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trishhh

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My sweet loyal member is going to help me with CS by tipping me some big tips offline.
But we'd like to know...what is better? To tip 15,000 tokens one day (without going online ofcourse) or for example 2,000 tokens everyday from monday to sunday ???
I know it's also based on other's earnings so I'm a bit confused..

Help?


Thank You :)
 
I'd say tipping offline 2000 tokens would bring it up for a longer period of time. It's done over a 60 day period. So say if you've have a terrible 60 days your camscore will have gone down, then even if you start making loads an hour, it'll take a while for those bad days to fall off the 60 days.

For example during october I've been making almost 2000 tokens per hour online, yet my camscore has only gone up a bit, because I did so badly in august, my earnings in the last 60 days work out to about 1000 tokens per hour. Once it goes to september as long as october doesn't have massive fails towards the end, my earnings over the 60 days will be more like 1400 tokens per hour, meaning my camscore should go up to over 3000. If november continues like october then I could be talking more like a 4000+ camscore, but if november becomes a slow/normal month then it'll even out again or even go back down.

If you haven't been online in 60 days or have been online barely at all, say only for a couple of hours, then yeah, get him to drop 15k offline or online and your camscore should rise accordingly (if you've only spent 3 hours online in 60 days that's 5000 tokens per hour), your camscore boosting should hopefully mean you'll get more publicity, but to keep that high camscore up you need to work/bring in the tips, if you don't have other regulars or they're not on board then your camscore could drop again.

In a normal situation then really I'd say depending on how much you usually earn online, there's no point sitting online for 5 hours a day earning 1000 tokens and then having someone offline tip you 2000 tokens. If they tip that in the room then it should not only encourage more tippers, and it makes the room more fun and active. If in the room you're having no problem making your daily aims then if he holds off and lets the others tip and then drops 2000 tokens after they show or offline then yes that would/should help.
Another thing is not hanging around and chilling too much when no tips are coming in. I love doing that and can get involved in a conversation for ages, especially after a show. But unless people are still tipping you should get offline (not too soon obviously, but often with me tippers bugger off after shows and go to bed and it's only freeloaders who stay) otherwise your camscore will suffer.

I came on with a few friends over summer when I was struggling and made 10k tokens in about an hour. My camscore didn't rise at all, in fact it started falling because the other days had been so awful, but maybe without that day it might have fallen more.
Another example. I was tipped 5k tokens offline, my camscore didn't budge, but it has now gone up 400 points, probably because a bad day fell off and the good month so far is bringing the average up. Unless you're a new model/haven't been on for 60 days it will take time and patience to bring your score up.
 
Got it. Got it. Thank You so much :)
But with one exeption :p
You said, If I was online shortly in let's say august and september (those 3 hrs only) then tipping 2k tokens every day offline NOW would help...
but at the end of post You wrote ''Unless you're a new model/haven't been on for 60 days it will take time and patience to bring your score up.'' ...In my opinion it would be very good if I started with fresh account and get those tips before going online at all.

Hmmm :?
 
trishhh said:
Miss_Lollipop said:
YOu can't start a fresh account. Sorry! Unless you are a studio model, quitting the studio.

nothing is impossible. lol

Girl, you are getting advice from experienced mfc models. If youre going to contradict the advice why ask?
 
AnaVictoriaXO said:
trishhh said:
Miss_Lollipop said:
YOu can't start a fresh account. Sorry! Unless you are a studio model, quitting the studio.

nothing is impossible. lol

Girl, you are getting advice from experienced mfc models. If youre going to contradict the advice why ask?

Yup agree with this, you can't start a new account, if you could it would completely fuck up the system, and do you not think all these other girls would do that same/haven't tried?

What I meant by that is that camscore is about the amount of time online compared to tokens. So either if you've not been online in 60 days or you're only been online a couple of times and then you get tipped a large sum your average earnings per hour is going to go way up. If you have been camming regularly and just haven't been making any money, then my advice would be for him to tip you in the room when you come online, you may not see results for a while, or I guess if your earnings were that bad and your score is that low then it might go up quicker.
 
Strange, I know one model who's been through at least 3 independent accounts...

I would say what you should do is instead of the offline tip - go for a true private to the tune of 2000 tokens each of those days and then log off after it.

MFC had an issue with a model having a 100k+ camscore from large offline tips and only logging in once a week or something for a minute and logging out. If they've changed anything, then this may cause issues with your attempts to raise your camscore. via large offline tips.

I'd certainly think a sustained several sessions of high tokens:time ratio would be better than a one off huge dollop. Heard plenty of "they got tipped xxx and their camscore barely moved!" as well as "to get that big a raise they must have been tipped 1,000,000,000,000 tokens because xxx got tipped yyyyy and it only went up by 1000!". So it may be worth thinking about spreading it out over several sessions over several days instead. Perhaps true private every other day for 2000 and log off - or a private and some large tips during it - once every 2 days for a week? You get the idea :D

The last question is - is it worth it? Members will pay what they think you are worth. You may get more exposure with a higher camscore, but that won't necessarily translate into more tips unless you've somehow been overlooked by members up until now. In other words (sounding horrible), your camscore may sink back to what it currently is unless you've either been overlooked, or you change something in how you work? I sound like a bastard don't I :D What I mean is, ensure you make the most of it by adapting rather than just hoping it turns things around for you :)

Hope it goes well :)
 
True private? I though it's all about tokens... but I'll think about it thanks ;)
Don't worry about me, I usually have over 70-80 ppl with lot of premiums in my room and my cs is about 1500 right now so.. ;) I'm not as bad :p
so You're saying to make it during longer period of time?
I'm glad You sound like bastard :D I love ppl who can say the truth out loud :D:D
 
LOL.

Some of members used to say to me...when it's slow...''try some games or something!'' Lol great idea, really, but how the fuck to play any games when a room is almost empty???? lol..
Im a kind of model..who prefer to be seductive and sexy than behave like GinnyPotter who run all over the room, screaming, jumping etc lol


EDIT.
I think it's a big chance for me and I'd like to use these 15k tokens properly...
 
trishhh said:
LOL.

Some of members used to say to me...when it's slow...''try some games or something!'' Lol great idea, really, but how the fuck to play any games when a room is almost empty???? lol..
Im a kind of model..who prefer to be seductive and sexy than behave like GinnyPotter who run all over the room, screaming, jumping etc lol


EDIT.
I think it's a big chance for me and I'd like to use these 15k tokens properly...

I think you're a jerk, going around insulting models for how they run their rooms. If you spent less time criticizing other models for how they look or act and more time working your room, you might actually get somewhere.
 
AllisonWilder said:
trishhh said:
LOL.

Some of members used to say to me...when it's slow...''try some games or something!'' Lol great idea, really, but how the fuck to play any games when a room is almost empty???? lol..
Im a kind of model..who prefer to be seductive and sexy than behave like GinnyPotter who run all over the room, screaming, jumping etc lol


EDIT.
I think it's a big chance for me and I'd like to use these 15k tokens properly...

I think you're a jerk, going around insulting models for how they run their rooms. If you spent less time criticizing other models for how they look or act and more time working your room, you might actually get somewhere.

Allison, I know I've said this so many times, but I love you.
 
trishhh said:
LOL.

Some of members used to say to me...when it's slow...''try some games or something!'' Lol great idea, really, but how the fuck to play any games when a room is almost empty???? lol..
Im a kind of model..who prefer to be seductive and sexy than behave like GinnyPotter who run all over the room, screaming, jumping etc lol


EDIT.
I think it's a big chance for me and I'd like to use these 15k tokens properly...

A big tip might raise your camscore for a moment. But if you dont learn how to actually keep people in your room, then as soon as those tokens fall off of your camscore you will be back right where you started. One big tip wont magically bring more tipping members in.....

A 1500 camscore isnt even that bad, youre still on page one.

And as for ginny potter, she is quite obviously doing something right....
 
Oh hypocrisy for being rude and aggressive whilst accusing someone else of that when they gave an indicator that they have a different style of working to others...

:roll:

(was at Alison - just trying to point out that again I think people are jumping to extremes in their posting).
 
My camscore was around 1800 when I first even realised camscore was a thing, I decided I wanted to get it up, I told my regulars, at the time I didn't spend that much time on cam, if it was slow I'd go offline, and I'd get offline tips. The biggest difference though was someone had bought a new cam off my wishlist and I had better lighting, for a bit it didn't actually change earning amounts but suddenly my room went from having 70-80 people tops to having up to 1000 people tops, usually settling between 100 and 200, my room numbers go up and down, for the last week it's been inbetween 100-200, but in show I'm only getting up to 350 people. My score rose to about 3000/just under 3000. You can see at the end of march it was 1892 and then at the beginning of may it's 2973, the line pretty much goes straight up with a few small falls.
Then in July/August I had a terrible month, I worked very hard though so actually made more than I have before, but I had much less tokens per hour, so beginning of July I was 3041, beginning of september I was 2075, My camscore has risen now, but I'll have to wait until all those slow hours in august leave my 60 days.

I don't really see the benefit of doing a true private over tokens, besides the member would get more from it, I also don't see why mfc would care that a model is barely even using their services yet is being paid a load (then again I guess it could fuck up camscore for other girls? Still, don't see why mfc would care). If you're wanting to keep people coming to the room I'd have it happen with in room tips, so play games and let the tipper tip for the games, so you're always doing something fun/sexy and interesting.

Ginny Potter is great and was in the top 20 within like a month of being on mfc, so I really wouldn't bash her (in fact I'd watch out bashing any girls on here, it won't make you popular with members or models), fair enough you want to run your room differently/be sexier, you don't have to be like Ginny, but when it comes to cam girls there is a big element that men like things being real. There are lots of girls who are very sexy/seductive yet also do the fun side of things, if you're not fun, click off and watch some porn.

For example I look a hell of a lot better in make up and lingerie, I'd have thought it would bring the tips in, yet when I were make-up/lingerie although people say I look good, much fewer people tip, most just zone out and perve/wank, even my regulars, so they get no make up, bad hair and t-shirts, because apparently that brings in tips? A regular said ages ago it's because otherwise I don't look like a real girl, it's more like porn. You want to be sexy, because that's what being a cam girl is about, but getting regular tippers/people to want to come back and be around you, you need to do more than give them all a good wank.
This is entertainment not porn, it's a massage with a happy ending, you see what I mean? They're there for the massage and the happy ending is the bonus, or the other way around, but they want both.

You do seem to be pinning a lot of hopes on this one tipper, if he does stay good for it then I'd plan some fun/interesting sexy stuff in your room and have him tip for it/tip for your countdowns, tips do tend to lead to more tips, just get him to ninja some of the tips so people can't see it's all the same person. If you're getting the tips anyway use it as a way to lure more tippers/viewers in rather than just trying to get your camscore up. Yes camscore does help, but like the others said, if people aren't ever sticking around your room then chances are you probably are doing something wrong, you may have just been overlooked, but not everyone can have a high camscore and be a top model. Camscore does help, but if you haven't got your game on then it'll just go straight back down again, if you look at the top of the front page, most of the models will have 200/300+ people in their rooms, but then there are also quite a few with bugger all people in there, one right now has a 4k camscore but only 17 people in there, and next to her a girl with an almost 4k score in a hoody who has over 100 in there. It's a tricky business, some get lucky and get the right regulars, but mostly you have to aim for sheer volumes and hope you'll find tippers in there!
 
Zoomer said:
Oh hypocrisy for being rude and aggressive whilst accusing someone else of that when they gave an indicator that they have a different style of working to others...

:roll:

(was at Alison - just trying to point out that again I think people are jumping to extremes in their posting).

I just don't think it's okay to imply that there's something wrong with the way GinnyPotter runs her room just because it's different than the way that trishhh runs her room.
 
trishhh said:
Im a kind of model..who prefer to be seductive and sexy than behave like GinnyPotter who run all over the room, screaming, jumping etc lol



OMG, this is the SECOND post from you I've read today where you've made negative comments about top MFC models. And both models you dissed happen to be friendly, pleasant, and energetic...something that's not easy to do during slow days/nights on cam. I sure as hell won't be visiting and tipping you from my member's account...that's for damn sure...

Good luck on MFC. I don't know why you bother posting 10,000 new threads on here asking for advice, when you shoot down everyone who tries to help you out. And I sure hope you don't speak negatively about fellow models in your public chat.
 
Zoomer said:
Oh hypocrisy for being rude and aggressive whilst accusing someone else of that when they gave an indicator that they have a different style of working to others...

:roll:

(was at Alison - just trying to point out that again I think people are jumping to extremes in their posting).


Trishhh keeps badmouthing top MFC models because she expects tokens to come falling out of the sky, and you're picking on Allison? *scratches head*

@trishhh: Jealousy doesn't look good on you, my dear. :twocents-02cents:
 
I know multiple models who have created a new account (both independent and online at the same time on MFC). I also know of one model who was online on her horrible camscore account, who explicitly advertised her new account and demanded people tip that account instead of the one she was online on, to boast her camscore through the roof without ever having logged on. By the time she started on the high score account, her camscore was around 15,000... Now it is around 5,000. Still much higher than her first account was.
 
Weirdtimmy said:
I know multiple models who have created a new account (both independent and online at the same time on MFC). I also know of one model who was online on her horrible camscore account, who explicitly advertised her new account and demanded people tip that account instead of the one she was online on, to boast her camscore through the roof without ever having logged on. By the time she started on the high score account, her camscore was around 15,000... Now it is around 5,000. Still much higher than her first account was.
It's true that it's possible and some models do slip through the cracks but in general, it's not allowed and MFC will decline it if they catch it.
 
A 15k tip for a new cam model on her first day isn't going to do much. I made just under that my first day camming in about 3-4 hours, and I remember it only raised my camscore from about 1000 to about 1300. So I really wouldn't go through the trouble of starting a new account.

Besides starting a new account would make you lose all those people as friends who have your avatar to be in the first row because they added you as friend. Try to focus on what you can do with the account you have instead of "working the system". Models get treated really badly if the members suspect they have a fake camscore.
 
Why saying ''run all over the room'' sounds bad for You? :banghead: hmmm I don't understand but nvm. I just described her way to earn.

Well the truth is...that if a girl looks like Niki, Sysy, idk...MiuMiu...Latina...then doesn't have to do those lottery stuff to have a traffic. What's wrong with that?? It's normal, natural, like in real life... Life is easier for beautiful people. Well, for Sysy it was a lot easier cuz I heard She was starting when the site had only 100 models online, even one of members said to me ''She's older than internet'' lol. Have You noticed that all girls without model-face usually play games? They couldn't exist as top models if not their crazy ideas: OliviaNaked, Jalyn, Ginny... But I am not saying there is anything wrong with that. Anyway to show You that I am right I'll give You simple example. Kattie_ vs Sysy. Both are top. But Katties_ traffic looks like a traffic of a room with 2000-3000 camscore, lol. Why? Because she's just a girl (kind sweet girl) who doesn't do anything special on cam and have some regulars, while Sysy do the same - nothing - but looks like million dollars :)

I didn't want to be rude. In fact, I just described what we all see.

All I can say..thank God I don't have to play games! :icon-lol:

Don't be mad at me...I am concrete person, thats all. :binky:
I appreciate and thank You for all advices!
 
trishhh said:
All I can say..thank God I don't have to play games! :icon-lol:
Considering your posts... maybe you should think about it. ;)
 
I can see where this thread is going and its all going to end badly so i'll just echo what others have said

It would be much more productive to actually work on raising your camscore by innovating in your room, have you thought you might be doing something in your room that is causing the low numbers? There is a wealth of fantastic information (I am lead to believe :thumbleft: ) in the models only section that can help you get your room going,

You don't have to be "crazy" to get traffic, Just be yourself or people will see right through you

To rely on one guy to give you some massive offline tips is, In my opinion counter-productive,He might one day disappear off the face of the earth, hit by a bus, whatever, then you are back to next to nothing and your camscore will correct to its ACTUAL level over time, not this inflated

Whatever the rights and wrongs of the camscore system it is a system that works for MFC (The business) and I have never seen any attempt to curcumvent it working over an extended period
 
sweetiebatman said:
There is a wealth of fantastic information (I am lead to believe :thumbleft: ) in the models only section that can help you get your room going,



Amber said in another post that she's not allowing trishhh access to that area (and for good reason!). :thumbleft:
 
Ermahgerd.... the irony of you using a "banging your head against the wall" smiley... it's potent... stings the nostrils, ya know?

Here's a list of things you've said/implied/done that might "sound bad to us"

Models who play games only do so because they're not attractive enough to make tokens without them.

Attractive models who do make a lot of money without playing games have it "easy".

Sysy is "older than the internet".

Having asked for advice, you then refuted the advice you were given.

(in another thread)

Jalyn is not attractive enough to warrant videos of her shows being shared on the internet.

And that was just today... :?
 
lol, good point Jolene, that was funny.. But I see many fine girls down the site and my heart is bleeding...

When I came here I though if I'll work really hard I'll get (maybe not on top) but much higher very fast.
Now after half year, I feel a bit dissapointed and I think it's not fair to be dependent on other's earnings. Tokens per minute thing is very okay...but when I have a great day and the next one my camscore don't move only because some of other models had it better...naaaah...I don't like it.
This way You can stuck in the same place forever. Btw on other forum I read that becoming a top model is based 50% on luck. I agree with that.

Felicity.... Since when raising camscore by tipping a lot from regular is FAKE???? :shock:
 
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