Why do companies even use real people for their pictures?

[SexySteph]

Re: Why do companies even use real people for their pictures

Its sad that girls keep getting this message from both the media and each other, and sadly even some guys. I would have hoped that porn stars like Stoya and Sasha Grey would have made it clear that brains and attitude is what makes women sexy.

LOL Stoya and Sasha Grey are of course both physically drop dead gorgeous which totally helps their brain be sexy :lol:

Thank you for proving my point. They are skinny brunettes with no tits. Stoya isn't that pretty by MFC standards though Sasha Grey is quite attractive. There 10 girls as pretty as either of them on MFC at any point in time. Despite that, those two girls have made empires out of convincing people they are gorgeous and super sexy.

... They ARE very attractive women. If you had held up an example of not stereotypically attractive women that people love for their brains you would have proven your point, but you didn't.


If you look at many magazines, dark hair and smaller breasts are actually what's in right now. Big boobs seem to be reserved for lad mags but are stereotypically gorgeous. All the models on the site I buy my clothes from are brunette-dirty blonde, mostly not very curvy and small chests but I think they'd still be considered stereotypically pretty.

So... I don't think expecting two stereotypically gorgeous women to prove to people that brains are what make people sexy makes sense.

 

[candyblues_mfc]

Re: Why do companies even use real people for their pictures

Photoshop photoshop photoshop.

Personally never understood he massive need to get "perfect" models and then deform them/
Always found it hilar that they get tiny models and then photoshop curves on them.
There is no ideal...its a big mess.

Personally the use of it too improve at photo in terms of lighting etc I think is fine...I love using it for that, but when it gets to the point where you are altering a persons body shape and bone structure its insulting.

I for one know that if I take a picture from a flattering angle + nice lighting + effects I can look reallllll good.

What I've learnt from MFC is men dont give as much as a shit as you think, especially when distracted by pussy, honestly I get compliments regardless of make up or no make up. I'm always surprised by the fact I can go on there hungover....exhausted....no make up...un shaven (all over) blemishes and still not manage to get told to leave.

So yh...

 

[Red7227]

Re: Why do companies even use real people for their pictures

So... I don't think expecting two stereotypically gorgeous women to prove to people that brains are what make people sexy makes sense

And those two have inspired how many women to get fake boobs? 2 million US women have fake boobs, and another million have had some kind of breast surgery. I don't know how many times its happened to you, but I have been in so many rooms where girls are saying they are going to get a breast enlargment because they feel they need cleavage to be sexy.

http://www.plasticsurgery.org/Documents ... istics.pdf

 

[SexySteph]

Re: Why do companies even use real people for their pictures

So... I don't think expecting two stereotypically gorgeous women to prove to people that brains are what make people sexy makes sense

And those two have inspired how many women to get fake boobs? 2 million US women have fake boobs, and another million have had some kind of breast surgery. I don't know how many times its happened to you, but I have been in so many rooms where girls are saying they are going to get a breast enlargment because they feel they need cleavage to be sexy.

http://www.plasticsurgery.org/Documents ... istics.pdf

Alright, well we weren't talking specifically about boobs in this thread. We were talking about photoshop and unrealistic expectations of beauty and you held up these two women as hopefully having "made it clear that brains and attitude is what makes women sexy." You actually never mentioned unrealistic breast expectations anywhere in your post, just that they had small boobs so... That might be why many of us thought you were holding them up as homely women that society only finds attractive because of their brains. Idk, I never thought that you were talking about them teaching women that small boobs were okay, especially when you claimed they were of mild attractiveness.

 

[Red7227]

Re: Why do companies even use real people for their pictures

So... I don't think expecting two stereotypically gorgeous women to prove to people that brains are what make people sexy makes sense

And those two have inspired how many women to get fake boobs? 2 million US women have fake boobs, and another million have had some kind of breast surgery. I don't know how many times its happened to you, but I have been in so many rooms where girls are saying they are going to get a breast enlargment because they feel they need cleavage to be sexy.

http://www.plasticsurgery.org/Documents ... istics.pdf

Alright, well we weren't talking specifically about boobs in this thread. We were talking about photoshop and unrealistic expectations of beauty and you held up these two women as hopefully having "made it clear that brains and attitude is what makes women sexy." You actually never mentioned unrealistic breast expectations anywhere in your post, just that they had small boobs so... That might be why many of us thought you were holding them up as homely women that society only finds attractive because of their brains. Idk, I never thought that you were talking about them teaching women that small boobs were okay, especially when you claimed they were of mild attractiveness.

Jennifer Lawrence has her cleavage enhanced by photoshop in the first picture in this thread. My comment is that Stoya and Sasha Grey are good examples of skinny women with no tits who know how to be sexy.

Stoya is cute and all, but she is not by any stretch drop dead gorgeous.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Re: Why do companies even use real people for their pictures

Jennifer Lawrence has her cleavage enhanced by photoshop in the first picture in this thread. My comment is that Stoya and Sasha Grey are good examples of skinny women with no tits who know how to be sexy.

Stoya is cute and all, but she is not by any stretch drop dead gorgeous.

That's the second time you've said that in this thread. You really need to add 'In my own personal opinion...' before you say stoya is not drop dead gorgeous. Because, trust me, you're on your own there. I for one think she's drop dead gorgeous and i'm fairly certain i'm in the overwhelming majority with that opinion.

 

[Red7227]

Re: Why do companies even use real people for their pictures

Jennifer Lawrence has her cleavage enhanced by photoshop in the first picture in this thread. My comment is that Stoya and Sasha Grey are good examples of skinny women with no tits who know how to be sexy.

Stoya is cute and all, but she is not by any stretch drop dead gorgeous.

That's the second time you've said that in this thread. You really need to add 'In my own personal opinion...' before you say stoya is not drop dead gorgeous. Because, trust me, you're on your own there. I for one think she's drop dead gorgeous and i'm fairly certain i'm in the overwhelming majority with that opinion.

With enough photoshop, the right lighting and makeup anyone is gorgeous, which is rather the point of this thread I thought.

 

[Gen]

Re: Why do companies even use real people for their pictures

With enough photoshop, the right lighting and makeup anyone is gorgeous, which is rather the point of this thread I thought.

I thought the point of the thread was to say "damn, why do they Photoshop women so much, it's unrealistic and they're gorgeous on their own". I don't think saying "look, she's not even hot!!" is any better. I do agree you can make pretty much anyone look conventionally attractive with all those things, though. :twocents-02cents:

(I am also in the Stoya-is-gorgeous camp, and I think she looks stunning in both photos that have been posted of her.)

 

[Deleted member 8603]

Re: Why do companies even use real people for their pictures

Getting back tot he original topic.....

Photoshop can REALLY pull away from how gorgeous someone really is.
Before: Lovely woman
After: Wax mannequin

They could have done a wonderful job using photoshop by just barely adjusting the light and removing anything distracting.

 

[Finebrush]

Re: Why do companies even use real people for their pictures

I'm a Photoshop "grunt", know it inside out, and lot of work done in image editing, as I said (luckily not needing to do this kind of work), and I definitely would do nothing at all to "improve" the one on the left. Maybe it's just me.

Specially when... They even changed her eyes tone! Not sure if they only faked a special reflection/lighting on them, I think the change was more than that...

One very important thing a lot seem to just don't care about... is that with these editings... One never should do a too painterly thing... It's makes the fakes be detected from miles...One other thing... I sometimes think it would not harm that the people retouching had some knowledge of anatomy and drawing... Often they set some bone structure or other changes not matching with the rest of the woman or man...

And.. The woman eating a sandwich (I don't know who Stoya is, Sasha Grey I think she is a porn actress) , in my view, is extremely cute, super attractive and sexy... I don't know in which direction where you wanting to make the point, but I like quite more the one eating a sandwich. (and one of the reasons might be, she, faking it or not, looks very happy eating it... )

Dunno, I might be one of those going for the natural beauty above all... And yeepp... I kind of like more a woman without make up... When the woman is pretty, this is my personal opinion, is quite prettier without any painting on her.... Is not just that of, "me wantz pussy now" factor. Indeed, am not speaking about that, which is absolutely pretty accurate about how we react given certain moment, I am speaking of considering it under an objective, non-horny light... A woman, without make up, nothing done, just how she is, is majorly beautiful. I kind of have this theory that, specially any kind of medical operation (no one needs to change her boobs, ass, nose, nothing... women of the world, believe me... neither any part of your body.. this way you also stop giving your money to that unethical business) , but not even make up, nor Photoshop, none of these do "improve" a woman. They are great as they are. And the more natural they show... the more happy they start to be with their own body, face, expression... the more attractive they will show to every one. This is some kind of magic that works always. Of course, if the viewer has some tons of clichés bloating his/her poor brain, is gonna be hard to change that wrong fake view they have about real beauty. But even in this case, I wouldnt go and ruin my body, health (specially through the incoming years, where I would probably need to keep doing more surgeries), and loads of money, when in so many cases it produces the opposite of what the woman wished. I am a painter, I do paint portraits. I know well face features, expression, etc. And when a woman (or guy, I just hear less cases with them) Photoshops too much, goes too far with the make up, or, very specially makes physical changes through surgery, it all looses coherence and... beauty. IMHO, is my 2c, only that.

Of course I agree with lighting. That's perfectly ok. Not all lightings are good. Indeed, light is so key in any image. Also, if you really feel bad for some spots (I certainly wouldn't) , that might be ok. The rest of it is part of you! And makes you nice Again, it's my 2c. But I know am right in this one

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Re: Why do companies even use real people for their pictures

With enough photoshop, the right lighting and makeup anyone is gorgeous, which is rather the point of this thread I thought.

I thought the point of the thread was to say "damn, why do they Photoshop women so much, it's unrealistic and they're gorgeous on their own". I don't think saying "look, she's not even hot!!" is any better. I do agree you can make pretty much anyone look conventionally attractive with all those things, though. :twocents-02cents:

(I am also in the Stoya-is-gorgeous camp, and I think she looks stunning in both photos that have been posted of her.)

Having met stoya while she was tired, in a hoodie and sweat pants, sitting outside on a crappy day at a convention, I can tell you she is quite breathtaking in person even without the make up, lighting and photoshop. She had minimal make up on at that point too. It was a way she carried herself - i recognized her from across a parking lot. And she was lovely.

That picture of her eating pizza.. I don't know how you don't find that gorgeous? I guess different strokes for different folks.

 

[Jillybean]

Re: Why do companies even use real people for their pictures

Getting back tot he original topic.....

Photoshop can REALLY pull away from how gorgeous someone really is.
Before: Lovely woman
After: Wax mannequin

They could have done a wonderful job using photoshop by just barely adjusting the light and removing anything distracting.

I agree so hard. The only thing photoshop worthy are the stray hairs at her forehead. But even then, why bother?

 

[Red7227]

Re: Why do companies even use real people for their pictures

It was a way she carried herself - i recognized her from across a parking lot. And she was lovely.

And that was my original point back about 20 posts ago.

 

[IsabellaSnow]

Re: Why do companies even use real people for their pictures

The thing about someone not being conventionally attractive just because they have small boobs and are skinny.... are you on a different planet from me? Yes many women get boob jobs, but not as many women get boob jobs as go on crazy crash diet and at various points of their lives go through forms of starvation to try and achieve a skinny/model figure, which generally includes having small tits!

Yes we live in a world that likes larger breasts. Men like larger breasts and it's a very easy form of plastic surgery. There are also plenty of women with larger breasts who are getting breast reductions. I'm a girl with naturally large breasts but I'd love to have a slim form even if it included smaller breasts. Problem is, there's no plastic surgery that'd get me there! You'd have to totally change my genetic make-up and my bone size! Even if I dieted loads I'd have to starve myself and do a fuck load of exercise just to be slim, and I could still gain weight. Getting boobs put in is a fairly simple thing which is why so many women go for the surgery, because it's available!

As a girl with larger breasts I notice all over the media that even girls who are considered curvy are still like 4-8 dress sizes smaller than me, and I'm in the healthy weight category. Most really famous celebs that are considered super sexy don't have large breasts. Sure in the porn and the glamour industry maybe, but nowhere else. In the real world even many men seem to add up larger breasts with a woman being promiscuous and dumb, and small breasts with intelligent and monogamous, so no I don't think a woman in the porn industry with smaller breasts being recognised as beautiful (while still being stunningly beautiful-because she is even when stuffing food in her face) is anything to do with her intelligence, no matter how clever she actually is.

Many of the most popular models on MFC have tiny tits, but how many do you see who are overweight? And I don't just mean girls who have some fat on them but are still in the healthy weight range, I mean actually overweight. I'd be much more impressed with mankind if a very curvy girl had those sorts of levels of success.

 

[Finebrush]

Re: Why do companies even use real people for their pictures

I guess in your profession is even harder to see your self free of these social pressures... What I meant in general with surgery, make up, photoshop, and now that you mention, the obsession with the weight... Is that women, you are all beautiful. I know this might sound stupid, but the concept has its complexity. As a person who always liked drawing the human body, and very specially, the face, I do know that there is not a single type of beauty. Yes, there's a common established or over hyped one, a cannon heavily imposed by the media in the last two centuries (better said in the latest 50 - 60 years). But as an artist, I see beauty as something that has harmony with it self, and that is capable of expressing and inspiring emotions. This has zero connection to how many bones can I see through a woman's skin (I would prefer to see none ) . As for a random example, in the XVII century the ideal woman would be considered such an over weight for these fashion's dictators... A closer one would be just the 50's Hollywood actresses. Many of them would be considered out of weight, today. Which is totally crazy. It works like those snow balls that get bigger as they roll... As some minds have pushed this cannon for whatever the interests, then women follow it, men do as well, as we all keep giving more value to what the mass or the media says and dictates, instead of trying to see what we really like. When I was quite more of that kind of man that does all type of sports, has not a single gram of fat in himself, and well, has a very active social life, I remember that probably the woman that has excited me more, ever, was one with who I was dating for some short time. And she was way over weight by any criteria. She was extremely hot, and super beautiful. I left it all because of her conversation and for the inability to get some enthusiasm about virtually anything. This has happened to me with some super thin and pretty woman, too. if it were for the physical part, I was extremely happy. In other occasion, I was at a party, and 2 women, wont tell the whole story, approached me with dirty intentions. They both started kissing me in the middle of a disco. (I was absolutely surprised, not having an idea why this was happening). One of them was super thin, and very beautiful. The other had quite more weight, and was very nice, too. Well the kiss of the latter, I cannot explain why, was the greatest kiss of my life. Of course, when you fall in love, a kiss would mean a lot more things than what happens in a crazy night, and will always be greater in some manner. But I am speaking of.. The best kiss, and it was that one. I have learnt to run away very strongly from topical concepts. They are not very real or authentic.