Why is Nudity/Sex so OUTRAGEOUS?

[YelloMit]

I've always wanted to know this. It seems to be like this almost everywhere. Social media, television, movies, video games, etc, etc. There's obviously exceptions with certain things, but the vast majority of the public seem to never want to talk about nudity or sex, or anything similar to that.

In every day life, violence, where people and getting their heads blown off by guns, stabbed in the gut with their organs coming out, racist, homophobic, and sexist commentary, and LOTS of swearing, seem to be fine. But seeing a boob? HOLY SHIT, CALL THE POLICE. Maybe I'm not wording it properly, but I hope you know what I mean.

I just don't get it. I really don't.

 

[Guy]

I've always wanted to know this. It seems to be like this almost everywhere. Social media, television, movies, video games, etc, etc. There's obviously exceptions with certain things, but the vast majority of the public seem to never want to talk about nudity or sex, or anything similar to that.

In every day life, violence, where people and getting their heads blown off by guns, stabbed in the gut with their organs coming out, racist, homophobic, and sexist commentary, and LOTS of swearing, seem to be fine. But seeing a boob? HOLY SHIT, CALL THE POLICE. Maybe I'm not wording it properly, but I hope you know what I mean.

I just don't get it. I really don't.

Do they show nudity on TV in Australia?

 

[YelloMit]

Do they show nudity on TV in Australia?

Surprisingly, not much. But that's not even the point. It is worldwide in my opinion.

 

[dilligaf0]

I believe it has it's roots in religion. "Good Christians" will condemn nudity or even an excessive amount of bare skin (in public or on media), but sit in a church ans sing hymns about violence, "Onward Christian Soldiers" comes to mind, a not think twice about it.
I've never understood the ability to "be a religious" person but condone the killing of other people.
So much for the whole "Thou shalt not kill" principle.

 

[MFCGod]

I wonder if we were all more accepting and open about sex, it would be less arousing..

Taboo is sexy, I don't think anyone can deny that, If it's naughty, seems bad, it's hot

If nothing was naughty or seemed bad, would it take the thrill out of sex in a lot of ways?

Maybe a prudish society makes for a funner bedroom

Maybe in a prudish society, less is more

 

[Guy]

I wonder if we were all more accepting and open about sex, it would be less arousing..

Taboo is sexy, I don't think anyone can deny that, If it's naughty, seems bad, it's hot

If nothing was naughty or seemed bad, would it take the thrill out of sex in a lot of ways?

Maybe a prudish society makes for a funner bedroom

Maybe in a prudish society, less is more

Do they show nudity on TV in the UK?

 

[MFCGod]

Do they show nudity on tv in the UK?

I don't watch tv really, but I believe after 9pm you can start showing breasts and flaccid penis etc in shows

You can also see nudity on daytime tv if it's medical in nature, like showing a breast examination checking for cancer

Not sure about showing genitalia, but again I think if it's medical in nature its probably been on daytime tv

 

[Ann_Sulu]

• Ignorance
• Insecurity
• Religion

In every day life, violence, where people and getting their heads blown off by guns, stabbed in the gut with their organs coming out, racist, homophobic, and sexist commentary, and LOTS of swearing, seem to be fine. But seeing a boob? HOLY SHIT, CALL THE POLICE. Maybe I'm not wording it properly, but I hope you know what I mean.

I'd say in that instance it has to do with a few factors. People tend to be more quick to negative emotions than positive ones. Another thing is "survival instinct". This gets people all adrenaline-rushed and excited, because even though many things can't/won't happen...humans will still happily plan out how to zombie-proof their home. Don't get me wrong I like to watch horror, but get tired of constant boring murder porn a lot quicker than a nude scene. For anyone with paranoia issues, these types of movies, news shows whatever...just remind them why they're right.

As for the inappropriate commentary...these folks are the most insecure. The others just might've gotten bored with reality and made up a paranoia to fill their time, but these people tend to be the loudest and most obnoxious about their issues.

Generally these tend to lack empathy or it'll be numbed (often many other emotions too). This causes them to enjoy making folks exhibit strong emotion for entertainment...eg internet trolls. As I said before, the easiest emotions to tap are negative ones, so what's easier than being offensive?

All in all be it religion or broken in general, most folks stagnate in their ways rather than get help (sad thing is most often they don't think they need it).

Truth is if there was more nudity, sex ed, and ability for people to act more mature and sane...people would more likely get over a large part of their insecurities over time.

 

[AlyssaMuze]

I wonder if we were all more accepting and open about sex, it would be less arousing..

Taboo is sexy, I don't think anyone can deny that, If it's naughty, seems bad, it's hot

If nothing was naughty or seemed bad, would it take the thrill out of sex in a lot of ways?

Maybe a prudish society makes for a funner bedroom

Maybe in a prudish society, less is more

What a good point! Maybe this is why camming can be lucrative for many models.

No complaints here

 

[Sevrin]

What a good point! Maybe this is why camming can be lucrative for many models.

No complaints here

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[YelloMit]

I wonder if we were all more accepting and open about sex, it would be less arousing..

Taboo is sexy, I don't think anyone can deny that, If it's naughty, seems bad, it's hot

If nothing was naughty or seemed bad, would it take the thrill out of sex in a lot of ways?

Maybe a prudish society makes for a funner bedroom

Maybe in a prudish society, less is more

You've definitely stumbled on to something there. Very interesting.

It wouldn't really surprise me.

 

[yummybrownfox]

I believe it has it's roots in religion. "Good Christians" will condemn nudity or even an excessive amount of bare skin (in public or on media), but sit in a church ans sing hymns about violence, "Onward Christian Soldiers" comes to mind, a not think twice about it.
I've never understood the ability to "be a religious" person but condone the killing of other people.
So much for the whole "Thou shalt not kill" principle.

Sort of off topic, but Mom told me that when she was pregnant with me (She was unmarried at the time), she had to step down from her role as the church piano player, because it was inappropriate for the church pianist to be an unwed woman with a pregnant belly. That's really crazy to me.

 

[EspiKvlt]

Earlier I typed "Christianity" in response to this thread, but I didn't post it because I thought about it, and I don't think that's why (or at least not the sole reason - it's definitely a huge factor in western society). But on a more global scale, if that were the case, why are so many Asian countries as against it as we are? I don't know.

 

[dilligaf0]

Earlier I typed "Christianity" in response to this thread, but I didn't post it because I thought about it, and I don't think that's why (or at least not the sole reason - it's definitely a huge factor in western society). But on a more global scale, if that were the case, why are so many Asian countries as against it as we are? I don't know.

I believe Muslims are very similar to Christians (hijabs, burquas, etc.). I'm unsure of the Jewish or Buddist (as well as the others) attitudes.
Maybe I should have used the more general term "religion".

 

[EspiKvlt]

I believe Muslims are very similar to Christians (hijabs, burquas, etc.). I'm unsure of the Jewish or Buddist (as well as the others) attitudes.
Maybe I should have used the more general term "religion".

I'm a Buddhist. Not only do we not care, but nudity is often a way to spiritually express one's self. The more ya know.

ETA: Probably shouldn't say "we." Sect and country have an impact on this. But as a Zen Buddhist living in America, this has been my experience.

 

[Ann_Sulu]

I wonder if we were all more accepting and open about sex, it would be less arousing..

Taboo is sexy, I don't think anyone can deny that, If it's naughty, seems bad, it's hot

If nothing was naughty or seemed bad, would it take the thrill out of sex in a lot of ways?

Maybe a prudish society makes for a funner bedroom

Maybe in a prudish society, less is more

Maybe I'm the super weird one in the bunch...

I know for a lot of people "being naughty" is super sexy, but due to growing up in an ultra-conservative environment where everything bad that happened was followed with a three hour lecture...the thought of what I'm doing being "bad" turns me off completely.

For me it's like degradation and humiliation is just fun shit talking and messing with someone who wants it, me being an exhibitionist on cam isn't naughty to me because people are going to the site rather than me flashing people at random on the street (my exhibitionist "public" videos are even done to where no one would possibly happen upon me). Taboo role plays I can do knowing it's just a role play. Perhaps I'd think of it in other ways if I were brought up differently, (and no judgement here if that's folk's thing) but putting it out there it isn't everyone's.

I agree with you to a large extent though.

Also would like to say I should've written the word jealousy as well. I feel if more couples were open, it would get rid of many jealousy issues. It holds hands with the insecurity I mentioned. I've had sooo many friends who've said they felt like their partner wasn't telling them what they really wanted. Most likely their felt they'd feel judged, but it left them feeling like they must not be physically or sexually what their partner wanted. Often they'd feel like their partner may be seeing someone else due to this.

Basically lack of communication about sex can ruin the relationship. It definitely wouldn't help if a one thought their partner was turned on by a celebrity naked or some kink shown and the partner tried to hide it with something like "You're crazy" and refused to talk about it. I've had this happen to me before as well, and yeah it hurts. I never thought the person was cheating on me, but felt terrible that they seemed to think they had to hide a part of themselves from me. I get the whole feeling embarrassment over getting caught or something, but a little secret can go a long way to ruin a relationship.

 

[dilligaf0]

I'm a Buddhist. Not only do we not care, but nudity is often a way to spiritually express one's self. The more ya know.

ETA: Probably shouldn't say "we." Sect and country have an impact on this. But as a Zen Buddhist living in America, this has been my experience.

Thar's why I stated I didn't know how other religions around the world feel about it.
It seems the more likely a country / religion is to label and judge people, the more likely there is for a strong reaction.

 

[SMuser69]

I've always wanted to know this. It seems to be like this almost everywhere. Social media, television, movies, video games, etc, etc. There's obviously exceptions with certain things, but the vast majority of the public seem to never want to talk about nudity or sex, or anything similar to that.

In every day life, violence, where people and getting their heads blown off by guns, stabbed in the gut with their organs coming out, racist, homophobic, and sexist commentary, and LOTS of swearing, seem to be fine. But seeing a boob? HOLY SHIT, CALL THE POLICE. Maybe I'm not wording it properly, but I hope you know what I mean.

I just don't get it. I really don't.

To answer this question you have to remember that guns are protected by the constitution but sex is not. This is what creates the leeway in censorship in the US.

Religion and the state promote, "sex for a purpose" because it benefits them economically and provides better population control and that's why they try to censor the concept of, "sex as a tool". "Sex as a tool" is a very double edged sword and we who mostly live in 1st world countries with law enforcement don't really worry about the much darker side where this concept leads.

 

[DonaDiabla]

My culture has a different prerogative when it comes to nudity and sex. As a child, sex was taught as natural thing like going to the bathroom or eating. Everyone accepted sex as a biological tool to make children or for pleasure. However, we did have strict guidelines and relationship rules which address sex.For example, all men must be fully clothed at times in the house unless everyone was swimming or going to have sex. However, first periods are celebrated with big feasts in my family. Nudity was viewed as nature but there must be rules governing it. Such as no one being nude in front of family, friends, nor animals. Everything outside of "sanctioned"marriage was seen as equal to a one night stand. Sanctioned marriages are marriages arranged by yourself or parents to someone with the same value system as us.So, my ancestors created over 15 to 27 different relationship types to cover sexual,emotional, and other relationships including the fake ones. My ancestors also have a whole list of rules when it comes to sex work including what to wear during sex work. Frankly, they were big fans of super flashy yet see-though clothes. The most popular sexual relationship amongst my family members is named "Something to do" ( We use the Depeche Mode song as code for talking about this relationship type.)
Children from these relationships outside of marriage or "sanctioned"marriage would have the option of changing their names, birth certificates, languages, customs and parents' identities to suit them.( Special note: I have a different last name than both my parents and speak more languages than they do. This was by design.)Also, you are allowed to break up with your parents if they defiled our ancestors' sexual and relationship ways. In addition, sex was viewed as morally and emotionally meaningless outside of marriage. Sex only gains value in marriage. However, it only holds true value in "sanctioned"marriage because that it's purity So, we could become sex workers or nuns and get the same respect from our family.

 

[JickyJuly]

Ultimately, to weaken women. If we celebrated, openly, how functionally beautiful the female body is women would understand from a young age that we are at least as powerful as men. Our bodies do amazing things. I think we moved from shame to sexualization because sex makes more money. Making women feel bad about their bodies and making men feel like they can only covet the "perfect" body type gets people spending a lot of money. But, maybe it will also just be step away from shame? Like evolving toward acceptance?

 

[MFCGod]

I'm a little confused

In another thread I'm told using female instead of women is offensive

In this thread I'm told nudity/sex being taboo is to ultimately to weaken women

If nudity and sex weren't taboo and I could walk around nude inviting people to engage in intercourse, would that be freeing or in fact terrifying for women?

It seems totally at odds

On one hand "we should be free to express ourselves, it's empowering!" on the other hand "don't you dare offend anyone!"

Maybe I've got totally the wrong end of the stick though.

 

[Mikey_P]

It sounds like you have more of a 1970s perspective because I see our society as one that went from hiding sexualty and clutching pearls over the most minor sex related things to going all the way left where our society is now overly sexualized in the most ridiculous ways.

 

[Ann_Sulu]

I'm a little confused

In another thread I'm told using female instead of women is offensive

In this thread I'm told nudity/sex being taboo is to ultimately to weaken women

If nudity and sex weren't taboo and I could walk around nude inviting people to engage in intercourse, would that be freeing or in fact terrifying for women?

It seems totally at odds

On one hand "we should be free to express ourselves, it's empowering!" on the other hand "don't you dare offend anyone!"

Maybe I've got totally the wrong end of the stick though.

I dunno about all that. Female and male are the terms used for those genders. I've seen people offended by it, but don't exactly get why long as it is meant for only that. I suppose if I were referred to as "Hey, female over there!" I'd be wondering about the weird hair that crawled up that person's ass.

I think I meant more to say what Jicky said, but combined it with the the human condition of jealousy. I mean jealousy can be related to shame anyways, but sure not quite what I meant. Anyway point is shame leads to people feeling bad also leading to them not being able many things they regularly would in life including sex (aside from humiliation fetish of course).

There's a big difference between cultural do' and don't's about what's to be discussed with or shown in public, and shaming.

 

[AwesomeKate]

Religion took a strong hold of our sexuality because we have a natural inclination to have sex and have a lot of it. Sex usually, until quite recently, resulted in pregnancy. How many babies are born and the condition of their birth matters a lot in how well a society will function. I think homosexuality was demonized by the church in order to make sure the members of society were breeding. Sex outside of marriage was demonized because they wanted children raised by two invested parents. Violence doesn't have to be made taboo because only a small percentage of humans are interested in murdering people. Almost everyone is interested in having sex.

 

[JickyJuly]

In another thread I'm told using female instead of women is offensive

It's called context and language. And can we stop throwing around the buzzword "offensive". Saying something is rude isn't the same as being offended. Woman is a noun reserved for humans. Female can be used for animals and plants. So, choosing to use female as a noun when you can use woman is a downgrade. That's the language part. Usually, female is used as slang when put toward a woman. I've never heard anyone say anything nice after it. That's the context part. Why derail this thread with your lack of understanding when you have all of this going on in another thread already?

 

[MFCGod]

It's called context and language. And can we stop throwing around the buzzword "offensive". Saying something is rude isn't the same as being offended.

It was said to be dehumanizing, I would consider dehumanization to be offensive rather than just rude

I think I raised an interesting point, which is when does one persons freedom become someone else's oppression

If we were all more sexually open, wouldn't that lead to more people feeling sexual harassed

^ So I'm not sure how nudity/sex being considered as outrageous is to weaken women, I would have thought it helps in a lot of ways

Not trying to attack you July, sorry if it appears that way, I'm just confused by seemingly conflicting ideas, but again I may have the wrong end of the stick.

 

[JickyJuly]

Men are affected by the hyper-sexualization of bodies as well. I was just pointing out the main facet through my eyes. Many of the purposes of the female body are taken away by just sexualizing them (ew menstruation, ew breastfeeding, ew birth, ew saggy tits). Sexualizing the body of a man usually paints him as stronger maybe even dangerous. It's all very disingenuous. We could be happier society if we embraced the real beauty and strength of being human.

It was said to be dehumanizing, I would consider dehumanization to be offensive rather than just rude

Since I explained that female when used as a noun can be animal or plant, is choosing that word over woman not then dehumanizing? I never said that people shouldn't use it if they want. Just that it feels rude.

 

[SaffronBurke]

If nudity and sex weren't taboo and I could walk around nude inviting people to engage in intercourse, would that be freeing or in fact terrifying for women?

I would imagine that, in a world where sex/nudity is less taboo, we would also have a more clear understanding of consent, which is something that we as humans are currently very bad at talking about and teaching each other. Because sex is a taboo topic to discuss, we're also hesitant to discuss what consent looks like, because that's a "sex thing".

 

[Booty_4U]

I think I raised an interesting point, which is when does one persons freedom become someone else's oppression

If we were all more sexually open, wouldn't that lead to more people feeling sexual harassed

You can be "sexually open", without harassing anyone. You can express your feelings, without oppressing others (based on probably ignorant biases). It's about choices.

 

[heybarkeep]

It sounds like you have more of a 1970s perspective because I see our society as one that went from hiding sexualty and clutching pearls over the most minor sex related things to going all the way left where our society is now overly sexualized in the most ridiculous ways.

This is mostly where I'm at. I can't remember sex or nudity ever really being a taboo subject in my lifetime. Many prefer privacy but it was never taboo to talk about it. Nowadays we have boner pill commercials and everything is hyper sexual. Can't complain I guess, the old way sounds much worse. Well, I could do without the constant reminders that my dick will one day stop working properly but besides that, can't complain.