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The_Brown_Fox said:
HarmlessSquirrel said:
Also on the topic of talking about tipping in public chat: starting a yellow wall by making the first tip yourself is dandy. Calling for people to tip or make a yellow wall/putting up a yellow wall emote and not tipping at all is truly obnoxious. That pisses people off, and a normal reaction is going to be "fuck this jerk; I'm not going to do what he tells me when he won't even do it himself."


OMG, YES! The guy posting the 'yellow wall' emote should be the first tipper of the yellow wall. Next time someone does that in my room, I'm gonna be like "Well? We're waiting..." LOL.

That's what I say. There's this one guy who ALWAYS comes to my room and does it, or he posts those emotes telling people to tip. I might send him a pm one day telling him that if he's going to post those emotes he should actually be willing to tip himself, at least once, and then point out that he can buy a small token package! I mean seriously, if he cannot afford to spend £1 on 10 tokens then he should really go earn some money instead of perving!
Actually quite a few of my regulars point this stuff out. To be fair sometimes they do an example of how it should work "yellow wall" then tipping for yellow wall, so technically he could claim he caused my regulars delightfully smart arse tipping response, but fact is, when my regulars do that, they're generally tips they were going to spend anyway.

heartbrokenperv said:
I may not be a model but here are my two cents. I don't think it matters to a model (at least the ones that I am friends with) whether you tip or not...as long as you respect her and you're friendly to her and her MFC friends in the chat. Tipping is definitely a bonus as well as making her laugh and helping her to have a good time. Even the popular and notorious models (models with bad reps) don't mind if you don't tip and just chat away as long as you are not rude, not annoying, you don't act like a room pimp and you don't post nasty emotes (unless she finds them funny lol).

It is very sweet that you think this, but it is definitely wishful thinking. It most definitely DOES matter if you tip or not.
Will the model tolerate you if you don't tip ever? If you're polite enough then yes she probably will let it slide, but personally I keep note of members who are nice/polite to me and never tip, I can't help but think how they aren't willing to throw anything my way, and that means they're not a friend, eventually I will resent them (not that they'll ever know). I most definitely do mind and care in these situations.
If you tip when you can and chill out in my room, I would rather you come and hang out in my room than what many members do which is perve in the lounge or pm viewer. I personally feel happier in my room feeling like I'm surrounded by friends. Friends are those who tip me when they can, I don't mind if they're not tipping me that very second, (obviously I'd like them to) but I would much rather them hang out and not tip than not be there at all.

Now, when members ask me in pms if I'm coming online, if they have no intention of tipping sometimes I'd like to know before I come online specially because I have had the implication that i'm going to be tipped. If it's someone who's regularly a tipper, I wouldn't mind them saying in pm "really sorry but I don't have tokens today, is it ok if I hang out tonight in public chat?" then I would appreciate that as I won't waste time/hope on them. I like it when they tell me that they'll be paid on x day and genuinely mean that's when they're going to tip me. It's not necessary to tell a girl that, but I like the hope of knowing I should be getting tokens on x day.

If someone is not tipping one night then I would appreciate it if they do not pm me, and talk in the public room. If it's a close regular or a regular who tips a lot, then I may use them to bitch about the freeloaders in my room (yes I do that, and it's only because I love you). If you just tip in the 10s/20s when you're in my room and are fairly chatty/friendly and don't make requests/make me feel uncomfortable, then you will not be on pm basis, but you will be someone I will always be happy to have in the room and will be an important part of the room.

For me if someone comes to my room all the time I get used to their tipping routine. If you start by tipping 200 tokens a night, I will be concerned if it moves down to 10 tokens a night, if you generally only tip on your paydays so tip lots a few times a month, then that's your routine, I don't mind this, if you choose to do that then obviously you'll spend majority of your time freeloading. One of my best tippers does this, he won't tip and then when he has money he'll spend a load and drop it all on me on one or two nights, sure he only tips twice a month, but it works out as quite a bit per day! He's also very respectful and non demanding, which means if he wants something if I can, I'll give it to him, even if he's not tipping.
If one month, he was coming to my room etc, and then he tipped less, yet got the same treatment, was in my room the same amount, I might wonder what was up. If he stopped tipping altogether for a month or two, yet didn't seem to have any financial problems, then I would have a problem.

There are a few members who've been on my friendslists for ages, yet haven't tipped for almost a year, and still do come to my room. Often they tipped a few hundred tokens over a few nights, then the tipping stopped. I don't mind them coming to my room, but even though they're on my friendslist, I do mind them sending me pm's, yet I feel bad removing them from my list. Some of them don't come to my room for ages then send me lots of pms saying "long time no see" etc even though i know they're active on mfc, that bugs me if they haven't tipped. Cool they're catching up, but I've been here, so have they, they could have talked to me or visited me easily.

If a new member comes to my room, I do not appreciate being told they aren't going to tip that night, or hearing anything about their financial situation. When it's someone I know/talk to, then I don't mind, and it can be helpful, unless they're giving this excuse on a daily basis for a long time.

Never forget, that models are on mfc for tokens. So although a bit of conversation is cool, I am not there for conversation, I am there for tokens, so yes, I definitely mind if someone isn't tipping, there are always the lesser of two evils, and sometimes I mind more than others, but essentially, I ALWAYS want tokens.
 
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re: the whales mentioning-

I'd still rather not know, honestly, but that's just how I run my room. I suspect that the answer to that is going to be dependent on the whale and the model. My whales are usually those who take me for long privates anyway. Members who talk about other member's money get warned and then banned in my room, whether it's a "the whale is here! Show time!" (unless the member in question has expressed pleasure at being recognized as such), or "aw man, now she'll be gone for an hour!" (because whining about the model making money is not good).

But, as I've said a few times, I don't do well with countdowns or games anyway (unless it's a rare dice-game night, where I actually have it in the topic instead of just an option on my profile). I have an unofficial countdown to 2000 tokens until a show-from-the-hat, but I don't really mention it in the room unless it's close or about to happen, and I don't keep track of it beyond seeing if I've reached it. (which has only happened once in the 4 times I've been on, and only from the full-day, both cam-times. Usually I get a little over halfway there in the 3-5 hour shifts.) So knowing that the "whale" can't tip doesn't change the almost non-existent plans anyway.
 
I try not to be rude to the other guests, but I just got so mad the other day.

A member came in and gave the wish I found you sooner, because I already gave another model all my tokens line that I see so often.

I know it is not my place or right to get involved, but I told him to go buy more tokens. I get so mad when people basically come into a room I am tipping in and say they are just going to fucking freeload off of the other people in the room basically. They could at least show some tact and not say it out loud.
 
Shaun__ said:
I try not to be rude to the other guests, but I just got so mad the other day.

A member came in and gave the wish I found you sooner, because I already gave another model all my tokens line that I see so often.

I know it is not my place or right to get involved, but I told him to go buy more tokens. I get so mad when people basically come into a room I am tipping in and say they are just going to fucking freeload off of the other people in the room basically. They could at least show some tact and not say it out loud.
Pff, there's no room for that in my chatroom. I ban those members to teach them some manners, because yes they shouldn't say that out loud.
 
LilyMarie said:
Shaun__ said:
I try not to be rude to the other guests, but I just got so mad the other day.

A member came in and gave the wish I found you sooner, because I already gave another model all my tokens line that I see so often.

I know it is not my place or right to get involved, but I told him to go buy more tokens. I get so mad when people basically come into a room I am tipping in and say they are just going to fucking freeload off of the other people in the room basically. They could at least show some tact and not say it out loud.
Pff, there's no room for that in my chatroom. I ban those members to teach them some manners, because yes they shouldn't say that out loud.

Lol I did that to you the other day, but fucking mfc wouldn't let me buy more tokens!!! Apparently it's working now though, we will have to test this theory!
Was so stupid though, made a member account, got excited and went group to surprise a friend and a load of regulars, spent all my tokens in a group, then Lily came online, was like "yayyy!!! I can show her my new ability to tip!!!" and then mfc wouldn't let me buy any tokens or let anyone send me tokens! I decided after throwing a tantrum to not mention it at the time as it'd just sound so shit and stayed quiet and sulked for the rest of the evening.
 
Whaaaaat o_O But you're a model friend! Of course you're an exception to the rule!! :-D
 
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I think one thing to pint out, for everyone, is that models tend to think of regs/semi regs who are/have been repeat tippers/however a site does it differently than some random schmuck on a site.

Regs make themselves known through interaction and/or tips/etc. Random schmucks tend to make themselves known by demanding, begging, etc. and never tipping. Models know regs who repeat tippers will be repeat tippers in the future. So, in general, I think most models don't mind when those regs can't tip on a given day or week.

There is a difference though, for the 'regs' in a room who have never tipped and never plan on tipping. These are the guys who constantly watch, maybe do do some interaction, but never tip/group/private. I think for most models, they'd rather those guys just go away and watch from the lounge so they don't know they're watching; over being constantly reminded that they are watching, but never contributing to a goal.
 
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