Facial close up hitachi/orgasm show?

[PinkiePixi]

So I asked this in the model-only section, but I wanted to get a guys perspective on it since you are all the representation of the customer base that I want to appeal to!

So up until now Ive been strictly no pussy shot/no masturbation, but now Im accepting requests for skype hitachi shows where I make very clear that there will be no pussy shot, the focus will be on my face so they can watch my expressions and hear me. Im also going to position myself so that the hitachi can be seen (handle at least), and they can see my hands moving and such to give them a bit more to watch! Im not prude - I just want to avoid straight up pussy shots (clothed or unclothed). Ive been thinking about doing a public show like that, but with a countdown of course. What do you think I should call it? I dont want to call it a hitachi cumshow because I feel like theyll all be let down that its not a traditional explicit cumshow, but I cant fit more details into the topic and I dont feel like repeating it a thousand times so that people who tip wont get upset/disappointed. And what do you think is a fair countdown? My CS is only in the low 700's usually, and unless I have one of a *very* few generous tippers (who claim they love me/will be regulars - but only one so far has actually come back a 2nd time) - I really make hardly anything in tips. I was thinking 200tkns to topless (Im leaving my panties on), then an additional 300tkns till show. But is that asking too much? Any less than that and I feel like Im selling myself short - but Im also wondering if the tips will start rolling in after the show starts, in that case is it worth it having a lower countdown? Last few times Ive had a countdown (200 till topless) Ive never even made them. Not that I have anything to lose by trying though...

PlayboyMegan suggested calling it a "Facial Close-up, Orgasm Show" - do you think thats a good idea? Do you think even doing such a show is a good idea? Ive never seen any other girls do one before, but Im not comfortable doing a traditional explicit cumshow. I thought this was a nice in between that helped me preserve a bit of modesty. Any advice is appreciated!

 

[AmyLemon]

Don't worry too much about being super duper specific about what isn't going to happen!

Posting: "200 tokens to tits out party!!!" is perfectly reasonable, and posting: "300 tokens to Hitachi fun times & Sexy ecstasy O Face!!!" is also perfectly reasonable... You don't HAVE to specify that the show won't include zoomed in labia As long as you actually take your top off after 200 tokens, and then provide Hitachi fun times and a sexy ecstasy O face you will have delivered precisely what you advertised.

If anyone tries to argue that they felt you mislead them into believing a panties-off-close-up-high-def-pussy-juice-dripping-twitching-asshole-orgasm-shot was going to part of the program - ban them for being an idiot because you made no such promise and if they spent more than 20 minutes in your room, or presumably read your profile, they'd be well informed in advance as to your particular personal boundaries. It's enough to just be a model who says what she means and means what she says and delivers appropriately, you don't have to spend endless moments leading up to your own orgasm educating every new visitor that you can, and intend to, orgasm with your panties still on and why. Models grossly overestimate how much moment-to-moment education and coddling premiums need because the silly men who scream "I INFERRED THE THERE WOULD BE ANAL ON MY OWN, THIS IS BULLSHIT" are the loudest in the community.

Instead of approaching it from a insecure, "I need everyone to be well aware that they're not getting splayed vag at the end of this countdown" position you should OWN your panty-wearing choice! IE: go ahead and have a cumtastic time with the hitachi and your panties, and mention to the room that you'll send the panties to the highest tipper. VOILA! The reasoning behind wearing panties immediately shifts from "I'm not comfortable yet with full nudity" to "which one of you deviants want my pussy juice soaked panties?"

Example:
Random dude in your chatroom says : "BB TAKE PANTIES OFF SHOW PUSSY"

Your first instinct might be to patiently explain and define your comfort levels, and the philosophies behind them, and try to justify yourself and your position... but what you probably should say is...

"Shaddup! These panties aren't going to soak themselves!"

This type of show you're describing is exactly what I do when I do a "public show" (although I typically get carried away in my own ecstasy and show more than what you're planning since I kind of stop caring a few moments before orgasm, and officially stop caring after orgasm haha) and yes you'll have the odd fool complaining that you're doing it wrong from his perspective but on the whole members really dig this type of genuinely erotic show. A proper orgasm is very hot for a proper man to witness and a refreshing break from hysterical orifice banging.

The key to doing a "face of ecstasy" show is to really, really, genuinely get into it. Don't - whatever you do- look at the chat unless you're responding to a tip note (or better yet, just don't respond to anything and thank everyone afterwards so you can keep your focus, but you mentioned you don't really have regulars so your new tippers might be delicate and need more immediate attention, where a good regulars would be thrilled to get a little "OMG thank you for the tip earlier and THANKYOU for the mindblowing orgasm, I got lost in myself but I wanted to high five u for supporting me during my cumtastic moment!") But yeah, the only way this type of show flies is if you're genuinely out of your mind enjoying it and that will bring joy to the room. Under achievers will still be underachievers and say negative things but the real men of MFC will be stoked to witness such a marvelous magical event!

 

[RoxieRed]

My goodness, Lemon is just right on all the time.

 

[Shaun__]

PlayboyMegan suggested calling it a "Facial Close-up, Orgasm Show" - do you think thats a good idea? Do you think even doing such a show is a good idea? Ive never seen any other girls do one before, but Im not comfortable doing a traditional explicit cumshow. I thought this was a nice in between that helped me preserve a bit of modesty. Any advice is appreciated!

I do not really care about public or group shows, but I have seen models making money from doing that. In case you decide to do panty on full body shows as well I will also say I think that the models who just hold the vibrator on their clitoris seem kind of unexciting, and maybe you may want to consider straddling or laying on it and thrusting to add pazazz. That is just my opinion of course, and your audience or body may prefer other things.

 

[LolasLiger]

Actually I have to disagree with you there, LovelyLemon. I am the first to say that a model has the right to say and do whatevr she wants in her room. Members are guests and so should behave appropriately. BUT at the same time, it isn't always the members' fault if they infer something in one model's room, when the standards are set by what the majority of models do....in this case, hitachi shows are always explicit to the degree that members see full body shots, including the genitals. I admire the OP for sticking to what she feels comfortable with. But new members are not mind readers. They see every other model doing open crotch shots....they are not to know this room is very different unless they are told so.

Sure there are always members who will complain no matter what. But for the decent members, the ones who maybe happy with what is being offered (only facial expressions) they need to be able to make an informed choice. Just as it beholden for members to respect a model, it is just as beholden for models to respect members. If the information does not fit in the topic, then a banner on the profile about the rules of the show is a courtesy, with a comment in the topic pointing them to it.

 

[AmyLemon]

Late Edit:

Remember always that we live in a very damned-if-you-do and damned-if-you-don't, you'll never please all the viewers all the time, realm of existence

Remember always that the dudes who are loudly expressing to you that they're disappointed/pissed/scandalized by the fact you don't even have your panties off ARE THE SAME DUDES who would, in a different room, tell a girl who IS doing full anal penetration in her public shows that she's not doing it deep/hard/fast enough... So just come to terms with that and be at peace , when you do your life as a model gets much easier.

 

[mynameisbob84]

Actually I have to disagree with you there, LovelyLemon. I am the first to say that a model has the right to say and do whatevr she wants in her room. Members are guests and so should behave appropriately. BUT at the same time, it isn't always the members' fault if they infer something in one model's room, when the standards are set by what the majority of models do....in this case, hitachi shows are always explicit to the degree that members see full body shots, including the genitals. I admire the OP for sticking to what she feels comfortable with. But new members are not mind readers. They see every other model doing open crotch shots....they are not to know this room is very different unless they are told so.

Sure there are always members who will complain no matter what. But for the decent members, the ones who maybe happy with what is being offered (only facial expressions) they need to be able to make an informed choice. Just as it beholden for members to respect a model, it is just as beholden for models to respect members. If the information does not fit in the topic, then a banner on the profile about the rules of the show is a courtesy, with a comment in the topic pointing them to it.

If the topic read "Hitachi Cum Show" or similar, then yeah, you'd expect to see some vajayjay. But "Facial Close-up, Orgasm Show" is so clear, that anybody tipping expecting to see anything than the model's face when she cums should be wearing full body armour whenever they handle scissors. You know, for their own safety. Cos'... they be dumb.

 

[AmberCutie]

There is an adult site called Beautiful Agony that is completely dedicated to this fetish. I can assure you, some will enjoy it. But as Bob pointed out, if you advertise it with bad wording, a lot of people will feel duped or have more reason to complain, so be careful with that.

 

[LadyLuna]

I say "O-face show" is probably the shortest title for the show you're selling without any misleading things whatsoever. Yes, you'll end up having to tell them what the show is at first, but have it explained thoroughly in your profile and it will cut down on that a bit. Anyone who won't get it from reading your profile would need the explanation no matter how thoroughly you describe it in your topic anyway.

(seriously, I had a topic that said "5 mins of nudity in 300 toks", and people STILL didn't understand that when I had 300 tokens, I would get naked for 5 minutes. "Are you going to finger yourself?" "Will there be a strip tease?" "will there be sexy dancing?" "is this a lotion show?" :roll: So I gave up trying to be too clear in the topics, and just dealt with answering everyone's questions about the show.)

 

[gigolo_joe]

Mute guest & basics they seemed to be the most vocal & demanding. Do the show the way you are comfortable with & if tippers complain consider adjusting next show if so inclined. If I tipped 200 tokens and didn't see what I thought I was going to see I would just move on no sense in getting into a pissing contest over a few hundred tokens.

 

[PinkiePixi]

Thank you guys for the input and advice!!!

The reasoning behind wearing panties immediately shifts from "I'm not comfortable yet with full nudity" to "which one of you deviants want my pussy juice soaked panties?"

Ill use that as reasoning anyway, but I still dont want to surprise them with a show thats more modest than what they expected! But Im also wary to do that, because honestly my tips are few and far between, and typically not super high - so I very well may end up eating the cost of the panties/shipping if the highest tip is like 50tkns.

the standards are set by what the majority of models do....in this case, hitachi shows are always explicit to the degree that members see full body shots, including the genitals.

I completely agree, which is why I didnt want to call it a hitachi/cumshow. I would rather be upfront and honest and get tips that way rather than rake in tips from people I may have mislead who are then likely to get upset with me.

Remember always that we live in a very damned-if-you-do and damned-if-you-don't, you'll never please all the viewers all the time, realm of existence

Hah no shit, thats the motto I live my life by! Sometimes I need to remind myself of it though, Im far too much of a "pleaser" type and sometimes forget that its not possible to make everybody happy, and if I do - then I probably wont be.

"Facial Close-up, Orgasm Show" is so clear, that anybody tipping expecting to see anything than the model's face when she cums should be wearing full body armour whenever they handle scissors. You know, for their own safety. Cos'... they be dumb.

I lol'd so hard! Haha!

But as Bob pointed out, if you advertise it with bad wording, a lot of people will feel duped or have more reason to complain, so be careful with that.

Thats exactly what Im trying to avoid!

I say "O-face show" is probably the shortest title for the show you're selling without any misleading things whatsoever. Yes, you'll end up having to tell them what the show is at first, but have it explained thoroughly in your profile and it will cut down on that a bit.

I think thats the best idea yet! Decent title and Ill put a blurb at the top of my profile and point them to it! Thank you Luna!

Do the show the way you are comfortable with & if tippers complain consider adjusting next show if so inclined. If I tipped 200 tokens and didn't see what I thought I was going to see I would just move on no sense in getting into a pissing contest over a few hundred tokens.

Yeah but not everybody may be as forgiving as you, after all this is the internet... and a lot of guys are prone to feel entitled to us, even more so if they tipped towards something (and to a degree in that scenario - they are) From my experience with the general population of MFC - the trolls and complainers seem to outnumber the good folks by plenty! I just want to avoid misleading anybody in the first place, so the generous and kind tippers similar to yourself will be happy and continue to come back, while the meaner ones can only blame themselves for their displeasure.

 

[skiphop90]

I don't know if I'm in the minority or not, but personally, the face is what I spend most time looking at during shows / porn / sex. I guess it's the obvious enjoyment rather than the action that is a turn on.

 

[PlayboyMegan]

I don't know if I'm in the minority or not, but personally, the face is what I spend most time looking at during shows / porn / sex. I guess it's the obvious enjoyment rather than the action that is a turn on.

It's totally 50/50. But since you do not do hardcore, you don't want the "bb, put it in!" guys in your room, anyways.

 

[spankamber]

"I can't give you a sure-fire formula for success, but I can give you a formula for failure: Try to please everybody all the time."
– Herbert Bayard Swope

 

[LacieLaPlante]

My 'beautiful Agony" video is one of my top sellers! Guys really love it, so don't worry. Perhaps if you advertise it as "beautiful agony" and there will be no mistaking what it's about - for the most part.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

I wouldn't worry about it, it's pretty much always non tippers who complain about stuff, or people who tip 10 tokens and expect you to change the show around.

I was tipped 1000 tokens the other day, completing my cumshow countdown, and the request was that I put on a silk nightdress and cum in it. Guys kept coming in being like 'take the dress off bb' some even tipped (a whole 20 tokens!!) for me to take the dress off (I hate that, just because my pussy's out and I'm playing it means I'll take an item of clothing off for under a pound!!). Fact is, that guy tipped for pretty much the entire countdown, that was what he wanted, everyone else are freeloaders, they can feck off!

I also had it when I brought a couple of my non cam girl friends on cam with me, we were tipped a lot for very very silly things, the guys went crazy for it, it was a very fun night. None of the tippers complained that we made 10000 tokens yet only got as far as kissing, a tiny bit of pussy flashing and a 3way bj with a toy. But for the next week after that I had a few disgruntled freeloaders complaining about how we ripped everyone off etc! It's like, mate, you got a free show, to be ripped off you'd have to pay for it!

My last few privates have been focused on my face and in fact no spread pussy etc, their request, not mine. Actually I think I prefer the lie back and think of England approach. In fact, I internally hum our national anthem! haha or not...
If you keep guys in the room on the ball that you're keeping your underwear on, then they tip knowing that. If any tippers afterwards come in complaining, they can bugger off.

As for how much you want to make, I would never make the assumption that people will tip in show or after show, sometimes I get loads of tips then, but more often than not people stay silent and don't tip, probably busy wanking. I'd say you can charge anywhere inbetween 700 and a 1000 for it at your camscore, but it's really what you're comfortable with. I'd put it as something you're aiming to get, and any additional tips are extra

 

[LailaBaise]

hysterical orifice banging

 

[Marokite]

"O-face show" is what we had dubbed it in Kori_Love's room. Usually that title is followed with "No Pussy shots" or similar wording. Since Kori doesn't do public insertion shows, this was the natural choice. She could use her Hitachi with toy attachment or just a glass toy, and fully enjoy herself. I have to say that it is a kind of show I enjoy very much. If you tend to have sexy expressions and sounds, I say go for it.

 

[AshleyNicole_]

I do this type of show sometimes...it's my secret cum. I don't do public penetration, so this gives me the option of still cumming how I want without showing too much. Plus the standard Hitachi on clit shot can be boring... I actually switched from a Hitachi cum show with pussy to a face show mid show this past week because I wasn't going to cum without having something in me. My guys were cool with it, I just told them point blank that I could either not cum or I could cum and they could just see my face while I do so. I refuse to fake and they appreciate that.

You have to do what you feel comfortable with. Doing anything more than that and you are going to end up resenting this job. My comfort level changes by day.

 

[PinkiePixi]

Thanks everyone! I thought I would let you all know, I did it the other night and it went off fantastically! Even made a 1-50 board clear (though it was mostly thanks to two people). I called it an o-face show, and I actually showed more than my face so the guys were actually pleasantly surprised. Once the show started, I did it as a control show (gagging, hitachi speed) and that went over really well also! I muted guests and basics, and only a couple of people came in and said something along the lines of "show pussy bb" - and then someone would politely inform them that it was an o-face show, so no pussy.

Yay! Im thinking about doing another one tonight... though maybe without the board clear - I think that was just pure luck!

 

[Shaun__]

I am glad it was successful for you PinkiePixi.

 

[AmyLemon]

Yay! Good for you doll!

 

[Crumb]

I've known two models that did these types of shows... and I loved these shows more than the 'in your face penetration' shows I've seen other models do.

one called it a "Sneaky" (because she was being sneaky about it and not letting anyone see) and the other called it "hidden hitachi cum show" (we viewers had a choice, panties on hitachi or panties off but cam was angled so that we saw boobs and face while she did her thing)

I've at times missed squirt because I was watching a models face wanting to see O-face, instead of the 'action'