Where to move to live and work legally on the webcam

[Jaelka]

Hi!
My situation is that I am from Russia. Due to the recent events in the world, because of the eternal cold (when you can enjoy the sun only 3 months a year, the rest of the time it's wild cold and lots of snow), because of the constant depression that I just don't like the place where I live, because of the illegality of webcam - I want to move to another country. Also, I've been very paranoid lately because webcam is illegal in Russia and I don't want to end up in jail.

Yes, I understand you very well that you don't want foreigners in your countries, but we are all always in search of happiness and better conditions than the ones we live in now. So I want to live happily now too

I originally considered Asia (eternal summer, delicious food, beautiful nature and cheap life), but Asia is a Muslim region where pornography and webcam are forbidden, where at best you can get 20 years in jail (there was a model who streamed in Thailand and now she is in jail), at worst...but let's not talk about the worst, everyone understands that.

Since Asia has become an unattainable dream for long-term living and working, I started to look towards Europe. But not central Europe, but rather where there is the sea/ocean, where you can bask in the sun and eat plenty of fresh fruit and vegetables.

I am very much asking for your advice and feedback, information on how things are going in your country.
1. What is the attitude of the state towards pornography: how legal is it? How do you work in your country?
2. Taxes. Is it possible to work on a webcam and earn legally (i.e. pay taxes)
3. How expensive is it to live there and how fast is the internet: how much is it possible to rent a flat (not a dead room without air conditioning, but so that it is comfortable to live and work in this room), how good is your internet in the country and its price?

Об условиях переезда (и получения вида на жительство) спрашивать, наверное, не стоит, но если у вас такая же ситуация, как у меня, - поделитесь опытом?

Все, что вы можете мне сказать, очень важно, может быть, не только для меня, но и для других моделей, которые тоже хотят переехать в другую страну.

P.S. There really isn't much information on Russian forums, but I'd like to hear it first hand

Thank you! (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧

 

[Deleted member 67498]

You could consider joining a studio in Romania or similar places. But I don't know any detailed info about it. They should provide everything, clothes, food, place, internet, computer etc. But you have to be careful on the conditions. Someone told me rent was 300Euros.

I am streaming in France in the house of one of my followers, but came from Italy. I also couldn't find a place and was checking rent around. In general, rent in Europe (at least for Italy, Germany and France) is around 500Euros for single room with shared common areas or you can find an apartment for that price. Bills of 100Euros aren't included, and internet depends. They ask 2/3 months in advance which means you would need a budget of around 2000Euros. Grocery is 150Euros if you can manage well.

Or, you could consider going to Serbia, rent is really cheap, like 150Euros for single room and common areas, bills included. Only the first month is asked in advance, so the budget is 400Euros.

You need help for signing up internet on your own because they ask ID. Europe good internet is 30Euros/month, Serbia around 15...

And since you are a foreigner, you don't have to pay taxes. You should probably look for houses with unofficial rent or maybe get started with studio. Save money for travel expenses. Or, why don't you return to your family(?). You could maybe try to become an Au Pair or something. Good luck!

 

[mika_kedi]

And since you are a foreigner, you don't have to pay taxes.

That is not true. You have to pay taxes in the country you work and reside in everywhere in EU. Exact laws will vary in details between countries, but in general if it' a long term stay you do have to pay taxes where you work, if you don't as a foreigner you risk not only getting hit with hefty fines, but also deportation.

 

[Deleted member 67498]

Uhmmm, my stay in France isn't registered anyway and I have Eu passport so I will not have problems. I forgot to say to check how long they can stay in each country if they travel via bus etc. Usually, trains don't ask for ID, but if you don't have proper docs and get caught you will be brought back to your country. I know that, since I'm not reaching consistent 5k Euros in Italy per year, I don't have to sign up for taxes (I don't think there are docs available for foreigner's taxes or they aren't reliable as the main country's docs). However, always traveling isn't always good, that is why either you could get started with studio, or there is someone who can help you in other countries (friend/family) or consider other things like au pairing in your own country.

 

[Deleted member 67498]

If you consider going EU, let me make an example with me when I went to Serbia (it's my experience so it doesn't mean you have to take every step):
1. Check government website for docs needed and look for unregistered rent (much easier with a friend of Serbia)
2. Look for travel tickets and covid rules
3. Docs needed were only my EU passport (I also did covid test which was not needed in Serbia) but I had to register myself to the police within 24hours and got a Certificate after reaching the country
4. I could stay there for 3 months, but could ask for 6 months/1 year more and I needed: a. Health insurance, b. Passport, c. Photos of me, c. Reason to stay (work/family/study), d. Proof of earning and other docs I don't remember... In the end I only stayed 3 months.

Hope this will help you clear your ideas! I still think you should try asking for other jobs in your own country (also online but modeling) . I don't have family and friends (the Serbia one was an online amateur proofreader I worked with in BL translations and call as 'friend' for easier relationship labeling...), so I had no choice but to do things all by myself. I also considered choosing studio but still covid rules plus I have my style. Of course, still ask help if needed! In the end, I was able to find a place and am focusing on the next goal!

 

[anabeauty37]

Hi! guess u can not work on your own since u not european u cant do much .. u cant even open a bank account for example in Romania if you are not living legal here , and u can also have a number of days u can stay in Europe .

You could consider joining a studio in Romania or similar places. But I don't know any detailed info about it. They should provide everything, clothes, food, place, internet, computer etc. But you have to be careful on the conditions. Someone told me rent was 300Euros.

I am streaming in France in the house of one of my followers, but came from Italy. I also couldn't find a place and was checking rent around. In general, rent in Europe (at least for Italy, Germany and France) is around 500Euros for single room with shared common areas or you can find an apartment for that price. Bills of 100Euros aren't included, and internet depends. They ask 2/3 months in advance which means you would need a budget of around 2000Euros. Grocery is 150Euros if you can manage well.

Or, you could consider going to Serbia, rent is really cheap, like 150Euros for single room and common areas, bills included. Only the first month is asked in advance, so the budget is 400Euros.

You need help for signing up internet on your own because they ask ID. Europe good internet is 30Euros/month, Serbia around 15...

And since you are a foreigner, you don't have to pay taxes. You should probably look for houses with unofficial rent or maybe get started with studio. Save money for travel expenses. Or, why don't you return to your family(?). You could maybe try to become an Au Pair or something. Good luck!

as i know in Serbia camming isnt legal .and some sites dont accept models from Serbia.

 

[Jaelka]

If you consider going EU, let me make an example with me when I went to Serbia (it's my experience so it doesn't mean you have to take every step):
1. Check government website for docs needed and look for unregistered rent (much easier with a friend of Serbia)
2. Look for travel tickets and covid rules
3. Docs needed were only my EU passport (I also did covid test which was not needed in Serbia) but I had to register myself to the police within 24hours and got a Certificate after reaching the country
4. I could stay there for 3 months, but could ask for 6 months/1 year more and I needed: a. Health insurance, b. Passport, c. Photos of me, c. Reason to stay (work/family/study), d. Proof of earning and other docs I don't remember... In the end I only stayed 3 months.

Hope this will help you clear your ideas! I still think you should try asking for other jobs in your own country (also online but modeling) . I don't have family and friends (the Serbia one was an online amateur proofreader I worked with in BL translations and call as 'friend' for easier relationship labeling...), so I had no choice but to do things all by myself. I also considered choosing studio but still covid rules plus I have my style. Of course, still ask help if needed! In the end, I was able to find a place and am focusing on the next goal!

Thank you so much for sharing your experience!
I was given the idea the other day that it is possible to work in Cyprus and webcam is legal there.

Hi! guess u can not work on your own since u not european u cant do much .. u cant even open a bank account for example in Romania if you are not living legal here , and u can also have a number of days u can stay in Europe .

as i know in Serbia camming isnt legal .and some sites dont accept models from Serbia.

Strangely, Russian webcam forums say that webcam is legal in Serbia and you can stream from there without fear of being jailed.
Are you from Serbia?

 

[anabeauty37]

Jael, if you wanna live in Europe u cant do it without beeing European citizen, u have a number of days u can stay in.. For example in Romania u cant even open a bank account on your name if you are not a resident and u can be a resident only if someone hiring you or getting married here .. So yes an option is to move to Romania, we have a lot of sun :, and studios, and camming is legal . Maybe we can work togheter if you thinking about Romania . As Bunbun said, in Romania can hire you legal so u can stay, the studio pay taxes u getting ur part legal , and yes can give you place to stay in all bills paied . . i also give good traffic working with me wich is double win and i dont ask models to stay on cam more then 5 h a day, i know how hard is and we have a life too .. can pm me anytime

Internet in Romania is the best in all europe

 

[anabeauty37]

Thank you so much for sharing your experience!
I was given the idea the other day that it is possible to work in Cyprus and webcam is legal there.

Strangely, Russian webcam forums say that webcam is legal in Serbia and you can stream from there without fear of being jailed.
Are you from Serbia?

I am not but i was trying to colaborate wih some girls from Serbia ( talked on instagram) they said isnt legal there camming.. . maybe thats why not manny serbian models on cams.. I dont know exaclty ..

 

[Deleted member 67498]

Hi! guess u can not work on your own since u not european u cant do much .. u cant even open a bank account for example in Romania if you are not living legal here , and u can also have a number of days u can stay in Europe .

as i know in Serbia camming isnt legal .and some sites dont accept models from Serbia.

Oh, I didn't check whether camming in Serbia was legal or not but it's true I saw that Serbian people wouldn't be accepted in cam websites, but I have EU passport so I had no such problems. At that time I really needed a place so I took that straw, I wanted to try to help just in case the situation was desperate too. Obviously, things vary and uhmmm I forget to add things or am too lazy to be more specific. Thanks for sharing more info!

 

[Sashacurves]

Does anyone know of any resources/directories of which countries do and don't allow camming legally? I've thought about moving abroad or perhaps long-term travelling whilst camming but finding reliable info on where camming is legal seems really difficult. Then on top of that, (coming from the now non-EU UK) you have to consider visas and taxes... it's so complicated I've put off looking into it!

Even the whole Australian working visa thing which sounds like a great idea, I'm scared to apply or ask questions about it because I don't know what their response would be if I said I'm planning to come and work as a webcam model. There's so much shame and secrecy involved with this industry it sucks!

 

[Sunshineseeker]

I can only talk for Cyprus. As a non EU citizen you can apply for a residents permit a few different ways.

A: Show you are earning over €9000 a year so that you don't need to be employed here - this is the easiest way as you just set up as self employed in UK and bring proof of your online earnings as a UK tax resident.
B: Arrive as a digital nomad, pretty similar to the first example but with a higher required earning
C: Spend at least 100k on a property
D: Get sponsorship with a company. This is least likely as the company in question would have to demonstrate they've advertised to CY and EU citizens unsuccessfully for at least 1 month. Also they would need to give you a contract and guarantee your job for 1yr

I think (hope) what bunbun was saying before about not paying taxes was just that if you're already a tax resident somewhere else and can demonstrate that it's not necessary in the country you're living. For here it's fine for e now as i have private health insurance, but in future i will become a tax resident so i can get a mortgage and have national health service entitlement

 

[Sashacurves]

I think (hope) what bunbun was saying before about not paying taxes was just that if you're already a tax resident somewhere else and can demonstrate that it's not necessary in the country you're living. For here it's fine for e now as i have private health insurance, but in future i will become a tax resident so i can get a mortgage and have national health service entitlement

Presumably also a lot of other countries like Cyprus will have lower tax than the UK so it would be in your best interest to become a tax resident?

Which sites do you stream on? Is there an issue of lower traffic etc because of your location? And is that a pretty quick fix if you just get a VPN to pretend you're in the UK still?

 

[Ozzie_]

Even the whole Australian working visa thing which sounds like a great idea, I'm scared to apply or ask questions about it because I don't know what their response would be if I said I'm planning to come and work as a webcam model.

I am no expert believe me, but I am reasonably sure that our (Australia's) working visa is for people coming here to work in an actual job (not to run a business, which I think being an independent Cam model would be considered to be).

For example back-packers are (or were pre-covid) a huge part of the workforce in our hospitality and agricultural industries (also other unskilled or semi-skilled industries.) In fact it was (maybe still is) a requirement to get a 12 month (I think that is the length of time) extension to the visa one MUST work for a set number of days in the agricultural industry in a rural area. This is to help farmers in our smaller communities. This can be a great experience for the traveller but unfortunately in some rare (but not unheard of) cases women have been mistreated

But in truth it is a great country to live in and visit, although our Internet is not really up to what I imagine you'd be used to in UK, however in capital cities, it might be.

 

[Nienna]

Please follow up and let us know how you are doing! I have a model friend in Russia, and I am constantly worried her studio will be raided and she may be arrested. I wish you all the best! Stay safe!

 

[Smores]

Hi!
My situation is that I am from Russia. Due to the recent events in the world, because of the eternal cold (when you can enjoy the sun only 3 months a year, the rest of the time it's wild cold and lots of snow), because of the constant depression that I just don't like the place where I live, because of the illegality of webcam - I want to move to another country. Also, I've been very paranoid lately because webcam is illegal in Russia and I don't want to end up in jail.

Does anyone know what is the situation in Netherlands? Of course that is a country that seems to embrace sex workers and even goes as far as licensing them and giving them rights. It would be really twisted if they did not allow webcam work. Then again, I *never* see webcam models who claim to be broadcasting from Netherlands. So there must be obstacles there and I just have not looked closely.

It is so twisted that Thailand is some kind of sex capital, and openly tolerates sex workers in clubs, yet bans online workers who take less personal risk and spread less disease. How can there not be at least one country that openly welcomes webcam models? It's just perplexing.

 

[Nienna]

Does anyone know what is the situation in Netherlands? Of course that is a country that seems to embrace sex workers and even goes as far as licensing them and giving them rights. It would be really twisted if they did not allow webcam work. Then again, I *never* see webcam models who claim to be broadcasting from Netherlands. So there must be obstacles there and I just have not looked closely.

It is so twisted that Thailand is some kind of sex capital, and openly tolerates sex workers in clubs, yet bans online workers who take less personal risk and spread less disease. How can there not be at least one country that openly welcomes webcam models? It's just perplexing.

FWIW, I have come across a few models on CB whose profiles say they are from the Netherlands. (Actually "North Holland" specifically). Of course, what is said on a profile does not mean much. I agree with you, though, you would think that camming would be accepted, if not even supported, in the Netherlands.

 

[GraysonDrake]

I was given the idea the other day that it is possible to work in Cyprus and webcam is legal there.

I actually looked into this a while back, camming is 100% legal in Cyprus and I think they even have decriminalized other forms of SW as well. Cost of living seems lower than many parts of Europe as well and it's very pretty. I think also legal in Greece, so some of those islands would be worth researching as well.

Portugal would also be worth looking into, they're a pretty progressive country.

I've also noticed a lot of models streaming in Kazakhstan lately but I don't really know anything about the legality of camming there or how culturally accepted it is, but it might be worth looking into. It could potentially be easier to move there from Russia if the war ends up making it more difficult for you to get visas in other countries.

Don't come to America. You will have a really hard time getting visas and residency as a self employed cam model.

 

[Sunshineseeker]

Presumably also a lot of other countries like Cyprus will have lower tax than the UK so it would be in your best interest to become a tax resident?

Which sites do you stream on? Is there an issue of lower traffic etc because of your location? And is that a pretty quick fix if you just get a VPN to pretend you're in the UK still?

Yes the tax is lower, it's just I'm paying for my wedding at the mo so dishing out 2-3k to have a company set up isn't convenient. It's a later in the year job.

I don't use a VPN for any sites I'm on. I'm on SM, SC, MV and with the first 2 having British ID means I show up in the expected categories. A couple of years ago on streamate I showed as Cyprus but when I queried it they changed a setting for me and now their policy is ID based anyway.

The site that I did have a problem with was adultwork. They do not allow VPNs and they do check. Their placement is based on your physical location so over time as regulars naturally moved on my income there reduced. I've given it up all together now.

 

[Sunshineseeker]

Does anyone know what is the situation in Netherlands? Of course that is a country that seems to embrace sex workers and even goes as far as licensing them and giving them rights. It would be really twisted if they did not allow webcam work. Then again, I *never* see webcam models who claim to be broadcasting from Netherlands. So there must be obstacles there and I just have not looked closely.

It is so twisted that Thailand is some kind of sex capital, and openly tolerates sex workers in clubs, yet bans online workers who take less personal risk and spread less disease. How can there not be at least one country that openly welcomes webcam models? It's just perplexing.

There's at least one dutch specific site but also I believe there are a lot of German speakers in NL and there are deffo some German specific sites as well. Xcams is majority a Dutch audience so I would imagine a lot of Dutch models stick with those.

 

[Diana_Devil]

Strangely, Russian webcam forums say that webcam is legal in Serbia and you can stream from there without fear of being jailed.
Are you from Serbia?

Camming its illegal in serbia , i have 2 serbian cam girls friends. One of them almoast went to jail and have her children removed becase of camming!

The other friend went to Portugal to can finally live without fear .

 

[Diana_Devil]

Portugal would also be worth looking into, they're a pretty progressive country.

Yes this is one of the best choices as living costs /caming legality .

 

[Dannyhomebody]

Hi!
My situation is that I am from Russia. Due to the recent events in the world, because of the eternal cold (when you can enjoy the sun only 3 months a year, the rest of the time it's wild cold and lots of snow), because of the constant depression that I just don't like the place where I live, because of the illegality of webcam - I want to move to another country. Also, I've been very paranoid lately because webcam is illegal in Russia and I don't want to end up in jail.

Yes, I understand you very well that you don't want foreigners in your countries, but we are all always in search of happiness and better conditions than the ones we live in now. So I want to live happily now too

I originally considered Asia (eternal summer, delicious food, beautiful nature and cheap life), but Asia is a Muslim region where pornography and webcam are forbidden, where at best you can get 20 years in jail (there was a model who streamed in Thailand and now she is in jail), at worst...but let's not talk about the worst, everyone understands that.

Since Asia has become an unattainable dream for long-term living and working, I started to look towards Europe. But not central Europe, but rather where there is the sea/ocean, where you can bask in the sun and eat plenty of fresh fruit and vegetables.

I am very much asking for your advice and feedback, information on how things are going in your country.
1. What is the attitude of the state towards pornography: how legal is it? How do you work in your country?
2. Taxes. Is it possible to work on a webcam and earn legally (i.e. pay taxes)
3. How expensive is it to live there and how fast is the internet: how much is it possible to rent a flat (not a dead room without air conditioning, but so that it is comfortable to live and work in this room), how good is your internet in the country and its price?

Об условиях переезда (и получения вида на жительство) спрашивать, наверное, не стоит, но если у вас такая же ситуация, как у меня, - поделитесь опытом?

Все, что вы можете мне сказать, очень важно, может быть, не только для меня, но и для других моделей, которые тоже хотят переехать в другую страну.

P.S. There really isn't much information on Russian forums, but I'd like to hear it first hand

Thank you! (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧

Find wherever you can live and be successful as a cam model. Let me know where you are successful since I'm considering moving out of the USA to a say, more "webcam model respected place."

 

[Jaelka]

Джаэль, если ты хочешь жить в Европе, ты не можешь сделать это, не будучи гражданином Европы, у тебя есть несколько дней, на которые ты можешь остаться. Например, в Румынии ты даже не можешь открыть банковский счет на свое имя, если ты не являешься резидентом и Вы можете быть резидентом, только если кто-то наймет вас или женится здесь .. Так что да, вариант - переехать в Румынию, у нас много солнца: и студии, и веб-камера является законной . Может быть, мы могли бы работать вместе, если вы думаете о Румынии. Как сказал Банбун, в Румынии вас могут нанять легально, чтобы вы могли остаться, студия платила налоги, и вы получали свою часть легально, и да, она может предоставить вам место для проживания по всем оплаченным счетам. . я также даю хороший трафик, работая со мной, что является двойной победой, и я не прошу моделей оставаться на камеру более 5 часов в день, я знаю, как это тяжело, и у нас тоже есть жизнь ... могу написать мне в любое время

Интернет в Румынии лучший во всей Европе

Спасибо за ваш ответ! Но, к сожалению, работу в студии не рассматриваю (не вижу смысла платить большой процент студии за работу, могу предоставить свое жилье, работаю по своему графику, а не по 5 часов в день) ) или проживающих в Румынии. Я хочу поехать куда-нибудь более европейское, а...
Но если вариантов осталось не так много, возможно, мне придется переехать к вам, потому что для меня самое главное, чтобы веб-камера была легальной.

Я могу говорить только за Кипр. Как гражданин, не являющийся гражданином ЕС, вы можете подать заявление на получение вида на жительство несколькими способами.

О: Покажите, что вы зарабатываете более 9000 евро в год, чтобы вам не нужно было здесь работать — это самый простой способ, поскольку вы просто регистрируетесь в качестве индивидуального предпринимателя в Великобритании и предоставляете подтверждение своих онлайн-заработков в качестве налогового резидента Великобритании. .
B: Прибытие в качестве цифрового кочевника, очень похоже на первый пример, но с более высоким требуемым доходом.
C: Потратьте не менее 100 тысяч на недвижимость
D: Получить спонсорство с компанией. Это наименее вероятно, поскольку рассматриваемая компания должна будет продемонстрировать, что они безуспешно рекламировали свою продукцию гражданам CY и ЕС в течение как минимум 1 месяца. Также они должны будут дать вам контракт и гарантировать вашу работу в течение 1 года.

Я думаю (надеюсь), что банбун говорил раньше о неуплате налогов, это было только в том случае, если вы уже являетесь налоговым резидентом где-то еще и можете продемонстрировать, что это не обязательно в стране, в которой вы живете. Сейчас это нормально, так как у меня есть частная медицинская страховка, но в будущем я стану налоговым резидентом, чтобы получить ипотечный кредит и право на получение государственной медицинской помощи.

Спасибо за ваш ответ!
Я уже начала искать информацию о переезде на Кипр. Верно ли я предполагаю, что веб-камера там легальна?

Пожалуйста, следите за новостями и дайте нам знать, как у вас дела! У меня есть подруга-модель в России, и я постоянно беспокоюсь, что на ее студию ворвется и ее могут арестовать. Всего наилучшего! Оставайтесь в безопасности!

На самом деле, студии закрываются в России довольно часто. Каждые несколько месяцев (если не чаще) появляются новости о том, что полиция ворвалась в студию и всех увезла.
Что касается моделей, которые работают из дома, без студии, то такое случается нечасто. Но есть и новости (например, одна модель продавала свои фото/видео на ОФ, и как-то к ней приехала полиция и арестовала ее).
+ из-за новых законов работать становится все страшнее:
1. Невозможность платить налоги государству, так как невозможно правильно зарегистрироваться в налоговой инспекции для подачи декларации по налогу на прибыль
2. Веб-камера запрещена в России. Страх, что полиция может вернуться домой
Отношение горожан к моделям. 3. Многие думают, что это что-то на уровне проституции

Спасибо за заботу о нас) Надеюсь, все будет хорошо!

Я на самом деле изучал это некоторое время назад, веб-камера на 100% легальна на Кипре, и я думаю, что они даже декриминализовали другие формы SW. Стоимость жизни кажется ниже, чем во многих частях Европы, и это очень красиво. Я думаю, что это законно и в Греции, поэтому некоторые из этих островов также стоит изучить.

Португалия тоже заслуживает внимания, это довольно прогрессивная страна.

Я также заметил, что в последнее время в Казахстане стримит много моделей, но я действительно ничего не знаю о законности там вебкаминга или о том, насколько это культурно принято, но, возможно, на это стоит обратить внимание. Потенциально может быть проще переехать туда из России, если война в конечном итоге затруднит получение виз в других странах.

Не приезжайте в Америку. Вам будет очень трудно получить визу и вид на жительство в качестве самозанятой веб-модели.

Законна ли веб-камера и в Португалии?
Я наслушался про эту страну, говорят, там очень красиво и безопасно жить (преступлений мало).

О Казахстане: как и в России, веб-камера здесь запрещена. Правильнее было бы сказать, что законов, регулирующих веб-камеры, нет: они не запрещены и не разрешены. Но есть законы «о распространении порнографии», под которые вы уже можете попасть (особенно если вы продаете свои фото и видео).
Насколько я знаю, уровень жизни в Казахстане примерно такой же, как в России (если не хуже (никому не в обиду)), и уезжать в точно такую же страну смысла нет((

Я никогда не рассматривал США как место работы, стоимость перелета, сложности с получением визы и прочие особенности, которые меня не прельщают(
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Если в Португалии действительно разрешены веб-камеры, я тоже рассмотрю этот вариант)
Хотелось бы больше ваших постов про Кипр и Португалию

 

[Olive]

Does anyone know what is the situation in Netherlands? Of course that is a country that seems to embrace sex workers and even goes as far as licensing them and giving them rights. It would be really twisted if they did not allow webcam work. Then again, I *never* see webcam models who claim to be broadcasting from Netherlands. So there must be obstacles there and I just have not looked closely.

It is so twisted that Thailand is some kind of sex capital, and openly tolerates sex workers in clubs, yet bans online workers who take less personal risk and spread less disease. How can there not be at least one country that openly welcomes webcam models? It's just perplexing.

A really big webcam model on CB is streaming from the Netherlands (Siswet). And there's a couple of others. Definitely legal there. But I'd imagine that most in small countries like that (same with Denmark and Luxembourg) would not be advertising their location. I'd say that's the same for every country in the EU tbh (aside from some bigger ones, but even then..) that's like mentioning your state in the US. Some will be comfortable sharing that information but a lot won't be and will put in fake information or just not disclose anything.

 

[Alde]

Does anyone know what is the situation in Netherlands? Of course that is a country that seems to embrace sex workers and even goes as far as licensing them and giving them rights. It would be really twisted if they did not allow webcam work. Then again, I *never* see webcam models who claim to be broadcasting from Netherlands. So there must be obstacles there and I just have not looked closely.

It is no problem being a webcam model here in the Netherlands, no obstacles at all. However, I do have to correct that sex workers are being embraced. The licensing is not so much seen as being given rights, but more as being controlled (This the general opinion of sex workers themselves and a good fraction work unlicensed because of it). This licensing does not apply to camming, that is in no way a problem.

 

[Dannyhomebody]

Спасибо за ваш ответ! Но, к сожалению, работу в студии не рассматриваю (не вижу смысла платить большой процент студии за работу, могу предоставить свое жилье, работаю по своему графику, а не по 5 часов в день) ) или проживающих в Румынии. Я хочу поехать куда-нибудь более европейское, а...
Но если вариантов осталось не так много, возможно, мне придется переехать к вам, потому что для меня самое главное, чтобы веб-камера была легальной.

Спасибо за ваш ответ!
Я уже начала искать информацию о переезде на Кипр. Верно ли я предполагаю, что веб-камера там легальна?


На самом деле, студии закрываются в России довольно часто. Каждые несколько месяцев (если не чаще) появляются новости о том, что полиция ворвалась в студию и всех увезла.
Что касается моделей, которые работают из дома, без студии, то такое случается нечасто. Но есть и новости (например, одна модель продавала свои фото/видео на ОФ, и как-то к ней приехала полиция и арестовала ее).
+ из-за новых законов работать становится все страшнее:
1. Невозможность платить налоги государству, так как невозможно правильно зарегистрироваться в налоговой инспекции для подачи декларации по налогу на прибыль
2. Веб-камера запрещена в России. Страх, что полиция может вернуться домой
Отношение горожан к моделям. 3. Многие думают, что это что-то на уровне проституции

Спасибо за заботу о нас) Надеюсь, все будет хорошо!


Законна ли веб-камера и в Португалии?
Я наслушался про эту страну, говорят, там очень красиво и безопасно жить (преступлений мало).

О Казахстане: как и в России, веб-камера здесь запрещена. Правильнее было бы сказать, что законов, регулирующих веб-камеры, нет: они не запрещены и не разрешены. Но есть законы «о распространении порнографии», под которые вы уже можете попасть (особенно если вы продаете свои фото и видео).
Насколько я знаю, уровень жизни в Казахстане примерно такой же, как в России (если не хуже (никому не в обиду)), и уезжать в точно такую же страну смысла нет((

Я никогда не рассматривал США как место работы, стоимость перелета, сложности с получением визы и прочие особенности, которые меня не прельщают(
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Если в Португалии действительно разрешены веб-камеры, я тоже рассмотрю этот вариант)
Хотелось бы больше ваших постов про Кипр и Португалию

I'll admit it. I used a translator to read/see your response. I've been thinking about moving to Romania a lot lately. Thank you for this response. My fantasy is I'm working as a webcam model, and working in a factory in Romania for now. Will check responses to see how this is done, and will research outside the ACF to see how I can make this fantasy a reality.

 

[Smores]

Спасибо за ваш ответ! Но, к сожалению, работу в студии не рассматриваю (не вижу смысла платить большой процент студии за работу, могу предоставить свое жилье, работаю по своему графику, а не по 5 часов в день) ) или проживающих в Румынии. Я хочу поехать куда-нибудь более европейское, а...
Но если вариантов осталось не так много, возможно, мне придется переехать к вам, потому что для меня самое главное, чтобы веб-камера была легальной.

Я не уверен, осознаете ли вы это, но вы забыли перевести обратно на английский, прежде чем отправить свое сообщение. Вероятно, многие из присутствующих здесь участников никогда бы не потрудились перевести с русского на английский. Возможно, вы захотите опубликовать этот ответ на английском языке.

I just mentioned that the reply was in Russian and it might be better to translate it to English....

 

[Smores]

It is no problem being a webcam model here in the Netherlands, no obstacles at all. However, I do have to correct that sex workers are being embraced. The licensing is not so much seen as being given rights, but more as being controlled (This the general opinion of sex workers themselves and a good fraction work unlicensed because of it). This licensing does not apply to camming, that is in no way a problem.

So what would be the negatives of doing webcam modeling from home in Netherlands? I guess the big negative is a high tax rate, up to 50% of income?

The country is in between Germany and France and the UK, so it would definitely put you into the heart of Western Europe. It would be an interesting place to live for a few years if you planned to tour around.

Are there any webcam modeling studios in Netherlands?

 

[Nienna]

Спасибо за ваш ответ! Но, к сожалению, работу в студии не рассматриваю (не вижу смысла платить большой процент студии за работу, могу предоставить свое жилье, работаю по своему графику, а не по 5 часов в день) ) или проживающих в Румынии. Я хочу поехать куда-нибудь более европейское, а...
Но если вариантов осталось не так много, возможно, мне придется переехать к вам, потому что для меня самое главное, чтобы веб-камера была легальной.

Спасибо за ваш ответ!
Я уже начала искать информацию о переезде на Кипр. Верно ли я предполагаю, что веб-камера там легальна?


На самом деле, студии закрываются в России довольно часто. Каждые несколько месяцев (если не чаще) появляются новости о том, что полиция ворвалась в студию и всех увезла.
Что касается моделей, которые работают из дома, без студии, то такое случается нечасто. Но есть и новости (например, одна модель продавала свои фото/видео на ОФ, и как-то к ней приехала полиция и арестовала ее).
+ из-за новых законов работать становится все страшнее:
1. Невозможность платить налоги государству, так как невозможно правильно зарегистрироваться в налоговой инспекции для подачи декларации по налогу на прибыль
2. Веб-камера запрещена в России. Страх, что полиция может вернуться домой
Отношение горожан к моделям. 3. Многие думают, что это что-то на уровне проституции

Спасибо за заботу о нас) Надеюсь, все будет хорошо!


Законна ли веб-камера и в Португалии?
Я наслушался про эту страну, говорят, там очень красиво и безопасно жить (преступлений мало).

О Казахстане: как и в России, веб-камера здесь запрещена. Правильнее было бы сказать, что законов, регулирующих веб-камеры, нет: они не запрещены и не разрешены. Но есть законы «о распространении порнографии», под которые вы уже можете попасть (особенно если вы продаете свои фото и видео).
Насколько я знаю, уровень жизни в Казахстане примерно такой же, как в России (если не хуже (никому не в обиду)), и уезжать в точно такую же страну смысла нет((

Я никогда не рассматривал США как место работы, стоимость перелета, сложности с получением визы и прочие особенности, которые меня не прельщают(
-----------------------
Если в Португалии действительно разрешены веб-камеры, я тоже рассмотрю этот вариант)
Хотелось бы больше ваших постов про Кипр и Португалию

Thank you for the reply, but now I am even more scared for my friend. There are people out there that care about you! Please, stay safe.