What do you, as models, expect from regulars

[Sevrin]

but at the end of the day it's about money for a model & not friends so a model shouldn't let their feelings get hurt

So, at the end of the day, models should turn their hearts to stone and become one of those bitches we keep hearing about? That's easier said than done, and it's a very high price to pay. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

What is the price of experience? Do men buy it for a song?
Or wisdom for a dance in the street? No, it is bought with the price
Of all a man hath, his house, his wife, his children.
Wisdom is sold in the desolate market where none come to buy,
And in the wither'd field where the farmer plows for bread in vain.

It is an easy thing to triumph in the summer's sun
And in the vintage and to sing on the waggon loaded with corn.
It is an easy thing to talk of prudence to the afflicted,
To speak the laws of prudence to the houseless wanderer,
To listen to the hungry raven's cry in wintry season
When the red blood is fill'd with wine and with the marrow of lambs.

It is an easy thing to laugh at wrathful elements,
To hear the dog howl at the wintry door, the ox in the slaughterhouse moan;
To see a god on every wind and a blessing on every blast;
To hear sounds of love in the thunder-storm and destroys our enemies' house;
To rejoice in the blight that covers his field, and the sickness that cuts off his children,
While our olive and vine sing and laugh round our door, and our children bring fruits and flowers.

Then the groan and the dolour are quite forgotten, and the slave grinding at the mill,
And the captive in chains, and the poor in the prison, and the soldier in the field
When the shatter'd bone hath laid him groaning among the happier dead.
It is an easy thing to rejoice in the tents of prosperity:
Thus could I sing and thus rejoice: but it is not so with me.

The Price of Experience - William Blake

 

[bodisha]

So, at the end of the day, models should turn their hearts to stone and become one of those bitches we keep hearing about? That's easier said than done, and it's a very high price to pay. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.

Nope... that's not what I'm saying at all... but since this is a business a model should act professionally and develop boundaries in my opinion... i mean these girls are selling entertainment that's it... nothing more... on the surface it's wrapped up as sex... under the surface it can resemble companionship or friendship for many people... but at the end of the day it's about the number of tokens the girls make

being hurt that a member is spending more money on a different model doesn't seem professional to me... so instead of letting her feelings get hurt that a member is willing to tell her he's spending more money on a different model... this model could take this opportunity to figure out what the other model is doing and try to copy it... and in the process make the member happier with what shes providing and improve her income at the same time

i don't know if shes told him she thinks his behavior is inappropriate or not... i didn't get the impression she had... but it certainly sounds like it's been an on going issue she's had with him... trying to find a solution early on when she realized what he was doing bugged her is what i mean by developing professional boundaries... either by telling him she's uncomfortable with his actions or trying to find out what she can do to make him happier... The way i'm guessing this is going to play out right now... the guys going to go into her room and do something stupid he's done many times before and she's going to get fed up with it and hit him with a ban hammer out of no where.... Which to me is a lose/lose situation

at the very least it seems like a chance she could use to become more assertive and let her regulars know what she expects from them by publicly telling this guy his behavior isn't acceptable to her... and if he continues it... discipline him either by calling him out or hitting him with a ban... but to sit there and let him get away with it when it bugs her doesn't make any sense to me... no one wins

 

[Sevrin]

being hurt that a member is spending more money on a different model doesn't seem professional to me

No one is complaining about members spending tokens on other models, or anything else. But if they do, there's no need to discuss it. And the topic of this thread is "What do you, as models, expect from regulars?". Common courtesy is at the top of everyone's list.

 

[bodisha]

The most a model can reasonably expect is that regulars respect her as a person and go easy on the bullshit. Don't tip one model nickels and tell her you are broke and then go on a half-hour private with another. Also, if you care about a model, keep any personal information about her to yourself, regardless of how you obtained it.

This.

When I was on MFC I had a regular who was also a regular to a top model, he would tell me how broke he was and how he couldnt afford this or that and try to wheel and deal with me with videos and raffle tickets or whatever like I was a freaking flea market but consistently drop tokens in this models room, 1000's of tokens at a time. I knew that not all regulars would go to you and you only, and I was fine with that, but I didnt understand how he could say that stuff to me and drop over $100 a night with her. It was a dick move, in my opinion, on his part.

being hurt that a member is spending more money on a different model doesn't seem professional to me

No one is complaining about members spending tokens on other models, or anything else. But if they do, there's no need to discuss it. And the topic of this thread is "What do you, as models, expect from regulars?". Common courtesy is at the top of everyone's list.

Obviously i misunderstood your's point when you were mentioned the scenario "Don't tip one model nickels and tell her you are broke and then go on a half-hour private with another"... And Cassidy mentioned her own experience with it as an exaple of it

While you mentioned "go easy on the bullshit", perhaps this was meant as an example of courtesy rather than anything else and it was not clear to me

While I agree this is a dick move for a member to do... I still feel my point is valid that a model should not letting this situation hurt their feels

 

[JoleneBrody]

The member tipping another model did not hurt her feels. Being lied to and given the pity story did.
I don't care who you are or what your business is, being blatantly lied to is never acceptable and will ALWAYS piss someone off.

Her point... Don't talk about it or lie about it.
This is not intended as an attack on you but I dare you to dance around naked and expose your self for someone who lies on a daily basis about why he can't support the show he enjoys everyday. Until you are behind the cam doing what we do you have no right to judge our emotions.
If he never said anything about it and just went about his normal business I doubt she would have cared much.
I want to use an example outside of the cam world, then I will shut up, promise.

Say a person went to costco everyday just to eat the free samples and explained to every server that he's too poor to buy it, without being asked, but that he just loves the food so much.
All those servers are on break and see him come out of the grocery store across the street with two carts full, what do you think the reaction would be?
They would all be saying to each other "what the hell? That guys a jerk!" and they have the right to feel that way.

Sorry for the long post.

 

[Anonymous]

I don't think any model should let their ego's get bruised because someone was willing to spend more on a different model... Just like I wouldn't expect a business to get upset if a model shopped around, or had a preferred vendor, for snow tires

I think the point the other poster was trying to make is that it's lame for a guy to make excuses for not tipping, and then later that same night drop a 2,000 token tip in another model's room. This is what models are referring to when they say they don't like being bullshitted.

I had a guy make excuses for why he couldn't tip ("in the process of buying a new house"), yet he would talk about wanting to take me out to lunch sometime, wanting to send me a case of fruit in the mail, and wanting to pay one of my Sprint phone bills sometime. :lol: Um......

And pulling a RON569 and posting "BEST ON MFC BOO. NUMBA ONE STUNNA" on damn near every model's profile and chat. That's lame.

Or when a 20-point premium enters the room and says "I went premium just for you!," but he's clearly tipped the first 200 tokens to someone else and is down to 0 tokens. LOL. I appreciate the fact that you like me, but dude, stop lying......


One thing I'd like to add. Sometimes guys will blurt "I wish I could tip you, Fox, but....." You DON'T have to explain yourself. I know you guys aren't Daddy Warbucks and can't tip ALL the time. At least you're contributing to my chat by participating in good, friendly conversation and tipping when you can. So thank you for that. Those of you who participate in good conversation keep me smiling and keep me from going insane. LOL.

 

[RogueWarrior]

Thank you to everyone with relevant responses. I appreciate the time you have taken to answer honestly.

 

[DudeExtreme]

I have no expectations from them. Some guys I have a lil crush on, so of course I get slightly jealous. But I would NEVER say anything to them about it, and I'm realistic. I know they see other models, just like I see other customers. I have a few die hard fans that claim they only looks at me. That's pretty flattering, but not necessary.

Well, you know you are not the only model I've seen, but out of all my tips I've given, you get 97% or higher of them. You are the only one I've been in private with on MFC and def the only one I've Skype with. With the name MegansDude, you know where I stand. Yes I am proud to be a die hard fan. :-D

 

[MissKlass]

I ask of my regulars that you visit when you can, contribute to the conversation, and when you can tip, do it. Even when it's 5 tokens.

I'm serious. I have been slightly perplexed by some members who see larger tips in my room and announce that my room is "out of their league". Now, I have never, ever, scoffed at small tips. In fact, I make it pretty clear (through "thank yous" and smiles) that all tips are good tips in my room. I am kind of miffed when members do that, because it implies that I'm a cold, ungrateful person. If you can only afford 1 token that day? Great, I would be thrilled to have it. If I'm busting ass in a super awesome show and all you have to show your appreciation with is 1 token, I'm happy. It lets me know that you appreciate the entertainment I'm providing. I'm never that model who rolls her eyes because you tipped 10 tokens. I'm grateful for all of it, and it all adds up. The message here is don't be all embarrassed because you aren't a mega tipper. Most models appreciate the smallest of tips and understand that you guys aren't all Warren Buffet.

Also, I would love the following things to become common knowledge:

1. Being a regular doesn't mean you should make requests without tipping. It's still rude.
2. Being a regular does not give you a pass to barter with me over my prices. It's insulting.
3. Please don't come into my room, watch me struggle, then announce that you just dropped 1000 tokens on what's her face, and you are now out of tokens. Not only does that make us feel like crap, but it's really effing tactless.
4. If you're going to hang out in my room but can't/won't tip for whatever reason, don't freaking tell me about it! I don't want to know that you just parked in my room for 2 hours with no intention to tip. Keep it to yourself and just socialize.
5. Please stop telling me how to run my show. Unless you are a seasoned cam girl, your advice is not needed and it comes off as condescending; it says to me "Hey, you're clearly not doing a good job here, so let me tell you how you should do it."

 

[ChandraChicky]

I ask of my regulars that you visit when you can, contribute to the conversation, and when you can tip, do it. Even when it's 5 tokens.

I'm serious. I have been slightly perplexed by some members who see larger tips in my room and announce that my room is "out of their league". Now, I have never, ever, scoffed at small tips. In fact, I make it pretty clear (through "thank yous" and smiles) that all tips are good tips in my room. I am kind of miffed when members do that, because it implies that I'm a cold, ungrateful person. If you can only afford 1 token that day? Great, I would be thrilled to have it. If I'm busting ass in a super awesome show and all you have to show your appreciation with is 1 token, I'm happy. It lets me know that you appreciate the entertainment I'm providing. I'm never that model who rolls her eyes because you tipped 10 tokens. I'm grateful for all of it, and it all adds up. The message here is don't be all embarrassed because you aren't a mega tipper. Most models appreciate the smallest of tips and understand that you guys aren't all Warren Buffet.

Also, I would love the following things to become common knowledge:

1. Being a regular doesn't mean you should make requests without tipping. It's still rude.
2. Being a regular does not give you a pass to barter with me over my prices. It's insulting.
3. Please don't come into my room, watch me struggle, then announce that you just dropped 1000 tokens on what's her face, and you are now out of tokens. Not only does that make us feel like crap, but it's really effing tactless.
4. If you're going to hang out in my room but can't/won't tip for whatever reason, don't freaking tell me about it! I don't want to know that you just parked in my room for 2 hours with no intention to tip. Keep it to yourself and just socialize.
5. Please sttop telling me how to run my show. Unless you are a seasoned cam girl, your advice is not needed and it comes off as condescending; it says to me "Hey, you're clearly not doing a good job here, so let me tell you how you should do it."

^ THIS. Oh my god this.



I also think that basics who make excuses for two-three months at a time are just kind of lame. I try not to mute basics in my room because I have a few that are pretty cool, and I've converted a few to coming over to the dark side and eating our lovely MFC cookies. But really, don't just show up every night and leave a bajillion twitter messages about how 'oh baby I can't wait for your show' when you know you have zero intention of ever tipping. It's not that I don't like some of my basics. I just don't like the ones that want shit for free and try to get all of my attention while my paying premiums deserve it. I don't know. Maybe that sounds bitchy, but I really like Jolene's grocery cart scenario.

Also, in retrospect. 'MFC cookies" sounds so, so wrong...

 

[IsabellaSnow]

It depends what a regular expects from me.

If a regular expects loyalty, friendship, one on one time, long chats/getting to know me more personally then yes I do expect the same from him.

If a member barely even talks to me, tips me, chats in the room a bit/a bit in pm and then goes, then as much as I'd love him to only tip/visit me that would be ridiculous!

As has been pointed out I don't like being told that a member is tipping someone else. Some members are totally clear with the score, that they will rotate their tokens etc, so I'm just glad that I'll get some out of it, but for me to be ok with that then they have to just ask for stuff and really those kinds of people I don't really like loitering in my room every single night. They can chat to me, be a friend of a type, but they've chosen to distance themselves.

I have a member who once openly admitted that he tipped a girl 1500 tokens, which was more than he'd ever tipped me in one go. It did upset me as she hadn't even been online in over a week and it was just before he at least halved what he tipped me saying he couldn't afford it. We were good friends, talked a lot, he was always in my room, so it more felt like a betrayal of friendship especially as I started doing very badly and that extra tip would have made such a big difference. I wish he hadn't told me really because I did get jealous, especially as I was struggling and she was raking it in. In this situation it made me feel that he didn't care about me, and if you're expecting friendship from a model you do have to give it back.

I had a time recently when a guy who's not tipped loads in my room but used to always say "ooohh I'll get some videos when I get paid/have money" and would take up time in pms. Eventually after I swear he debated it for a week he said "Yes! I have money for tokens so I can now buy your vid!" My vid was 200 tokens, he bought 900, I thought, awesome! tipped 200 tokens, stayed in the room, carried on sending me pms, as I noticed "huh... his tokens are going down....." It was clear he was tipping other girls at the same time, all the tokens disappeared.
I did get semi curious and asked if he'd gone private with someone. He said no, he'd bought another girls videos, apparently a random model who in fact didn't send them to him.
Pretty much every time I'd go online (as in not in my room but just on the homepage) he'd try chatting to me, then he started bitching about how this model had banned him because he asked where the videos were.
It really pissed me off. He freeloads in the room loads, he was going on and on about tipping so yes, I had thought he might tip a little more, at least buy more than one video! and then when I was offering vids/a show he decided to tip a random model instead. I explained why I wasn't sympathetic and why I didn't want to know and that it was his own fault. He was like "oh, I thought we were mates" Well if we were friends, then he would have wanted to help me out.

Fact is members seem to expect the world from models. You want us to be warm and kind, funny, intelligent, beautiful, witty, lively, friendly (those are just the standard and can mean different things to different people), you want us to come up with creative things to do on cam, you want us not just money grabbing and want to spend time with you for more than tokens, you want our friendships and our sexual pleasure to be real, you want us to have super good quality cam, lighting and streaming, you want us to be good at dealing with trolls, and to make you feel good in the room, you want our personalities to be real, loads of you want details into our lives or one and one chat time and friendship, plenty of guys want us to enjoy looking at their sexual organs, you want us to be thankful of every tip we get, even if it's a couple of pence, the list goes on and on!!
In fact, these are all things that most members expect from us, the competition on mfc is high, so models are pushed to be all these things not even including whatever particular fetishes they perform/what they do in their rooms/their individual personalities, if you look at most models (not all) who are successful however different they are they will probably be giving off these vibes.

To be perfectly honest, I don't really see why if a member is expecting so much of me I shouldn't expect/hope for a bit of care, consideration and loyalty. Members say "Well it's ridiculous for a model to expect a member not to go into and tip in another models room (jeeze if they're not even tipping in other girls rooms it means they're freeloading, and I don't like that much more!)" Well is it ridiculous? It depends, many men I guess like the whole thing with mfc that you can go from room to room enjoying many different women.
It's like I've never got mens desires to go around sleeping with so many different women, I mean sleeping around is one thing and no strings sex, but surely when you find someone really good in bed you'd want to do it again. But for many guys it's "that was really really good! Now what's next?" If I'm sleeping around it's because I'm horny but not finding what I want/enjoy, not because I'm enjoying sleeping around.

I'm also not going to ditch a close regular the second his tokens run out, I might be a bit upset/miss the tipping, and I'll be forced to turn my attention towards other tippers, but it doesn't mean I don't care, I do expect the same consideration.

 

[helloabbylee]

I hope my regulars don't get mad at me for being slow replying PM ..or not messaging them when they come up.
I have someone who tips me regularly and if i dont msg him he'll tip me and say no tip=no love....or "i can get ignored by girls in my city for free!"
lol well it's kinda of funny but it scares me when he gets mad at me. :crybaby: