Anyone else excited for nood.tv?

[gudheadt]

How much does model get, is it 7 cents like @gudheadt said earlier?

from what i got told from them then yes, it will be 7 cent.

 

[weirdbr]

How much does model get, is it 7 cents like @gudheadt said earlier?

No idea; she hasn't posted updated information about that yet other than the tweet that gudheadt mentioned previously.

Now, as for the site from this test:
- it could use some mouse tooltips - it's heavily icon-based and the icons are non-descript
- tips are separate from goals; if viewers want to contribute to a goal, they click on the 'star' icon, which costs a few tokens (I think I heard 10)
- it seems to work well with two input sources - the main stream was using a DSLR, but for close-ups/randomly showing stuff in her house, she was using her iphone (sounded like they've made an app exclusively for that) and used it in picture-in-picture mode and later changed it to be the main view so she could wander around.
- it looks like you can use an external device for keeping track of chat - in her case, an ipad.

 

[Tilly]

Personally, I am very excited! It seems like a completely new concept with lots of great innovative features. I just hope I get a chance to be a part of it! Seems like a really fun way to broadcast.

 

[CherryChu]

I just heard of this today. It looks interesting but complicated... or at least, it's complicated because I'm not used to it, haha. But if she's going to take on board the criticisms that have been aimed at MFC and CB and try to find a solution for them, then it could be a really good thing.

 

[NerdieBirdie]

I never saw anyone mention it in my Twitter feed EVER until yesterday when like 20 people I follow started tweeted and retweeted NoodTv. I'd like to try it out when it debuts. Based on polls and tweets models and members have made on Twitter, it looks like a lot of members are wanting to try it out when it launches, so of course being there in the first days should (could) be beneficial. I've been toying with being somewhere that isn't MFC for SO LONG but everything else is so sex act based so I've just remained at MFC. But MFC realllllllly let me down with being inoperable for 12+ hours on a day I had a 12 hour cammathon scheduled. It fully impacted my life and has made the next few weeks a struggle because I didn't hit the financial numbers I needed in life, which I could have easily done had I been able to work. It sucked. Then I still couldn't broadcast on the 1st, yesterday was glitchy, and today my audio/visual is lagging so much (its not me, I checked) that people find it annoying to stay in my room because its difficult to follow. I can't continue to work on a non-working website.

What is most exciting to me about NoodTv is that they say they will be allowing public broadcasts/shows as long as they are not sexual in nature. Which is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO exciting to me. They said that the non-sexual/nude show options will be just like Periscope except people can tip. This opens soooo many doors for me that I can no longer do because MFC prohibited public camming. When I did public camming, I never was naked, and I grossed my highest income, so the ability to stream anywhere at any time and profit from it is soooo enticing I cannot wait!

 

[Mira_xo]

Nood.tv looks exciting, but I agree many models are hyping it up before even knowing what it will be.

Some good things I feel Nood has:

• Designed by a cam model (though other people are on the "nood" team now)
• Can save recordings of shows & sell for tokens later
• Nood has promised to never take more than 30% of earnings

Some things I am skeptical of:

• Right now, Nood's entire fan base is Chloe's fan base, and a recent conversation on twitter implied they don't have a marketing budget and are rather hoping on word of mouth to gain traffic. So, small member base.
• Chloe has a very professional-looking way of camming. Someone else in this thread compared her life to stock images, which is what it seems. This is not the norm for most models, and I wonder if she would be okay with different types of camming on her site, as right now it's just her and they're introducing other models only "by invitation."
• Change is scary

 

[Mila_]

I will have to agree with @AmberCutie 100% on this. My experience so far on the internet is this: the more the developers overhype their product before launching it the more "smoke and mirrors" their product will turn out to be. Often they won't even release it at all. Nood.tv could be the exception to this pattern, sure, but it is unlikely given the trend.

I remember a while back when some devs from Wordpress quitted their jobs and decided to build their own blogging platform from scratch. It was going to be called Ghost and it was going to be amazing. They claimed they were going to bring the end of Wordpress and also: It was indie! open source! it would include Markdown and a split-screen editor! The admin panel would have the best statistics ever! it was so so beautifully designed! they said they were basically going to incorporate into their platform all the things bloggers had been asking and begging WP to include for years.

What happened? They got a crazy amount of publicity. Everyone threw roses at them from day 1. They created a Kickstarter campaign and raised over $300k. They developed Ghost and launched it but could only deliver on half of the promises they made at the beginning. Nobody switched to Ghost because people were used to Wordpress and Ghost wasn't as spectacular as they said it would be. There wasn't an incentive to switch to a new platform. In the end it was simply one more blogging platform that nobody uses.

I have seen this same routine repeat itself so many times when it comes to new exciting "online ventures" and it is always the more modest people who launch their product without much hype the ones that end up making great websites.

So I don't have a lot of faith in Nood.tv. I also think the design looks too girlie, and I am not entirely sure I swallow the idea that this camgirl is behind it. Maybe she is simply the image they want to give to it. Reminds me of what is going on in Youtube with these networks pushing their personalities to attract brands. How supposedly Casey Neistat, for example, is the person behind a crappy photography app called Beme when it is pretty obvious they are only using his name and image to launch the app.

 

[JoleneBrody]

Chloe has been building this site and talking about it for a LONG time, so she's def the person behind it. I remember her talking about it when it was just a baby idea with no name.
I do find the development time a little concerning though because it's been a very long time coming, but it does appear to be getting built from scratch and that's going to take more time than most camsites using an established platform builder.
It might be the greatest camsite ever when it launches, but by advertising itself as a platform to "replace MFC and chaturbate", it looses almost all respect from me. If you have to rely and putting other companies down AS your advertising, I can only assume you do not hold your own value.
Sell me on you, not on who your competing with. .I love MFC and am forever grateful for the life changing opportunities they have given me, so that tag line statement makes me get defensive of my home and never want to use it.

 

[weirdbr]

I do find the development time a little concerning though because it's been a very long time coming, but it does appear to be getting built from scratch and that's going to take more time than most camsites using an established platform builder.

Considering their approach (which seems to be writing it all, instead of buying/outsourcing), the development time is in line with what would be required specially for a team as small as theirs; also AFAIK Chloe originally wasn't a coder or project manager, so it would require the time for her to get up to speed and to bootstrap a development team. In fact, I would even say that this has been relatively fast - for comparison, you could look at Youtube and how long it took between the site first had live streams (which were 'white glove' only, with close collaboration between Youtube and the broadcasters) and the 'everyone can stream' option - that took around 5 years IIRC and they have considerably larger development teams.

 

[Sevrin]

Nood.tv looks, to me, like a really nice solo site, but how many models can you showcase like that on one site? Has anyone seen mock-ups? I have a hard time picturing how they are planning to scale it up to accommodate hundreds of models online simultaneously. It looks beautifully polished, but that's pretty easy to do when you're dealing with large, high-quality images of a single, highly-motivated model who is one of the principals. That polish is a lot harder to maintain with hundreds of models from all over the world with varying quality feeds and attitudes toward attention to detail.

Anyway, it looks really nice, and will be worth keeping an eye on for that reason alone.

 

[AmberCutie]

It might be the greatest camsite ever when it launches, but by advertising itself as a platform to "replace MFC and chaturbate", it looses almost all respect from me. If you have to rely and putting other companies down AS your advertising, I can only assume you do not hold your own value.
Sell me on you, not on who your competing with. .I love MFC and am forever grateful for the life changing opportunities they have given me, so that tag line statement makes me get defensive of my home and never want to use it.

That's pretty much the only beef I have with it, too. If there was no putdown/comparison to the other major sites, I probably would have had a better first impression of it and would want to advertise and support it. I do like some of the features and look of parts of the site. But as it stands right now I'm just waiting to see how it turns out. I'm not wishing them ill will or anything, but nor am I cheering from the sideline as it gets built.

 

[JoleneBrody]

That's pretty much the only beef I have with it, too. If there was no putdown/comparison to the other major sites, I probably would have had a better first impression of it and would want to advertise and support it. I do like some of the features and look of parts of the site. But as it stands right now I'm just waiting to see how it turns out. I'm not wishing them ill will or anything, but nor am I cheering from the sideline as it gets built.

I'm pleased to report that it looks like they changed that tag line.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

I'm pleased to report that it looks like they changed that tag line.

I take it you're not referring to the one on the founders twitter page?
https://twitter.com/newchloe18

 

[Boog]

Hmm interesting, first I'm hearing of this site as well. It'd probably be best if they completely drop the MFC/Chaturbate/random site comparison because it will 100% take a long time to reach that level [1) most people don't like starting from scratch, 2) new site, new revenue stream, new potential payment problems, 3) site security/support/updates 4) the public decides how good you actually are]. Until then, its like a newborn puppy barking at a full grown dog

They said that the non-sexual/nude show options will be just like Periscope except people can tip

Without more detail, this part has me even more skeptical. I'm not gonna pretend to be well versed in international law, but generally once money is involved, don't you need waivers signed and all sorts of stuff so people that show up on cam don't come back and sue since you've now turned said broadcast into a commercial product?

I'm not saying the site will fail, I would love to see a successful cam site addressing issues a lot of camgirls talk about, but its too easy to underestimate your workload and promise the world before you start digging deeper(especially if she just started coding like someone else mentioned in this thread).

 

[WebcamStartup]

Without more detail, this part has me even more skeptical. I'm not gonna pretend to be well versed in international law, but generally once money is involved, don't you need waivers signed and all sorts of stuff so people that show up on cam don't come back and sue since you've now turned said broadcast into a commercial product?

"International Law" = TOS claiming you won't break any "local laws". It's so easy to legally break international laws that way. It's the domestic laws you have to worry about. Hell, a well written TOS is why all the sites will accept SE Asian models, despite it being illegal in those countries. All the sites are protected because the Asian models agree that they won't break any local laws. If it's ever reported; ban!

Truth is, none (or very little) of the sites care if models are camming illegally on their platform as long as there's no blowback on them. Hell, that's very true for many entire verticals. Which law is all fiat to begin with, so I'm kind of in the same boat on that issue.

And "User Generated Content" has been monetized since the concept of UGC has been developed. I know that Europe doesn't have the same 2257 standards, and has more privacy standards for performers, but the equivalent of those laws is the huge legal hurdle with monetizing someone else's adult UGC.

Any further intellectual property legal issues would be more of a French thing, and I'm not really on top of EU intellectual property laws.

 

[Gen]

"International Law" = TOS claiming you won't break any "local laws". It's so easy to legally break international laws that way. It's the domestic laws you have to worry about. Hell, a well written TOS is why all the sites will accept SE Asian models, despite it being illegal in those countries. All the sites are protected because the Asian models agree that they won't break any local laws. If it's ever reported; ban!

Truth is, none (or very little) of the sites care if models are camming illegally on their platform as long as there's no blowback on them. Hell, that's very true for many entire verticals. Which law is all fiat to begin with, so I'm kind of in the same boat on that issue.

And "User Generated Content" has been monetized since the concept of UGC has been developed. I know that Europe doesn't have the same 2257 standards, and has more privacy standards for performers, but the equivalent of those laws is the huge legal hurdle with monetizing someone else's adult UGC.

Any further intellectual property legal issues would be more of a French thing, and I'm not really on top of EU intellectual property laws.

I thought MFC still banned models from certain Asian countries? I could be wrong.

Also I think Chloe is French-Canadian, not French, so she'd be likely hosting the site in Canada, if that's what you meant at the end.

I take it you're not referring to the one on the founders twitter page?
https://twitter.com/newchloe18

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I don't like the "use someone else's name to boost yourself" tactic but I wonder if she's doing it in case people are searching for Chaturbate/MFC on Twitter so her profile will pop up and pique their interest?

 

[Sevrin]

Also I think Chloe is French-Canadian, not French, so she'd be likely hosting the site in Canada, if that's what you meant at the end.

She is Québecoise, but nood.tv is hosted in the US, by Amazon.

 

[WebcamStartup]

I thought MFC still banned models from certain Asian countries? I could be wrong.

If they do, they're one of the few. I laugh every time I see a site actually display an Indian flag (MV for example) on a profile page. Hell, MV even lists their Indian models. You got me fucked up if you're trying to tell me no one over there is aware that production and sale of porn is illegal in India, just like most of Asia. You'll find Asian models from prohibition countries on pretty much every other camming site / adult marketplace site, too.


Hmmm.....For whatever reason I assumed she was from France. I guess I just assumed because of the language.

 

[Sevrin]

When people talk about "Asian" models, they're mostly talking about the Philippines. MFC used to have a separate Asian page, with almost(?) exclusively Filipina models. In May 2011, MFC suspended the creation of new model accounts from there, and then closed the Asian page a few months later, moving only highly-rated models to the main site.

Chloe makes no secret about being from Quebec, or even from Montreal. She does block us, I believe, since I've never seen her on live cam. I hope they're planning in instituting blocks once the site goes live.

 

[WebcamStartup]

When people talk about "Asian" models, they're mostly talking about the Philippines. MFC used to have a separate Asian page, with almost(?) exclusively Filipina models. In May 2011, MFC suspended the creation of new model accounts from there, and then closed the Asian page a few months later, moving only highly-rated models to the main site.

Chloe makes no secret about being from Quebec, or even from Montreal. She does block us, I believe, since I've never seen her on live cam. I hope they're planning in instituting blocks once the site goes live.

I stand corrected. False assumptions based on language.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

I understand the hype over this new site. But I am curious about one thing. Has anyone seen any mention of a time frame for it? Does anyone even know if it's planned to be running in weeks, months...are we looking at 10 years down the road?

I know everyone likes to talk about the public camming, and the openness, and being built by a camgirl...and all the other things abuzz on twitter. But it just seems like it's way too early to be hyping up what so far amounts to nothing more than a few short video clips posted to a personal web page and a 'very' few other place holder sub pages. I really see no infrastructure made that backs up any of the hype. So I'm guessing this is a long freaking time off from being ready for camgirls to go live streaming on to make an income?

Anyone actually heard anything different?

 

[Protocosmo]

I understand the hype over this new site. But I am curious about one thing. Has anyone seen any mention of a time frame for it? Does anyone even know if it's planned to be running in weeks, months...are we looking at 10 years down the road?

I know everyone likes to talk about the public camming, and the openness, and being built by a camgirl...and all the other things abuzz on twitter. But it just seems like it's way too early to be hyping up what so far amounts to nothing more than a few short video clips posted to a personal web page and a 'very' few other place holder sub pages. I really see no infrastructure made that backs up any of the hype. So I'm guessing this is a long freaking time off from being ready for camgirls to go live streaming on to make an income?

Anyone actually heard anything different?

According to their Twitter account, they'll be adding a couple of new models to help in testing the site this month. Also, I actually attended a cam show complete with tipping on my part. Seemed pretty legit to me.

 

[WombRaider]

The claim that they will payout 70% to models is a huge red flag for me.
Verotel the payment processor that they're using will be taking a 13% cut at the absolute minimum.
This will leave them with 17% to run, develop and advertise the site.
There is no chance whatsoever that the site will have all those promised advanced technical features, continued fantastic prompt customer Support, good traffic numbers and be just as or more reliable than mfc/cb when they're taking such a small slice of the revenue. (Unless they have got substantial financial backing that i'm unaware of)?

I would love to be proven wrong but many cam sites in the past have promised so much to models/members and then gone on to deliver so little before closing down penniless. (If they even actually go live).

 

[mindyxlush]

I can see how responsive is important for the end-user, but I've never really understood everyone's infatuation with being able to host shows from a mobile phone. Maybe it's because I'm out here in rural Colorado where reception is shit and it would never really work in this state unless you were in the Denver Metro Area. Even with a wifi connection, it's not going to be nearly as fast as if there was an ethernet connection.

I guess I can see some application for streaming from the outdoors, but that's really the only circumstances that I'd see that being of value. Hell, even the fact that you've got to hold the phone the entire time seems awkward.

Also from rural CO and can TOTALLY attest to this. Reception is a living nightmare in my area.

Also, on a separate note, I've honestly only ever heard one mention of this platform (albeit, outlining aforementioned problems) but I agree that it's pretty ambitious (read: awesome) that a model is working on breaking into the business of creating something to this effect.

Guess my reaction is a bit of a mixed bag..

 

[WebcamStartup]

Also from rural CO and can TOTALLY attest to this. Reception is a living nightmare in my area.

Also, on a separate note, I've honestly only ever heard one mention of this platform (albeit, outlining aforementioned problems) but I agree that it's pretty ambitious (read: awesome) that a model is working on breaking into the business of creating something to this effect.

Guess my reaction is a bit of a mixed bag..

Price we pay for the rivers, mountains, slopes and legal weed

Personally I like being able to shut off the entire world if I simply ignore my FB / email.

[Back on topic, I won't derail again, I promise]

Personally, the hype is the only thing that has me interested. Otherwise I would have had no faith or interest in this platform at all. And it's not so much faith as I'm curious to see what features would make a platform better than CB and MFC in Cloe's eyes.

.......But then again, I also had a severe lack of faith in Camsoda, so what the hell do I really know, anyway?

 

[BritneySiren]

This is my first time hearing about this... I'm glad that a cam girl is being so ambitious. I hope it succeeds! Very impressive doing the coding herself as well. I know I putt off having my own site for fears of coding (thankfully I found a way around that but still) *fingers crossed so tight for this*

 

[Ann_Sulu]

Though I feel some members can get a bit ridiculous with names, some of these banned words for usernames I feel are a bit much. It's just asking for members to try and have their names "disguised" in leetspeek or misspelled just enough to get through sensors.

 

[LuckySmiles]

Though I feel some members can get a bit ridiculous with names, some of these banned words for usernames I feel are a bit much. It's just asking for members to try and have their names "disguised" in leetspeek or misspelled just enough to get through sensors.

yeah they seemed to tone it down but it still makes no sense to me.
like "fuck"... ?... I get it's just for member names but it makes no sense to me.

lovestofuck is just a regular horny guy....pantywhore's just got a fetish... cumslut probably does too ya know?

dont get it.

kissesandcuddlesbbxoxo are the one's you gotta look out for.

 

[NataliaGrey]

I am a little disappointed that they're going the "classy porn" route. It seems so stuffy to me. I feel like if a model really doesn't like a member's username, she can just block him and then she won't have to see it again. I get that it's natural for a camgirl to make a site that appeals to the way she would want her own room to be run, it would be hard to break away from thinking that is the "best" way to run it. If they force these ideals too much, though, then only one type of model is going attracted to the site, whereas if they let models have lots of freedom to run their rooms however they wish (within the limits that laws/payment processors allow), then many different models will be able to make it their home. To me, what makes camsites great is the variety. And that includes BitchSlut69 and her top tipper, AnalFuck4U.

 

[MelodyMaze]

ha