What's the deal with models having someone type for them?

[Orange]

I'm aware it's against SC rules for someone other than the person streaming to type/PM viewers but every now and then I notice it

They will mark my PM as read and reply to it without touching the mouse or keyboard or will sometimes fake type with 1 hand while not looking

What's the deal with it? For example someone I seen tonight:

• They're not a new account
• I think they're a Studio (they have a VR cam)
• Their room is very quiet
• They speak English (but when I asked them in PM, the "person" said they didn't)
• They keep looking in 1 area of the room, probably for the cue to fake type (it's not the screen they're looking at)
• Previous streams they do type and talk with viewers

FWIW they're Eastern European

From a financial perspective it doesn't seem to make much sense and they clearly don't need the help since they speak English and are not a super active room

It kind of makes me think there is some nefarious reason behind it

Any thoughts?

 

[yummybrownfox]

I read the thread title in Jerry Seinfeld’s voice.

 

[Vixxen81]

My dude, even when I actually show people I am literally typing to them with my own two hands they're still like, "nah, that's not real." So I'm not going to put too much effort into this thread other than to say that and leave it at that. If you don't like it, move on. Or I guess be that guy who reports models for doing things that don't have much of an effect on being able to deliver a proper show.

 

[cbhours]

I'm aware it's against SC rules for someone other than the person streaming to type/PM viewers but every now and then I notice it

Havent noticed that rule but i dont do much with stripchat where did you see it?

 

[Hiunds]

I don’t think it’s against Stripchat rules for somebody else to type, but I’ve been wrong before

 

[Orange]

I'm quite sure I read the rule when I signed up a year or two ago but cannot find it in the FAQ

Perhaps it was removed? It's a common rule on cam websites as people are paying to talk to the person

 

[Ozzie_]

I'm aware it's against SC rules for someone other than the person streaming to type/PM viewers but every now and then I notice it

Umm.. no that is not correct as far as I know. I do not recall seeing anything that forbids a moderator or anyone typing for a model. It is, in fact, common practice with studio models especially if they have little English or are new to camming and still "learning the ropes" as it were.

What makes you think it is forbidden by SC?

FWIW they're Eastern European

It is worth nothing. A model's nationality is not important to the telling of this story.

From a financial perspective it doesn't seem to make much sense and they clearly don't need the help since they speak English and are not a super active room

If it was not something that they (and their studio) think is necessary and helpful, it would not be happening. You cannot know the reasoning behind it.

It kind of makes me think there is some nefarious reason behind it

Over-active imagination, or needlessly suspicious personality.
What possible nefarious reason could there be?

Any thoughts?

Yes.

You are over-thinking about something that is fairly commonplace, and harmless. Just obviously do not engage in any sexy-talk via PM, unless the thought of some guy moderator replying gets your motor running (and fair enough if it does, no judgement form me)

 

[Ozzie_]

I'm quite sure I read the rule when I signed up a year or two ago but cannot find it in the FAQ


Perhaps it was removed?

Nope, I have been using the site for 6 years or so and have never seen or heard of such a prohibition.

It's a common rule on cam websites as people are paying to talk to the person

On a cam-site, I am paying to *look* at a person

 

[misterical]

I don't know about Stripchat but Chaturbate can appear confusing at times because there's a 5 second delay which can make it seem like the model is delayed in her reactions. As a result the message appears before you see her type on screen, which might lead you to think that she's not typing in sync with what you are seeing. I'm pretty sure SC is more real time though.

Ultimately, if you ask for something, tip for it and receive it, what's the problem?

 

[Orange]

I'm sure I read it in their FAQ at one point but who knows - If they don't forbid it case closed, but it's kind of weird either way - going from actually typing and talking one day to not talking and having someone else typing

It's definitely not a delay issue, VR cameras show a much wider view so you can see their keyboard a lot of the time - they randomly mash keys with 1 hand just to make it appear they are typing. The non-VR cam will not show the keyboard fully so to everyone else it looks like they're typing

Maybe she wasn't hitting earnings targets and has help or something. Studios are known to be a roll of the dice, many stories of abuse from ex-studio cammers but also lots of good studios out there

Ultimately, if you ask for something, tip for it and receive it, what's the problem?

It's fine in that context but if someone else is typing more than the typical yes/no then it's pretty dishonest and weird especially when the actual cammer is capable of talking or typing themselves. Everyone uses 2-click translators these days

 

[MarieElise]

If you don't like it, move on. Or I guess be that guy who reports models for doing things that don't have much of an effect on being able to deliver a proper show.

Bump ^^^
Plenty models don't. If you don't like it stop whining and move on.
Life isn't fair. It's not about fair, it's about what the rules allow and don't allow.

I'm surprised there are many people left even willing to be cam models, given the frequency some of you moan and whine about the most petty and inane, irrelevant shit

 

[Ozzie_]

I'm sure I read it in their FAQ at one point but who knows - If they don't forbid it case closed, but it's kind of weird either way - going from actually typing and talking one day to not talking and having someone else typing

Yeah it sounds kind of odd, but I wouldn’t sweat it.

It's definitely not a delay issue, VR cameras show a much wider view so you can see their keyboard a lot of the time - they randomly mash keys with 1 hand just to make it appear they are typing. The non-VR cam will not show the keyboard fully so to everyone else it looks like they're typing

Yes, VR camera view shows many things both sexy and amusing

It's fine in that context but if someone else is typing more than the typical yes/no then it's pretty dishonest and weird especially when the actual cammer is capable of talking or typing themselves. Everyone uses 2-click translators these days

I wouldn't say dishonest, odd maybe. But again, not really important. Although I can understand a certain "unease" for want of a better word if one had been having many deep and meaningful conversations with the model. Anyway, chalk it up to experience and move on, or accept it and continue visiting that model if that is preferred. But do not raise the issue with the model, it is really none of our business how a model (and their studio) run a room unless unsafe or illegal things are happening.

 

[Vixxen81]

But do not raise the issue with the model, it is really none of our business how a model (and their studio) run a room unless unsafe or illegal things are happening.

Thanks for saying this. Just walk on by.

 

[Orange]

I appreciate the few genuine responses in this thread - some of the other replies are very, uh how to say, looking for drama

 

[Vixxen81]

I appreciate the few genuine responses in this thread - some of the other replies are very, uh how to say, looking for drama

And you think this comment isn't inviting drama?

 

[AmberCutie]

I appreciate the few genuine responses in this thread - some of the other replies are very, uh how to say, looking for drama

So far the only post doing so his this one.

It's a pretty common thing for studios to have operators that guide and type for the model. I am shocked that you're unaware of this. You seem so seasoned as a cam patron.

 

[NotYou]

I don't know about Stripchat but Chaturbate can appear confusing at times because there's a 5 second delay which can make it seem like the model is delayed in her reactions. As a result the message appears before you see her type on screen, which might lead you to think that she's not typing in sync with what you are seeing. I'm pretty sure SC is more real time though.

Ultimately, if you ask for something, tip for it and receive it, what's the problem?

For me, it;'s usually longer than 5 seconds. I think depending on the model, it can be anywhere up to about 20 or 30 seconds delay.
This is why I hate cam2cam on Chaturbate, it's almost impossible, because it gets confusing. She is saying something while I am talking about something else haha
Plus CB has the sound issue where we can hear ourselves, not sure how other places stop this happening, but it makes a huge difference, and yet CB still haven't caught up with this.

 

[AmberCutie]

For me, it;'s usually longer than 5 seconds. I think depending on the model, it can be anywhere up to about 20 or 30 seconds delay.
This is why I hate cam2cam on Chaturbate, it's almost impossible, because it gets confusing. She is saying something while I am talking about something else haha
Plus CB has the sound issue where we can hear ourselves, not sure how other places stop this happening, but it makes a huge difference, and yet CB still haven't caught up with this.

Reverb in cam to cam isn’t just a CB issue. U less a model wears headphones anything coming out of her speakers is bound to play back through her microphone unless she has an advanced noise gate setup.

 

[NotYou]

Reverb in cam to cam isn’t just a CB issue. U less a model wears headphones anything coming out of her speakers is bound to play back through her microphone unless she has an advanced noise gate setup.

Yes but (for example) on Stripchat I have never had this issue, so I am not sure what they use to prevent it.
But there must be a way, like how Skype and other services use.


Edit:
If I remember correctly, it also wasn't a problem on xlove, LiveJasmin and bonga when I used those.
I am not sure how common it is across other sites.

 

[misterical]

For me, it;'s usually longer than 5 seconds. I think depending on the model, it can be anywhere up to about 20 or 30 seconds delay.
This is why I hate cam2cam on Chaturbate, it's almost impossible, because it gets confusing. She is saying something while I am talking about something else haha
Plus CB has the sound issue where we can hear ourselves, not sure how other places stop this happening, but it makes a huge difference, and yet CB still haven't caught up with this.

I don't do cam2cam so haven't noticed it there but am long since used to hearing the double ping on tips. I've never noticed it as bad as 20-30 seconds though. The model I visit sometimes invites me to join another page if there is an interesting conversation taking place and that's when I really notice the difference because the other pages are often more real time and I end up with two out of sync streams.

 

[AmberCutie]

Yes but (for example) on Stripchat I have never had this issue, so I am not sure what they use to prevent it.
But there must be a way, like how Skype and other services use.


Edit:
If I remember correctly, it also wasn't a problem on xlove, LiveJasmin and bonga when I used those.
I am not sure how common it is across other sites.

I imagine it would depend on the models' mic/sound setups. Not necessarily site-wide.

 

[cbhours]

Webrtc (streaming directly from page not obs) has built in echo cancellation right? Many models still split cast to stripchat using virtual camera so perhaps that's the difference?

 

[Stella_SC]

Hello @Orange

Having someone help behind the scenes or type on behalf of the model is not a rule violation on Stripchat.

 

[lolabunny9]

Think about this real hard. Why do you think they do.
Do they really wanna be there
Are they drugged
Is it a pimp
OR
Is it really just easier for her to concentrate on herself fully for everyone in the show to enjoy. And have a man text you back instead of her.

 

[sailorcollins]

I asked one time if a model had someone else typing for them, it turned out that it was another model from the same studio helping them out since they were newer and didn’t speak English well. Pro tip - learn the language of the model you are talking to or at least use a translator app if you want to speak directly to the model.

 

[Iluvablow69]

Yes I have seen this a few times, especially in VR.
A model literally held her hands in front of her and pretended to type, just hands in the air.
No keyboard anywhere in site. From the normal camera it looked like she was typing, but the VR camera was somewhere different, off to the side.

I messaged her saying it was magical typing, she laughed, the typing person explained and laughed. Great times....
However, it didn't detract from the actual show.

Sometimes it's actually better someone else is typing so they do not have to keep stopping to reply to people.

 

[lolabunny9]

Yes I have seen this a few times, especially in VR.
A model literally held her hands in front of her and pretended to type, just hands in the air.
No keyboard anywhere in site. From the normal camera it looked like she was typing, but the VR camera was somewhere different, off to the side.

I messaged her saying it was magical typing, she laughed, the typing person explained and laughed. Great times....
However, it didn't detract from the actual show.

Sometimes it's actually better someone else is typing so they do not have to keep stopping to reply to people.

id rather talk to the girl and not some man runnin the typing as they lie and say it is a girl.... i know to many whose in this situation in studios

 

[Squinkle]

...but I actually type with one hand and I don't look at the keyboard. The other hand is often messy.

People are always telling me I'm not typing too, when I truly am. Most of us are typing for a good majority of the day. We are well practiced and fast at typing.

Just because you cannot look away and type with one hand, doesn't mean we can't do it.

 

[InannahQoH]

I'm aware it's against SC rules for someone other than the person streaming to type/PM viewers but every now and then I notice it

They will mark my PM as read and reply to it without touching the mouse or keyboard or will sometimes fake type with 1 hand while not looking

What's the deal with it? For example someone I seen tonight:

• They're not a new account
• I think they're a Studio (they have a VR cam)
• Their room is very quiet
• They speak English (but when I asked them in PM, the "person" said they didn't)
• They keep looking in 1 area of the room, probably for the cue to fake type (it's not the screen they're looking at)
• Previous streams they do type and talk with viewers

FWIW they're Eastern European

From a financial perspective it doesn't seem to make much sense and they clearly don't need the help since they speak English and are not a super active room

It kind of makes me think there is some nefarious reason behind it

Any thoughts?

I think you assume a lot.

1. I don't think its against any rules.

2. There is a stream delay.

3. Models often 1 hand type, and copy paste etc.. because hands get messy. And sometimes positions get awkward

4. You concern a lot about , where she is looking .. Do you assume she's using 1 monitor ?
I personally use overkill, and a computer + laptop + 7 monitors.

5. You say the room is quiet , so assume she is only using one room?
We usually stream to 5 platforms at the same time. + sometimes throw in app streaming at the same time + lots of other things to do.

+ We usually don't talk and type to viewers..
We talk and type for payments to payers..

Etc

 

[LaceyRoyce]

Any excuse to mention your monitors lol