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Maybe it interferes a bit but CSH passes over. And mass recording continues. And the only result is problems for MFC models to remove their videos.
Do not hurt a grizzly bear if you are not able to kill him!
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You are in safety my new friend with all your fine sarcastic words. I see that you have no new arguments so I'm glad.
MFC must have protected their models by all means rather than pretending to be innocent. In such a business! LOL!
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Considering you didn't grasp any of the ones made before making any new arguments would be an effort in futility.
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The guy has stated that he will never really delete anything at all. He might make videos unavailable right now for some sites but there is zero reason to assume that it will stay that way. Let cb or any other site change anything that he doesn't like and they'll be online again. It has happened in the past, there is absolutely no sign this guy is in any way trustworthy.
Blocking anything is clearly only an imperfect thing but it is better than nothing.
Blocking anything is clearly only an imperfect thing but it is better than nothing.
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So how blocking IP addresses make the site hosting stolen copywriten material harder remove when the model sends a dmca takedown? Does it effect their delete button?
Also what bear? All I see is a worm getting squished and squirming for dear life.
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DMCA requsts don't work for them. I have discussed it a lot with DMCA Agency in private.
You aren't MFC model so maybe have no feelings of the problem. And streamate free shows aren't recorded by CSH. It may be changed oneday.
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MaePeach
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CSH is responsible for the dmca takedowns being ignored. CSH is choosing to ignore dmca takedowns from MFC models because of MFC counter measure.
It's CSH that has basically said "we won't acknowledge takedowns for MFC models bc MFC put up this counter measure and now we are mad" and yet here you are. Still trying to make it out like MFC is the bad guy in this situation.
No.
The site hosting recorded shows and ignoring takedown notices from models on MFC, that site it's the problem. Not MFC.
You're jumping through a lot of hoops
It's CSH that has basically said "we won't acknowledge takedowns for MFC models bc MFC put up this counter measure and now we are mad" and yet here you are. Still trying to make it out like MFC is the bad guy in this situation.
No.
The site hosting recorded shows and ignoring takedown notices from models on MFC, that site it's the problem. Not MFC.
You're jumping through a lot of hoops
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You are right in common. I agree that CSH delete nothing, only remove from their pages. But any webcam site does'n't delete models acoount and their content too. Only makes it invisible. It all may be returned in a second. In our world information storage are very cheap. So only control of accessing to the content.
Or large Russian nuclear bomb on Amsterdam's data centres.
Blocking that MFC tryes doesn't work. It is a problem!
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Thanks to all for interesting discussion. I've grasped common verdict here.
Have a nice day!
Have a nice day!
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i do have feelings towards it, because i see how it creates problems for them. i have seen sites like these do ridiculous harm. it's because i have the incredible superpower called EMPATHY.
also the only thing as a free show on streamate is a $0 gold show and those aren't popular anymore. it would only effect like twelve people. all shows/nudity must be in paid. so have fun recording endless hours of freechat with some boobs here and there.
and the reason dmca don't work because csh chooses to not adhere to the law. they don't work because csh decides not to cooperate. i'm curious, what did this "dmca agency" advise you of and what planet they are from?
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TRANSLATION: I came here appearing to be JUST enough on "your side", in a very ill-fated attempt to get a bunch of people on my side of this argument. Clearly it hasn't worked, I'm still viewed as a piece of shit for what my site does, and so I'll leave now.
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I admit I wasn’t all the way convinced he’s owner of CSH, I figured just one more sketchy and deluded person. But calling this scammy site grizzly bear took away all doubt.
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For all here.
It should be made clear that I am not CSH owner or affilated with CSH team. They always act openly - look at CSH twitter.
I only want to help MFC models to remove videos from CSH site.
And I say to MFC and CSH - "A plague on both your houses" !
It should be made clear that I am not CSH owner or affilated with CSH team. They always act openly - look at CSH twitter.
I only want to help MFC models to remove videos from CSH site.
And I say to MFC and CSH - "A plague on both your houses" !
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Lintilla
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What would MFC gain from negotiating with terrorists? And if their efforts weren't effective, CSH wouldn't be crying so hard.
So.
Zzz.
So.
Zzz.
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Lintilla
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They can't prevent it, and so... they should be what otherwise amounts to willing participants? Nah. They should not negotiate with terrorists. Cry more.
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For a long time CSH offers to MFC full control on all recorded videos including removal - absolutely free. CB and Bonga had it. MFC intead of getting one started pointless war. MFC created CSH "terrorism".
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Read CSH site and their twitter - my only source of information. And I can see recorded videos of NFC models. MFC can disturb not prevent. MFC could get full control on all videos if stop this war. Just as CB and Bonga.
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Lintilla
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I don't think you're smart enough to argue with.
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Lol just stop. You aren't convincing anyone. This fraudulent site is choosing to do this because they don't like the changes MFC implemented to protect their and their model's copyright.
This isn't a war. This is a theif not getting their way and trying to gaslight people. (Very poorly)
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Lintilla
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I can't discern any meaning from this sentence, sorry.
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Your mistake is that you believe that guy. There is no reason to do that. If cb and bonga do "anything" he doesn't like, it will all be back. So should any camsite ask for this guy's approval first? You cannot seriously consider that as an option.
As far as I know there has not been a single model who does not support that mfc does not give in to his threats.
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Lintilla
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Ok, so. Argue intelligibly, then. Or just stop defending CSH. Etc. (Gosh, why would you do that)
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That's just ridiculous. All this shit.
The site that posts a recorded public shows with no right to do so, claims to be offended by MFC strategy.
How crazy should anybody be to defend this shitty site and call out MFC for "starting a war"? Dunno.
This stuff (recordings and postings with no permission) is pretty much illegal.
The site makes money literally out of nothing. It's a parasitism, not a content creation.
And now somebody is still trying to convince us that MFC is the enemy because they don't want to get along with so-called "terrorists" from the world of camming.
I. can't. even.
It's insane from head to toe.
Now we (cam-sites, models or altogether) have to get along and negotiate with people that steal our content. Seriously?
Such. a. wrong. turn.
The site that posts a recorded public shows with no right to do so, claims to be offended by MFC strategy.
How crazy should anybody be to defend this shitty site and call out MFC for "starting a war"? Dunno.
This stuff (recordings and postings with no permission) is pretty much illegal.
The site makes money literally out of nothing. It's a parasitism, not a content creation.
And now somebody is still trying to convince us that MFC is the enemy because they don't want to get along with so-called "terrorists" from the world of camming.
I. can't. even.
It's insane from head to toe.
Now we (cam-sites, models or altogether) have to get along and negotiate with people that steal our content. Seriously?
Such. a. wrong. turn.
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Help MFC models by purchasing their content. Those free videos don't mean shit if people are supporting the models they enjoy watching.
That is what you can do as viewer. Stop making stupid arguments and go pay your favorite cammodel.
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