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The short story is a lady approached a friend about killing her husband. That guy thought it was a joke at the time but went to the police. An undercover detective posses as a hitman referred by said friend. The detective recorded both meetings and she's plead guilty to solicitation of murder. She wants him killed instead of a divorce to avoid the judgement of her family and his feelings. Check out a more in depth article and both videos at the link below.

http://sourcefednews.com/wannabe-widow- ... l-husband/

Having watched the videos I just cannot shake this creepy, chilling feeling. I mean... I'm single and my life insurance policy is insignificant but still get the urge to keep looking over my shoulder for some guy with a gun. It just gives me that empty feeling in my chest.
 
Mirra said:
The short story is a lady approached a friend about killing her husband. That guy thought it was a joke at the time but went to the police. An undercover detective posses as a hitman referred by said friend. The detective recorded both meetings and she's plead guilty to solicitation of murder. She wants him killed instead of a divorce to avoid the judgement of her family and his feelings. Check out a more in depth article and both videos at the link below.

http://sourcefednews.com/wannabe-widow- ... l-husband/

Having watched the videos I just cannot shake this creepy, chilling feeling. I mean... I'm single and my life insurance policy is insignificant but still get the urge to keep looking over my shoulder for some guy with a gun. It just gives me that empty feeling in my chest.
So my ex is really in to self-defense and survivalism. But he doesn't have a concealed carry permit, which I thought was odd. I asked him why he only carried a knife in public and not a gun. "What if someone else wants to shoot you?" I asked. He said that if someone wants to shoot you there's really not a lot you can do to stop them, they'll just walk up behind you and shoot you and you would never know any better. So I guess if it makes you feel better there is no reason to be paranoid because you couldn't stop them anyway?

Also, call me a cynic, but isn't $400,000 quite a bit to pay just to have someone murdered? I could see like fifty grand, but goodness. And then what if the insurance doesn't pay out so you can't pay off the hitman? Or what if it gets stalled for years? That just seems like bad business for both parties. Seems like a bad idea to promise a hitman money you don't have.
 
Evvie said:
So my ex is really in to self-defense and survivalism. But he doesn't have a concealed carry permit, which I thought was odd. I asked him why he only carried a knife in public and not a gun. "What if someone else wants to shoot you?" I asked. He said that if someone wants to shoot you there's really not a lot you can do to stop them, they'll just walk up behind you and shoot you and you would never know any better. So I guess if it makes you feel better there is no reason to be paranoid because you couldn't stop them anyway?

Jimmy Hoffa once said "Always run from a knife and rush a gun."

Nobody's sure where that advice got him.
 
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That was absolutely chilling. Life in prison, yes, all the way. If that wasn't a police officer, her husband would be dead. Thank god her friend tipped off the police...

And yeah, I think her husband is crazy for asking the judge to give her no jail time. They both are pretty disturbed.

Evvie said:
Also, call me a cynic, but isn't $400,000 quite a bit to pay just to have someone murdered? I could see like fifty grand, but goodness. And then what if the insurance doesn't pay out so you can't pay off the hitman? Or what if it gets stalled for years? That just seems like bad business for both parties. Seems like a bad idea to promise a hitman money you don't have.

The "hitman" only was asking $50,000. The life insurance policy was for $400,000 so she was planning on making out with a good $350,000.
 
rexcode said:
Jimmy Hoffa once said "Always run from a knife and rush a gun."

Nobody's sure where that advice got him.

far off topic, but theres some validity to that, assuming you have some training getting in close to a shooter lets you gain control of the business end before they can pull the trigger. but that only works inside of 15 feet or so (depending on how fast you are and they are). outside of that range if theyre going to shoot, hope that their aim sucks and bob and weave like crazy. and if the gun isnt out and pointed at you already your options are more open.
conversely against a knife they have to close distance to injure you so running is probably the better bet since even with training you are probably going to wind up cut at least once, which i always doubted til i got attacked with knives a couple of times. even with several years of training behind me i at least got scratched before i disarmed or incapacitated the assailant
 
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southsamurai said:
rexcode said:
Jimmy Hoffa once said "Always run from a knife and rush a gun."

Nobody's sure where that advice got him.

far off topic, but theres some validity to that, assuming you have some training getting in close to a shooter lets you gain control of the business end before they can pull the trigger. but that only works inside of 15 feet or so (depending on how fast you are and they are). outside of that range if theyre going to shoot, hope that their aim sucks and bob and weave like crazy. and if the gun isnt out and pointed at you already your options are more open.
conversely against a knife they have to close distance to injure you so running is probably the better bet since even with training you are probably going to wind up cut at least once, which i always doubted til i got attacked with knives a couple of times. even with several years of training behind me i at least got scratched before i disarmed or incapacitated the assailant
Ever noticed in how action movies, the well trained spy/cop/good guy pulls out a gun and crosses the room to stand next to the bad guy?!

STAHP. U are doing ranged weaponry wrong. DO U NO WAT HAPPENS NEXT. The bad guy grabs your gun because you put it right in front of him, dipshit. You know how they say no one in a horror movie has ever seen a horror movie? No one in an action film has ever seen the Bourne Identity.
 
the most likely result when a policeman discharges a gun is that he or she will miss the target completely.
New York City police statistics show that simply hitting a target, let alone hitting it in a specific spot, is a difficult challenge. In 2006, in cases where police officers intentionally fired a gun at a person, they discharged 364 bullets and hit their target 103 times, for a hit rate of 28.3 percent, according to the department’s Firearms Discharge Report.

In all shootings — including those against people, animals and in suicides and other situations — New York City officers achieved a 34 percent accuracy rate (182 out of 540), and a 43 percent accuracy rate when the target ranged from zero to six feet away. Nearly half the shots they fired last year were within that distance.

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/12/09/weekinreview/09baker.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Because of TV and movies, people are always surprised at just how inaccurate firearms are when used under pressure. I always see comments on news reports asking why the police etc did not shoot to wound, shoot the bad guy in the leg or arm. They are lucky to even hit the bad guys let alone hit them in a specific spot. This doesn't just go for police, the expert marksman in special forces do not have a much better accuracy rate. Mainly we are talking about handguns.
 
Jawbs showed me the video yesterday and it left me feeling really strange for a few hours. Chills, heart rate felt irregular, felt a bit nauseous. I don't know how someone could actually think and say those things about someone they love, or once loved, and someone who TRUSTS them to never hurt them.
 
Evvie said:
Also, call me a cynic, but isn't $400,000 quite a bit to pay just to have someone murdered? I could see like fifty grand, but goodness. And then what if the insurance doesn't pay out so you can't pay off the hitman? Or what if it gets stalled for years? That just seems like bad business for both parties. Seems like a bad idea to promise a hitman money you don't have.


Heck no. If I was a hit man I would charge exorbitant amounts. High-risk, high-reward. Would you chance life in prison (or the death penalty, depending on the state; or the target fighting back) for $50k? I would not. Plus, the more money you charge to pick people off, the fewer people you'll have to murder...although I imagine that being a hired gun would mean I didn't care much about that sort of thing.
 
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Evvie said:
Also, call me a cynic, but isn't $400,000 quite a bit to pay just to have someone murdered? I could see like fifty grand, but goodness. And then what if the insurance doesn't pay out so you can't pay off the hitman? Or what if it gets stalled for years? That just seems like bad business for both parties. Seems like a bad idea to promise a hitman money you don't have.


Heck no. If I was a hit man I would charge exorbitant amounts. High-risk, high-reward. Would you chance life in prison (or the death penalty, depending on the state; or the target fighting back) for $50k? I would not. Plus, the more money you charge to pick people off, the fewer people you'll have to murder...although I imagine that being a hired gun would mean I didn't care much about that sort of thing.
I've always thought the bargain price of $5,000 was a good number. Make the big bucks by doing a volume business.
 
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