WHY?!??!??!

[Jo_Bunny]

This is a question for you MFC members-

Why in the bloody world do you/would you sit in a models room for at least 30 min, sometimes the whole time shes's logged on with hundreds or thousands of tokens in your account without tipping a SINGLE one?!?!?

This makes my blood BOIL especially if it's a slow shift.

What the hell gives???!?!?!?!?!?!

 

[Shaun__]

Some people think tipping is for suckers. They only do privates or buy videos and photosets.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

Some people think tipping is for suckers. They only do privates or buy videos and photosets.

Pretty much what Shaun said and to be honest in many rooms if all you do is watch the experience is pretty much the same for the guy freeloading and the few guys completing the countdowns.

A slightly more charitable view is that your favorite model tweets she'll be on in 30 minutes. So you log on, but your favorite model isn't logged (and cam models schedules aren't like train schedules) so you hang out in new model's room awaiting your favorite model to get on. You have budgeted X number of tokens for her for a skype show, video or because it her birthday or camiversary...

Oh and the best reason, which I've done a few times (although I think only in top model rooms) is I go to a room get distracted and just do something else.

Still I agree 30 minutes without tipping is rude especially if the guy is talking asking question and making requests.

 

[Zoomer]

Tips are gifts, not entitlements. So why should they tip and why do you think you deserve it? Were you doing a show or something?

I've said it before, but if we have tokens and we go into a room and a girl believes that because we have tokens she is entitled to those tokens simply for you being in her room - the site would not fucking work. We'd all be broke as shit for nothing whatsoever. Obligation to tip upon entering/staying if you had tokens? I wouldn't buy any

Bottom line - It's the members choice (whatever that choice is), where and when to spend the money. The where, and when, are both relevant. Maybe that's his entire monthly budget. Maybe he only tips for great shows? Maybe he doesn't tip. Maybe he prefers privates or groups? I know you know this, so why would he sit without tipping? Hopefully one fo those reasons...

It is the models choice whether she accepts that, or bans them

Quick FYI - why I would sit in a models room without tipping? If I am ever in a models room, with tokens, you are unlikely to see me tip until I work out whether I like you as a person. This has nothing to do with how naked you are, how many fingers you've got free, or how hot you are, or how much clothing you are wearing. It is all down to personality. THAT takes time!! I may not even speak for the first 10 mins as I see what you are like with others and the general room. Once I speak, I may still not tip or do anything else for a while - as I see what you are like again. But once I like someone, they'll know about it

 

[Jupiter551]

Tips are gifts, not entitlements. So why should they tip and why do you think you deserve it? Were you doing a show or something?

30 minutes is surely long enough that if someone wasn't enjoying something they'd leave.

If they're sitting in a room with tokens, for 30 mins, enjoying the view or the conversation or even just the atmosphere then the decent thing to do is tip. Doesn't have to be a cascade of tokens, but just something to show acknowledgement and appreciation.

I'm not saying a guy has to be jerking off or whatever but if he's sitting in a chatroom for 30 minutes then *something* about it is satisfying him, and is worthy of a tip. If they prefer private then they should discuss that with the model. But sitting there with tokens and doing nothing but gawking is just flat out rude.

 

[JickyJuly]

I am more bothered by the basics whose names show up in my room and stay silently often enough that I recognize them. At least if a member has tokens, I know he tips somebody on the site even if it's not me on that particular day.

 

[Zoomer]

If they're sitting in a room with tokens, for 30 mins, enjoying the view or the conversation or even just the atmosphere then the decent thing to do is tip. Doesn't have to be a cascade of tokens, but just something to show acknowledgement and appreciation.

I'm not saying a guy has to be jerking off or whatever but if he's sitting in a chatroom for 30 minutes then *something* about it is satisfying him, and is worthy of a tip. If they prefer private then they should discuss that with the model. But sitting there with tokens and doing nothing but gawking is just flat out rude.

You're essentially saying those who can afford to pay are obligated to do so - even if it's just listening/watching random chatter. That's called "pay per view", and isn't the business model of the site. If people want that business model, work elsewhere... sounds harsh, but a simple reality.

As said, I don't understand why people would sit there (certainly not for the entire models shift) without saying anything... or tipping... or anything whatsoever. That's just weird. But tipping every few minutes just for being in the room and "appreciating" whatever chat is going on? What happens when you then run out of funds and they want to try and get a show going? Or they set a target? Are you now, despite tipping due to the chatter, forced to leave because you've become a show freeloader? Does it now appear you don't appreciate the model - because you tipped for talk but aren't tipping for a show? Or are you forced to either spend yet more money, or log off?

Honestly, I tip for whatever I deem worthwhile tipping. That is the entire point of the tip. It isn't for what the model thinks I should tip for, it's what we the members believe is worth tipping for. Sometimes that's just a hello to a model. Sometimes it's to tell her a joke, sometimes it's just for the simple act of giving, sometimes it's to see a hot show. But it's the members choice to do so...

But if I am ever made to feel I am obliged to tip just because I've got money? Heck no. After all, the chatter/interaction members bring can be what causes others to stop and join in... but if I've got to pay to then contribute positively to the room's ambience through chatting - fuck no Not unless I choose to do so

 

[HarmlessSquirrel]

It's a good idea for members to hide their tokens, so this isn't as much of an issue, among other reasons. I've even heard models suggest that we do just that. It's kind of odd that one's tokens are visible anyway, kind of like having your wallet sitting open on the table, but it's how it is unless you choose the hide option. I suppose it can feel to a model like you're taunting her if you sit there with a big pile of tokens visible and don't tip. So, yeah better not to do that.

I also like to get a feel for a new (to me) room before I begin interacting, so I may not say anything or tip for a while to start out. I do generally feel like I should tip something if I've been there a good while though. Obviously this is not required on MFC, but I like to.

 

[Anonymous]

Why in the bloody world do you/would you sit in a models room for at least 30 min, sometimes the whole time shes's logged on with hundreds or thousands of tokens in your account without tipping a SINGLE one?!?!?

I feel your frustration. If the guy with tons of tokens is in your room while waiting for his favorite model to log on, the least he could do is chat with you (and hide his tokens, if he wants to). As long as he doesn't say "I'm chillin' here, waiting for _____ to log on." :?

I know some members say they'll lurk for several minutes to "get a feel for the model and how she runs her room," but I'd think if you're gonna do that and be completely silent, you might as well watch in guest mode. If I'm in a room under my premium account, it's because I intend to chat (and tip, if I can). If I don't feel like talking at all, I won't bother logging in...I'll just be in guest mode instead.

When a person comes into your home and makes eye contact with you, most likely that person will say hi, and they'll probably introduce themselves. My granddad used to always say that if you bring your friend or boyfriend into his house, that person needs to make himself known (say hi and introduce himself). You wouldn't enter a person's home and just lean against their wall, remaining silent the whole time.....unless you just have poor manners.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

while I understand that there's a business model to mfc etc.....


I do think it's rude to sit silently, with your 1000s of tokens visable, for over 30 minutes.

The reason?

Honestly, it makes ME feel like crap when I can SEE your tokens, and see that you're not willing to give them to me, and you're in the room. If you're silent I start to HOPE that you've wandered away from the computer... but part of me is wondering "WHAT AM I DOING WRONG????"

No you're not obligated to tip. But If I watch a street performer for 30 minutes, I will leave a tip.
If i watch for 2 mins then wander off.. maybe not.

It might be the way of MFC, but I still think its rude.


Consider hiding your tokens if you're gonna wait a while to tip. To save our sanity

 

[Jupiter551]

It's not about obligation, but I still think 30 minutes is too long to sit there without contributing *something* if you have tokens and aren't deliberately trying to be a dick.

It's not obligation, but it is a dick move. If she's not worth your tokens (you think) maybe you should move on and let her stop feeling awkward about it.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Yes but if you're doing that, watching a girl when her countdown isn't moving and have loads of tokens, you should hide them. It's not fair to have loads of tokens showing, sat there watching when she does have videos, privates etc on offer.

No members aren't entitled to tip a girl they're watching, although really I think if you have 1000tokens+ on you dropping 10/20 tokens wouldn't really kill you that much, and personally I agree, sure when people actually don't have the money to buy tokens, but when they've already bought them and they're just sitting there is really annoys me when they won't tip anything.

Saying that I see guys coming into my room who clearly are strong against camgirls because they'll have 900 tokens showing, most of the time if someone has that showing it means they want privates, or vids etc.
I have one guy who's always in my room, has tipped like twice before and very small amounts, but he always has tokens showing, but I can see he spends a little bit at a time, that's why he has loads of tokens, because he tips f all. Personally I think he should hide them. Quit waving your money around if you're not intending on spending it.
It's close to putting a steak in front of a dog yet not giving it to them.

There was a guy who came into my room recently with almost 50k I knew he wouldn't tip, but it made me wonder why he had them showing, if he were saving up for his favourite model surely he'd let it be a surprise... it just leads me to believe he wants extra free attention off camgirls by waving a big carrot in front of them.

 

[Jessi J]

Last night, I had just under 200 tokens left for a show. 32 HD video downloads are only 150 tokens. I had a regular in my room and one other guy with more tokens than I had. The other guy had been in there for about 20-30 minutes. I knew I had like 700 tokens, my reg admitted he had just over 1,000 and the other guy was above him. I asked the other guy if he was listening and if he were going to tip the smallest number on the board (it was 1) not only did he not say anything but 10 minutes later he left, not even a single token, not an acknowledgement.

If you come in my room every single day, for literally hours everyday, never say hi, have more than 1 token (logic helps me determine that), then I will call you out and later I will ban.

I see the same people in 5-10 people's room at one time (going next from the top ranked room) and their names are simultaneously in each of these rooms. They don't talk, they don't tip, they just wait.

At bare minimum I expect these people to say hello and ask how I am doing, but if they have more tokens than I do and can never kick in 5 tokens, but are on 10 model's high tip list and are still joining them, I am going to get pretty angry.

 

[mynameisbob84]

But tipping every few minutes just for being in the room and "appreciating" whatever chat is going on? What happens when you then run out of funds and they want to try and get a show going? Or they set a target? Are you now, despite tipping due to the chatter, forced to leave because you've become a show freeloader? Does it now appear you don't appreciate the model - because you tipped for talk but aren't tipping for a show? Or are you forced to either spend yet more money, or log off?

I do this!
If I've been in a room tipping periodically and then run out of tokens, I tend to feel justified in staying for a public show (if there is one) as anything I've tipped that night has likely come off the goal/countdown for that show anyway. I don't tend to join group shows. Really, I'm not all that fussed about the shows these days. I guess I'm more interested in the social aspect of MFC than I am the naked wanky part; so when I tip, it's for the model's company rather than their tits or whatever.
And the models I tend to visit regularly are all pretty smart cookies. Certainly smart enough to realise that if a member tips during free chat but doesn't tip to go in a group show or then can't contribute to a countdown because they've already given that model their last tokens, it doesn't mean they don't "appreciate" that model.

 

[TacoBelle]

Tips are gifts, not entitlements.

^^^^ This. Exactly this.

I don't want to be the odd man (or camgirl) out, but it seems that I am. I look at tips as exactly that... TIPS. The same as a waitress would get A) IF she does her job well and B) dependent on how much the customer can afford. While I don't agree with freeloaders just lurking and enjoying a free show while other guys pay the countdown, I also don't agree with being required to tip for the hell of it BECAUSE YOU CAN. If the guys want to, then that's perfectly fine. It's like a just-because present. Although it's not expected, it's definitely appreciated. But quite a few guys (regulars, especially) like to save their tokies for your next countdown or to save them for a LARGE tip all at once. I've had so many guys come in for a time or two, showing thousands of tokies, and NEVER SAY A WORD. Then they'll come in a little later, and tip a couple thousand just because I never asked them to tip.

Someone in this thread earlier said that he likes to get a feel for whether he likes you as a person first. I feel the same way. Sometimes a model can seem super sweet, then an hour later, she'll be screaming at all the guys because they're not tipping her WHILE SHE'S JUST SITTING THERE EATING RAMEN NOODLES. I don't want to tip someone like that. So I'll know to never go back in her room, and I'll save my tokies for a more friendly model.

Anyway, I feel like I've rambled enough. I just want to reiterate by saying that Just-Because tips are always a pleasant surprise but should NEVER be REQUIRED. :twocents-02cents:

 

[ComicOzzie]

Reason #1,001 why I hide my tokens.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

I am more bothered by the basics whose names show up in my room and stay silently often enough that I recognize them. At least if a member has tokens, I know he tips somebody on the site even if it's not me on that particular day.

Exactly. Somebody who has thousands of tokens has spent hundreds of $ on MFC, it seem extraordinarily unfair to direct anger at the few are spending heavily while ignoring the many who are contributing nothing. The street performer analogy is a good one and if I watch for one song/act I sometimes won't tip. However if I am stopping and spending more than a 10 minute I will tip a couple of bucks,and if I watch for an extended period of time like 30 minutes, $5. From what I observe the norm both in and out of the US is for vast majority of people to tip a street performer something if they actually stop to enjoy a performance. A far cry from MFC where 90% are freeloading. Now 30 minutes watching without tipping I do think is excessive.

I figure the default setting for MFC is to show tokens, which seems to me is a courtesy and valuable information to models. So when a member ask for a particular request, which isn't something you normally do, you can tell the guy with 100 tokens NO or not for 100 tokens, and the guy with 2,000 tokens, yes but I need 500 tokens and private. So asking members to hide tokens deprives other models of this information. Now I understand there are good reasons to hide tokens, but please hide your tokens because it pisses me off that you aren't tipping me doesn't seem like a great reason.

I also support models banning premium who watch their shows and don't tip, but i think you should hand out some of the banning love to the basic also.

 

[HarmlessSquirrel]

Someone in this thread earlier said that he likes to get a feel for whether he likes you as a person first. I feel the same way. Sometimes a model can seem super sweet, then an hour later, she'll be screaming at all the guys because they're not tipping her WHILE SHE'S JUST SITTING THERE EATING RAMEN NOODLES. I don't want to tip someone like that. So I'll know to never go back in her room, and I'll save my tokies for a more friendly model.

On the other hand, a model who's willing to hang around on cam while eating ramen noodles and is still super sweet when she does is exactly the kind of model I like to tip "just because." Screaming bad, hanging out good. Yeah, just hanging out is bad for cam score, which is another reason it's a nice time to tip since some of us are there more for the hanging out anyway. But yes, it's a "just because you're cool tip," not an "I feel like I have to" tip.

I may be a little off topic. Oh dear.

 

[LadyLuna]

When I first found out I could see the member's token counts, I would click down the list just to see.

Then I noticed something. Members having no tokens showing made me sad cause I knew I probably wouldn't get any tips. Members having tokens showing but not tipping made me sad, cause I felt like I was worthless to them. Know what I did? I stopped looking. And just like that, the only time I cared about whether a member had any tokens at all was when he was bragging about them or insinuating that I might possibly get them if I do that one special thing but he won't tell me what it is.

That last person annoys me more than the silent lurkers with tokens, because THEY are purposely dangling their tokens in my face. "If you please me, I will give you ___". BULLSHIT.

It's like this- you have a pair of very special glasses. You put the glasses on, and you can see what the men have or don't have in their pockets. But if you leave them off, you never know. You choose to wear them.

Members who leave their tokens showing aren't asking you to look at their tokens. They aren't leaving their tokens on the table. They just happen to not have that tinfoil that hides their money from your special glasses. But it's up to you to put those glasses on, or leave them off. If seeing members with or without tokens bothers you, take the glasses off. Don't look unless the member gives you a good reason to. Problem solved!

TL;DR
-you choose to look at the token count, it's not automatically showing. If it bothers you, stop looking.

 

[Jupiter551]

If you have a lot of tokens, and have been a member for more than a day, you know you can hide your tokens yet you choose not to. That, combined with not tipping is being a dick and probably enjoying a power trip of models paying attention without any intention of tipping them.

Btw I've been in Jo's room several times and she's not expecting tips for eating ramen noodles or whatever, she's dancing around, teasing, often in a thong...if you're watching for 30 minutes the least you could do is toss a small tip her way.

 

[Nordling]

When I first found out I could see the member's token counts, I would click down the list just to see.

Then I noticed something. Members having no tokens showing made me sad cause I knew I probably wouldn't get any tips. Members having tokens showing but not tipping made me sad, cause I felt like I was worthless to them. Know what I did? I stopped looking. And just like that, the only time I cared about whether a member had any tokens at all was when he was bragging about them or insinuating that I might possibly get them if I do that one special thing but he won't tell me what it is.

That last person annoys me more than the silent lurkers with tokens, because THEY are purposely dangling their tokens in my face. "If you please me, I will give you ___". BULLSHIT.

It's like this- you have a pair of very special glasses. You put the glasses on, and you can see what the men have or don't have in their pockets. But if you leave them off, you never know. You choose to wear them.

Members who leave their tokens showing aren't asking you to look at their tokens. They aren't leaving their tokens on the table. They just happen to not have that tinfoil that hides their money from your special glasses. But it's up to you to put those glasses on, or leave them off. If seeing members with or without tokens bothers you, take the glasses off. Don't look unless the member gives you a good reason to. Problem solved!

TL;DR
-you choose to look at the token count, it's not automatically showing. If it bothers you, stop looking.

When I first joined MFC, I didn't even know that my tokens and "points" showed, and since showing is the default, I didn't change it...UNTIL. I went into a model's room who was one of my first models on MFC a week earlier. She went into a bizarre rage about my spending habits and what a "fucking idiot" I was for showing my tokens...on and on. lol So...yeah, I don't enjoy being yelled at, justly or not, so I hid everything.

 

[wjr3]

I know some members say they'll lurk for several minutes to "get a feel for the model and how she runs her room," but I'd think if you're gonna do that and be completely silent, you might as well watch in guest mode. If I'm in a room under my premium account, it's because I intend to chat (and tip, if I can). If I don't feel like talking at all, I won't bother logging in...I'll just be in guest mode instead.

This is exactly why I've used guest mode with models who I haven't seen before. I'm into the "person behind the cam" so it takes ME a while to get comfortable with someone new. I've even told models afterward that I came into their room as my premium self, started to chat right away, and tipped soon after arriving, all because I already liked them from my guest viewing.

I can understand if that behavior seems rude to some. But it's what makes me most comfortable and pretty much guarantees that I'll be a regular in that room from that point forward. And the decision about where to spend my tokens has been made as well.

 

[Kradek]

This is exactly why I've used guest mode with models who I haven't seen before.

Or watch from a lounge. it's one of the things they're good for.

 

[JickyJuly]

Tips are gifts, not entitlements.

^^^^ This. Exactly this.

I don't want to be the odd man (or camgirl) out, but it seems that I am. I look at tips as exactly that... TIPS. The same as a waitress would get A) IF she does her job well and B) dependent on how much the customer can afford.

I disagree with the idea that a waitress' tip should be dependent on what a customer can afford or that it's a gift. If you're taking up space at a waitress' table, it's really unfair not to tip accordingly. If she only gets a few tables at a time, your tip is really necessary to her survival. She's not going to be hit by a bunch of other tippers, and she doesn't have a ban button. If someone can't afford food and a standard sized tip at a restaurant, they should stay home or hit the drive thru. At least if someone quietly looms in our room, they're not displacing other tippers or having us run back and forth to refill drinks in the hopes of getting something only to be disappointed later.

 

[Jupiter551]

At least if someone quietly looms in our room, they're not displacing other tippers or having us run back and forth to refill drinks in the hopes of getting something only to be disappointed later.

I suspect they kind of do tho for some girls, psychologically, the guys that show large token amounts.

 

[JickyJuly]

At least if someone quietly looms in our room, they're not displacing other tippers or having us run back and forth to refill drinks in the hopes of getting something only to be disappointed later.

I suspect they kind of do tho for some girls, psychologically, the guys that show large token amounts.

I guess in the scenario, my natural slothfulness and pessimism pay off. :lol:

 

[HarmlessSquirrel]

I am more bothered by the basics whose names show up in my room and stay silently often enough that I recognize them. At least if a member has tokens, I know he tips somebody on the site even if it's not me on that particular day.

Exactly. Somebody who has thousands of tokens has spent hundreds of $ on MFC, it seem extraordinarily unfair to direct anger at the few are spending heavily while ignoring the many who are contributing nothing. The street performer analogy is a good one and if I watch for one song/act I sometimes won't tip. However if I am stopping and spending more than a 10 minute I will tip a couple of bucks,and if I watch for an extended period of time like 30 minutes, $5. From what I observe the norm both in and out of the US is for vast majority of people to tip a street performer something if they actually stop to enjoy a performance. A far cry from MFC where 90% are freeloading. Now 30 minutes watching without tipping I do think is excessive.

I figure the default setting for MFC is to show tokens, which seems to me is a courtesy and valuable information to models. So when a member ask for a particular request, which isn't something you normally do, you can tell the guy with 100 tokens NO or not for 100 tokens, and the guy with 2,000 tokens, yes but I need 500 tokens and private. So asking members to hide tokens deprives other models of this information. Now I understand there are good reasons to hide tokens, but please hide your tokens because it pisses me off that you aren't tipping me doesn't seem like a great reason.

I also support models banning premium who watch their shows and don't tip, but i think you should hand out some of the banning love to the basic also.

I agree that someone who buys tokens is better for models in general than someone who buys none. Still, it's human nature that if a member is sitting in a room for a long time and the model can see a lot of tokens (it's also human nature to look, although LadyLuna is right that it might be less frustrating if not to look), she's going to be disappointed if she isn't given some. In my opinion, it's better to avoid that situation since it's easy enough to do so.

I don't think the default setting is to show tokens because it's courteous. If there's a reason at all, it's probably that management thinks it might be better for business. It's pretty easy to toggle your hidden/not hidden token status if you need to show that you have enough. I guess if you make frequent requests that require a lot of tokens from models who don't know you then it might be slightly annoying, otherwise I'd rather keep mine hidden and unhide them the time I make such a request (never have yet). The models who know me won't care, and I'd rather have my first interactions with new models be based on something other than how many tokens I have.

Banning premiums solely for not tipping doesn't make sense to me unless you're going to ban every single basic as well. That said, models can ban anyone they want to. Any premium is someone who spent at least 20 bucks for tokens at least once. Basics never have. Now, if the premiums are making pests of themselves as well, that's another story, but then that's not just for not tipping.

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

When I first joined MFC, I didn't even know that my tokens and "points" showed, and since showing is the default, I didn't change it...UNTIL. I went into a model's room who was one of my first models on MFC a week earlier. She went into a bizarre rage about my spending habits and what a "fucking idiot" I was for showing my tokens...on and on. lol So...yeah, I don't enjoy being yelled at, justly or not, so I hid everything.

I think I went a month before knowing about token hiding, reward points etc. You click on account settings and there is like 20 options. Now I read manuals and such, but I am on MFC to talk and watch naked girls, learning about profiles, privacy settings, and font colors is way done the list.

 

[Kickaz]

I agree with zoomer about tips being gifts and not entitlements. I don't get offended by a guy who has lots of tokens and doesn't decide to spend them on me. Of course I sure would like to get tipped but at the end of the day I want people to feel that I deserved that tip for whatever reason.

If my room is slow however I would hope someone that has been there for 30 mins plus would initiate/ follow my conversation. They are not obligated to do so but I see it as dropping by someones house and refusing to say hi. It's just a bit rude. And conversation is FREEE!!!

I am on MFC mostly about the social aspect of it. I actually enjoy talking to my guys/and girls but I do realize we are there to make money and cam score going down is most likely going to negatively affect my future earnings.
I do remind the room that that's a fact of mfc but I would never call out a random guy that has tokens to help me fill the gaps. He worked hard for his money and I have to work for mine too.
If it's too slow I will go offline, sure a bit disappointed but never mad at my room.

 

[HarmlessSquirrel]

I know some members say they'll lurk for several minutes to "get a feel for the model and how she runs her room," but I'd think if you're gonna do that and be completely silent, you might as well watch in guest mode. If I'm in a room under my premium account, it's because I intend to chat (and tip, if I can). If I don't feel like talking at all, I won't bother logging in...I'll just be in guest mode instead.

This is exactly why I've used guest mode with models who I haven't seen before. I'm into the "person behind the cam" so it takes ME a while to get comfortable with someone new. I've even told models afterward that I came into their room as my premium self, started to chat right away, and tipped soon after arriving, all because I already liked them from my guest viewing.

I can understand if that behavior seems rude to some. But it's what makes me most comfortable and pretty much guarantees that I'll be a regular in that room from that point forward. And the decision about where to spend my tokens has been made as well.

Yeah, I've done this a few times too. If I know I just want to lurk and check out a specific new (to me) room for awhile, I'll do that. Sometimes though, I'll be logged onto the site with none of my faves online and just decide to try a room on the spur of the moment. In that case, I'm there on my premium account. If I decide to stay for a significant amount of time, most likely I'll tip something even if I'm not coming back. If I'm just there for a few minutes, maybe not. If I get yelled at for a few minutes, it's not a room for me anyway.