Debate on Language, Flags... Stuff...

[SoTxBob]

Without getting my feet wet from pissing on a rock here... I'm still of the opinion that its all relative to where the website resides or was created.... MFC is USA and so 'stars n bars' represent the language of English on this site. I have been to other sites from other parts of the world and its a toss up which flag represents it. I've seen the union jack, stars n bars as well as the Aussie flag... all depending on what they see as common to their home audience for recognition of the language.

'Nau take that bug out yo ass and all yall git over yo damn selves cuz you aint no better than the next guy or gal.' :lol:

 

[LindseyDoll]

Here's a question.
Should someone who speaks both English, and French save space by using a Canadian flag?

 

[Nordling]

I think, Shaun, you're taking this way too seriously. It's not about "daring" to do something or any other earth shattering actions. It's about what nation's flag is most appropriate to symbolize the English language. the word, once again, "english" is a form of the word "england." To use a collection of states cobbled together into a country with nine bazillion dialects of its mother country as that symbol isn't so much arrogant as it is silly. If someone wants to use Luxembourg's flag to symbolize English language, I'm not going feel insulted, but I may giggle a lot.

And I'm no Anglophile. My ancestry is from Norway. What if someone used the Greenland flag to symbolize the Norwegian language? I mean, Greenland was first colonized by Norwegian Vikings, so... Oh, yeah, almost no one in Greenland speaks Norwegian? So? lol

 

[Nordling]

Here's a question.
Should someone who speaks both English, and French save space by using a Canadian flag?

:lol: Ha ha! I like how you think.

Now someone will jump in and claim Louisiana is better for "both English and French." lol

 

[SoTxBob]

Here's a question.
Should someone who speaks both English, and French save space by using a Canadian flag?

:lol: Ha ha! I like how you think.

Now someone will jump in and claim Louisiana is better for "both English and French." lol

Oh no... dont give 'em any ideas.. 'Coonass' is hard even for me to understand... :lol:

 

[Shaun__]

I think, Shaun, you're taking this way too seriously. It's not about "daring" to do something or any other earth shattering actions. It's about what nation's flag is most appropriate to symbolize the English language. the word, once again, "english" is a form of the word "england." To use a collection of states cobbled together into a country with nine bazillion dialects of its mother country as that symbol isn't so much arrogant as it is silly. If someone wants to use Luxembourg's flag to symbolize English language, I'm not going feel insulted, but I may giggle a lot.

And I'm no Anglophile. My ancestry is from Norway. What if someone used the Greenland flag to symbolize the Norwegian language? I mean, Greenland was first colonized by Norwegian Vikings, so... Oh, yeah, almost no one in Greenland speaks Norwegian? So? lol

People keep telling me I take things to seriously then spend days arguing with me with for some reason.

Why don't you think we should use the flag of England, since your argument seems to be it is called English not Americanian? I keep seeing people say the Union Jack, but that is not the English flag. Also you do know American accents are closer to what the English spoke centuries ago than what the modern British use? Calling it a cobbled together thing is really unfair.

 

[Nordling]

I think, Shaun, you're taking this way too seriously. It's not about "daring" to do something or any other earth shattering actions. It's about what nation's flag is most appropriate to symbolize the English language. the word, once again, "english" is a form of the word "england." To use a collection of states cobbled together into a country with nine bazillion dialects of its mother country as that symbol isn't so much arrogant as it is silly. If someone wants to use Luxembourg's flag to symbolize English language, I'm not going feel insulted, but I may giggle a lot.

And I'm no Anglophile. My ancestry is from Norway. What if someone used the Greenland flag to symbolize the Norwegian language? I mean, Greenland was first colonized by Norwegian Vikings, so... Oh, yeah, almost no one in Greenland speaks Norwegian? So? lol

People keep telling me I take things to seriously then spend days arguing with me with for some reason.

Why don't you think we should use the flag of England, since your argument seems to be it is called English not Americanian? I keep seeing people say the Union Jack, but that is not the English flag. Also you do know American accents are closer to what the English spoke centuries ago than what the modern British use? Calling it a cobbled together thing is really unfair.

Simply because few people outside of the UK even recognize what the Flag of England even looks like. The Union Jack represents a combined Kingdom, which not only speaks English but includes the home to English's origins. And almost everyone recognizes it. And once again, we spend days arguing (not just with you) on a subject that is of minor importance at best because 1. It's fun to argue! and 2. Because of it's lack of importance, it's a perfect subject to argue about because there's less chance anyone's feelings will get hurt.

 

[Shaun__]

Simply because few people outside of the UK even recognize what the Flag of England even looks like. The Union Jack represents a combined Kingdom, which not only speaks English but includes the home to English's origins. And almost everyone recognizes it. And once again, we spend days arguing (not just with you) on a subject that is of minor importance at best because 1. It's fun to argue! and 2. Because of it's lack of importance, it's a perfect subject to argue about because there's less chance anyone's feelings will get hurt.

So they use the Union Jack for the same reason you could use the Stars and Stripes? People all over the world associate it with English. Also to be fair and have full disclosure I looked up the flag of England yesterday, and that is how I know what it looks like. Like Luna I am bad at geography.

 

[Nordling]

Simply because few people outside of the UK even recognize what the Flag of England even looks like. The Union Jack represents a combined Kingdom, which not only speaks English but includes the home to English's origins. And almost everyone recognizes it. And once again, we spend days arguing (not just with you) on a subject that is of minor importance at best because 1. It's fun to argue! and 2. Because of it's lack of importance, it's a perfect subject to argue about because there's less chance anyone's feelings will get hurt.

So they use the Union Jack for the same reason you could use the Stars and Stripes? People all over the world associate it with English. Also to be fair and have full disclosure I looked up the flag of England yesterday, and that is how I know what it looks like. Like Luna I am bad at geography.

Well, yeah, recognition is important, after all, symbols are meant to inform, but that's no reason to be inappropriate either. Union Jack = "I speak English!" Stars and Stripes = "Hey, I live in the US!"

 

[Jupiter551]

Also you do know American accents are closer to what the English spoke centuries ago than what the modern British use? Calling it a cobbled together thing is really unfair.

How do you know what accents were like hundreds of years ago? I'm pretty sure Welsh, Irish and Scottish accents, as well as many areas of rural England are far more "authentic" for that than American accents.

This debate was never about the way you use the language, or your right to use it...it's about inappropriate labelling. Can I put up a sign on my shop with a Smith & Wesson logo and substitute the "Made in USA" part for "Made in Australia"? No, because a) that's rude and b) it's just straight-up incorrect.

You seriously get offended by this? I don't understand why you can't appreciate something that belongs to another culture without trying to assimilate and Americanise it (and I'm not even talking language in this example but hell, Americanisation of English IS a perfect example) - like for instance TV shows - take The Office, or Shameless, or any one of dozens of "foreign" films that your audience is, forgive me for saying it but, by and large too xenophobic to enjoy unless it's remade into an American version, kind of like taking an actual slice of cheese and turn it into an individually wrapped Kraft Single.

We don't do that to your stuff though, or other countries stuff. We take it as it comes, appreciate stuff in their original forms, give credit to the originating culture, and celebrate diversity.

 

[Kradek]

something that belongs to another culture

Next up, math. Who owns it?! Inquiring minds need to know. I need an appropriate flag to mark my equations.

Idea for fixing England's economy; licensing fees for English. Seriously.

 

[Shaun__]

Well, yeah, recognition is important, after all, symbols are meant to inform, but that's no reason to be inappropriate either. Union Jack = "I speak English!" Stars and Stripes = "Hey, I live in the US!"

So what do people who want to let everyone know they live in the United Kingdom use to tell people they live there since their flag just says what language they use?

How do you know what accents were like hundreds of years ago? I'm pretty sure Welsh, Irish and Scottish accents, as well as many areas of rural England are far more "authentic" for that than American accents.

Between the 1600's and 1800's it shifted to a non-rhotic form in England. As an English Major you should know that.

This debate was never about the way you use the language, or your right to use it...it's about inappropriate labelling. Can I put up a sign on my shop with a Smith & Wesson logo and substitute the "Made in USA" part for "Made in Australia"? No, because a) that's rude and b) it's just straight-up incorrect.

I know some people in movies let guns do the talking, but that is not a language.

You seriously get offended by this? I don't understand why you can't appreciate something that belongs to another culture without trying to assimilate and Americanise it (and I'm not even talking language in this example but hell, Americanisation of English IS a perfect example) - like for instance TV shows - take The Office, or Shameless, or any one of dozens of "foreign" films that your audience is, forgive me for saying it but, by and large too xenophobic to enjoy unless it's remade into an American version, kind of like taking an actual slice of cheese and turn it into an individually wrapped Kraft Single.

I am not the person saying only one country has the right to represent the English language. I got offended by your attitude, your WTF. English has been a part of American culture since the founding documents of our original colonies were written in it. We did not steal it, as colonies we were a part of the British Empire. You know the place that is now know as the United Kingdom? We did not wake up last week and decide to stop using French and switch to English. It is our culture, your culture, and England's culture. If they did not want that they should not have started colonies all over the world.

Everybody with any sense knows that the original British versions of those shows are better, but that is what BBC America, and the streaming services are for.

We don't do that to your stuff though, or other countries stuff. We take it as it comes, appreciate stuff in their original forms, give credit to the originating culture, and celebrate diversity.

English started in what is now mainland Europe and was spread by conquers into the islands were it started to grow. Your arguments that that does not count are completely without basis. The only way England can claim to have to created English is to take one small slice of time and say this point is what counts, and nothing before or after.

 

[Nordling]

Well, yeah, recognition is important, after all, symbols are meant to inform, but that's no reason to be inappropriate either. Union Jack = "I speak English!" Stars and Stripes = "Hey, I live in the US!"

So what do people who want to let everyone know they live in the United Kingdom use to tell people they live there since their flag just says what language they use?

How do you know what accents were like hundreds of years ago? I'm pretty sure Welsh, Irish and Scottish accents, as well as many areas of rural England are far more "authentic" for that than American accents.

Between the 1600's and 1800's it shifted to a non-rhotic form in England. As an English Major you should know that.

This debate was never about the way you use the language, or your right to use it...it's about inappropriate labelling. Can I put up a sign on my shop with a Smith & Wesson logo and substitute the "Made in USA" part for "Made in Australia"? No, because a) that's rude and b) it's just straight-up incorrect.

I know some people in movies let guns do the talking, but that is not a language.

You seriously get offended by this? I don't understand why you can't appreciate something that belongs to another culture without trying to assimilate and Americanise it (and I'm not even talking language in this example but hell, Americanisation of English IS a perfect example) - like for instance TV shows - take The Office, or Shameless, or any one of dozens of "foreign" films that your audience is, forgive me for saying it but, by and large too xenophobic to enjoy unless it's remade into an American version, kind of like taking an actual slice of cheese and turn it into an individually wrapped Kraft Single.

I am not the person saying only one country has the right to represent the English language. I got offended by your attitude, your WTF. English has been a part of American culture since the founding documents of our original colonies were written in it. We did not steal it, as colonies we were a part of the British Empire. You know the place that is now know as the United Kingdom? We did not wake up last week and decide to stop using French and switch to English. It is our culture, your culture, and England's culture. If they did not want that they should not have started colonies all over the world.

Everybody with any sense knows that the original British versions of those shows are better, but that is what BBC America, and the streaming services are for.

We don't do that to your stuff though, or other countries stuff. We take it as it comes, appreciate stuff in their original forms, give credit to the originating culture, and celebrate diversity.

English started in what is now mainland Europe and was spread by conquers into the islands were it started to grow. Your arguments that that does not count are completely without basis. The only way England can claim to have to created English is to take one small slice of time and say this point is what counts, and nothing before or after.

No, English started in England. It has ANCESTORS in mainland Europe, yes, but those languages were not English, they were, at best PRECURSORS. English, in a form that would be understandable today, in London, San Francisco, Perth, Christchurch or Vancouver, was created in England.

 

[Shaun__]

No, English started in England. It has ANCESTORS in mainland Europe, yes, but those languages were not English, they were, at best PRECURSORS. English, in a form that would be understandable today, in London, San Francisco, Perth, Christchurch or Vancouver, was created in England.

Let me ask you this then if England had been invaded by the French and the English driven out would you still use that country to represent the English language?

No, you would not, because the people are what is important not the dirt they stand on. You and others keep claiming the dirt is what is important, but it is and always has been the people. That is why I brought up Israel earlier. Israel was founded in 1947, but Hebrew is much older than that. Nobody would ever deny that Israel is the home of it though, because the people are there.

No matter how much England tries to claim it, English belongs to the people. When they spread across the globe they took their culture with them. What several people on this forum are basically doing is trying to deny Americans their heritage. Their past. Their ancestors. You do not have the power to do that. No one does.

That kind of behavior is the same thing done to slaves when they crossed the ocean. They were beaten and made to forget their past. This was done, because their memories gave them strength and hope. Even today when they try to reclaim their culture they are often mocked and ridiculed, but every day somewhere a person asks where they came from and starts to look. Crossing an ocean does not change a person's blood or anything else. You bring everything with you.

I am still waiting for someone to tell me why my ancestors stopped counting when theirs still do, but no one can. Mine are of equal importance and everyone knows it. I am not saying you can not use the UK flag, I am saying I or anyone else could use my flag, if we foolishly chose to not use a better method of conveying language choice.

 

[Nordling]

No, English started in England. It has ANCESTORS in mainland Europe, yes, but those languages were not English, they were, at best PRECURSORS. English, in a form that would be understandable today, in London, San Francisco, Perth, Christchurch or Vancouver, was created in England.

Let me ask you this then if England had been invaded by the French and the English driven out would you still use that country to represent the English language?

No, you would not, because the people are what is important not the dirt they stand on. You and others keep claiming the dirt is what is important, but it is and always has been the people. That is why I brought up Israel earlier. Israel was founded in 1947, but Hebrew is much older than that. Nobody would ever deny that Israel is the home of it though, because the people are there.

No matter how much England tries to claim it, English belongs to the people. When they spread across the globe they took their culture with them. What several people on this forum are basically doing is trying to deny Americans their heritage. Their past. Their ancestors. You do not have the power to do that. No one does.

That kind of behavior is the same thing done to slaves when they crossed the ocean. They were beaten and made to forget their past. This was done, because their memories gave them strength and hope. Even today when they try to reclaim their culture they are often mocked and ridiculed, but every day somewhere a person asks where they came from and starts to look. Crossing an ocean does not change a person's blood or anything else. You bring everything with you.

I am still waiting for someone to tell me why my ancestors stopped counting when theirs still do, but no one can. Mine are of equal importance and everyone knows it. I am not saying you can not use the UK flag, I am saying I or anyone else could use my flag, if we foolishly chose to not use a better method of conveying language choice.

Straw dog. No one is attempting to take our American culture away from us. Certainly, ALSO, the many dialects of English spoken in the US is part of that culture. But that's not what the OP is about, which is: WHICH NATIONAL FLAG IS MOST APPROPRIATE TO SYMBOLIZE THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE?

Why...

Uh...

hmmm....

What is the word "english" derived from? England you say? What's England?

England is the largest country in the United Kingdom and the English people invented English...no, they didn't do it in a shop or a lab... it evolved THERE as a result of the normal way that languages twist and turn and become and change and become again. But we can still understand British English. And that's where the fucking language started!

 

[Shaun__]

Straw dog. No one is attempting to take our American culture away from us. Certainly, ALSO, the many dialects of English spoken in the US is part of that culture. But that's not what the OP is about, which is: WHICH NATIONAL FLAG IS MOST APPROPRIATE TO SYMBOLIZE THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE?

Why...

Uh...

hmmm....

What is the word "english" derived from? England you say? What's England?

England is the largest country in the United Kingdom and the English people invented English...no, they didn't do it in a shop or a lab... it evolved THERE as a result of the normal way that languages twist and turn and become and change and become again. But we can still understand British English. And that's where the fucking language started!

If you are in the UK designing a website that is going to use flags you would probably use you own flag, and there is not a single thing wrong with that, beside the fact it is still a bad way to show language. If you were in America designing a website that is going to use flags you would probably use you own flag, and there is not a single thing wrong with that, beside the fact it is still a bad way to show language.

Nothing anyone has said has changed that, and all you keep ignoring what the reality is. Language evolves and never stops until it dies and is forgotten. Ye old word smith did not wake up and forge the English language one day after a hearty breakfast of eggs, mushrooms, and sausages. It evolved from an older language from the mainland over many years into what it is today. Can anyone look me in the eyes and say that is untrue? No you can not, you are all trying to lay claim to something no one can ever own.

The only claim anyone in England has on the language is that their ancestors used the form closest to what it is today first, but so did my ancestors.

 

[LadyLuna]

So here's what we're saying:

1. it's stupid to use a flag to denote language, as language isn't bound by boarders.

2. a whole helluva lot of Americans have English in their ancestry

3. If a site wants to use flags to denote language, it makes sense to use the flag of their country to denote the language they speak, since languages aren't bound by boarders

If you want to get into ancestry, technically, language was invented in Africa. But if we use the African flag for all the languages, then we won't have anything to tell them all apart.

The closest thing to the English that is spoken today is the English that is spoken today. Shakespearean English does seem to be the common ancestor of all the versions of English that are spoken today, but... well... there are THOUSANDS of words used today that didn't even exist yet in Shakespeare's time.

 

[Nordling]

Yes, a lot of Americans have English ancestry. The largest ethnic group in the US, that is, the one with plurality, are Germans. But that doesn't have much to do with the price of sushi in Tokyo.

 

[Jupiter551]

Straw dog. No one is attempting to take our American culture away from us. Certainly, ALSO, the many dialects of English spoken in the US is part of that culture. But that's not what the OP is about, which is: WHICH NATIONAL FLAG IS MOST APPROPRIATE TO SYMBOLIZE THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE?

Why...

Uh...

hmmm....

What is the word "english" derived from? England you say? What's England?

England is the largest country in the United Kingdom and the English people invented English...no, they didn't do it in a shop or a lab... it evolved THERE as a result of the normal way that languages twist and turn and become and change and become again. But we can still understand British English. And that's where the fucking language started!

If you are in the UK designing a website that is going to use flags you would probably use you own flag, and there is not a single thing wrong with that, beside the fact it is still a bad way to show language. If you were in America designing a website that is going to use flags you would probably use you own flag, and there is not a single thing wrong with that, beside the fact it is still a bad way to show language.

Nothing anyone has said has changed that, and all you keep ignoring what the reality is. Language evolves and never stops until it dies and is forgotten. Ye old word smith did not wake up and forge the English language one day after a hearty breakfast of eggs, mushrooms, and sausages. It evolved from an older language from the mainland over many years into what it is today. Can anyone look me in the eyes and say that is untrue? No you can not, you are all trying to lay claim to something no one can ever own.

The only claim anyone in England has on the language is that their ancestors used the form closest to what it is today first, but so did my ancestors.

The first books written in English, the first rules laid down for grammar, spelling and punctuation, the first legal documents to carry weight in English, the first head of state to declare it the national tongue - all took place in England. Regardless of the origins of various people who migrated from mainland Europe thousands of years ago, and followed by Danish settlers, Saxons and finally Normans, the language wasn't English until those elements were brought together, decided between disparate and often distant dialects and formalised in print and law, that English as a language existed as an entity. You're simply splitting hairs. Any way you look at it, the English language along with the rich history of literature, law, arts and sciences that have been expressed in it for almost a thousand years - finds its actual and spiritual roots in (almost exclusively) south England.

Oh, and this is my response to us trying to "deny Americans their heritage" (and then, unbelievably, you had the gall to bring up slavery in comparison): :roll:

Regarding accents: most university degrees in English study written English - primarily literature - not the phonology of various groups of people. That would more likely be an area in linguistics.

That said, when I mentioned regional accents as remaining likely the most similar to English of 500 years ago - listen to someone from Northern England (some of the camgirls who post here are from the north), or Irish, or Scottish - they all pronounce their 'r's, and as stated I expect those along with lower class English accents that are still rhotic would be the closest I would think, to earlier English. What the hell any of that has to do with anything, beats me.

 

[Shaun__]

The first books written in English, the first rules laid down for grammar, spelling and punctuation, the first legal documents to carry weight in English, the first head of state to declare it the national tongue - all took place in England. Regardless of the origins of various people who migrated from mainland Europe thousands of years ago, and followed by Danish settlers, Saxons and finally Normans, the language wasn't English until those elements were brought together, decided between disparate and often distant dialects and formalised in print and law, that English as a language existed as an entity. You're simply splitting hairs. Any way you look at it, the English language along with the rich history of literature, law, arts and sciences that have been expressed in it for almost a thousand years - finds its actual and spiritual roots in (almost exclusively) south England.

Oh, and this is my response to us trying to "deny Americans their heritage" (and then, unbelievably, you had the gall to bring up slavery in comparison): :roll:

Regarding accents: most university degrees in English study written English - primarily literature - not the phonology of various groups of people. That would more likely be an area in linguistics.

That said, when I mentioned regional accents as remaining likely the most similar to English of 500 years ago - listen to someone from Northern England (some of the camgirls who post here are from the north), or Irish, or Scottish - they all pronounce their 'r's, and as stated I expect those along with lower class English accents that are still rhotic would be the closest I would think, to earlier English. What the hell any of that has to do with anything, beats me.

So you are saying my ancestors invented English?

 

[Nordling]

The first books written in English, the first rules laid down for grammar, spelling and punctuation, the first legal documents to carry weight in English, the first head of state to declare it the national tongue - all took place in England. Regardless of the origins of various people who migrated from mainland Europe thousands of years ago, and followed by Danish settlers, Saxons and finally Normans, the language wasn't English until those elements were brought together, decided between disparate and often distant dialects and formalised in print and law, that English as a language existed as an entity. You're simply splitting hairs. Any way you look at it, the English language along with the rich history of literature, law, arts and sciences that have been expressed in it for almost a thousand years - finds its actual and spiritual roots in (almost exclusively) south England.

Oh, and this is my response to us trying to "deny Americans their heritage" (and then, unbelievably, you had the gall to bring up slavery in comparison): :roll:

Regarding accents: most university degrees in English study written English - primarily literature - not the phonology of various groups of people. That would more likely be an area in linguistics.

That said, when I mentioned regional accents as remaining likely the most similar to English of 500 years ago - listen to someone from Northern England (some of the camgirls who post here are from the north), or Irish, or Scottish - they all pronounce their 'r's, and as stated I expect those along with lower class English accents that are still rhotic would be the closest I would think, to earlier English. What the hell any of that has to do with anything, beats me.

So you are saying my ancestors invented English?

Your ancestors likely played a role in the development of Modern English. So, you might want to get a copy of your family Coat of Arms and flash it whenever someone asks what language you speak.

 

[Shaun__]

Your ancestors likely played a role in the development of Modern English. So, you might want to get a copy of your family Coat of Arms and flash it whenever someone asks what language you speak.

I went to a store one day and this man was selling people a copy of their family Coat of Arms, and explaining where their family name came from originally. I thought it was neat, and bought mine. He never mailed it to me. :icon-cry:

 

[Jupiter551]

So you are saying my ancestors invented English?

This is your tactic now? 'Cultural legacy'? What happened to us all 'living in the past'?

Have your English ancestors somehow been retrospectively reinvented as American? So why would that let you put an American flag on the language created within the culture of the British Isles? No one said you don't have a right to use the English language, but how arrogant to put your own flag on it as if your country has the most right to it.

 

[Shaun__]

So you are saying my ancestors invented English?

This is your tactic now? 'Cultural legacy'? What happened to us all 'living in the past'?

Have your English ancestors somehow been retrospectively reinvented as American? So why would that let you put an American flag on the language created within the culture of the British Isles? No one said you don't have a right to use the English language, but how arrogant to put your own flag on it as if your country has the most right to it.

I do think you are living in the past, but I have no ethical concerns about using your reasoning for my arguments. I never even asked, but what kind of English did the person using the American flag use? British or American?

 

[Jupiter551]

Acknowledging the originators of something is hardly living in the past. Should we pretend Thomas Edison didn't invent the lightbulb, simply because others have added to it since and hell it was a long time ago? No. Any which way you cut it, the English language as we know it, and as it has been known since the first english word was scratched onto parchment, came from the peoples of Britain, in Britain.

I have no idea what nationality the model was, if I ever noticed I've forgotten by now.

 

[loveyougipsy]

If you are in the UK designing a website that is going to use flags you would probably use you own flag, and there is not a single thing wrong with that, beside the fact it is still a bad way to show language. If you were in America designing a website that is going to use flags you would probably use you own flag, and there is not a single thing wrong with that, beside the fact it is still a bad way to show language.

If you were designing a multi-lingual website you'd more likely use an internationalisation library where people have already argued about the language and flags to assign to them and provide more coverage than you ever could yourself.
If you were doing it well:
1) You would set the default site language for the language of your target users regardless of which country you are developing in.
2) The first time they visit you'd check the browsers preferred language and use that
3) Give the visitor the ability to over-ride the language choice and remember it for future visits.
:twocents-02cents:

I am so tired of ending up with sites in the wrong language because of the country I'm in, when my browser will tell them the language I'm using on my computer. Google is the worst for this, even when I log in they don't like showing me the site in the language I use on my computer or have set my Google preferences, they do it based on the country I'm in. :angry4:

 

[AmberCutie]

Since this board says it's only in "British English" I think we all should add extra u's to our words. :lol:




This sure has turned into the most odd shit-storm of arguing in here!

Is there anything wrong with using an American Flag to denote using American English and using a UK Flag to denote using British English? I know either version can basically be understood by anyone who speaks any sort of English, but clearly there are some differences. Does it really matter the waybackintheolddaysorigin of a language? I would think only really picky, snobby people who are uppidy about history should be riled up by this. Or, just people who love to argue for arguing's sake.

 

[LadyLuna]

Should we pretend Thomas Edison didn't invent the lightbulb, simply because others have added to it since and hell it was a long time ago? No.

Thomas Edison didn't invent the lightbulb. Nicola Tesla was working for Thomas Edison, and invented the lightbulb, and didn't care that Thomas Edison took credit for his invention.

 

[Nordling]

Since this board says it's only in "British English" I think we all should add extra u's to our words. :lol:




This sure has turned into the most odd shit-storm of arguing in here!

Is there anything wrong with using an American Flag to denote using American English and using a UK Flag to denote using British English? I know either version can basically be understood by anyone who speaks any sort of English, but clearly there are some differences. Does it really matter the waybackintheolddaysorigin of a language? I would think only really picky, snobby people who are uppidy about history should be riled up by this. Or, just people who love to argue for arguing's sake.

This I agree with, when such detailed designations are appropriate. But for "generic" English, I think the British flag is most appropriate--but yeah, it's not a huge deal. This thread was kind of created for arguing about something that isn't that big a deal.

 

[AmberCutie]

This thread was kind of created for arguing about something that isn't that big a deal.

Could'a fooled me with all the rageyness. (Not you, but a couple of others.)