What do want your members to do about trolls?

[IsabellaSnow]

Hehe your "awful troll" - "fun troll" made me smile!! fun troll's so cute lol

 

[AmberCutie]

When doing a bit of research for my post, The origins of "troll" , in internet forums anyways were posts designed to only elicit responses from "newbies" I think we can all agree the meaning has moved far away from that good natured banter

I agree it's not good natured at all. Not now, at least, but I've never known it to mean anything good. I've heard the usage of the word in much less predatory fashion (the Rick Roll being one that comes to mind, being that it's posted to mildly annoy or embarrass someone, not to hurt them necessarily).

Wikipedia says this:

In Internet slang, a troll is someone who posts inflammatory,[2] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community, such as a forum, chat room, or blog, with the primary intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[3] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[4] The noun troll may refer to the provocative message itself, as in: "That was an excellent troll you posted."
While the word troll and its associated verb trolling are associated with Internet discourse, media attention in recent years has made such labels subjective, with trolling describing intentionally provocative actions and harassment outside of an online context. For example, mass media has used troll to describe "a person who defaces Internet tribute sites with the aim of causing grief to families."[5][6]

Which seems all very negative to me.

A couple from Urban Dictionary

1. Internet Troll
A person whose sole purpose in life is to seek out people to argue with on the internet over extremely trivial issues. Such arguments can happen on blogs, Facebook, Myspace and a host of others.
The best thing you can do to fight an internet troll is to not answer..or report them.

3. Internet Troll
A person who feeds off the anger of others as he enrages them over the internet.

By the way, I don't feel like we are arguing here, just general discourse of terminology. Hope no one (especially you, batman) thinks I'm trying to prove any ridiculous point. It's just my opinion that the usage of "Troll" is a good way to identify a certain type of behavior on the Internet and I don't think it ever had a positive meaning aside from the Treasure Trolls.

Looks like Nord has the same feeling as me.

It goes way before that, and I'm not really familiar with "bugging a newbie" as what was ever generally called an internet troll. Internet trolls probably began with USENET...which was the first type of service for internet discourse, years before the WWW was even conceived. Back then, and now, a troll was a lonely cretin who most likely lived alone, and had no offline friends; who was bitter about his own life and found a perfect outlet for hurting other people and groups by subscribing to newsgroups and doing his best to disrupt conversation, often beginning as a "friend," attempting to create alliances then picking on individuals who they recognized as someone who was a good contributor. They'd often say things like, "I agree with what you're saying but it CONCERNS me that..." then slowly launch into something that would be the exact opposite by the time he was done. Their agenda were to disrupt, abuse and ultimately destroy an entire discussion group. They were never truly good natured.

 

[sweetiebatman]

I would never argue with the boss Amber :thumbleft:

Naww not at all, Its just something that has always irked me and i thought i'd post it. Troll is a byword for internet idiocy but there is so many levels now, theres some horrible "trolls" on MFC

 

[Jupiter551]

Sure, I was kinda just referencing a flurry of "what does girl want me to do when x happens" posts.

I can do almost anything I want in the rooms I am a regular in, but I do not think I should. I would not have gotten in trouble for cussing a random troll out, but the repercussions that could have fallen on the model worried me. I thought ignoring the troll was the right thing to do, but doing it felt wrong. Since I have ready access to a large collection of friendly models I decided to ask. Every model is different, but I wanted to hear other opinions to get a general feel for things. If people asking models questions greatly offends you, then maybe you should avoid Ask-a-Model! in the future.

I wasn't offended in the slightest Shaun_, nor was I specifically talking about your post or your actions. I was merely questioning the assumption that members who watch webcams as paying customers should concern themselves with always acting as the camgirl would like in an ideal setting. Do you walk into your local gym and ask your personal trainer how he or she would prefer you handle it if another customer says something snarky to the personal trainer? Or what their preferred course of action is when another member refuses to wipe sweat down off a station?

The specifics are different and the dynamic is too but the fundamental principle is the same - should a paying customer really have to concern themselves with what the model thinks of their actions - assuming the customer's actions are reasonable.

Anyway, whatever I just noticed a few of these posts around and was commenting on them.

 

[Shaun__]

The specifics are different and the dynamic is too but the fundamental principle is the same - should a paying customer really have to concern themselves with what the model thinks of their actions - assuming the customer's actions are reasonable.

I am a paying customer, but I am also friends with several models. I am not concerned about what Mrs. JuicyHotMommaSquirtMasterBlaster69OneCupTwoDogs thinks of me, but I try not to take advantage of the things my friends allow of me. I am a guest in their rooms, and try to respect their wishes.

 

[bob]

this is starting to sound a little like trying to answer the question "what should you think about before you post?"

i figure if you're thinking at all, it'll be fine :lol:
i stop myself from posting sometimes, unsure of the clarity or acceptability or actual intent....i feel foolish sometimes....sometimes the words are just right....sometimes not....sometimes i think of the model and her day....sometimes i write to everybody, trying to be the bucket and not the drop.....

sometimes it's perfect...sometimes i wish i could have the words back :whistle:

sometimes i felt like a troll....sometimes my white stallion has kicked in just the right way.....i've been PM'd by a model who i know and like, telling me 'enough', (both nicely and with anger) and PM'd by them telling me to say something.....i've given hugs on a model's bad days when all i am is another freeloader, and added words like "stunning" to tips on a model's good days, when the words aren't really necessary.

don't we all have examples of these kinds of things?

 

[CharlotteXO]

I just like to be a smartass to them and if they don't take the hint, I'll kick them out or just block them for a day or so.

 

[lurkylurk]

Trolling is also a fishing term. It's when you bait hooks, put them in the water, then drive the boat around pulling the hooks behind you to see what will bite. It seems like a similar behavior to what trolls do in chat rooms.

 

[Always_Tim]

If you really feel the need to let her know you support her, send her a quiet PM or mail that reinforces that the trolls mean nothing and that you love her. Or better yet, a tip with a sweet tip note.

Yes, I've certainly felt the need to send a message of support to a model when she's visibly upset. But 99% of the time the model isn't going to be upset, just annoyed, and will deal with it just fine on her own.

Troll mocking is condoned, if I am doing it myself.
If I am not, (say in the middle of a show) I may perfer to quietly ban.

Good to know your thoughts on this. I generally keep my mouth shut unless I'm very sure what an individual model's stance is on this topic.

Mocking the trolls can be fun sometimes. But not if members overdo it.

Follow my lead. Don't make your own. Remember that trolls sometimes are baiting the members as much as the model.

Yes, definitely! I think a lot of the worst trolls have learned that it's easier to get a response from premiums (especially the regulars in a room) than it is from the models.