Who wants ORIGINAL toys?

[AudriTwo]

Right? That's what I'm trying to do. Make it awesome for you and the customers! Do you think you could get more customers or more tips if the toy gave a better view?

I work a private based site. I use my interactive toys for selected goldshows and exclusive shows where I give the customer full control of the vibration. I don't use in between because it is either that or music. And I much rather be listening to music.

Honestly I could care less about the controlling aspect. I care more so about the visibility. Though I do believe it would be an added bonus. Other cammodels would find that useful to their hustle and flow then I would.

 

[Sextoysinventor]

Unpopular opinion time:

I personally hate the Hitachi because it just makes my crotch numb and then I can't feel anything and can't finish. The thought of reducing that much vibration down to a pinpoint vibe sounds painful to me, like is my clit gonna bleed from this? No thank you! And that much vibration internally - ah, yes, cervix bruising and pelvic bone pounding, just what I never wanted!

My favorite vibe on the planet is the We-Vibe Tango. It's a cute little lipstick vibe that is somehow hella powerful. It's not on par with the Hitachi, but it is the most powerful vibe I've tried if you don't include the Hitachi. It's amazing, and the vibration is PERFECT. This thing will make me cum in about 45 seconds. The only downside to it is that, once I crank it up to the highest setting, the charge only lasts for about an hour, and then I have to switch it out for something else. I tend to have masturbation marathons where I go for 2-3 hours, cause, well, multiple orgasms are a fun thing. So, yeah, if you were to develop a Tango clone that would have a longer charge, I would be all over it. You could make it have a handle of some sort if needed to accommodate a longer charge, as long as it has that tip.

Thanks for the feedback. No cervix bruising or pelvic bone crushing. I wish I could tell you more. I think you will like it.

Do you use toys in your shows? Do you consider toys an important part of engaging some or all of your customers?

 

[Sextoysinventor]

Now, my HUGE gripe with any rabbit style vibrator is they're too fucking big. My vulva is much higher up than it appears everyone else's, so rabbit vibrators literally don't fit my anatomy. If I do want to reach the vibe, then I have to cram the toy inside of me painfully deep to even attempt to reach my vulva and it hurts so badly it typically leaves me in tears. Is there EVER going to be a company that makes shorter fucking dildos?! You said your vibrator is adjustable, does this mean you'll offer shorter penetrative parts and longer external parts, or at the very least, a much much shorter dildo attachment?

RIGHT?!?! Its fucking stupid! I was a rabbit hater for years for that very reason. They usually don't fit! I'm guessing that like 80% live in the drawer or go in the trash. I'm with you!

Yes! You can make the penetrative part very short or very long. You can even go back and forth in literally 2 seconds! I guarantee that this rabbit will hit the right spots for you inside and out. Plus, since those "spots" are constantly "moving" while you play, you can continue to adjust it as you go.

I've spent thousands of dollars on toys that get trashed immediately because they hurt too fucking bad and are impossible to make work with my smaller than average anatomy.

Yikes! That's a lot of money! I get it that you need a unique fit. But, what were you buying? What would you buy now?

 

[Sextoysinventor]

I'm sure you've worn a bra in your lifetime designed by a MAN. Even Victoria's Secret has had male designers in it's history. He's only talking about design which is only the first stage toward releasing a product. Even if he was a woman he'd still have to have others test it.

His focus on the visual representation to members him describing his nitch. That doesn't mean it has to come at the cost of still needing to be a comfortable toy.

His logic for the need is sound. Right now you have the member base split into two groups. 1. That assumes all interactive toy models are liars and faking. 2. Those that buy into it but don't see the visual value to more than 1 token vibe tipping.

A toy that has better visual distinction while in use on cam would help both these groups and the models as well if he can create a toy that is better designed for long term penetration that currently doesn't exist at all.

Yay! You get it! Wanna help?

 

[Sextoysinventor]

I work a private based site. I use my interactive toys for selected goldshows and exclusive shows where I give the customer full control of the vibration. I don't use in between because it is either that or music. And I much rather be listening to music.

Honestly I could care less about the controlling aspect. I care more so about the visibility. Though I do believe it would be an added bonus. Other cammodels would find that useful to their hustle and flow then I would.

Thanks! I'm thinking the interactive part is a huge bonus. But, today everyone thinks "interactive" only means Lovense or OhmiBod. I think that the model is the interactive feature that matters most! I'm trying to enhance that.

I want to figure out how to give models toys that enhance the visual interaction. The toys should help the model engage the customers more...without faking. Does that make sense?

If you had a more visual toy could you connect better with your customers?

 

[SaffronBurke]

Thanks for the feedback. No cervix bruising or pelvic bone crushing. I wish I could tell you more. I think you will like it.

Do you use toys in your shows? Do you consider toys an important part of engaging some or all of your customers?

I haven't in a long time, domme, tease, and fetish shows are far more lucrative for me.

 

[Sextoysinventor]

I haven't in a long time, domme, tease, and fetish shows are far more lucrative for me.

Nice!

 

[Helen Crimson]

This toy sounds incredibly interesting with how adjustable it is. I'm eager to see the plan for it once you're able to show us. I've never found a single rabbit vibe that works for me. If it's everything you say it is, I'm sold. I agree that it would be useful to implement some way of controlling the speed over the internet. With a toy with that much visual feedback, I think customers would go crazy over being able to actually see how they are controlling it.

 

[Rose]

RIGHT?!?! Its fucking stupid! I was a rabbit hater for years for that very reason. They usually don't fit! I'm guessing that like 80% live in the drawer or go in the trash. I'm with you!

Yes! You can make the penetrative part very short or very long. You can even go back and forth in literally 2 seconds! I guarantee that this rabbit will hit the right spots for you inside and out. Plus, since those "spots" are constantly "moving" while you play, you can continue to adjust it as you go.



Yikes! That's a lot of money! I get it that you need a unique fit. But, what were you buying? What would you buy now?

I've purchased toys from Lovense, Vibratex, and a handful of other companies. The Vibratex ended up smashed in bits against the wall because it was THAT painful to use. The Lovense is exceptionally painful for me unless I'm either incredibly stoned or utterly shitfaced, so it sits in the drawer collecting dust.

Unless the penetrative handle was about 2 inches or shorter, it just won't work for me. I've never seen any vulva in any porn or in person that has the same length as mine either so with the shallow vagina and elongated vulva, 90% of toys just do not work. My vagina is the equivalent of a very very tiny micro-penis. I know this because I've had sex with a micro-penis and it still did not fit. My anatomy also requires very slender penetration, so basically a skinny nub. Anything more than that and it's just painful.

 

[SMuser69]

I've purchased toys from Lovense, Vibratex, and a handful of other companies. The Vibratex ended up smashed in bits against the wall because it was THAT painful to use. The Lovense is exceptionally painful for me unless I'm either incredibly stoned or utterly shitfaced, so it sits in the drawer collecting dust.

Unless the penetrative handle was about 2 inches or shorter, it just won't work for me. I've never seen any vulva in any porn or in person that has the same length as mine either so with the shallow vagina and elongated vulva, 90% of toys just do not work. My vagina is the equivalent of a very very tiny micro-penis. I know this because I've had sex with a micro-penis and it still did not fit. My anatomy also requires very slender penetration, so basically a skinny nub. Anything more than that and it's just painful.

Have you tried rectal toys like beads or anal dildo? They tend to be much more thin sizes that normal vaginal toys.

 

[SuzySirenXO]

I am still quite interested in seeing what this beast looks like or something. Curiouser & Curiouser

 

[Sextoysinventor]

I've purchased toys from Lovense, Vibratex, and a handful of other companies. The Vibratex ended up smashed in bits against the wall because it was THAT painful to use. The Lovense is exceptionally painful for me unless I'm either incredibly stoned or utterly shitfaced, so it sits in the drawer collecting dust.

Unless the penetrative handle was about 2 inches or shorter, it just won't work for me. I've never seen any vulva in any porn or in person that has the same length as mine either so with the shallow vagina and elongated vulva, 90% of toys just do not work. My vagina is the equivalent of a very very tiny micro-penis. I know this because I've had sex with a micro-penis and it still did not fit. My anatomy also requires very slender penetration, so basically a skinny nub. Anything more than that and it's just painful.

Wow. I'm sorry to hear that. It sounds like you've figured out what works. Are there any toys that do work? Do you want some suggestions? (not mine, just others I might know). I literally watch sex toy releases on my news feed every day.

 

[Rose]

Have you tried rectal toys like beads or anal dildo? They tend to be much more thin sizes that normal vaginal toys.

Yes and no dice. I used to sell sex toys for a living before joining the adult industry. The list of toys I've tried is too long to remember.

Wow. I'm sorry to hear that. It sounds like you've figured out what works. Are there any toys that do work? Do you want some suggestions? (not mine, just others I might know). I literally watch sex toy releases on my news feed every day.

Nope! Not for penetration. It's just how my vagina works. I've gone through hundreds of toys, but I'm convinced unless doctors actually fix the problem there will never be any toys at all that work. External toys are fine, so long as there is zero penetration, but that rarely makes viewers happy. How will this toy be adjustable? My biggest question is how easily does it compact and stretch, because what happens if you accidentally bump the elongation switch and it starts to expand or collapse during penetration? That sounds like a very very very painful recipe for vagina disaster.

 

[Tristyn]

So, I have a pretty decent size toy collection at this point. I'm a cam girl, toy peddler (wholesale), and toy reviewer. I have yet to find a single rabbit vibrator that's worked well for me, in my personal life or on cam. They're either too big, too awkward, have shitty motors, or just can't hit my clit and g-spot OR my clit and a-spot (near the cervix) at the same time. So I'm definitely curious about the adjustability aspect.

That said, my most popular cam toys are: Lovense (I have the Ambi now, with the Domi Wand and Osci on preorder), Sybian, wand-style toys (I usually use my Hitachi Rechargeable or Shibari Halo), and smaller clit-stim toys like the We-Vibe Tango. I'm a Femdom who's both kink and pleasure (well, for me ) focused, but the reality is that I don't think most people care what kind of toys I use. I own higher quality toys because I like them, but I did just as well when I owned nothing but a couple of mediocre vibrators. The only big game changers for me were the Lovense toys and the Sybian.

I think that interactive toys (more specifically, tip or user controlled rigs) are probably your best bet for marketing to the cam model community. Personally, I already have TONS of fun/weird (Womanizer, Satisfyer, Sqweel, Violet Wand, Zeus Electric Wand, Hello Touch X, Electrastim, etc) sex & kink toys that I rarely use on cam because very few people actually know or care what they are, so I wouldn't gravitate towards new toys for cam life unless they really had the right selling features.

I don't know, just my two cents worth.

 

[mylittlefoxie]

Hey Jeff,

I think it's a really great idea o start a company focusing on toys for cam models. At the moment there really is a lack of good toys. I cam together with my girlfriend and whenever we buy a toy I always do some research. And the thing that frustrated me the most is that most interactive toys just don't work as they should. They disconnect, aren't strong enough and just aren't user friendly. There also really isn't a company that I found that makes good interactive toys for cam models. The toy you are describing sounds really interesting. But I was wondering is it powered by batteries or by cable? I personally prefer toys that are powered with a cable as they are way stronger and they have much better connections.

At the end I really like your idea and would also be pleased to help you with idea's. We also would love to test out some of your toys and give you detailed feedback!

Friendly greetings,
Sofia and Thomas.

 

[Sextoysinventor]

. How will this toy be adjustable? My biggest question is how easily does it compact and stretch, because what happens if you accidentally bump the elongation switch and it starts to expand or collapse during penetration? That sounds like a very very very painful recipe for vagina disaster.

It can't do that. The adjustment doesn't have a spring and could never do what you described. Ouch!

So, I have a pretty decent size toy collection at this point. I'm a cam girl, toy peddler (wholesale), and toy reviewer. I have yet to find a single rabbit vibrator that's worked well for me, in my personal life or on cam. They're either too big, too awkward, have shitty motors, or just can't hit my clit and g-spot OR my clit and a-spot (near the cervix) at the same time. So I'm definitely curious about the adjustability aspect.

That said, my most popular cam toys are: Lovense (I have the Ambi now, with the Domi Wand and Osci on preorder), Sybian, wand-style toys (I usually use my Hitachi Rechargeable or Shibari Halo), and smaller clit-stim toys like the We-Vibe Tango. I'm a Femdom who's both kink and pleasure (well, for me ) focused, but the reality is that I don't think most people care what kind of toys I use. I own higher quality toys because I like them, but I did just as well when I owned nothing but a couple of mediocre vibrators. The only big game changers for me were the Lovense toys and the Sybian.

I think that interactive toys (more specifically, tip or user controlled rigs) are probably your best bet for marketing to the cam model community. Personally, I already have TONS of fun/weird (Womanizer, Satisfyer, Sqweel, Violet Wand, Zeus Electric Wand, Hello Touch X, Electrastim, etc) sex & kink toys that I rarely use on cam because very few people actually know or care what they are, so I wouldn't gravitate towards new toys for cam life unless they really had the right selling features.

I don't know, just my two cents worth.

Tristyn,

Thanks! Obviously, I agree about the rabbit fit dilemma.

You just confirmed what I had suspected from the other replies and other threads. It seems that enough models are having success with interactive toys and there are plenty of "alternative" toys to satisfy the others. So, yeah, cam models will want it 10x or 100x more if its interactive like Lovense. Right?

I can't wait to show you the adjustablility and penetrating vibrations. They are great for everyone. But, cam models aren't everyone. Maybe the best way to convince cam models to put aside the Lovense money train is offer a faster/bigger money train....

Hold on! Wooo Woooo

Hey Jeff,
I think it's a really great idea o start a company focusing on toys for cam models. At the moment there really is a lack of good toys. I cam together with my girlfriend and whenever we buy a toy I always do some research. And the thing that frustrated me the most is that most interactive toys just don't work as they should. They disconnect, aren't strong enough and just aren't user friendly. There also really isn't a company that I found that makes good interactive toys for cam models. The toy you are describing sounds really interesting. But I was wondering is it powered by batteries or by cable? I personally prefer toys that are powered with a cable as they are way stronger and they have much better connections.

At the end I really like your idea and would also be pleased to help you with idea's. We also would love to test out some of your toys and give you detailed feedback!

Friendly greetings,
Sofia and Thomas.

Interesting. Yes, I just saw your same concern in a different thread. I had always thought that I could make a huge difference for cam models if the toys were just more durable....so you can use them multiple times per day. Do you feel like cam toys need to be more durable than mainstream toys (in terms of motors and batteries)? Do you think it is also true that most cam models would agree with you and rather have a cord?

Let's chat on DM regarding help. Thanks!

 

[Tristyn]

I prefer cordless, rechargeable toys when possible myself, though I'll make exceptions for larger toys like sex machines.

Cords get in the way when you're trying to change positions or show different angles on cam, and I like the option of using them even if there might not be an outlet near by (outdoors, camping, etc). The Magic Wand Rechargeable is actually stronger than the plug-in, so I know that it's possible to make cordless toys that are also very powerful.

Things that I tend to look for or gravitate towards in quality toys:

Non-porous, body safe materials
Waterproof if possible
Rechargeable / Cordless
Battery life (hour+ on high)
Strength and type of vibration (a lot of people are going to prefer rumbly vibrations over buzzy, though I kind of like something in the middle)
Ease of use (for example, up/down button functions, rather than having to cycle through the whole menu using one button)

And if it's for camming specifically, interactive toys do well for me, as previously mentioned.

 

[missdoll]

I'm not a camgirl, but I'm still very curious!

I'm one of those in a long distance relationship who play as a "camgirl" for her guy. I really behave as if I was on a private show with him on Chaturbate and -sadly or not- this is what runs our relationship over the distance...

Visual feedback from a toy is something I REALLY have been missing. I'd LOVE some technology that allows him not only to control the toy and see me react but also see in a clear way how the toy vibrates on my body...Guess this is something that would make me feel more close - intimate despite the miles...hmmmm....

So keep up the good work and please update us soon! I really would love to own such a toy and test it out for me and my guy. Would you try to market it for LDRs too as Buetooth brands do?

 

[Sextoysinventor]

I'm not a camgirl, but I'm still very curious!

I'm one of those in a long distance relationship who play as a "camgirl" for her guy. I really behave as if I was on a private show with him on Chaturbate and -sadly or not- this is what runs our relationship over the distance...

Visual feedback from a toy is something I REALLY have been missing. I'd LOVE some technology that allows him not only to control the toy and see me react but also see in a clear way how the toy vibrates on my body...Guess this is something that would make me feel more close - intimate despite the miles...hmmmm....

So keep up the good work and please update us soon! I really would love to own such a toy and test it out for me and my guy. Would you try to market it for LDRs too as Buetooth brands do?

YES!!!! I'm glad you asked. Based on the earlier responses to this thread and others, I have decided to include the interactive features on the first release! The launch product will be 100% interchangeable with the Lovense products.

I have been quiet on ACF lately because I have been working to incorporate this upgrade. Now, I'm excited that it is working well!

You may be one of the first to test it! I am working out the final details of my "Pioneer Program" that gets beta test vibrators into the hands of real world users ASAP. PM me so I don't forget to ping you when the program is set up (next couple of weeks). I will announce the Pioneer Program on ACF soon!

 

[missdoll]

Ummm I may look like a stalker but, since I didn't find a way to PM you here, I just sent you a message on Twitter...

soo curious about your project!

 

[missdoll]

YES!!!! I'm glad you asked. Based on the earlier responses to this thread and others, I have decided to include the interactive features on the first release! The launch product will be 100% interchangeable with the Lovense products.

I have been quiet on ACF lately because I have been working to incorporate this upgrade. Now, I'm excited that it is working well!

You may be one of the first to test it! I am working out the final details of my "Pioneer Program" that gets beta test vibrators into the hands of real world users ASAP. PM me so I don't forget to ping you when the program is set up (next couple of weeks). I will announce the Pioneer Program on ACF soon!

OMG I'm new and I don't see any option to PM you neither on your profile page!!! Perhaps I can't because I'm new? How do I do?