Why is MFC sponsoring Suicide Girls's burlesque tour?

[Guy]

http://blackheartburlesque.com

 

[JoleneBrody]

Why does any company sponsor any event? Advertising

 

[SMuser69]

Pornhub wanted to sponsor a League of Legends team. Marketing is about getting your name out through different avenues.

 

[heybarkeep]

 

[uncoveredmanhole]

Why does any company sponsor any event? Advertising

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[JickyJuly]

I'm surprised MFC would associate with them as well.

 

[CharlieCharma]

I'm surprised MFC would associate with them as well.

Is there something wrong with Suicide Girls? I'm genuinely curious why you're surprised since they're alternative nude models. I feel a little out of the loop.

 

[JoleneBrody]

Suicide girls has a long and shitty history, which up until somewhat recently included suing their contract models if they were found out to be camming or working with any other company. This doesn't seem to be their thing anymore, as I'm sure they realized camgirls might be there only chance of surviving, but it's hard to escape so many years of shitty garbage behavior especially for the models who are a bit older. Even back when I started camming though they were picky about it. Some SG were favored and left alone while other were sued.

They have a lot of other crappy business practices as well but yeah.

 

[Guy]

Suicide girls has a long and shitty history, which up until somewhat recently included suing their contract models if they were found out to be camming or working with any other company. This doesn't seem to be their thing anymore, as I'm sure they realized camgirls might be there only chance of surviving, but it's hard to escape so many years of shitty garbage behavior especially for the models who are a bit older. Even back when I started camming though they were picky about it. Some SG were favored and left alone while other were sued.

They have a lot of other crappy business practices as well but yeah.

Does MFC know about how SG rips off their models?

 

[Deleted member 35180]

Suicide girls has a long and shitty history, which up until somewhat recently included suing their contract models if they were found out to be camming or working with any other company. This doesn't seem to be their thing anymore, as I'm sure they realized camgirls might be there only chance of surviving, but it's hard to escape so many years of shitty garbage behavior especially for the models who are a bit older. Even back when I started camming though they were picky about it. Some SG were favored and left alone while other were sued.

They have a lot of other crappy business practices as well but yeah.

I had no idea!

Won't be going to their shows anymore

 

[JoleneBrody]

Does MFC know about how SG rips off their models?

I don't know, but it never was an MFC specific issue and it's no longer common practice. The big blowup with SG started in 2005 and trickled on for years from there so I assume a lot of models are way too young to know anything about it.

 

[Guy]

Is there something wrong with Suicide Girls? I'm genuinely curious why you're surprised since they're alternative nude models. I feel a little out of the loop.

@EspiKvlt had a bad experience with them.

 

[EspiKvlt]

While I did have a bad experience, I don't really see how it's related. Advertising is advertising, and I don't blame MFC for doing so.

 

[uncoveredmanhole]

Even back when I started camming though they were picky about it. Some SG were favored and left alone while other were sued.

I wouldn't be surprised if CB did the same thing.
if you've got a model with 500,000 followers bringing in a ton of your daily revenue, you're not about to ban her from the site for some little $50-on-the-side transgression of the site's terms.

 

[uncoveredmanhole]

@EspiKvlt had a bad experience with them.

eep, I was keen to watch that before asking if there's a statement released with the other side of the story, but then I saw it's 33 minutes long.
life's too short for drama that long.

 

[Dan N]

throwing some totally fictive presumptions here
- what if a "wale" from MFC is personally involved with blackheartburlesque.com
- what if MFC decides to buy the brand and full "service"
- what if MFC runs a side project with this service
- what if doesn't need more advertising but decides to start collaborations

Well, a lot of what ifs

 

[EspiKvlt]

eep, I was keen to watch that before asking if there's a statement released with the other side of the story, but then I saw it's 33 minutes long.
life's too short for drama that long.

They don't pay 98% of their models for their work and you're putting up free sets with nothing to show for it. That's the gist.

That video was intended for people who actually are considering modeling for SG. It's a "hey, here's why you might consider not doing it" video. Not a "drama" video.

 

[MFCGod]

Are they advertising with them because of the audience, or more so to try and get some SG models to become MFC models

 

[EspiKvlt]

Are they advertising with them because of the audience, or more so to try and get some SG models to become MFC models

Unless someone from either website says "this is why we're doing it," this thread seems like a pointless guessing game.

 

[JickyJuly]

Unless we're hopping in a time machine and traveling back to 2003, I would guess that SG would get more out of the deal than MFC.

 

[Bocefish]

It's too bad they were mismanaged and sort of self-destructed because the concept had a lot of promise, imho.

 

[Sevrin]

MFC has become much more aggressive in marketing itself recently. They're sponsoring a lot more events and spending more money on the ones they sponsor, like the way they hired Flo-Rida for AVN. This is just one more thing to sponsor, and there is certainly some crossover between the kind of people who would frequent an SG show and the ones who would spend on cam models.

 

[Guy]

And there is certainly some crossover between the kind of people who would frequent an SG show and the ones who would spend on cam models.

Whats the reason for that?

 

[EspiKvlt]

Whats the reason for that?

Cus people who like porn on one site like it on other sites, too.

 

[Sevrin]

Whats the reason for that?

To see a show, you have to pay. You're paying to see sexy girls. MFC likes people who are willing pay to see girls being sexy.

 

[uncoveredmanhole]

They don't pay 98% of their models for their work and you're putting up free sets with nothing to show for it. That's the gist.

That video was intended for people who actually are considering modeling for SG. It's a "hey, here's why you might consider not doing it" video. Not a "drama" video.

it was branded as a 'bad experience' vid, one which was 33 minutes long, which sounds a lot like drama (one person's grievances possibly unique only to them and irrelevant to everyone else, vented at length). good to know it's not that. but why on earth it's 33 minutes long if the gist fits in a paragraph, I don't know...but all the more reason to feel like I dodged a bullet there

'don't pay their models' meaning they breach their contracts, or the models choose to work for some reason other than profit (a common issue in the arts broadly)?

 

[EspiKvlt]

If you want to know more than the gist, watch the video.

 

[MiaFoxUK]

From what I've heard they treat their models better now, so I will be going to the london show

I applied a million years ago and was accepted but declined after reading the contract as it was too restrictive, even to where you used your name

 

[Guy]

I'm surprised MFC would associate with them as well.

Whats more surprising is that SG is letting MFC sponsor their shows. Prior to now, SG always avoided the adult industry like the plague.

 

[SMuser69]

Whats more surprising is that SG is letting MFC sponsor their shows. Prior to now, SG always avoided the adult industry like the plague.

They generally represented a women empowerment stance. Since models on camsites are independents I can see how they can fit within the brand ideals. I would be different if MFC was forcing it's own definition of what a model is or how they should look but it doesn't.