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Not sure if this has been discussed in depth I couldn’t find much in search so thought I’d start a thread...

The new “porn ban” meaning needing age verification in the UK (giving personal details out or having to use a VPN to access all adult sites) starts on July 15th... not much information is out there about it apart from news stories... the government haven’t given us much to go on

How will this affect sites such as MFC and chaturbate?
Apparently any adult site not in compliance will be completely blocked in the UK which leaves thousands of models at a loss! I’m very worried for my job right now.

Any way we can find out what’s going to happen? If not are there back ups?
So close to leaving this damn country...
 
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Thank god someone else brought this up, I've also been wondering about this.

I know viewers would need age verification, but what about clip producers and camgirls? We'd have already been verified by the websites that we work on... would that be enough or would we need "double" verification? I've tried camming with a VPN but it just disconnects all the god damn time so I've given up using one.

Might have to bite the bullet and buy a fucking "porn pass" from a shop. 🤬
 
God, I totally forgot about this and had no idea when it was coming up! I think there is supposed to be something where you can enter details and get all adult sites unlocked rather than entering details into each and every adult site. Honestly I imagine that if this is the case, guys will do so. Let's face it. They're not going to start buying porn DVD's. People won't like it because of stuff like info leaks, but it's like apps on phones. They ask for insane amounts of access and yet people still click it because the app is convenient. Guys will think with their dicks. I doubt MFC is going to drop the UK as a whole supplier so I imagine if there is something they need to do to grant people access then they'll do it.

I wonder if it'll affect the amount of guests and basics in the rooms though. Partially as some of them may be underage, and also because those particularly unwilling to put their details in might disappear from the porn world. One thing I would like is that we wouldn't have to worry so much about underage viewers. Now if only they cared so much about sites which allow illegally capped videos of models and pornstars or people's girlfriends etc to be put up for profit without ever having the model identification on file. Talk about a recipe for potential child porn. Oh wait... I was assuming they actually care about children being exploited rather than a desire to control the sexuality of people and shame them for watching porn. My mistake.

Edit to add: Just looking into it now their original "ideas" of how to verify age are clearly not going down. Every site? Wtf? And how long does that even take? And a 24 "pass" for like a fiver?! Wtf? Who does that money even go to? Kind of annoys me the idea that a dude would pay a fiver for a wank if forced but wouldn't send it to the model/performer. This looks like such a recipe for disaster. Though I imagine it may create more loyalty to certain sites if people don't want to browse multiple sites putting in their ID over and over again. They might feel happier using one particular trusted site than many. I also wonder if people will start downloading content, whether buying actual clips or downloading for free. Does pornhub do downloads? A quick look it seems no?
Urgh, honestly it's going to be annoying for my own porn watching as really I watch it so rarely and usually it's pretty casual. Not necessarily worth going through the hassle.
Basically they've made it as difficult as possible, because it's not about "the kids", it's about them being prude.
 
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If people start using VPNs to get around the ban (which they very likely will), and if Chaturbate is affected by the ban... with the way that VPNs work, they connect to an IP from a different country, which means that any settings that models have in terms of blocking countries will be affected. So, if you have England blocked, but someone from England uses a VPN and say an American IP address, they'd be able to view your cam. This is a pretty big problem and there are SO many other privacy concerns.
 
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The Uk also blocked access to torrent sites..... it had no affect since these blocks are so easy to bypass. Personally I dont see it being an issue.
Side note: Could be a good time to get set up on a VPN affiliate program and make some extra $ off the porn ban
 
In order to block porn, you have to collect and look at all network traffic. That way you can categorize the traffic, social media, piracy, messaging, militant, guns, dating, lesbian dating, gay dating, porn, gay porn, trans porn, abortion, cancer, aids, penis pills, extra.

And the porn pass, means they can attach all that traffic to specific person.
 
What gets me is they haven’t been very clear on how it works or anything which is extremely worrying... we have barely any information on it or how our data is going to be used. I’m signing up for a VPN for sure
 
What gets me is they haven’t been very clear on how it works or anything which is extremely worrying... we have barely any information on it or how our data is going to be used. I’m signing up for a VPN for sure

As far as I know, they haven't been very clear about how anything works because they have absolutely no clue themselves. Which is... also fairly worrying.
 
As far as I know, they haven't been very clear about how anything works because they have absolutely no clue themselves. Which is... also fairly worrying.

Pretty much this. I don't want to paint the older generation as a whole as not entirely understanding technology because there are plenty of people out there who are very tech savvy who didn't grow up with it, but, unfortunately there seem to be a lot of issues surrounding those who are in positions of power and authority not understanding technology and then making laws on it. I know someone for example who went on jury duty where certain texts were misunderstood by the judge because they did not understand text speak. This can obviously pose as a huge issue where people are perfectly competent at jobs they've been doing well for years which suddenly now need a certain level of understanding. It's like politicians often try to get involved in "science" and basically misunderstand and talk a load of nonsense which does more harm than good because they just don't understand how it works. In the case of the porn ban it's like people have agreed that there needs to be some kind of block, yet haven't got enough understanding of the internet to know how to put it in place.

I guess an example of this being, they are making this ban because "research" (I term this loosely because the survey company used has come up with some questionable results before) has found that most children first come across porn by accident. Ok, that's a problem. But, making a porn ban is likely not going to change this as pop ups, ads and probably places like twitter and social media are the main culprits of seeing unwanted porn and the ban only covers sites where porn is the majority of their site. So essentially it's actually stopping those specifically looking for porn. Ok, so in theory making everyone identify themselves every time they try to access porn isn't the worst idea. But in reality the issues with data leaks in entering a copy of your ID and even taking a photograph to every site are pretty serious.
And oh wait, getting a VPN is so easy that a teenager could easily do it themselves? Like, we're talking about kids who have grown up playing with iphones. If a horny dude in his 60s can do it, so can a horny 13 year old. I mean fuck, I learned basic code at 10 and coded my own website and built a computer at like 11/12. I was wayyy more tech savvy at that age than I am now. Also, how hard really would it be to gain access to your parent's wallets and take photos of all their cards and ID's. If the verification sites delete all the info and never make contact then that'd be so easy to trick.

Like, if they were going to do something like this then they need to know exactly what they're doing, because this is just a mess and a blatant attack on porn rather than anything to do with helping children. If they cared that much then they wouldn't have fought so hard to try and keep having topless girls on "family" newspaper covers.

It's not the first time in the UK that they've gone after porn. Remember when face sitting and squirting became illegal in videos?
 
Omg this shit keeps coming and then getting delayed. I have basically tried to stop worrying about it now cos I keep getting freaked out and then it doesn't happen. Though obviously burying head under sand isn't necessarily the best thing to do but its better than being constantly totally freaked out for nothing I guess.
LOL at it being delayed because the UK failed to inform the EU.
 
So glad it’s been pushed back! It’s a huge relief

It's only a relief *for now*. If it is still going to happen, you will go through the same things/problems/questions as if it was happening in 1 month.
Although, with that said, maybe with them pushing it back they may think more and be able to get a lot more things answered and sorted.
 
Does pornhub do downloads? A quick look it seems no?
Yes, you can download videos on Pornhub. You can also disable downloads on your individual videos or set a download fee if you're on the model payment program. On xVideos, they can download a SD version of the clip, or if using xVideos.RED they can download the HD version of the clip, where you make a bit more $ than just a regular view.
 
I actually feel kind of bad for the new age verification companies that started up because of it. Though I also feel they're a bit like vultures trying to jump in and take advantage and make money off other people's content and websites, at the same time kind of messed up for the government to request these start ups and then mess them around. Also even more clear than ever from that article just how little the people organising this actually know about the internet. As I mentioned before, kids "stumbling" across adult content is more likely to be from pop up ads on non porn sites, viruses or social media sites. None of which are being targeted for the ban. Like, I don't think I have ever "accidentally" come across pornhub or MFC without searching something very clearly porn related. Maybe instead they should be putting their resources into better child controls for parents etc to use which automatically block such sites, and maybe even have policies where parents are more legally responsible in making sure they implement these blocks.

This kind of reminds me when a friend's dog got out and was caught worrying pregnant sheep. He was fuming on facebook because the farmer had come round and given him a warning to say that he'd have to shoot the dog on site if he saw them doing it again. I pointed out that this was pretty standard and that dogs chasing sheep can be really serious, especially when they're pregnant. He said that the farmers should invest in better fences.
What is really easiest, the dog owner getting a decent fence for their own dog around their small garden and making sure that their dog is under control, or every single farmer investing in giant fences around every single field they own and making sure there are zero gaps ever?
While it's a very different scenario, it's the same kind of problem.
 
This kind of reminds me when a friend's dog got out and was caught worrying pregnant sheep. He was fuming on facebook because the farmer had come round and given him a warning to say that he'd have to shoot the dog on site if he saw them doing it again. I pointed out that this was pretty standard and that dogs chasing sheep can be really serious, especially when they're pregnant. He said that the farmers should invest in better fences.
What is really easiest, the dog owner getting a decent fence for their own dog around their small garden and making sure that their dog is under control, or every single farmer investing in giant fences around every single field they own and making sure there are zero gaps ever?
While it's a very different scenario, it's the same kind of problem.

My border collie lived on my grandpa's farm and while he no longer had livestock, he rented out his pasture to other people's sheep. The dog would see sheep and start chasing them, so he got a mule to keep in there with them, and the mule kept the dog out. It was miles easier than installing a fence the dog couldn't get through, especially such a smart breed.
 
I wonder if ambercutie.com will end up behind the paywall.
Reddit has porn, so will it be behind the paywall too?
 
My border collie lived on my grandpa's farm and while he no longer had livestock, he rented out his pasture to other people's sheep. The dog would see sheep and start chasing them, so he got a mule to keep in there with them, and the mule kept the dog out. It was miles easier than installing a fence the dog couldn't get through, especially such a smart breed.

That's pretty clever and way better than a fence, though realistically, collies can easily be trained not to chase sheep. I had a collie and grew up around farms. He was once caught as a pup doing it, but as an adult he knew not to. I think in general people should aim to be responsible for their own dogs/children/whatever. It's just easier to do things on a more personal basis rather than creating big "catch all" preventative methods. Preventative methods are obviously important and can act as deterrents, but they're pointless if they're not going to do the job they're supposed to.

I guess the issue is with this they're claiming it's to protect those accidentally finding porn, while admitting that those looking for it will easily be able to get through the bans. But the only people this is really targeting is those deliberately looking for porn. But meanwhile there are plenty of movies, magazines, newspapers etc which are easily accessible in the UK which have highly sexual content. They're the sorts of things your parents or older siblings might watch/read without even thinking about it. I do agree that children should be protected from exposure to certain things, but I don't get how it's ok for kids to see glorified James Bond raping Pussy Galore or a pair of massive tits in a family newspaper, but God forbid they come across an ad for livejasmine showing a camgirl looking insanely bored. I think as a teen I only once or twice came across sexual content accidentally, once some spam advert and another time I remember accidentally going to a page with drawings of the simpsons with no clothes on. I mean, mildly disturbing yes, but in shock I quickly closed the pages both times. I was more worried that I'd done something wrong than caring about the images, and I was far more "damaged" by watching certain films and tv with casual sexualisation of women.

Anyways, it's not a discussion about the silly policy. I'm glad it's been pushed back a bit as I'll probably be camming again from July/August.
 
Reddit has porn, so will it be behind the paywall too?
Reddit (and twitter) won't, because although they allow porn, they are not primarily porn sites and the government has had to conceed that those sites are used for lots of other things, so since they can't make the operators ban porn from them, and they won't block them, the implementation of the law has been altered to allow them without age verification.

In the case of twitter, most politicians these days have twitter accounts and they found it unconcscionable that people would have to buy a porn pass to read their political tweets (I would have found it vastly amusing though).

It's poorly thought out, knee-jerk legislation, which people who know about how things work said would be either ineffective or too broad in scope (as all the subsequent concessions have shown), and in either case trivially bypassed with VPNs. It was however in the manifesto of the Conservative party under David Cameron and they were elected to govern, so we ended up with it.
 
There’s one company I know from Xbiz that deals with the whole UK age verification requirements. It’s usually a disclaimer with a button that unblurs the home page. The main aim is not to be blacklisted and blocked in UK IP addresses. It’s a part of the current trend to slam us down. The junior high bully on Instagram and Facebook should worry the parents, not adult websites if you ask me.
 
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