Why I Dont Agree With FREE!! Shows..And Groups shows

[Wendsor]

guests rule the room.
some girls ban premiums because they don't tip. yet guests can stay as long as they want.

 

[Anonymous]

guests rule the room.
some girls ban premiums because they don't tip. yet guests can stay as long as they want.

It seems like a lot of guests and basics like to play the "What all can we talk this model into doing for free?" game.

Guest or Basic: Can you stand up?
G or B: How's dat azz look?
G or B: Get naked bb.
G or B: You guys are dumb for tipping this girl. She got 200 tokens, and she ain't even naked yet!
G or B: Do a dance for us bb.
G or B: Cute dog. Let him lick your pussy.
G or B: Let's see you use a toy.
G or B: Love the way you suckin' that lollipop. Put it in your pussy.


LMAO...

 

[sweetiebatman]

They could always just block the guests, thereby ending there "reign" :lol:

 

[Evvie]

guests rule the room.
some girls ban premiums because they don't tip. yet guests can stay as long as they want.

Some models, like me, find guests to be hella hilarious.

And in fact, sometimes I'll have 30 premiums silently watching me who refuse to talk or do anything, so it's guests and basics that have to come keep the conversation going.

It's very common for premiums to simply not log in to their accounts until they are ready to tip. I had a funny guest talking to me for a long time last night, and after I blocked guests from chatting he logged in to his premium account and introduced himself. When I'm perving models I certainly do not log in to any of my accounts. It just isn't worth it imo. I suppose it sounds kind of mean of me, but I feel badly when I go in to lower-score rooms and models look excited when I show up. I also don't want models to try harder on my account, because I can rarely afford tokens.

 

[A_Friend]

And in fact, sometimes I'll have 30 premiums silently watching me who refuse to talk or do anything

God,I hate sleepers

Good topic when u get sleepers in room..example...2000 for cum show..Say hi or chat or tip or you will be kicked

2000 for cum show..sleepers will be kicked

Sleepers in rooms most likely have other rooms open,just waiting for free,try saying hi to them in the room,not pm,if no reply...Kick

 

[AliceDoe]

And in fact, sometimes I'll have 30 premiums silently watching me who refuse to talk or do anything

God,I hate sleepers

Good topic when u get sleepers in room..example...2000 for cum show..Say hi or chat or tip or you will be kicked

2000 for cum show..sleepers will be kicked

Sleepers in rooms most likely have other rooms open,just waiting for free,try saying hi to them in the room,not pm,if no reply...Kick

Dude, WTH??

I also think it's annoying with premiums that sit in my room for hours not saying anything, but banning them because of that is way rude!! Some guys might be shy about what they're doing, some might not want to interrupt the ongoing conversation and some might just not feel like talking! That's no reason to ban them from the room!

In fact, some of these guys might be watching quietly for a long time just to leave a big tip later because they've liked what they've seen. Or perhaps they don't have any tokens that night and thus don't want to take up any of the model's time, but will return another night when they do have tokens.

There are many reasons why someone would watch a room and not speak!

If I notice someone hanging around for too long, I'll PM them and say that it's nicer if they introduce themselves and contribute to the conversation.

 

[A_Friend]

Don't think,just because there in your room they are not in others at the same time.I have seen guys in all different rooms at the same time..it makes me laugh
So that's why I said don't PM them,type in room as if they are shy a simple hello would be easy,jeex! wake up to mfc free loaders
In lounge there was one guy saying that he had 6 rooms open at once,they all fu-king do it,so not to miss the show,yeah there are some good guys,regulars to your room that likes to get involved with the interaction..

 

[mynameisbob84]

But then you essentially eliminate the chances of a "freeloader" seeing your show and becoming inspired to tip, or even become a regular tipper. And all the model gets out of this is a reduced room count. Just doesn't seem worth the trade-off to me :twocents-02cents:

 

[GingerOwnsChris]

I, and others, have been saying this for a while now, and other cam sites actually do boot guests from the public chat after a certain number of minutes have passed, encouraging them to either upgrade or log in to their member account. I know that for me, 10 minutes is more than enough time to decide whether or not I like a model's room and whether or not I want to return.

I do not think it would be wise for MFC to start kicking guests out of public chat. This business model, known as hustling, and adopted by strip clubs, is diametrically opposed to the business model of free stuff, which is adopted by a lot of successful businesses, including Google, Facebook and MFC. It does not make sense to talk about which tactic is smarter, because what matters at the end of the day is whether it works well. Considering that MFC is a huge success, by no means should they switch from the "free stuff" business model, which works to hustling, which may work or not. Not messing with success is the name of the game at this point. And whatever helps MFC make money, helps models make money.

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Big tippers come and go for me. However the one that has stuck around for almost 2 years and is consitently dependable to support me, rescue me when im having a bad day and make the amazing token nights phenomenal was a 'sleeper' for a day.

He came in, said nothing (even when I said hi) tipped nothing.. and just watched. For hours. I let him be.. didnt think anything of it.

I woke up to 900tks in my offline tip box the next morning - at that time the biggest offline tip i'd ever recieved.
I went on a short vacation shortly after that. 900tks every morning.
He continues to this day to tip and participate in my room (sometimes quietly, sometimes actively) - he's tipped over 7000tks in one shot before.

If I had kicked him, while he watched me and made up his mind if I was gonna be his 'favourite' girl or not... I'd have lost over $15,000

 

[A_Friend]

Point taken...sorry to say how i feel...end of topic
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[Crazydidi]

That's why girls usually post on their profiles what they do and dont do in groups, we decide.

 

[Evvie]

Point taken...sorry to say how i feel...end of topic
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I think it might be your attitude more than your opinion. We aren't stupid, we know a lot of things that go on behind the scenes that most members aren't aware of. I don't know of a single model who is unaware that members can be in multiple rooms at once... we aren't all lost blind helpless waifs here.

I understand you're angry because you're tired of freeloaders, but that isn't your problem, it's ours.

wake up to mfc free loaders

I believe your stance seems to be, "models may be unaware that some members do not tip them," or, "models may be unaware of just how many people freeload." But we are not unaware. We all deal with it in our own ways.

God,I hate sleepers

Good topic when u get sleepers in room..example...2000 for cum show..Say hi or chat or tip or you will be kicked

2000 for cum show..sleepers will be kicked

Sleepers in rooms most likely have other rooms open,just waiting for free,try saying hi to them in the room,not pm,if no reply...Kick

I have heard stories from premiums where models demanded they talk or tip, or be banned from the room. Some members never return to the model's room after that. One of my highest, most consistent tippers told me a model singled him out and demanded money, and he left and never went back to her room.

For some tough, ballsy models, I could see it possibly working. But I think a lot of models are uncomfortable bringing up money. Some models don't even list a public countdown, and others would never say "give me money or get out" because that would just disillusion too many members.

I don't think there is anything wrong with your opinions, however I do not think most models are comfortable with the suggestions you provide to end freeloading. I can assure you that this is a big topic for us and we discuss it often. If anything I would invite you to not worry, as we are not defenseless or helpless in this situation.

I enjoy MFC the way it is, and I don't want price increases, or guests to be booted, and I don't feel comfortable telling members to participate or gtfo. I've never really had a problem with the MFC system at all.

 

[ComicOzzie]

And in fact, sometimes I'll have 30 premiums silently watching me who refuse to talk or do anything

God,I hate sleepers

Good topic when u get sleepers in room..example...2000 for cum show..Say hi or chat or tip or you will be kicked

2000 for cum show..sleepers will be kicked

Sleepers in rooms most likely have other rooms open,just waiting for free,try saying hi to them in the room,not pm,if no reply...Kick

Yeah, ban the 30 silent premiums. The only ones that can tip. That makes sense.

 

[JoleneBrody]

I gotta jump on this bandwagon and say some of the most awesome fellers I know were silent lurkers. One of my newest fellers was a name I new really well because he hung out and lurked for a super long time, like weeks maybe more.
He's not only a good tipper now but also a super fucking rad guy who makes my time online even more enjoyable than before.
If they aren't pestering you other than just being present whats the point? You only lose in that scenario.

 

[AmberCutie]

I'd rather have someone lurking silently than being an attention whore if they aren't going to tip. I encourage people to join in the conversation, but when all a person does is post dick/fucking emotes or say random extremely perverted comments they are more of a distraction than anything. So I'll save my banhammer for those distracting non-tippers instead of the silent non-tippers who are actually doing me a favor by adding to my room count and bringing me higher on the MPR list.

 

[Anonymous]

I do not think it would be wise for MFC to start kicking guests out of public chat.

Then you and I will have to agree to disagree. Giving guests unlimited access to public chat shows doesn't give them much incentive to upgrade. Just more reason to brag to each other about all of the free shows they get to watch (and record). We can debate about it 'til the cows come home...my opinion remains the same.

 

[Anonymous]

a simple hello would be easy

Since guests on MFC are fortunate enough to have unlimited public chat viewing access, I'm surprised that more people don't just watch models in guest mode, if they don't intend to talk to her that night. If being shy is REALLY the reason, wouldn't it make more sense to watch her all night as a guest instead?

I'm referring to the ones who will stay in a room for a very long time and never speak (even when the model says hi to them) or tip. I think it makes more sense to just be in there as a guest, and then if you decide "Hey, I really like this girl, and I want to talk to/tip her," log into your premium account to talk to her or tip, if you'd like.

Is it some sort of "I'm awesome for being a premium now, and I WANT others to see that I'm a premium" thing? Lol.

 

[SoTxBob]

Just some more fodder for the campfire.... :-D I have many stories of MFC.

If I use casino lingo, I know a handful of "whales" that are always on mfc. They are indeed a mixed bag. The one that tipped perhaps the largest, is indeed a lurker. He sits in the room and seldom if ever talks in chat beyond a "hi." Others will try to direct the flow of a room with huge tips, while most simply play the game like regular folks. You never know who your next mega tip will come from in this place.

I also know a few girls that have banned silent lurkers, but only after time and repeated attempts to elicit some/any sort of response from them. One girl had 3 guys sitting for about 3 months. never a word, never a tip. She always said hi to them in chat, verbally a few times per shift as well as typing. She had tried to pm them as well, only to see the "xxx accepting pm only from friends" message. She subsequently, after having a bad day and while in a shitty mood, banned all 3 of them for 60 days before she signed off. This was discussed in chat before it happened and put to a vote of participating members. After she signed out, I saw the 3 of them in L1000 bitchin and whining about being banned. The "how dare she" attitudes made me LMAO. Perhaps it wasn't needed but I felt compelled to pour salt on the wound. :evil: I told them all they had to do was type 2 simple letters, "hi" in chat and all could have been avoided... Was even more funny when a dozen of their cronies joined in on the "lmao" party and laughed at them with all of their silly banners. :lol:

shall I go on? Naaa, I'm done for now.
Carry on....

 

[Anonymous]

I saw the 3 of them in L1000 bitchin and whining about being banned. The "how dare she" attitudes made me LMAO. Perhaps it wasn't needed but I felt compelled to pour salt on the wound. :evil: I told them all they had to do was type 2 simple letters, "hi" in chat and all could have been avoided...

You are absolutely right. If I'm in a model's room and she's talking to me specifically, saying "Hi, Shelly!" it would never cross my mind to just sit there all night ignoring her. How hard is it to say hi? If I'm logged into a cam site member account, it's because I intend to have some conversation with a model and possibly tip her...not just sit there watching her like she's a 2-hour movie.

 

[sorrowfool]

I generally lurk in a model's room for a time before I start participating. I like to see how the girl interacts with her room, how she handles slow times with no tips, and good times with tips rolling in, who her room regulars are and they interact with her and each other, etc. I like to see her general overall attitude over a few days before I decide if it's a room I want to invest my time and money in.

 

[ComicOzzie]

I gotta jump on this bandwagon and say some of the most awesome fellers I know were silent lurkers. One of my newest fellers was a name I new really well because he hung out and lurked for a super long time, like weeks maybe more.
He's not only a good tipper now but also a super fucking rad guy who makes my time online even more enjoyable than before.
If they aren't pestering you other than just being present whats the point? You only lose in that scenario.

I agree. When I am new to a model's room, I will lurk silently for weeks, until I figure out the room dynamics, especially if there is a constant flow of chat going on. Banning me for this would benefit the model how?

Edit: What sorrowfool said.

 

[A_Friend]

My friends topic was..1500 to get these clothes off of me in free...pvts are welcome xxx

Well there was ten premiums in room for about half an hour "the regulars" all together tipped the 1500 for..As soon as she got up to music,the lounge20 brigade started to arrive :whistle: 400 premiums in about 2 to 3 mins,non regulars tipped ten tokens twice during the strip..So she finished,they all went back to the lounge.

That is why i made this topic as it does happen every time she is nude in free,she wont use toys in free,or cum,only teases

Any other models having this problem? Would love to know any feed back

Ty

 

[ComicOzzie]

My friends topic was..1500 to get these clothes off of me in free...pvts are welcome xxx

Well there was ten premiums in room for about half an hour "the regulars" all together tipped the 1500 for..As soon as she got up to music,the lounge20 brigade started to arrive :whistle: 400 premiums in about 2 to 3 mins,non regulars tipped ten tokens twice during the strip..So she finished,they all went back to the lounge.

That is why i made this topic as it does happen every time she is nude in free,she wont use toys in free,or cum,only teases

Any other models having this problem? Would love to know any feed back

Ty

And of these 400 freeloaders, maybe 20 of them will really like what they see and return to her room the next time she is online. And maybe she will then have more than 10 premiums in her room on a regular basis. And maybe a few more tippers as well. More volume in a models' room is a GOOD thing.

 

[AliceDoe]

My friends topic was..1500 to get these clothes off of me in free...pvts are welcome xxx

Well there was ten premiums in room for about half an hour "the regulars" all together tipped the 1500 for..As soon as she got up to music,the lounge20 brigade started to arrive :whistle: 400 premiums in about 2 to 3 mins,non regulars tipped ten tokens twice during the strip..So she finished,they all went back to the lounge.

That is why i made this topic as it does happen every time she is nude in free,she wont use toys in free,or cum,only teases

Any other models having this problem? Would love to know any feed back

Ty

She made her countdown, she made 1500 tokens... What the fuck are you complaining about??

 

[schlmoe]

My friends topic was..1500 to get these clothes off of me in free...pvts are welcome xxx

Well there was ten premiums in room for about half an hour "the regulars" all together tipped the 1500 for..As soon as she got up to music,the lounge20 brigade started to arrive :whistle: 400 premiums in about 2 to 3 mins,non regulars tipped ten tokens twice during the strip..So she finished,they all went back to the lounge.

That is why i made this topic as it does happen every time she is nude in free,she wont use toys in free,or cum,only teases

Any other models having this problem? Would love to know any feed back

Ty

She made her countdown, she made 1500 tokens... What the fuck are you complaining about??

I was thinking the same thing. There are a lot of models who would love to have 10 regs who kill a 1500 token countdown in 30 minutes! As mentioned earlier, who's to say she can't peel off a few of those loungers to become new regs.

 

[Shaun__]

As mentioned earlier, who's to say she can't peel off a few of those loungers to become new regs.

Since they did leave the lounge instead of watching from there I think that is possible.

 

[Evvie]

My friends topic was..1500 to get these clothes off of me in free...pvts are welcome xxx

Well there was ten premiums in room for about half an hour "the regulars" all together tipped the 1500 for..As soon as she got up to music,the lounge20 brigade started to arrive :whistle: 400 premiums in about 2 to 3 mins,non regulars tipped ten tokens twice during the strip..So she finished,they all went back to the lounge.

That is why i made this topic as it does happen every time she is nude in free,she wont use toys in free,or cum,only teases

Any other models having this problem? Would love to know any feed back

Ty

I'm thinking the point here is not that it's unfair to the model, but that the members would prefer people they do not approve of not watch the show?

If a member is unhappy that he tipped for a public show that other members can see, perhaps those members should initiate private sessions instead.

I think the next time you are in the model's room you should tell the other members about private and group shows so they don't have to keep wasting their money in tips.

 

[motorman420]

I saw the 3 of them in L1000 bitchin and whining about being banned. The "how dare she" attitudes made me LMAO. Perhaps it wasn't needed but I felt compelled to pour salt on the wound. :evil: I told them all they had to do was type 2 simple letters, "hi" in chat and all could have been avoided...

You are absolutely right. If I'm in a model's room and she's talking to me specifically, saying "Hi, Shelly!" it would never cross my mind to just sit there all night ignoring her. How hard is it to say hi? If I'm logged into a cam site member account, it's because I intend to have some conversation with a model and possibly tip her...not just sit there watching her like she's a 2-hour movie.

I feel the same way, although normally I will just make idle conversation in public chat, such as as exchanging pleasantries. I much rather chat via PM so I normally find myself in rooms with < 50 people(5-10 or so premiums) in them. But I wonder if that is also detrimental to the model, as I will tip fairly well(not a "whale" by any stretch of the imagination, but typically between 500 and 1000 tokens over the course of 2 or 3 hours) but the model winds up chatting to me (via PM) for most of the time

I am just getting acclimated to the way all of this works as I had never visited a room prior to joining MFC in the middle of May, so please excuse my naivete.

As far as lounge or lounge1000 go, I usually just use them to check out rooms prior to actually entering them, I found that I would get berated with PMs (sometimes 7-10 at a time, all saying hi bb hru) if I just opened the first room and continued through via next model link.

As for the lower cam score girls I have found that if you are receptive to them it can hurt you as well, because in one case I would chat with a girl, whom I liked(although not necessarily thought was very attractive) but when I stopped visiting her room she rated me a one to try to make me look bad, I guess, and of course with only five ratings a one can really hurt the average

 

[Swirl]

I saw the 3 of them in L1000 bitchin and whining about being banned. The "how dare she" attitudes made me LMAO. Perhaps it wasn't needed but I felt compelled to pour salt on the wound. :evil: I told them all they had to do was type 2 simple letters, "hi" in chat and all could have been avoided...

You are absolutely right. If I'm in a model's room and she's talking to me specifically, saying "Hi, Shelly!" it would never cross my mind to just sit there all night ignoring her. How hard is it to say hi? If I'm logged into a cam site member account, it's because I intend to have some conversation with a model and possibly tip her...not just sit there watching her like she's a 2-hour movie.

I feel the same way, although normally I will just make idle conversation in public chat, such as as exchanging pleasantries. I much rather chat via PM so I normally find myself in rooms with < 50 people(5-10 or so premiums) in them. But I wonder if that is also detrimental to the model, as I will tip fairly well(not a "whale" by any stretch of the imagination, but typically between 500 and 1000 tokens over the course of 2 or 3 hours) but the model winds up chatting to me (via PM) for most of the time

I am just getting acclimated to the way all of this works as I had never visited a room prior to joining MFC in the middle of May, so please excuse my naivete.

As far as lounge or lounge1000 go, I usually just use them to check out rooms prior to actually entering them, I found that I would get berated with PMs (sometimes 7-10 at a time, all saying hi bb hru) if I just opened the first room and continued through via next model link.

As for the lower cam score girls I have found that if you are receptive to them it can hurt you as well, because in one case I would chat with a girl, whom I liked(although not necessarily thought was very attractive) but when I stopped visiting her room she rated me a one to try to make me look bad, I guess, and of course with only five ratings a one can really hurt the average

I think this is fair. If you prefer to chat via the PM and you are tipping for it, then hell.....what model shall complain if you are keeping her out of the public chat? She should be able to do both anyway in a room with only 10 premiums. The part that I would find disturbing if I was a model is these guys that PM every model they visit and tip nothing and have no intention of tipping. That's just plain rude. If you don't want to be bombarded with PM's from models, try hiding your tokens amounts. You can do that in the account settings so that the models won't know how many tokens you have. Also, don't worry about the ratings....I'm not sure very many models pay attention to the ratings of premium members.