This was me...I actually gave some flowers on the 13th in the name of romance (see explanation below), and many tokens a few days before under the same symbolic flag... $10 000 of shame with no personal reward (no thrill, all sacrifice) including 10 000 tokens at the end to a model who banned me but who I relate to so well (10 000+ tokens of shame to finish...lilymarie can confirm).
I was actually thinking of a new ritual for MGTOW for Valentines Day; we need to have more fun with our celebrations. Yellow adoration roses, mixed with the purity of white before Valentines Day, on 13th February. The 14th is a day to just celebrate, relax into the day and do as you please; swords down against gynocentrism until tomorrow when a renewed path will lead us into the next year.
Red pill men have 2 options in regard to this, as a lapel decoration or as an expression of romance for that day (and only that day) to one symbolic woman as a reminder or symbol of what once was or could have been. It has to be the 13th, because the 14th is quite a celebration for us. I really love the idea of us taking 2 days off unsanctioned by society, because we are free to as well.
The story behind Valentine is fascinating, one theory is that he was beheaded (at the very least arrested, later beheaded) by Claudius for secretly marrying soldiers. Claudius believed that soldiers shouldn't be married, as MGTOW I know for real why, so Valentines Day is a celebration of his beheading... a symbolic death of marriage when it doesn't serve men. The yellow roses (roses symbolize memory, yellow adoration) and white flowers (purity and honesty) the day before are the warriors of Claudius empathizing with women. The 13th is very self reflective.
The 14th is a time of certainty and letting go of our ego for us men, the red knight, white knight and black knight all drop their swords as their is no one to fight for; the red, white and dead roses all fall to the ground under foot as we feel our strength rise as our brothers join us... the warriors of Claudius live as we each trace our our own path to freedom.
I had an amazing 2 days... found a symbol of what I once wanted in a woman to acknowledge yesterday (I took the whole day off work to enjoy the romance thinking about it, miss having someone to think of romantically sometimes).
Today I relaxed and worked minimally ignoring my plantation job... Nothing like getting away with doing nothing much sometimes... Romance makes you undisciplined after all. Tomorrow I will take the day off, deciding to work at night and get caught up in new people as a refocused free man; I have loved going my own way.
This time of the year is the only time we get to think of woman as sexual/ romantic objects, it's nice to think about what men once believed in as real and go back in time to enjoy the fantasy.
What a nice sentiment.This time of the year is the only time we get to think of woman as sexual/ romantic objects
Nothing new.You do realise you sound like a lunatic right?
I'm glad it's not just me who was thinkining "Uh, WTH is he talking about? Is he crazy?"You do realise you sound like a lunatic right?
Thank-you Gen it is nice, having an awesome few days of celebration. For men such as myself it becomes really easy to demonize women over that year in terms of your attitude as it hardens; confirmed single women would face a similar risk.What a nice sentiment.
You're such a goddamned piece of work.Thank-you Gen it is nice, having an awesome few days of celebration. For men such as myself it becomes really easy to demonize women over that year in terms of your attitude as it hardens; confirmed single women would face a similar risk.
Given your education and area of study, I'm glad you saw the point... nice back-handed compliment with a delightful element of truth: Women do tire of being treated as romantic/ sexual objects by men, so once a year would be appealing to many women.
Women don't really care one way or the other if men aren't interested in them most of the time... if it were other women they would be mortified: Women tend to live their lives for other women, not to please men, getting male attention is like showing off heels or a handbag, nothing more.
Like any ritual or celebration it is reconfirmation or refreshing of belief. It's the 15th here now so am feeling renewed and inspired; am going to spend the day in the park writing about all of this.
For anyone alone February 14th take a moment to appreciate the clarity of mind, body, and spirit it brings... this is the real you uncorrupted by other's influence, get out in the world today and just be you as you truly are, don't hide the beauty of just being you. Out there the world is full of flowers and beauty, go confidently to take your place beside them.
Why don't MGTOW ever, ya know, go away?
"I love being alone so much that I shamefully spent $10k on the people I want to distance myself from to prove it!" Well, if that's not convincing, I don't know what is...they spend all their time bitching about women and bothering women.
"I love being alone so much that I shamefully spent $10k on the people I want to distance myself from to prove it!" Well, if that's not convincing, I don't know what is...
Given your education and area of study, I'm glad you saw the point... nice back-handed compliment with a delightful element of truth: Women do tire of being treated as romantic/ sexual objects by men, so once a year would be appealing to many women.
Women don't really care one way or the other if men aren't interested in them most of the time... if it were other women they would be mortified: Women tend to live their lives for other women, not to please men, getting male attention is like showing off heels or a handbag, nothing more.
I feel like we don't hear about the movement often in a normal sense because men actually utilizing it as a tool to get through life just do. And then there's this guy who just nonstop talks about it and references it and then spite-tips models in the name of it, and it's just a tad psychotic to me.It doesn't sound like a bad movement on the surface - stop worrying about women, just focus on yourself and things that make you happy with yourself, something a lot of people could benefit from really.
But instead of actually doing that, they spend all their time bitching about women and bothering women. I thought the point was to not?
I believe him. (I think it was a 10,000 tip though not $10k)Part of me wants to say he's full of shit when it comes to tipping someone $10K just so he can be an ass. Part of me wants to say that I could see someone doing it, based off of how many spiteful dumbasses there are on camsites.
All of me thinks he's got a little more than a screw loose, and needs to find some help before he turns into the next Ted Bundy.
I think the only reason he's even on this forum is because he knows I don't want him here (psst nobody does actually).
I didn't realize being around me was so freakin' irresistible.Huh, there is common theme of banned men who won't go away on this forum.
This quote was a fair comment... MGTOW don't distance themselves from women, they say no to romantic/ emotionally attached relationships with women especially marriage/ cohabitation. For many porn and sex is fine; I actually think this is ill advised, more a waste of time. Having said that if you can still get it up for some porn or casual sex, why not do so every now and then."I love being alone so much that I shamefully spent $10k on the people I want to distance myself from to prove it!"
It is a misogynistic view because most women or people in general don't act like that. You clearly have prejudices.Audri I believe it 100%.
I have no idea what half the words in this thread even mean, but what could possibly be entertaining about two adult humans acting like asses to hurt each other and hurting their children in the crossfire? ffs, now.SaffronB., when it comes to how much MGTOW think of women, 'you wouldn't care what people think of you if only you knew how little they did"... this goes both ways (MGTOW for women and women for men). We still have to have women in our lives and the new perspective is absolutely entertaining.
This weekend I saw a man fight with his GF, walking out on her leaving her with 2 prams, a toddler, and a younger child. I was going to offer to help her get somewhere cool, perhaps push a pram to shade, but then she released the toddler in an attempt to get him back, running to dad who grabbed him and continued walking away. Then the drama began; long story short he got free leaving both kids with mum. My point is when the anti-male bias is removed and you see the truth the world of people is amazing; it just all makes sense, it really is like waking from a dream. This is why MGTOW are so entertained by male/ female interaction when it catches their attention.
I didn't share all of the drama, my point is that men going their own way must still face dealing with the troubles around women in the world; we can't really leave most of the time. We take an interest in women as women because we must, the entertainment factor comes only from the perspective, not the behaviour we face.I have no idea what half the words in this thread even mean, but what could possibly be entertaining about two adult humans acting like asses to hurt each other and hurting their children in the crossfire? ffs, now.
There is nothing misogynistic about saying that men mean as much to women as hand-bags or other accessories... I am only suggesting that women aren't more interested in men than any other object they love.It is a misogynistic view because most women or people in general don't act like that. You clearly have prejudices.
They're both twats. Neither of them took a high road. Neither of them even took a higher road than the other. Your dude left his children in public with a screaming mother. If you've been turned against women so far that you can't see those parents as (at least) equally terrible, it might be time to reassess who you're spending time with. I'm saying this with some care. I don't think you were always this way. The incel stuff is poisoning you. Any group think can do that to someone who is vulnerable to it. It's time to step away from the macho stuff and recollect your own thoughts. Is all this really who you want to be or how you want to feel? Don't get me wrong. I'm not who or where I want to be in life completely either. We're all just flopping around trying to get somewhere. I'm just wondering if you are enjoying this path you've set out on and if you think it's going somewhere pleasant for you?I didn't share all of the drama, my point is that men going their own way must still face dealing with the troubles around women in the world; we can't really leave most of the time. We take an interest in women as women because we must, the entertainment factor comes only from the perspective, not the behaviour we face.
Don't get me wrong, I did act on this drama I described in the only way possible... I spoke to the guy sharing with him that I was on his side in this case (she accused him of cheating on her, I could see it was all based on jealousy over some silly comment, designed for a certain reaction). The result of this was he left peacefully; it was at high risk of turning violent as she was agitating him for a violent response; definitely not healthy for anyone. I was always thinking of their children even if neither of them were unless faced by one of them. I do wish he had been able to keep the older child who ran to him as mum was super crazy and he was pretty calm.