Cam Girls for middle east!

[JickyJuly]

Can't form sentences correctly.
Can't convey clear business plan.
Doesn't seem to understand laws.
Doesn't seem to care that the stigma will affect these women more than others.
Doesn't understand he can't use Paypal.
Rude when confronted with reality.
Yes. The hero the Middle Eastern girls have been waiting for!

 

[DJ_Pioneer]

Can't form sentences correctly.
Can't convey clear business plan.
Doesn't seem to understand laws.
Doesn't seem to care that the stigma will affect these women more than others.
Doesn't understand he can't use Paypal.
Rude when confronted with reality.
Yes. The hero the Middle Eastern girls have been waiting for!

It is only Monday and it feels like we have someone who can win the "most entitled scumbag of the week award".

 

[james5137]

People doesn't like to change, they all follow each others, They are always scared from new things, It's clear I will not find what I want here,
Just a small note for some people here, no one knows anything about the black market, all of you are talking about the normal ways to make money, That's old and soon all of you will find them-self out of this industry,
I like when some of you call themselves self workers, no you are not! try to work without these platforms if you can, go find customers! go make marketing plan! go find your own way to receive money!

"you put girls life in danger" How in the hell I do that! they are working INSIDE their home INSIDE their country!!

I got bored talk to closed mined people, and explain how it's work! and what is the market, and receive all these insult from each of you,
And no chaturbate not pay the same for people who live in Asia, and yes chaturbate eat the whole tips and gives you just a little to keep you working, be happy for the 5c that you take from each token,

bye "self workers"

 

[AmberCutie]

People doesn't like to change, they all follow each others, They are always scared from new things, It's clear I will not find what I want here,
Just a small note for some people here, no one knows anything about the black market, all of you are talking about the normal ways to make money, That's old and soon all of you will find them-self out of this industry,
I like when some of you call themselves self workers, no you are not! try to work without these platforms if you can, go find customers! go make marketing plan! go find your own way to receive money!

"you put girls life in danger" How in the hell I do that! they are working INSIDE their home INSIDE their country!!

I got bored talk to closed mined people, and explain how it's work! and what is the market, and receive all these insult from each of you,
And no chaturbate not pay the same for people who live in Asia, and yes chaturbate eat the whole tips and gives you just a little to keep you working, be happy for the 5c that you take from each token,

I was in cam industry before all of you even born if anyone of you even know anything about TV sex shows, And I know how much they tip before and now.
bye "self workers"

You can just go fuck right off now. We don't like you. We don't want to work with anyone in the black market. Go away.

 

[DJ_Pioneer]

People doesn't like to change, they all follow each others, They are always scared from new things, It's clear I will not find what I want here,
Just a small note for some people here, no one knows anything about the black market, all of you are talking about the normal ways to make money, That's old and soon all of you will find them-self out of this industry,
I like when some of you call themselves self workers, no you are not! try to work without these platforms if you can, go find customers! go make marketing plan! go find your own way to receive money!

"you put girls life in danger" How in the hell I do that! they are working INSIDE their home INSIDE their country!!

I got bored talk to closed mined people, and explain how it's work! and what is the market, and receive all these insult from each of you,
And no chaturbate not pay the same for people who live in Asia, and yes chaturbate eat the whole tips and gives you just a little to keep you working, be happy for the 5c that you take from each token,

I was in cam industry before all of you even born if anyone of you even know anything about TV sex shows, And I know how much they tip before and now.
bye "self workers"

Could you leave an email address so I can send the award to you on later this week? I have hard to imagine some one will mess up as badly as you this week.

 

[Guy]

You can just go fuck right off now. We don't like you. We don't want to work with anyone in the black market. Go away.

Why is it that its still showing him as being online here?

 

[CoffeeKnight]

People doesn't like to change, they all follow each others, They are always scared from new things, It's clear I will not find what I want here,
Just a small note for some people here, no one knows anything about the black market, all of you are talking about the normal ways to make money, That's old and soon all of you will find them-self out of this industry,
I like when some of you call themselves self workers, no you are not! try to work without these platforms if you can, go find customers! go make marketing plan! go find your own way to receive money!

"you put girls life in danger" How in the hell I do that! they are working INSIDE their home INSIDE their country!!

I got bored talk to closed mined people, and explain how it's work! and what is the market, and receive all these insult from each of you,
And no chaturbate not pay the same for people who live in Asia, and yes chaturbate eat the whole tips and gives you just a little to keep you working, be happy for the 5c that you take from each token,

bye "self workers"

-10 hp faith in humanity. Jesus.

 

[AudriTwo]

Aren't ME girls' homes inside ME countries? Im confused. The only way a ME chick can work cam sites is if she doesn't live in a country that bans pornography or the creation of pornography. So basically not in the ME.

What are we not getting? Also lol wut a pimp. No respect and needs to check that ego. Holy moly.

Also ignoring the fact that just because it's behind closed doors doesn't mean they won't get caught. Don't some of those countries have literal purity police?

 

[gddp]

@AudriTwo I think the idea was that OP would find clients willing to pay a premium in ME countries that ban camsites, and link them to cam models who could be located anywhere (in countries that allow camming, for instance). So, clients in the ME, not cam models in the ME. (Edit: not defending the idea or OP of course, as the intended arrangement still has its own set of big problems)

 

[Dan Epstein]

Was that a success short lived or what?

 

[JickyJuly]

I don't think it makes it much better if he was looking for women of Middle Eastern roots living in other places. A Middle Eastern woman living in America still has a family with values that come from that country. So, maybe she's not living in a country where they want to death penalty those who produce porn. She'll still lose more than the average American chick. Fuck that guy. He can't be that stupid. He knows what he's asking of these women. He might not know much else.... lol.

 

[AudriTwo]

@AudriTwo I think the idea was that OP would find clients willing to pay a premium in ME countries that ban camsites, and link them to cam models who could be located anywhere (in countries that allow camming, for instance). So, clients in the ME, not cam models in the ME. (Edit: not defending the idea or OP of course, as the intended arrangement still has its own set of big problems)

But we already have some ME clients tho. They use a VPN... If he wants to target that market create a white label and do affliate marketing. Why isn't this an option. You'd have to rely on word of mouth, and cleaver marketing.

 

[Dan Epstein]

Some of the best party animals I know are from the Middle East, and their Muslim, or Catholic parents were not raising anyone in a vacuum. As for ex pats, no one rocks harder than the Iranians in Berlin In conclusion, not everyone are caged in a Burkha, and I live right next to a musk in Jaffa.

 

[TemporarilyWhining]

Black market pimp scumbag.

Many cam girls are 100% law-abiding professionals in their industry. This is not rent-a-pussy for the Saudi elite, who are huge into human trafficking BTW.

Also, it is hilarious that OP plans to use US-based tech companies (most of which are not porn-friendly), to break laws that are in place both in the US (FOSTA, Skype) and in the Middle East (VPN etc and all porn, drinking, etc. blocked). A woman who is "not cute" in the Middle East/Asia is not going to make more money online - that whole line of reasoning made no sense, since there are millions of highly attractive ME/Asian women who would (and always have) cornered the market in the sex industry in wealthy Middle Eastern areas. Of course there is money in the Middle East, and a demand for illegal activities, but women have no power in such a landscape at all - especially when breaking laws in multiple countries at once involving their platform, their pay sources, etc... it is akin to money laundering on top of all the other dangers. And why ask a site that is known to be predominantly English-speaking, US-based, white women, to service an industry that OP is claiming is very culture-specific?

This is a poor business plan from every angle. Proof that this guy doesn't know what he's doing, and is going to lose you all your money on top of possibly getting you implicated in an international black market scandal (that 100% is going to end up having human trafficking ultimately involved in it - because where there is money, sex, and black market dealings, that will always follow) is that he wrote asking for help on a site that is the complete opposite of a pace where he is likely to get a warm reception, poorly communicated his original intent, and then couldn't handle the misunderstandings and criticisms in a diplomatic way, nor better explain his business proposal. He is going to be pimping real girls, the second that any of these rich Middle Eastern dudes offer a ton of money for her real contact info, or to meet her in person for a "lavish vacation at his estate." We all as cam models know exactly how this industry works, and what customers are like. Especially the arrogant ones with a lot of money and power. Especially in the underground market. Camming is barely safe, even for girls in countries in which it is legal, due to stalking and all manner of other issues, on top of difficulty ensuring earnings are actually paid... and this guy does not even have enough respect for the girls he wants to make money off of to learn how their business works, or what their experiences are so he could protect the women he works "WITH"! Fuck this guy, and all others like him. If you want to break the law and risk your own neck, there are plenty of hacks that are more lucrative, and require less cooperation from other people, than this hair-brained scheme. Hard enough getting bootlegged porn tapes in those countries, much less a camming experience which would require clear communication between the parties and a consistent way of streaming into their homes and receiving payment before the authorities, which will have a special vendetta against you (you can't pay them ALL off!), will inevitably catch you.



Black market sex trade always ends badly for women - especially in countries where women are not even allowed to walk around without their hair covered, or drive a car, or work a normal job. It harms the women who live in those countries with the men who are consuming the porn. And it harms the women who are breaking multiple laws internationally to try to get such illegal content to guys whose dicks are 100% not worth it. Let them jack off to their own imagination if they want porn so bad. Start with allowing women outside without an escort, and prosecuting rape cases. Not with making them think women are even more in need of sexual repression, and that outside countries are even more the infidel than they thought and in need of immediate bombing.

Bin Laden had a stash of porn. Black market stuff like this helps to lead to genuine international consequences when religious fervor is involved, money, and the only real contact some people have in the region with "Western" culture is through porn, the music industry, and basketball stars. They thinks that's all we are, and it melds into jealousy mixed with hatred mixed with a huge amount of misunderstanding. I have traveled extensively around the globe, including Muslim countries, and everywhere I go people think the stuff they see off of "Western" media is representative of how everyday people live in "Western" countries. Consequently, they think all white women are whores, and all white men own 3 car garages, and all black men in the US are some kind of rap star. No matter how much you argue with them, a picture is worth a thousand words. And just imagine the cultural impact of camming, in a country where women don't even show their knees. It skips too many steps, and leads to further disrespect of women, and far less human rights and freedom for local women in the Middle East.

 

[Fatquack]

If you need a pimp, you should only use my program, not a single complaint after three months, 100% user satisfaction!
https://www.ambercutie.com/forums/threads/great-opportunity-for-models.30365/

 

[gddp]

But we already have some ME clients tho. They use a VPN... If he wants to target that market create a white label and do affliate marketing. Why isn't this an option. You'd have to rely on word of mouth, and cleaver marketing.

I'm verrrry uninformed about that, but OP seemed to think VPNs and white labels couldn't be used effectively in specific ME countries mentioned (one was Saudi Arabia). That said, I would not be surprised if the man behind the black market Skype show plan had some faulty info lol

 

[nzhere]

Did you just say something positive about chaturbate? *Faints*

SO that RACIST policy has gone

 

[justjoinedtopost]

Hi

Famous last words

 

[heybarkeep]

Hard enough getting bootlegged porn tapes in those countries

huh, post was already pretty suspect

the authorities, which will have a special vendetta against you (you can't pay them ALL off!), will inevitably catch you.

Ah,yeah, no idea how things really work. Shocker. Alright, what else can we surmise by the post. What motivated it?

Black market sex trade always ends badly for women

Hot take. Really going out on a limb there.

- especially in countries where women are not even allowed to walk around without their hair covered, or drive a car, or work a normal job. It harms the women who live in those countries with the men who are consuming the porn. And it harms the women who are breaking multiple laws internationally to try to get such illegal content to guys whose dicks are 100% not worth it. Let them jack off to their own imagination if they want porn so bad. Start with allowing women outside without an escort, and prosecuting rape cases. Not with making them think women are even more in need of sexual repression, and that outside countries are even more the infidel than they thought and in need of immediate bombing.

This seems like a pretty open and shut case here Johnson.

Black market stuff like this helps to lead to genuine international consequences when religious fervor is involved, money, and the only real contact some people have in the region with "Western" culture is through porn, the music industry, and basketball stars.

Wild. I hadn't even considered time travel playing a role. Why did you travel back to 1992?

I have traveled extensively around the globe

Said not one well traveled person in history. They wouldn't need to say it. Only those trying to appear as something they aren't would.

Consequently, they think all white women are whores, and all white men own 3 car garages, and all black men in the US are some kind of rap star.

More proof of what was already obvious. Not relevant but I'm sure they still really love white women and don't think of them as whores. American women still aren't thought of well I'd imagine but that is a global thing, hardly exclusive to one area. Alright, time to solve the mystery.


You are an American woman around the age of 21. Very white. Very liberal. Currently pregnant, you think, with child number 7. The father is whichever unlucky soul at the bar that night that was too nice and couldn't hurt the feelings of a woman. Do you prefer to prey on those guys over the ones that grin and bear it because they have standards they are expected to live up to? Which is easiest to exploit and con to get your pity sex from? You might be confused by the whole having standards to live up to thing I mentioned. Not something you need concern yourself with. Please do consider the option of being a competent mother with this one. Don't worry, you aren't expected to do this, just a fun option. We get it, being held accountable and other big scary words are gross and problematic for you.

I presume you spend morbid amounts of time talking about rape statistics online without even pretending that you aren't using it as a tool. You are only interested in gold medals at the victim Olympics and throw tantrums when prison rape is involved. Really skews the numbers you weirdly and randomly always bring up. Numbers you see as gold medals that grant you instant access to your addiction of attention and pity. Like junkies that will do anything for a fix you downplay rape and gleefully take pride in winning a game that nobody but you wants to play. Against an opponent that has never existed.

I assume that you blame everything on the patriarchy or straight white males. Those sneaky straight white males are always using their jedi mind trick powers to influence others to constantly make terrible decisions. Buncha jerks always acting all high and mighty about holding themselves to standards.

You tell others to check their privilege and often wonder why people don't take you seriously. You are blissfully unaware of how hated you are by the minorities you often claim to have it worse than. When presented with mountains of evidence of your privilege, you usually fly into a rage and do a wide range of activities. Any poor behavior at this time can be blamed on an even wider range of excuses so why not have fun with it. You won't be judged poorly for it. Poor behavior is the only thing others expect from you.

I apologize for using your post to poke a bit of fun with a few popular American stereotypes. You were unknowingly being dumb so I hope intentionally dumb brings perfect balance. Word to Thanos.

 

[DJ_Pioneer]

Even though we have had a couple of contenders for this prestigious award this week the clear winner was james5137 who through his charm even managed to get himself banned from this forum. Congratulations James no one deserved it more than you!

 

[heybarkeep]

Even though we have had a couple of contenders

Wasn't even close. Avatar choice alone left no doubt of the results. Will be impossible to fully explain but I'm positive a few will get it. Like that dude thinks he looks interesting or alluring in that pic he briefly had. Maybe he does to some. Maybe some women like those kind of pics. Won't pretend to know but that pic is what I'd expect from a repressed serial killer with no self awareness. Comes off as anything but what he is going for. Reflecting on all of lifes mysteries haha. Probably wondering about how different life would be if he could live it more openly. The filth that I will generously label as posts of his were insurance runs.

Cliche American college girl still putting in work and deserving of honorable mention this week. In defense of my country, misunderstandings surrounding the meaning and use of the word award really holds us back. A lack of nefarious intentions can really cost us in late game situations.

 

[Alexis Curley]

ME + Camming = danger

 

[TemporarilyWhining]

What motivated it?

This rant was strange fiction indeed.

As I have posted elsewhere, so not difficult info to find out, I am a gay woman in my 30s. I have 2 Masters and a PhD, and study issues related to this (tangentially - I do not specialize in the Middle East, nor did I ever claim to, but I do work with women of color in countries all around the world) for a living. I am a professor, who turned to camming when I became ill with a life-threatening illness and was too sick to work in academia anymore despite a very successful career for my age to that point. I have published multiple articles, and was near completion of a book when I fell ill. I have traveled to 34 countries so far (plus many additional territories and commonwealths), some for work, and I am pretty decent in 3 languages, and can communicate basics in 7 languages total.

I do not hate men at all, but I do hate pimps, and entitled male assholes. I am a survivor of child sexual assault, and of sexual assault as an adult. Child sex trafficking and pornography have personally affected me. I work in my adult life to change these conditions for future kids and grown women.

I have no children. I don't need to have pity sex, because I am a cam girl, who looks significantly younger than my age (just a genetics thing that runs in my family, nothing to brag about). I have my pick of prospects all the time. But I am ill now, so do not sleep with anyone. I do not drink, or do any drugs, and do not go to bars. When I was healthy, I was extremely selective about who I had a serious relationship with and who I slept with, and the total number is extremely low - like embarrassingly. Due to my sexual assault history, I don't trust people, and so while I really enjoy sex, I only sleep with someone I'm in a serious relationship with, and my relationships tend to be very long so I don't date around. Plus of course I've been focused on my career, and having children or sleeping around would have hindered my completion of my degrees (and my standing in my career, because word gets around in academia). I am now at an age where I'd be ready to have kids, but can't ethically make that decision given that my prognosis is uncertain. I have had no shortage of people who have offered to have kids with me though... but I take that decision very seriously.

Some of the other parts about your rant were so incoherent and confusing I'm not sure how to address them.

So it turns out that your predictions are nearly 100% incorrect. So hopefully you don't read a crystal ball for a living, because you suck at it. But, while I don't like to feed the trolls, I do notice that you decided to personally attack me just for posting facts against a black market cyber pimp who had no decent business plan. None of which was personal, it was just business, and a concern for the very real women who would be affected by such a stupid and illegal idea. While your rant had nothing at all to do with me, it actually was very offensive to all the other models here, because it showed what you assume us all to be like. This site is, for better or worse, by and large young, white women from English-speaking countries, many of them in the US, many of them liberal. Your stereotypical views of them as people who sleep around, have many children at an early age, have a victim mentality, and have no standards they have to personally meet is not only ignorant, but insulting to everyone here, to all cam models, and to all women.

But if you enjoy proving yourself to be a douche in public, at least that gives the rest of society a chance to steer clear. So thanks for throwing up the red flags that you support black market pimps, and talk down to women in general.

I'm not sure otherwise what the point of your post was. Just to insult women, in a forum of predominantly women, I guess. Congrats on that achievement. You're a big man, and I'm sure you have a very big dick that you'd like to show all of us now in c2c.

 

[heybarkeep]

So thanks for throwing up the red flags that you support black market pimps, and talk down to women in general.

At no point did I even attempt to defend black markets. You are an uneducated bigot and an unoriginal troll. I will talk down to your kind every chance I get. Has nothing to do with being a woman.

I'm not sure otherwise what the point of your post was.

To laugh at you for being so oblivious mostly. You didn't need to stretch the truth or make up stories to make your point. You did it because you are an insecure racist.

You're a big man, and I'm sure you have a very big dick that you'd like to show all of us now in c2c.

Eww. Classic simpleton. Pretending to be desirable on any level.

 

[justjoinedtopost]

I'm not sure otherwise what the point of your post was. Just to insult women, in a forum of predominantly women, I guess.

I'm not sure that is true.

I apologize for using your post to poke a bit of fun with a few popular American stereotypes. You were unknowingly being dumb so I hope intentionally dumb brings perfect balance.

Seems barkeep was saying you were being dumb, so he decided to mirror you with some dumb stereotypes. And while his post was pretty over the top, your response did reveal there was at least an element of truth in it.

 

[AmberCutie]

You are an uneducated bigot and an unoriginal troll. I will talk down to your kind every chance I get. Has nothing to do with being a woman.

Did you switch Deodorant brands or start taking a new vitamin lately? Because suddenly you've gone on this strange spree, and the parts that actually make sense seem to be unnecessary attacks.

Reel it in, aye?

 

[heybarkeep]

Did you switch Deodorant brands or start taking a new vitamin lately? Because suddenly you've gone on this strange spree, and the parts that actually make sense seem to be unnecessary attacks.

Reel it in, aye?

Will do but my posts are far from confusing. Her posts would be the unnecessary attacks by the way. Mine are more reactionary.

 

[TemporarilyWhining]

Well, not sure how I ended up being such a subject on a thread that I am only a very tangential part of, that has nothing to do with me, when the OP has already been banned on top of it. But, just for the fun of it, I wrote a reply in a paragraph, using 11 different languages I know a bit of. My apologies that some of these languages are only transliterated as they don't use this alphabet and I can't type them out in their proper characters, and that here and there my grammar may suck. I'm not a linguist for a living, and don't claim to be fluent in all of these. I just know enough to get by in the things that I have needed them for. Some I am better in than others.

For the other models, I thought you all would have fun trying to name all the languages - bonus points to anyone who can list all 11 in their correct order! (but some are a bit more obscure, plus not using the right lettering, so it would be hard to get them all) The langages/colloquialisms span 4 continents.
+1,000,000 points if you can actually translate the whole thing, which few people would be able to do probably on Earth... Hell, given the brain damage this disease has caused me, I'm amazed I can even do it! Half the time I can barely speak English... But I would bet there will be people on here who can understand a few of them, because lots of people on here speak more than just English.

When someone questions the veracity of your entire life on the internet, there is not really much you can say about it. But I can at least prove that I have traveled, and I study. And, I do know a bit about culture. People are free to love or hate me. I have been very fortunate in my life to have some fierce love from a number of people that has grounded me through the tougher times. But I am at least what I say I am.

So, have at it! Each separate language in the paragraph is numbered:

1. Selam, Ebdehsu. Min ti-fel igaleh? Eh ref. Libdash!
2. Non credi – dubitar non mio cor. Credilo pur, e se timor t'assale, aprimi il petto e vedrai scritto in core: la verita.
3. Ana uhad-dir ad-duktoorah. Ana a’mal’ala injaaz fikra li-kitaab. Ana a’mal fil-bait.
4. Por eso, !vete a echar pulgas a otra parte! Lo siento que su vida es lleno de miseria, pero no sabe de que habla. Por favor, para de ser lenguasuelta – esas no son mas que mentiras.
5. C’est vrai, j’etudie les femmes et je travaille a l’universite. Je suis celibataire, en ce moment.
Pourquoi riez-vous? Est-ce que mon francais est si mauvais que ca?
S’il vous plait, laissez-moi tranquille!
6. En ymmarra – puhutteko englantia? Nakemiin.
7. Ich muss jetzt aufhoren. Lassen Sie mich bitte in Ruhe.
8. Laila tov. Bevakasha, tzetech l’shalom, ve shuvech l’shalom.
9. Dos vidanya (dovidjenja) – spaceba bolshoi!
10. Zaijan.
11. Sayonara. Owarimashita.



My best to all of you ladies. And to the women of the Middle East, Salaam. As-salamu alaykum.

 

[TemporarilyWhining]

Bada' yuDaayiqnee haadha S-SabaaH... haadha al-walad kaadhib.
Don't black market cam in the Middle East. It's unsafe, ladies. At the simplest, you're unlikely to get your money when the whole thing is shut down. And of course, much worse can happen. Salaam.

 

[BufordT]

I thought this thread died. How did It turn away from shutting down a bad idea to throwing insults? @heybarkeep you made a lot of assumptions and it seems most were wrong. @TemporarilyWhining you could chill a little It might at least take his edge off. Also:

1: Arabic
2 Italian
3. Arabic (again) Ok so I use google and don't know dialects lol
4. Spanish (only slightly more familiar with this although I wish to be better)
5. French (which I should know better from school)
6. French (again?) a regional variation perhaps?
7. German
8. Swedish
9. Croation (why don't we all just speak Russian?)
10. Filipino (hmm, Filipino is hard to call one language, that isn't Tagalog is it?)
11. Japanese

I'm a little disappointed you didn't include any Chinese Thanks for the quiz though. Considering I am the most linguistically challenged person you will ever know it was still fun. And I still probably didn't get it all correct lol.