UNAUTHORIZED STREAM OF PICTURES FROM MY CAM SHOW ON GOOGLE

[­Allotrion]

Hello! I am a very new model, I have not even registered as a verified model on the forum yet. I have found a stream of pictures from one of my shows on google search, on a website called [site name banned*10]. I even have the authorization legal notice on the bottom of my show on chaturbate, so is there anything I can do to get this removed? I have contacted the website it is posted on with no response. I have also contacted chaturbate...with no response. HAS ANYONE EVER HAD THIS PROBLEM?

I was having so much fun camming, it sucks that this happened because now i am uncomfortable

 

[Ann_Sulu]

Re: UNAUTHORIZED STREAM OF PICTURES FROM MY CAM SHOW ON GOOG

Hello! I am a very new model, I have not even registered as a verified model on the forum yet. I have found a stream of pictures from one of my shows on google search, on a website called [site name banned*10]. I even have the authorization legal notice on the bottom of my show on chaturbate, so is there anything I can do to get this removed? I have contacted the website it is posted on with no response. I have also contacted chaturbate...with no response. HAS ANYONE EVER HAD THIS PROBLEM?

I was having so much fun camming, it sucks that this happened because now i am uncomfortable

Sorry you had this happen, but in truth, it happens to all of us all the time. You can ask you site to take down the content through DMCA (Don't do it yourself, or you can have your name tied to it!!!). If this really bothers you, then I stress that you really should think about doing another form of work, as the internet does tend to make things you may want quiet, famous.

 

[­Allotrion]

Re: UNAUTHORIZED STREAM OF PICTURES FROM MY CAM SHOW ON GOOG

Yeah your right, I was assuming it would happen to me I just didn't think it would happen so....quickly. Its good to know I am not alone.

I emailed support@chaturbate with a request for assistance in filing a DMCA report. I guess we will see what happens. It has definitely been confusing trying to figure out how to file an appropriate DMCA report without using my legal name.

The website must have BANNED my IP address, because after foolishly sending them a complain letter instead of a formal request, now i get a big red FORBIDDEN page when I try to access the site.

Any advice in this process please send it my way.

 

[eclipse76]

Re: UNAUTHORIZED STREAM OF PICTURES FROM MY CAM SHOW ON GOOG

I've found your picture and the website you're referring too, but that picture is just the tip of the iceberg.

The people behind this record all the public shows from MFC and Chaturbate. Many of the models of ACF have their public shows on these websites.

What they do is:

• Record the public shows streams
• Upload the screencaps to [site name banned*10]
• Publish the screencaps and a link to the video on various cloned forums/website

All of this is likely to be automated.

The link is processed by an URL shortener (pip.bz) which I assume, make them money doesn't seem to be the case. Same for the video, they are uploaded on upstore.net, only available to people who pay for downloading, so it's likely they get a small commission for this too.

The real link you need to get taken down is the video on Upstore. I don't know if Chaturbate is handling DMCA requests in the name of model. They aren't known for answering their mail quickly.

I'm not sure it's actually worthwhile to get all of this taken down.

 

[justjoinedtopost]

Re: UNAUTHORIZED STREAM OF PICTURES FROM MY CAM SHOW ON GOOG

tl;dr Apologies for length. It was meant to be written, not read. Additionally, it may wander slightly off topic. I give two f*cks. Proceed at your own risk.

I've found your picture and the website you're referring too, but that picture is just the tip of the iceberg.
...
I'm not sure it's actually worthwhile to get all of this taken down.

I pm'ed OP about the vids the other day; I was very hesitant to mention it openly on this forum. Sites like this really irk me. Allow me to elaborate...

I paid for no porn for about 15-20 years. Everything I watched was "free". Until last summer, when I ran across a model (let us call her D) who I simply had to see more of. Looked around, found everything of hers I could and it wasn't enough. Wound up watching her cam as a guest for a while, and that still wasn't enough. Now I often find myself digging through the sofa cushions for change so I can buy more tokens.

Well a few nights ago, I was watching D as she had a slow night. I did my part, and as the show wrapped up I gave her my last few tokies with a sincere "Thanks, great show." It thrilled me to death that the night ended with me listed as one of her top 3 tippers (yes, I was third, and this was on a slow night mind you). So I have officially admitted to being a complete loser, but I don't care. It was a good night for me. For one brief moment, this small fish managed to wriggle his way right into the big-time.

One of the first things I looked for while digging around on the website OP mentioned was D's vids, and of course, her show from the other night is there. If it was just being offered up for free, that would have been mildly bothersome to me; the fact that it is available only to premium Upstore users elevates it to positively irritating . This site has annoyed both the fan and the leech in me.

Now that I have watched models I am fond of suffer through spells where the only tips they could get was performance suggestions from beggars, I am no longer comfortable with the idea of downloading recorded shows. But if I was going to, I certainly wouldn't go to this shite website. There are much better places to go hunting for content.

As someone who has expressed a desire to be a “professional”, OP should probably be more uncomfortable if this is the ONLY website that is offering their content. If this is the case, then unfortunately, OP is just a nobody. Well, perhaps not a nobody, but at least an everybody. There is nothing remarkable about having vids of one's booty fall into the hands of those like the good folks associated with [site name banned*10]. In fact, if you are going to get on cam, it appears to be damn near unavoidable.

But OP should not be discouraged by this relative obscurity. Work on the shows, work on the profile, and I am sure that in no time there will be torrents dedicated solely to OP's work zipping around the globe like crazy. With a little luck, someone may see it and be so impressed that they think “I must go give this individual some of my money.”

Do what you can to get your content removed, but don't stress too much about it. What you really need to be worried about is making sure people get your goddamned name right. Put a small overlay in the corner with your username, or even have it up on a big freaking poster in the background, I don't care. Something so I don't have to spend a month digging around, wondering “Who the hell is this!?”

I even have the authorization legal notice on the bottom of my show on chaturbate

As a profile junkie, let me tell you what I see when I read these notices; I see a person getting ready to jump into a swimming pool, desperately clutching a towel in the hopes that it will keep them dry. If you feel you must have this notice, try to make the rest of your profile interesting enough that it goes completely unnoticed. Here is an example, one of my favorite profiles...

http://profiles.myfreecams.com/Miqote

Do you see how well she hides the utterly pointless legal notice? Me too.

And here is another good one (I know the background image causes some readability issues, but try to focus on the content)...

http://profiles.myfreecams.com/WickedTouch

You read something like this, and you feel like you have met a really interesting person. You want to know more. Profiles like these can make you want to stick around.

Now if I stumble into a room where the profile consists of nothing more than a ridiculous DMCA copypasta, then I might give you five minutes. Unless you are Romanian or start twerking like you have a jackhammer shoved up your ass, then I am outta there.

At any rate, welcome to showbiz OP. Glad to have you aboard. Now put a link to your CB profile in your sig for God's sake.

</bloviate>

 

[Jimmy9]

Re: UNAUTHORIZED STREAM OF PICTURES FROM MY CAM SHOW ON GOOG

The general rule is that if you put anything on the internet it will be there forever, especially if it involves nudity. You can put watermarks on your videos or try to get them removed but as long as the content exists on a single persons computer, it could always come back. The only time you should really worry about unauthorized content is if you feel like you're losing money because of it or if it's hurting your image in some way. Having videos of public shows online isn't really different from having lurkers in your room.

That being said, if you're really worried about having your content online, there are sites that you can sign up for that will automatically find your images and videos and send DMCA requests to get them removed, so you may want to look into that.

 

[AnneDVille]

Re: UNAUTHORIZED STREAM OF PICTURES FROM MY CAM SHOW ON GOOG

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but... Hell will freeze before upstore deletes anything or complies to any DMCAs.

That is all.

Carry on.

 

[RubyMia]

Re: UNAUTHORIZED STREAM OF PICTURES FROM MY CAM SHOW ON GOOG

Ugh. Just found myself on there from my first show... I knew this would happen just not automatically like that.

Is it less likely to happen in a private show? Or inevitable no matter what?

 

[AnneDVille]

Re: UNAUTHORIZED STREAM OF PICTURES FROM MY CAM SHOW ON GOOG

Ugh. Just found myself on there from my first show... I knew this would happen just not automatically like that.

Is it less likely to happen in a private show? Or inevitable no matter what?

Pretty inevitable. A lot of the public shows are on auto-record. So it doesn't really matter what you're doing in them. (I think it does depend on time of day and number of people in your room... but don't quote me on it).

In terms of privates... depends on who you do them with I guess.

Personally, I stopped looking for myself weeks ago in order to preserve my own sanity. :mrgreen:

 

[RubyDimples]

Re: UNAUTHORIZED STREAM OF PICTURES FROM MY CAM SHOW ON GOOG

I'm sorry this happened, but like the other girls mentioned its almost inevitable. When I first started to cam online, I wanted to try and make things work by maintain g the utmost privacy with my cam shows. Truth is you will get screen capped, and people will always record shows. I'm not saying this acceptable by any means, but its ALWAYS going to happen if you choose to be a cam girl. You've done exactly like your suppose to do and should be proud of the fast action you took.

 

[AmberCutie]

Re: UNAUTHORIZED STREAM OF PICTURES FROM MY CAM SHOW ON GOOG

Personally, I stopped looking for myself weeks ago in order to preserve my own sanity. :mrgreen:

I recommend this to anyone who doesn't have very good reason for needing to keep their content secret (legal/stalking/life or death scenario type reasons, which would actually suggest the girl should stop camming, though) because it's so inevitable and never ending. It's really not worth the headache of trying to combat it. I wholeheartedly believe that the possible small fraction of income that could be lost from content being capped and posted is negligible in the big picture. It is entirely possible that girls who are constantly trying to keep up with it lose more money in time spent dealing with it than revenue lost from people watching free instead of buying it.

 

[GreatDane]

Re: UNAUTHORIZED STREAM OF PICTURES FROM MY CAM SHOW ON GOOG

What Amber said, and something to think about... Make sure your cam name is visible on the screen in some way to possibly garner those people that see the clips in case they wish to find you to actually see you live and possibly tip. Advertising one way or another can't hurt.

 

[eclipse76]

Re: UNAUTHORIZED STREAM OF PICTURES FROM MY CAM SHOW ON GOOG

Hate to be the bearer of bad news but... Hell will freeze before upstore deletes anything or complies to any DMCAs.

That is all.

Carry on.

Are they hosted outside the US? Otherwise, if they're not complying with DMCAs, and with all the copyrighted content they are hosting from MFC, it could be interesting for them to sue?

 

[eclipse76]

Re: UNAUTHORIZED STREAM OF PICTURES FROM MY CAM SHOW ON GOOG

Ugh. Just found myself on there from my first show... I knew this would happen just not automatically like that.

Is it less likely to happen in a private show? Or inevitable no matter what?

These guys are not capping private or group, they probably just get the public stream.
The ones capping private and groups are actually in the group or private white doing it, it's not automatic.

TL;DR, according to my knowledge:

• Public shows:
  • available in HLS stream in both Chaturbate and MFC, easily recordable automatically
• Private and Group show (and with password on Chaturbate)
  • not available in HLS stream, but only through RTMP protocol
  • RTMP streams are secured with a "secret handshake" by MFC, so you can't record them automatically (unless someone has found out how to do that, but I'm not aware of it).
  • The only way I know to do it is:
    • Using a software which detects RTMP connection on your computer and record the incoming video feed. You need to establish the connection 'lawfully', i.e. be in the Group/Private show while doing this.
    • record your own screen (screengrabber software)

So yeah people can record your group/privates, but they need to be in it in the first place.

 

[SomeRandomDude]

Re: UNAUTHORIZED STREAM OF PICTURES FROM MY CAM SHOW ON GOOG

What is weird about this is that I know of one -- precisely *one* -- camgirl who's been able to remove her videos from Upstore. She didn't tell me how she did it, and afaik she hasn't told anyone else. I hesitate to divulge her nick (seeing as how Juju exists, ahem), but she was a prominent public-show performer (before the MFC crackdown on such activities).

I suspect she simply paid more money to the site's operators than they'd make from new subscriptions from people dying to dl her vids... Would be cool to know for sure though (everything about the camming world intrigues me greatly).

 

[Jimmy9]

Re: UNAUTHORIZED STREAM OF PICTURES FROM MY CAM SHOW ON GOOG

I also know of a model who got her videos removed from Upstore. She uses cammodelprotection.com though so I assume they're the ones who handled the removals.

 

[MayaEden]

Re: UNAUTHORIZED STREAM OF PICTURES FROM MY CAM SHOW ON GOOG

I also know of a model who got her videos removed from Upstore. She uses cammodelprotection.com though so I assume they're the ones who handled the removals.

Their FAQ says they operate globally, maybe that's why they're so efficient then.

 

[punker barbie]

Re: UNAUTHORIZED STREAM OF PICTURES FROM MY CAM SHOW ON GOOG

Yeah your right, I was assuming it would happen to me I just didn't think it would happen so....quickly. Its good to know I am not alone.

I emailed support@chaturbate with a request for assistance in filing a DMCA report. I guess we will see what happens. It has definitely been confusing trying to figure out how to file an appropriate DMCA report without using my legal name.

The website must have BANNED my IP address, because after foolishly sending them a complain letter instead of a formal request, now i get a big red FORBIDDEN page when I try to access the site.

Any advice in this process please send it my way.

Chaturbate would never ban an account for submitting a DMCA request. We hired www.Guardlex.com and www.DMCA.com to help with take downs. If you havent received a response from support feel free to email me directly Shirley@Chaturbate.com.

 

[thenoobgirl]

Re: UNAUTHORIZED STREAM OF PICTURES FROM MY CAM SHOW ON GOOG

Yeah your right, I was assuming it would happen to me I just didn't think it would happen so....quickly. Its good to know I am not alone.

I emailed support@chaturbate with a request for assistance in filing a DMCA report. I guess we will see what happens. It has definitely been confusing trying to figure out how to file an appropriate DMCA report without using my legal name.

The website must have BANNED my IP address, because after foolishly sending them a complain letter instead of a formal request, now i get a big red FORBIDDEN page when I try to access the site.

Any advice in this process please send it my way.

Chaturbate would never ban an account for submitting a DMCA request. We hired http://www.Guardlex.com and http://www.DMCA.com to help with take downs. If you havent received a response from support feel free to email me directly Shirley@Chaturbate.com.

Any luck with this? Shirley I emailed you too. Very similar situation.