Creepy and Annoying "Invisible" Users Camping in Rooms

[My_Opinion]

Creepy and Annoying "Invisible" Users Camping in Rooms

Please, make it possible to ban these people from the room, without knowing who they are is fine, some of these weirdos abuse it, hard, this is like 2020, again, when yall didn't let us ban people, lets us control our rooms

Also, just realized "Charlie" and "Chloe" , are gone, what gives?

@Stella_SC

 

[Brit]

Can models opt into this? If not, this feels so wrong to me. Like, the site is making money from selling the ultimate membership, which already allows people to incessantly PM models, and now they are also able to freely spy on privates without the model making any money. Models are already forced to do whatever it is they say they do on their profiles, and now they're also being forced to give away 15 seconds for free. This should be opt in only or SC should offset the cost. This does not sit right with me.

Sorry for thread drift.

 

[Ozzie_]

Can models opt into this? If not, this feels so wrong to me. Like, the site is making money from selling the ultimate membership, which already allows people to incessantly PM models, and now they are also able to freely spy on privates without the model making any money. Models are already forced to do whatever it is they say they do on their profiles, and now they're also being forced to give away 15 seconds for free. This should be opt in only or SC should offset the cost. This does not sit right with me.

Sorry for thread drift.

You do not have to enable spying. I do not know which is the default, but spying can be turned off by the models.

 

[Brit]

You do not have to enable spying. I do not know which is the default, but spying can be turned off by the models.

That's fine and good, but a model shouldn't be forced to choose between losing out on income from spies or giving ultimate members free content. If someone allows spying, they are getting additional income from people who are spying. An ultimate member bypasses that and is able to spy for free for 15 seconds. This just isn't right to me. Models should be able to opt in to the spying and opt in to the "ultimates get 15 seconds free" thing. SC is indirectly taking money out of a models pocket by allowing ultimates to receive free content from models.

 

[Natural9]

That's fine and good, but a model shouldn't be forced to choose between losing out on income from spies or giving ultimate members free content. If someone allows spying, they are getting additional income from people who are spying. An ultimate member bypasses that and is able to spy for free for 15 seconds. This just isn't right to me. Models should be able to opt in to the spying and opt in to the "ultimates get 15 seconds free" thing. SC is indirectly taking money out of a models pocket by allowing ultimates to receive free content from models.

not just "ultimate" but anyone with tokens can spy for 15 seconds free. If a user spies for 15 seconds and a model is not doing a show he wants to continue spying on and pay for he leaves in 15 seconds. I am guessing guys that decide to stay and pay happens as well because they like what they are seeing. Any "ultimate" membership on any site can send PM's to anyone so that is no different on sC than a "supporter" on CB etc.

 

[Brit]

I missed the part where it was for all users with tokens and not just ultimates. This is insane to me.

Having people send you unwanted PMs is annoying, but at least it doesn't take away one's earnings. Giving away free time does. A model should be able to choose, not be forced into it.

 

[Deleted member 87093]

Only once per show, if they have tokens, for only 15 seconds.

From the SC User FAQ:

" What is the Spy show?

9 months ago Updated

“Spy on Shows” is a section where you can find all the Privates that are taking place. Users with tokens can sneak a peek into them for free for the first 15 seconds (only once per show). If they like what they see, they can pay the spying rate to continue watching, which can range from 4 tokens/minute to 60 tokens/minute. It depends on the models' pricing preferences. If a user continues to spy after 15 free seconds ends, a model will see that this user is spying.


Note that if a spy decides to private message the model during a spying session, their identity will no longer be a secret to the model."

https://support.stripchat.com/hc/en-us/articles/4410740305809-What-is-the-Spy-show

This doesn't include the more expensive "exclusive shows, does it ?

 

[Wuggie]

This doesn't include the more expensive "exclusive shows, does it ?

No, no one can spy on exclusive shows..

 

[Deleted member 87093]

Agree with you 200 percent on all your points. That's why I won't work this site, well one of the main reasons. Members dont get it, so I wouldn't really take their feedback very seriously past Wuggie.

I think one must be careful because victims can become perpetrators for example I organized to buy a certain brand and model of alternator for my car, well a week later, the seller presented me with a different brand of the same amperage but I stated quite emphatically (clearly, without doubt) that I wanted brand A and model A.

I said "that's not what I ordered" and rejected the alternator. How did he respond ? With anger, bitterness and revengefulness.

Years later he ripped my off on A/C which had blown a fuse and his worker rang and said it was just a fuse but then later he must have discovered who I was and put two and two together and decided to rip me off to the tune of $99 dollars.

See this is the thing people don't see you as the victim they see you from their own perspective, which is often self-absorbed, ruthless, and self-righteous ! Do I think it was an injustice towards me ? Logically yeah I do. He thinks I'm the perpetrator. I've seen this so many times. Many other things have happend to me also. I used to work in IT starting out as I'T support. I did this job for a client and to cut a long story short another I'T support guy lost the job because I under quoted him and then he slandered me I lost the job and then her ripped them off and it all got very nasty and the client felt ripped off by this other I.T support guy.

I threatened to take him to court over defamation of character and clearly I would have won. I asked the client who the I'T guy actually was I guessed who it was but I wasn't sure actually who it was. Well they refused to tell me and thats how it ended.

This guys father saw me as the perpetrator, not the victim, and again decided to seek revenge.

Throughout my life these kinds of things happen all too often.

Because of these vicious acts of slander I've become a pariah in my town.

One of my ex girl friends was particularly vicious with her slander and I was thinking seriously of taken her to court over it but then thought that to some degree it was my fault or we were both at fault yet her attitude was that it was all my fault.

She refused to take some responsibility for her side of the relationship.

What could I do under the circumstances take her to caught and the truth comes out and her name is revealed to the public? Sometimes you just have to shut up and take it on the chin.

If I've learnt one thing in life its that you are going to get a lot of shit from people. You have to endure shit to become successful. Go i've put im with some shit that nobody should have to endure yet thats life.

Sylvester Stallone is absolutely right about life its a "mean and nasty place. Life will kick you and keep you down if you let it. Its not how many times you can hit, its how many times you can get hit and keep going !

 

[MarieElise]

I think one must be careful because victims can become perpetrators for example I organized to buy a certain brand and model of alternator for my car, well a week later, the seller presented me with a different brand of the same amperage but I stated quite emphatically (clearly, without doubt) that I wanted brand and model A.

I said that's not what I ordered and rejected the alternator. How did her respond ? with anger, bitterness and revengeful.

years later he ripped my off on A/C which had blown a fuse and his worker rang and said it was just a fuse but then later he must have discovered who I was and put two and two together and decided to rip me off to the tune of $99 dollars.

See this is the thing people don't see you as the victim they see you from their own perspective, which is often self-absorbed, ruthless, and self-righteous ! Do I think it was an injustice towards me ? Logically yeah I do. He thinks I'm the perpetrator. I've seen this so many times. Many other things have happend to me also. I used to work in IT starting out as I'T support. I did this job for a client and to cut a long story short another I'T support guy lost the job because I under quoted him and then he slandered me I lost the job and then her ripped them off and it all got very nasty and the client felt ripped off by this other I.T support guy.

I threatened to take him to court over defamation of character and clearly I would have won. I asked the client who the I'T guy actually was I guessed who it was but I wasn't sure actually who it was. Well they refused to tell me and thats how it ended.

This guys father saw me as the perpetrator, not the victim, and again decided to seek revenge.

Throughout my life these kinds of things happen all too often.

Because of these vicious acts of slander I've become a pariah in my town.

One of my ex girl friends was particularly vicious with her slander and I was thinking seriously of taken her to court over it but then thought that to some degree it was my fault or we were both at fault yet her attitude was that it was all my fault.

She refused to take some responsibility for her side of the relationship.

What could I do under the circumstances take her to caught and the truth comes out and her name is revealed to the public? Sometimes you just have to shut up and take it on the chin.

If I've learnt one thing in life its that you are going to get a lot of shit from people. You have to endure shit to become successful. Go i've put im with some shit that nobody should have to endure yet thats life.

Sylvester Stallone is absolutely right about life its a "mean and nasty place. Life will kick you and keep you down if you let it. Its not how many times you can hit, its how many times you can get hit and keep going !

Jesus Christ dude I have no idea who you are, and I'm not reading all this rambling shit.

Thank. Sorry it worked out that way. Sorry for your loss. Whatever. Rock on. It's 4:20 somewhere.

Seriously though thanks, but I don't care that much. I have a bad case of do not give a fuckiosis. It's my day off man.

 

[Deleted member 87093]

Jesus Christ dude I have no idea who you are, and I'm not reading all this rambling shit.

Thank. Sorry it worked out that way. Sorry for your loss. Whatever. Rock on. It's 4:20 somewhere.

Seriously though thanks, but I don't care that much. I have a bad case of do not give a fuckiosis. It's my day off man.

I know most people don't care but I do have a certain amount of empathy for people. that's the problem with the world now people just don't care anymore. Thats why oligarchs rule the world and that's why we are all paying the bulk of the tax that's why bad men behave badly, that's why women have grown to hate and despise men. I get it, they've been terribly traumatized. Who could really blame them for feeling that way ?

 

[MarieElise]

I know most people don't care but I do have a certain amount of empathy for people. that's the problem with the world now people just don't care anymore. Thats why oligarchs rule the world and that's why we are all paying the bulk of the tax that's why bad men behave badly, that's why women have grown to hate and despise men. I get it, they've been terribly traumatized. Who could really blame them for feeling that way ?

Oh man I do care . I really do. Fine. I'll go back and read it and respond. I did a quick scan and all I saw was a rocky reference, a car alternator reference, and something about you taking a chick to court. But I am sorry. Expect a full response forthcoming. I, as a strong Leo moon woman, shall never be accused of not caring! 2nd response imminent.

 

[KingMarti]

It's creepy as fuck and women have to deal with enough creepy AF shit in everyday life.

I find that people just sitting not talking in general is creepy as fuck, especially when we are talking multiple hours of just sitting and not saying anything.

 

[MarieElise]

I find that people just sitting not talking in general is creepy as fuck, especially when we are talking multiple hours of just sitting and not saying anything.

Okay so I'm going to respond to this first because it's easier reading. Would you show up at someone's house (because we are streaming from our houses), knock on their door, wait for them to open it, and just stand there staring at them. No you wouldn't, it would be bad manners and weird. This is how I see it.

When I'm online and you come to my room, you're at my party. Noone comes to my parties to just sit and veg. Thy must engageth, in some form or another. Or they will metaphorically, get my foot up their ass. Tough love. I'm doing them a favor.

I am welcoming people into my life, my sexual life, my personal life, my home, and they don't even have the respect or manners to say hello. No just no. I'm very passionate about this. I am on a one-woman mission to improve the manners on the internet, worldwide, and I don't care if nobody is on this mission with me. I shall proceed and die on this hill on my own.

 

[MarieElise]

I think one must be careful because victims can become perpetrators for example I organized to buy a certain brand and model of alternator for my car, well a week later, the seller presented me with a different brand of the same amperage but I stated quite emphatically (clearly, without doubt) that I wanted brand A and model A.

I said "that's not what I ordered" and rejected the alternator. How did he respond ? With anger, bitterness and revengefulness.

Years later he ripped my off on A/C which had blown a fuse and his worker rang and said it was just a fuse but then later he must have discovered who I was and put two and two together and decided to rip me off to the tune of $99 dollars.

See this is the thing people don't see you as the victim they see you from their own perspective, which is often self-absorbed, ruthless, and self-righteous ! Do I think it was an injustice towards me ? Logically yeah I do. He thinks I'm the perpetrator. I've seen this so many times. Many other things have happend to me also. I used to work in IT starting out as I'T support. I did this job for a client and to cut a long story short another I'T support guy lost the job because I under quoted him and then he slandered me I lost the job and then her ripped them off and it all got very nasty and the client felt ripped off by this other I.T support guy.

I threatened to take him to court over defamation of character and clearly I would have won. I asked the client who the I'T guy actually was I guessed who it was but I wasn't sure actually who it was. Well they refused to tell me and thats how it ended.

This guys father saw me as the perpetrator, not the victim, and again decided to seek revenge.

Throughout my life these kinds of things happen all too often.

Because of these vicious acts of slander I've become a pariah in my town.

One of my ex girl friends was particularly vicious with her slander and I was thinking seriously of taken her to court over it but then thought that to some degree it was my fault or we were both at fault yet her attitude was that it was all my fault.

She refused to take some responsibility for her side of the relationship.

What could I do under the circumstances take her to caught and the truth comes out and her name is revealed to the public? Sometimes you just have to shut up and take it on the chin.

My condolences on your AC, becoming a "pariah" in your town, IT drama, and your ex not openly accepting some responsibility. May I point out that just because she doesn't, openly, doesn't mean she doesn't though. Some people react in the moment, but then go away and process stuff, and will accept some responsibility or lots. Then they don't see the prudence in letting that be known, because what would the point be, if the relationship is over. Which clearly it is, if you'd even consider taking her to court. If there's one thing I've learned in life, it really pisses men off if you "bismerch their character", even if it's in a private conversation, that no one else but the two people involved will ever hear or read (???).

If I've learnt one thing in life its that you are going to get a lot of shit from people. You have to endure shit to become successful.

There is some truth to this. I do agree, somewhat, with this.

Go i've put im with some shit that nobody should have to endure yet thats life.

Sylvester Stallone is absolutely right about life its a "mean and nasty place. Life will kick you and keep you down if you let it. Its not how many times you can hit, its how many times you can get hit and keep going !

Yes, I agree with this, although that quote from Sylvester Stallone makes me think maybe he's depressed. That's how depressed people tend to see things. I used to approach life this way, but I became desperately unhappy. Now I hit back, because I'm not going to live in the shadows of emotional repression, and resentment. That shit festers in your body and makes you sick. But, yes, you can't hit back (metaphorically speaking) over every little thing, some things just need to be let go of. There is a lot of beauty in life too. But we can't have one side of the coin without the other, however I shall not digress into Neitzche right now.

Ok off to watch a movie now.

Also women don't desperately hate men. There are some men who are out of control, and they stir up a lot of shit, which tends to get a loud reaction. However, everything I own, every bite of food I put in my mouth was paid for, by a man somewhere. So I don't hate men, and I don't believe most women really do hate most men. Stay off of Twitter (or Space Karen's X or whatever it's called now) though, because it would have you think we do.

 

[Natural9]

I find that people just sitting not talking in general is creepy as fuck, especially when we are talking multiple hours of just sitting and not saying anything.

I know one user on SC .. He is a model. He has between 70 and 80 tabs open in his browsers, on 3 of 4 monitors he has, of female model rooms. Some are open with his model account and some are open with his regular member account. His regular member account is ultimate user so he is continuously parked in all of those rooms as an invisible 24/7 unless he restarts his computer for updates. There are gray names that have never ever bought tokens that have bought ultimate user monthly and just open a bunch of tabs with different rooms and wait to see who is getting tipped to do a show. This happens on EVERY cam site so why it is such a big deal makes no sense at all to me.

 

[KingMarti]

I know one user on SC .. He is a model. He has between 70 and 80 tabs open in his browsers, on 3 of 4 monitors he has, of female model rooms. Some are open with his model account and some are open with his regular member account. His regular member account is ultimate user so he is continuously parked in all of those rooms as an invisible 24/7 unless he restarts his computer for updates. There are gray names that have never ever bought tokens that have bought ultimate user monthly and just open a bunch of tabs with different rooms and wait to see who is getting tipped to do a show. This happens on EVERY cam site so why it is such a big deal makes no sense at all to me.

Just because it happens dosnt make it any less creepy.

 

[AudriTwo]

Jesus fucking Peter Andrew James James John Philip Bartholomew Thomas Matthew Thaddeus Simon and Judas Christ...

People are allowed to feel uncomfortable about creepy behavior and express it. Just because you may not feel the same doesn't mean they are wrong or invalid. I recommend you dudes be more empathetic and think about WHY a sex worker may have a problem with others habitually watching.

 

[Deleted member 87093]

My condolences on your AC, becoming a "pariah" in your town, IT drama, and your ex not openly accepting some responsibility. May I point out that just because she doesn't, openly, doesn't mean she doesn't though. Some people react in the moment, but then go away and process stuff, and will accept some responsibility or lots. Then they don't see the prudence in letting that be known, because what would the point be, if the relationship is over. Which clearly it is, if you'd even consider taking her to court. If there's one thing I've learned in life, it really pisses men off if you "bismerch their character", even if it's in a private conversation, that no one else but the two people involved will ever hear or read (???).

Thanks, Thanks, and thank you ! I still don't know to this day whether she ever accepted any responsibility for her part in taking responsibility for having an affair. Delulu or something. cognitive bias ?? Something like that who really knows how she thinks. prudence yeah, sometimes you just have walk away and lick your own wounds and deal with it as best as we can. Sometimes I wonder whether she felt anything for me at all. Thats the part that really hurts, deep in the darkest corners of my mind I wonder whether anybody gives a shit about anybody. Like you say its over we have to move out and move on. No point dwelling on water under the bridge. Another one bites the dust ! ha ha A chapter of you life ends and another opens. I like to think that I learnt a valuable lesson. No i wouldn't take her to court. It would open up a can of worms so to speak. That would just add salt to the wound. One bites the bullet and moves on. Besmirch their character - yeah that's the part that hurt the most. her vicious slanderous lies to hide her affair and to get out of the relationship. I guess what else could she do ? How was she going to suddenly exit out of the relationship? Telling a horrible lie to cover something. Imagine what the locals thought? Imagine the terrible things that have happend to people when some poor bastard went to jail for rape and then evidence came to light or the girl later said she had lied and the dude was innocent and spent 10 years in jail. I could not live with the guilt yet many I guess do. Besmirch is the price I paid in this relationship. "Hearsay" can be very cruel to ones reputation. Anyway best I just turn the page and forget it. The whole town was involved unfortunately. The vicious slanderous hearsay. Cognitive bias mean people are to lazy to find out the truth. Only time will set me free. Eventually the truth will come out.

 

[Marceline]

There are gray names that have never ever bought tokens that have bought ultimate user monthly and just open a bunch of tabs with different rooms and wait to see who is getting tipped to do a show. This happens on EVERY cam site so why it is such a big deal makes no sense at all to me.

You don't understand why models would have an issue with a member camping out in their room every time they go online, staying for hours or the entire duration of their stream time, never tipping, never contributing anything positive, just waiting for something spicy to happen so they can jerk it or possibly screencap it and post it elsewhere without consent?

Sure, it happens. But, models don't need to like it, and it would be nice to have a way to stop that from happening.

I know I make a lot of comparisons between bars and cam rooms on here, but just imagine someone buying a membership to a member's only type bar/club. Then they go in and sit in the corner every time a certain bartender has a shift, stays in the corner and watches them, but never buys a drink and never interacts with anyone. I get it's a bit different, considering one is in person and the other is online, but it's still odd and worrisome behavior.

Plus, most models don't want to be seen by people they may know irl. If someone is obsessively watching their show and not wanting their identity to be known, it's not uncommon to think it may be a person from irl being a creep.

 

[Deleted member 87093]

There is some truth to this. I do agree, somewhat, with this.

Thanks.

Yes, I agree with this, although that quote from Sylvester Stallone makes me think maybe he's depressed. That's how depressed people tend to see things. I used to approach life this way, but I became desperately unhappy. Now I hit back, because I'm not going to live in the shadows of emotional repression, and resentment. That shit festers in your body and makes you sick. But, yes, you can't hit back (metaphorically speaking) over every little thing, some things just need to be let go of. There is a lot of beauty in life too. But we can't have one side of the coin without the other, however I shall not digress into Neitzche right now.

I think he has incredible insight regarding life. No doubt he was going through tough times himself and yeah maybe he was depressed at that time. I think its the reality of life. Truth is we are all going through tough economic times now or at least I am. Still it depends on what we do about the situation that we are in. Learned helplessness is a thing. Understanding that there are options that we can take. Bezos said that about stress ! If you're stressed then what options do we have that could mitigate the stress ? How can we change ? What can we do to fix the stress ? Clearly there are things that we can do to alleviate those problems. or to solve the problem/s. If you don't have a lot of money and you smoke and drink then quite smoking and drinking. Sure alcohol does make one feel better temporarily but then it creates another issue. Some are strong enough to bring about change in their lives while some are just too weak or too broken inside to change or survive. I don't blame anyone for that. I see drugged out zombies and realize that they're going through some terrible shit in their life. I think people find that hard to deal with and just try to block it out which is understandable. I do it myself. thats what delusion is - its taking the blue pill instead of the red pill. We can't take on too much baggage lest we end up terribly depressed.

We must just ignore it get up go for a walk down the beach and enjoy that beautiful sunset. Life is what we make it in some degree. Sure we are all going through shit at the moment some of us are looking at the gutter others are looking at the stars in the Belt of Orion.

Make sure you always walk every day and eat right. Nutrition affects our mood. If your not getting enough magnesium or other important vitamins and minerals you can end up bed rotting and feeling very depressed. Again that's an option. Bad options have bad consequences! yes the world has some beauty like the beach or a forest or a huge lake in NZ.

I hike can lift your spirits.

Oh Friedrich Nietzsche! I tried to read his books they're interesting and somewhat truthful in a way that's positive but it also dark. I think he went insane didn't he or maybe we are lead to believe that.


Anyway ! Enjoy that movie hopefully its positive ! Repression and resentment. Yes we have to shrug it off and move onto another chapter in our life.

Yes its true. Shit can really drag you down. Still mood is fickle. If you feel like shit then go for a walk, or a swim, or take a nice hot sauna, or an ice bath ! LOL I think boredom is sameness ! Try some new hobby or another adventure. Life is what we make it in that way.

 

[yummybrownfox]

It’s funny to me how men can justify camping out for hours and not tipping cam models on a sex site (“But it’s called MyFREECams, bb!” )…yet months ago I got bullied online by men on Facebook over the fact that I ONLY get water at the karaoke bar and I tip $5 for it. The argument was that the tip only goes to the bartender, but it’s not giving money to the bar. And I SHOULD at least be buying a soda or something, so that the bar gets money too. While I had never even thought of it that way until that point of view was brought to my attention, it was absolutely insane and disgusting that grown men on Facebook were passionate enough about it to harass me about it. The one guy went as far as insulting my appearance (Bitch, I look good…you look like you touch children, and drive a white van that says “FREE CANDY”), and threatening to have his wife come fight me. Funny how he stfu when I told him to please have her FB audio call me.

Sooo much anger about that, but when it comes to entering a cam model’s chat room and enjoying her company, it’s “Hmmm. Let me just sit here for several minutes/hours, and stare at her and see if she’s worth 10 tokens.” Lol.

 

[MarieElise]

Thanks.



I think he has incredible insight regarding life. No doubt he was going through tough times himself and yeah maybe he was depressed at that time. I think its the reality of life. Truth is we are all going through tough economic times now or at least I am. Still it depends on what we do about the situation that we are in. Learned helplessness is a thing. Understanding that there are options that we can take. Bezos said that about stress ! If you're stressed then what options do we have that could mitigate the stress ? How can we change ? What can we do to fix the stress ? Clearly there are things that we can do to alleviate those problems. or to solve the problem/s. If you don't have a lot of money and you smoke and drink then quite smoking and drinking. Sure alcohol does make one feel better temporarily but then it creates another issue. Some are strong enough to bring about change in their lives while some are just too weak or too broken inside to change or survive. I don't blame anyone for that. I see drugged out zombies and realize that they're going through some terrible shit in their life. I think people find that hard to deal with and just try to block it out which is understandable. I do it myself. thats what delusion is - its taking the blue pill instead of the red pill. We can't take on too much baggage lest we end up terribly depressed.

We must just ignore it get up go for a walk down the beach and enjoy that beautiful sunset. Life is what we make it in some degree. Sure we are all going through shit at the moment some of us are looking at the gutter others are looking at the stars in the Belt of Orion.

Make sure you always walk every day and eat right. Nutrition affects our mood. If your not getting enough magnesium or other important vitamins and minerals you can end up bed rotting and feeling very depressed. Again that's an option. Bad options have bad consequences! yes the world has some beauty like the beach or a forest or a huge lake in NZ.

I hike can lift your spirits.

Oh Friedrich Nietzsche! I tried to read his books they're interesting and somewhat truthful in a way that's positive but it also dark. I think he went insane didn't he or maybe we are lead to believe that.


Anyway ! Enjoy that movie hopefully its positive ! Repression and resentment. Yes we have to shrug it off and move onto another chapter in our life.

Yes its true. Shit can really drag you down. Still mood is fickle. If you feel like shit then go for a walk, or a swim, or take a nice hot sauna, or an ice bath ! LOL I think boredom is sameness ! Try some new hobby or another adventure. Life is what we make it in that way.

I don't know if Neitzche eventually went insane. But if he did... I wouldn't blame the poor guy.

Ice baths are for fucking maniacs.
Lol, that sounds almost as bad to me as; "oh you're bored, cut your head off, and glue it back on again"

@yummybrownfox I bet the owner of the bar wouldn't give two shits you go in and get a water, because everyone knows women attract men to bars, to spend their money. I worked at bars, and there's a reason all the waitresses are usually chicks. The owners want chicks in there to lure in dudes more. I highly doubt they'd give a fuck you went in there and got water, they'd probably offer you more water and free soda tbh, to get you to hang out longer. What a bunch of facebook tools

 

[yummybrownfox]

I don't know if Neitzche eventually went insane. But if he did... I wouldn't blame the poor guy.

Ice baths are for fucking maniacs.
Lol, that sounds almost as bad to me as; "oh you're bored, cut your head off, and glue it back on again"

@yummybrownfox I bet the owner of the bar wouldn't give two shits you go in and get a water, because everyone knows women attract men to bars, to spend their money. I worked at bars, and there's a reason all the waitresses are usually chicks. The owners want chicks in there to lure in dudes more. I highly doubt they'd give a fuck you went in there and got water, they'd probably offer you more tbh to get you to hang out longer. What a bunch of facebook tools

If they could make their overpriced bar food without burning the shit, it may convince me to start buying food again. Lol. Otherwise I’ll stick to my water (and tip them $5 for the water)…or occasionally get a Malibu with lime + tip…or just get a Sprite + tip.

When I went to Boogie Nights in Atlantic City on Thursday for my birthday, that bartender was sooo cool. He was doing this ‘flipping the bottle before he pours’ trick, and he said he’s gonna make my drink very pretty. It was a Malibu with cherries in it and an orange. I’ve never had it prepared that way before, but I liked it and drink every drop. The rare times I even get alcohol, I don’t always finish the whole glass.

 

[Vixxen81]

I guess I'm the odd woman out in this discussion. I couldn't care less about it. I can't stop people from watching me walk down the street or through the grocery store any more than they can stop me from watching them and maybe that's where the hang up is on the model's side because she can't see them? IDK. It's never bothered me. But I also rarely watch a dude's cam and couldn't care less about the income I might be missing out on watching his cam -- not enough eye bleach in the world bb. You came to me because I was what you wanted in the moment. I don't open your cam because you might be my uncle.

 

[lolabunny9]

i cant stand when people camp in rooms and never say anything i ban them i call them out all the time send them a pm and after a bit of no talk they are banned... i hate how we cant ban the invisible users to.

 

[Stella_SC]

Thank you @Brit and everyone else who provided feedback on our features. Your feedback and suggestions has been passed on to the relevant teams.

 

[Hiunds]

I missed the part where it was for all users with tokens and not just ultimates. This is insane to me.

Having people send you unwanted PMs is annoying, but at least it doesn't take away one's earnings. Giving away free time does. A model should be able to choose, not be forced into it.

I totally get your point, and it looks like some people really abuse the “free window” for spying (opening multiple accounts to view longer? Good god).

That said, there are some times when that free window actually opens up revenue opportunities for the model. First is of course when a user likes what they see, stays and pays per minute to spy longer. I’ve done this many times when I am not sure if I would have spied without the free window. I’ve had lots of cases where I went to spy and the room was empty, the model was using spy mode to take a break. I was pretty glad I didn’t get charged for it as a user

I can also think of a couple cases where I did the spy thing (starting with the free period) and liked it so much I made a point of going back to the model’s room later and ultimately became a regular and the model made thousands of tokens from the arrangement over months.

I have no idea what the “break even” is with the free window for spying, but I think it does encourage more legit tippers to try it out (“what have I got to lose?”) and see what a great show the model puts on

 

[Brit]

My guy, my entire point is that a model should be able to choose to offer it or not. No model should be forced to give away free time just because they allow spying. Whether a model thinks free spying is good or bad for their business is up to them, but they should have that choice. Discussing the pros and cons of offering free shit is an entirely different conversation and should be irrelevant to the conversation of a site forcing models to give away said free shit.

Thank you @Stella_SC for understanding the issue and passing it along.

 

[NotYou]

Yes ... ultimate users can spy for free for 15 seconds

Ultimate users can't spy for free for those 15 seconds.
You need the minimum token amount on your account to spy those 15 seconds (a preview). And can only do it once per private show.

So, if the model charges 16 tokens per minute to spy, you need 16 tokens minimum on your account to have that preview 15 seconds

Personally I think this is a good way, it has even made me spy properly on a show because of it. Without it, I would never even try to spy because I have that "knowing my luck it'll be the camera staring at a wall", but at least this way you get a quick taster and continue.

Edit:
I just saw all the replies on page 2, not sure if any said the same as me, but I can't read all of them right now.

 

[KingMarti]

Ultimate users can't spy for free for those 15 seconds.
You need the minimum token amount on your account to spy those 15 seconds (a preview). And can only do it once per private show.

So, if the model charges 16 tokens per minute to spy, you need 16 tokens minimum on your account to have that preview 15 seconds

Personally I think this is a good way, it has even made me spy properly on a show because of it. Without it, I would never even try to spy because I have that "knowing my luck it'll be the camera staring at a wall", but at least this way you get a quick taster and continue.

Edit:
I just saw all the replies on page 2, not sure if any said the same as me, but I can't read all of them right now.

The issue still remains though that the model is not being compensated for those 15 seconds. If you look at your token history after a pvt you will see that you are billed by the second, which means the model is shorted 15 billing cycles. It might not be much, it might be a lot depending on the spy price but it's the same either way, the site is giving access to content that should be income generating for the model.

by only needing 1 minutes worth of tokens on the account to get the 15 second spy that means if someone had tokens for 1 minute the site is giving an additional 25% for free.