceptable," clean requests, and it's tough to let her know that even though her smile is lovely, you'd really just enjoy staring at her rear end for a while.

I don't know, maybe some of the models would really want us to come out of our shells and ask for what we really want. I think it's harder the more you know a model, and the more you've allowed the sessions to be primarily friendly wholesome.

A solution for you Dustin, create an alternate account which represents your "Fight Club" alternate persona, and go visit these old friends with a totally separate attitude, and ask for what you really want without fear of degrading your other persona's friendship. I think most of us don't mean to be offensive, we just have these primeval urges to see these models in glorious detail and not for just one second, and sometimes it's awesome to be able to ask for and get that if the model is willing.

Also works great for watching. If you are "a friend," you have to sustain conversation, but as another ID or a guest, you can just watch her, which is all we sometimes want.

 

[DevilishAnne]

Re: Getting comfortable with a regular model & making reques

I'd prefer if a guy told me exactly what he was in the mood for.. i have one guy who I've known for over 8 years.. and each time i always ask him what he's in the mood for.. i try to do this with all the folks i interact with.. its kinda nice.. sometimes he wants to down and dirty stuff.. sometimes just simple things.. others he asks what i'm in the mood for.. so maybe making a 2nd account would be good idea so you don't ruin the relationship you have with her now but you still get to fulfill your need. Maybe later talk to her and explain sometimes you like things a little diff.. and see if shes cool going over with you before the show about what you'd like to do during the show so you're both happy and she knows what to expect and you're getting what you paid for.

 

[mynameisbob84]

Re: Getting comfortable with a regular model & making reques

I empathize, yo. When I don't know a model at all, I find it much easier to just blurt out "if I give you some tokens will you help me cum, bb?". But as soon as I get to know them a bit, I tend not to ask for the sexy stuff and just tip for their company.

 

[RoxieRed]

Re: Getting comfortable with a regular model & making reques

I hate knowing that guys struggle with feeling like they can't be the good guy and a horn dog. Most models realize that even the nice guys might like a naughty show. If the dirty talk you want doesn't feel contrived or over the top she might go for it. In my experience, after I get to know a regular, I care more about giving them a show with stuff catered toward their likes. I can get into something I am not normally into if I can think about how much they enjoy it.

However, I really like CancunBeach's solution!

 

[Teagan]

Re: Getting comfortable with a regular model & making reques

Personally i ask every time what my guy is in the mood for in private. I do it on purpose. Yes i remember what we did last time, and the times before, but maybe hes in the mood for different that day. I know im not always in the mood for the same thing. Why should i expect him to be? I give my guys a chance to say if they want different that day. But i do know sometimes once you get to know a model its harder to ask for something different after that.
Now your girl said she doesnt like the more raunchy dirty talk, well youre not asking for that. So ask her if shes comfy with a lil talking during. She may surprise you. As a model it feels great when i know im doing exactly what the guy likes and wants to see. It gets me off even more so.
If you arent comfy asking for a lil more from her and maybe risking how she sees you then i fully love the idea of getting another prem account. With that you can ask for just what you want without any guilt. And since she said she doesnt mind a lil talking youre not asking her to do anything you already know she doesnt like doing. Win win!

 

[katie_christ]

Re: Getting comfortable with a regular model & making reques

if you've gotten to know her over the past months, show her and just ask. "i know you don't like dirty talk but would you mind if i X?" or just "would it offend you if i X?" or third party it "this guy in the lounge said he wanted you to X"...gauge reaction... "would you mind X?" i bet she'd be glad you asked, and you'll probably get what you want. make sure she knows you don't want her uncomfortable.
the alternate account thing sounds good too! unless you being a "new" customer affects what she's comfortable with doing.

 

[LadyLuna]

Re: Getting comfortable with a regular model & making reques

You said about the over the top stuff. Have you asked her "is it all dirty talk you don't like? Or just the stuff that's really out there?" You might be surprised at the reaction.

I don't like dirty talk. But I don't mind a bit of "oh yeah, that's awesome" or the occasional "fuck me harder!" Because for me, the dirty talk is distracting. Anything that I have to actively think about becomes a distraction from the goal of having a good time. A guy feeding me lines seems contrived, but I'm okay with that. I feel weird, but he asked me to do it, so I'll go along with it.

But a guy just saying "talk dirty to me baby" makes me feel put on the spot. My imagination is incredible, but it goes in some really weird places. I do *not* want to accidentally blurt out "your tentacle feels so good in my ass". (yes, I have tentacle rape fantasies, what of it?) Just like when guys ask "what do you usually fantasize about when you masturbate"... I know they don't want to hear "tentacle or sword rape", however true that might be. So I get tongue-tied.

I want to let them see the incredibly sexy fantasies I have where I'm getting gang-banged or tied up and teased to hell, but I can't be sure that it won't be something creepy like the tentacle monster dragging me back to the swamp for some slimey fun.

 

[ComicOzzie]

Re: Getting comfortable with a regular model & making reques

I have a couple dilemmas about asking, though. The first being that I obviously know she doesn't enjoy the dirty talk, even though I don't think my requests would be quite as extreme as the examples I've heard her talk about.

The second being, since we're both comfortable with each other, I don't want to ruin anything by requesting such interaction. Like, she enjoys me BECAUSE I'm laid back, and will be kind of disappointed if I ask for some dirty talk or something.

Hopefully that made a little bit of sense. I'm just not sure if I'm over thinking it and am wondering if I should even bring it up?

If you were bugging her for a show three times a week, requesting dirty talk from a model whom you know does not enjoy it, might be out of line.

Once a month does not seem like that big of a deal.

I can, however, say that if I told a regular I didn't like something, and he started to specifically request that, I would be more annoyed with him than I would be in a situation with a stranger.

It is easy to say that it's all about the money, but it isn't. If I had regular enjoyable shows with someone who was cool, and they started to mix in things I didn't like, well, I might not be as happy as I used to be.

Your model friend might be perfectly fine with a little extra for you. It's hard to say.

Try asking, "So I know you don't like dirty talk, but my penis does. I don't want to make you uncomfortable, so please tell me honestly: are you cool with some hot words?" (but you know, less corny). After that you just have to take your word from it.

I am stealing this line.

 

[camstory]

Re: Getting comfortable with a regular model & making reques

A solution for you Dustin, create an alternate account which represents your "Fight Club" alternate persona, and go visit these old friends with a totally separate attitude, and ask for what you really want without fear of degrading your other persona's friendship. I think most of us don't mean to be offensive, we just have these primeval urges to see these models in glorious detail and not for just one second, and sometimes it's awesome to be able to ask for and get that if the model is willing.

Also works great for watching. If you are "a friend," you have to sustain conversation, but as another ID or a guest, you can just watch her, which is all we sometimes want.

Wow, this blows me away. It's not that I don't like the idea, but I don't think I could do it, and I am really surprised that the Models are good with it. I have three main accounts; 2 created in the first month I was at MFC. Then after I found my first crush, I decided I wanted to incorporate her model nic into mine, so I created a third account. None of the accounts were created to have a different persona, and I think it would feel like a deception... No I know it would feel like a deception, and I don't think that would work for me. When ever I go into a models room and for what ever reason I am in one of the accounts she is not familiar with, I make a point of letting her know right away that, "Hey this is me". Most of the time it is the second thing I say after "Hi". A few times b/c of a heavy conversation in progress, I have waited, b/c it felt rude to break the chat with my explanation of who I am, and even that makes me a bit uncomfortable, being there hidden so to speak.

Dustin if this would work for you, I think it is a good solution. And I don't want to jack the thread, but I am curious, that it would not be something that would upset a model if she found out one of her regs was running a different persona/person on her. Or is it that it would be fine if it was not discovered? The, "what I don't know wont hurt me" sorta thing. You can PM me, or maybe this is worthy of its own thread? (Roxi I am especially curious about why you like this idea so well?) Again I have nothing against the idea, in fact I like it, I just don't think I could do it.

 

[RoxieRed]

Re: Getting comfortable with a regular model & making reques

@Camstory:


I am going to completely just ramble in attempt to answer your question.

I think for the purpose he is describing, it's a great solution.

Sometimes I wish I had separate model accounts to log in to so it'd be easier for the audience to know what kind of mood I am in. Sometimes I am all down for being sexy all the time and doing spanks nonstop and going private every 2 seconds, and sometimes I just wanna chill with no makeup on and talk or be goofy.

You fellas have different moods too, and it's hard to tell what mood you are in based on text only (but you guys can gauge our mood much more easily) Maybe if you are in the mood for down and dirty one account could be the ticket and if you wanna chat and hang out another account would work, too. I know I associate certain usernames with conversation and others with going private.

For me, It comes down to the comfort of the premium.. I don't want a guy to limit his interaction with me because he feels he can't act a certain way with me.

The relationship that two people develop together are completely unique, the kind that I have with one friend isn't the kind I have with another, and different people experience different sides of you. Sometimes it might be easier to just pretend like you are someone else for a while so you an experience a different side of that person. What better way than a different username?

However, if you use your alternate username to try and get the model to disclose info to you or try to use things against her, that is NOT cool.

I hope that those ramblings made sense and answered your question.

 

[dustinxxxizzle]

Re: Getting comfortable with a regular model & making reques

I just wanted to thank everybody for the wonderful advice in this thread and in PMs. I usually have my monthly private with her near the beginning of each month, so it's coming up soon.

The Fight Club persona idea was seriously an insanely awesome idea, but the problem is I know my likes are pretty specific. It would too obviously be me, unless I went for something completely different, which isn't really what I'm looking for.

I can, however, say that if I told a regular I didn't like something, and he started to specifically request that, I would be more annoyed with him than I would be in a situation with a stranger.

It is easy to say that it's all about the money, but it isn't. If I had regular enjoyable shows with someone who was cool, and they started to mix in things I didn't like, well, I might not be as happy as I used to be.

Yeah, that's how I always felt about it. She can probably get the tokens elsewhere, but enjoys our privates because I'm respectful and something different to break up the usual. However, I want to reiterate that my idea of dirty talk isn't really as bad as the horror stories posted here. I just want it to be more verbal, you know? Not for her to go on like a porn star or anything.