Using music on CB

[Elmar]

Hello everyone! Wishing you all a great day!

I have a question that’s been on my mind. A few times during streams by other models, I noticed they play well-known music tracks in the background. Isn’t this prohibited on Chaturbate due to copyright issues? Or do those models somehow indicate that they have the rights to play the music?

This situation seems even more puzzling considering what happened yesterday: I uploaded a video (for sale) to one of my accounts where I used an electronic track that I composed myself. However, upon upload, CB removed the audio from the video, mistakenly assuming I had used copyrighted music.

It feels strange that copyrighted music can apparently be played openly during streams, but even original compositions can’t be used in uploaded videos. Any thoughts?

P.S. I’m aware that electronic compositions are often mistakenly attributed to other authors on various platforms, as they frequently include small standard patterns that may also be used by other creators. I’ve encountered the same issue when uploading videos to YouTube. However, this doesn’t answer the question about using copyrighted music during other models’ streams.

 

[cbhours]

From chatgpt:

The difference in treatment between copyrighted music in live streams and recorded content typically comes down to licensing agreements, enforcement practices, and the nature of how content is consumed.

1. Licensing Agreements

Live Streams: Platforms like Twitch, YouTube, or Facebook often negotiate blanket licenses with rights holders (such as music labels) that allow users to play copyrighted music during live streams. These licenses may cover the real-time performance but not the storage or on-demand replay of the content.

Recorded Content: When content is recorded and stored, it can be replayed indefinitely, potentially generating long-term revenue or views. This requires a separate license for synchronization or mechanical rights, which are often not included in live-streaming agreements.


2. Enforcement Practices

Enforcement for live streams is more challenging because the content is ephemeral and often disappears once the stream ends (unless saved). Rights holders may not see significant value in chasing down live infringement.

Recorded content, however, is easier to monitor and enforce. Platforms can use tools like YouTube's Content ID to detect and manage copyrighted material in stored videos.


3. Revenue Models

Live streams generate revenue in real-time through subscriptions, tips, or ads. Rights holders may see this as less threatening or have mechanisms to collect royalties for live usage.

Recorded videos, on the other hand, can continue to generate revenue over time through ads or monetization, and music rights holders often demand a share of these long-term earnings.


4. Content Longevity

Live streams are considered transient; the audience experiences the music in a moment, similar to a public performance.

Recorded content has permanence, allowing the music to become part of a creator's product, requiring a higher level of rights management.


In summary, live-streamed music is often covered under specific licenses or goes unenforced due to its temporary nature, while recorded content requires broader licensing because it represents a long-term use of copyrighted material.

 

[Elmar]

Thank you for your response. Am I correct in understanding that there is no prohibition on using someone else's music in streams on CB?

 

[cbhours]

Thank you for your response. Am I correct in understanding that there is no prohibition on using someone else's music in streams on CB?

Not that I'm aware of but I've heard of situations in the past where they don't want you to display the artist/song name.

 

[Vixxen81]

Not that I'm aware of but I've heard of situations in the past where they don't want you to display the artist/song name.

And ads...ads will get you flagged for copyright stuff. The fun thing is OF doesn't care about music in content.

 

[punker barbie]

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[cexmental]

This is an interesting discussion because CB appears to have changing stances on copyright infringement. It seems to fall on the individual moderator reviewing your warning. They allow one top model to show a fireplace video on her TV, but as I am actively modding, a very small independent model received a warning for the same content. I've seen the same thing happen for TV news stations, TV shows, etc. I've also read that sometimes they send warnings if your stream/chat displays the song title currently playing. I once received a warning for being alone in my password protected room, with the cam off, as I was actively testing my new bot (lol). I have more examples, but the point is CB is inconsistent and you should use your best sense of judgement. Posting here for clarification and experiences was a great 1st step.

Based on the current state of CB, they aren't likely to say/do anything for music playing in your stream. Just be cautious of other copyrighted content, people talking in the background, etc.

Final thought... They do not allow music in your video content due to copyright, but make no effort to create a CB audio library of copyright/royalty-free tracks models could use.

Good luck and have fun,
Cexmenal

 

[Elmar]

I just found out that you’re not allowed to display song titles. That’s a bit odd. So, using someone else’s song isn’t the issue - the real problem is admitting it’s someone else’s!

Anyway, I don’t really feel like taking the risk and using songs.

 

[Vixxen81]

I just found out that you’re not allowed to display song titles. That’s a bit odd. So, using someone else’s song isn’t the issue - the real problem is admitting it’s someone else’s!

Anyway, I don’t really feel like taking the risk and using songs.

I've streamed music every broadcast for almost 12 years, never once received a warning.

 

[Elmar]

Good news! In that case, it’s all good. I just don’t want to risk getting banned. I actually enjoy lesser-known tracks (underground techno), so I think the risks are pretty low.

 

[Vixxen81]

Good news! In that case, it’s all good. I just don’t want to risk getting banned. I actually enjoy lesser-known tracks (underground techno), so I think the risks are pretty low.

If you don't quote people/reply to them directly your posts will be missed. Just a forum hint.