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LilyMarie said:
PlayboyMegan said:
When I'm playing "guess the right # by tipping it and get a prize" and someone writes in the chat "55" :woops:
It's even worse when you play Trivia (where people have to put the answer to a Trivia question in a tipnote), because they can easily give away the correct answer and then I have to pick a different one immediately. :roll: I hate that.
That annoys me too. Playing hangman and people have been tipping all along trying to get some prize. Then some doofus blurts it out. At that point it's just whichever member has the least lag in the room and can copy the answer into the tip note first wins.

And even if the member did actually know it now it just 'looks' like he was copying the answer. Puts a damper on the fun of the whole game when they do that.
 
JerryBoBerry said:
LilyMarie said:
PlayboyMegan said:
When I'm playing "guess the right # by tipping it and get a prize" and someone writes in the chat "55" :woops:
It's even worse when you play Trivia (where people have to put the answer to a Trivia question in a tipnote), because they can easily give away the correct answer and then I have to pick a different one immediately. :roll: I hate that.
That annoys me too. Playing hangman and people have been tipping all along trying to get some prize. Then some doofus blurts it out. At that point it's just whichever member has the least lag in the room and can copy the answer into the tip note first wins.

And even if the member did actually know it now it just 'looks' like he was copying the answer. Puts a damper on the fun of the whole game when they do that.
I'm gonna go with the jealousy theory.
Because they have no tokens BUT they know the right answer, they feel that they deserve to win. But they can't because - no tokens. So they have to spoil it for those guys who have them.
 
LilyMarie said:
JerryBoBerry said:
LilyMarie said:
PlayboyMegan said:
When I'm playing "guess the right # by tipping it and get a prize" and someone writes in the chat "55" :woops:
It's even worse when you play Trivia (where people have to put the answer to a Trivia question in a tipnote), because they can easily give away the correct answer and then I have to pick a different one immediately. :roll: I hate that.
That annoys me too. Playing hangman and people have been tipping all along trying to get some prize. Then some doofus blurts it out. At that point it's just whichever member has the least lag in the room and can copy the answer into the tip note first wins.
I like KayleePond's stance on this issue - you answer without a tip, even a joke answer, = ban. Applies to everyone (bans may be 2 hours not sure)
 
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I usually ban them permanently :whistle:
My topic says "Put your answer in a tipnote", so if you just say the answer in the public chat, it's your own fault.
 
Jupiter551 said:
LilyMarie said:
I usually ban them permanently :whistle:
Is that a new feature or do you go in and refresh the bans before they expire?
Oh, I wish they had a feature where you can ban people permanently. :/
No, I just ban them for 60 days and every 2 weeks or so I go into the broadcaster and refresh all the bans.
 
I love how she got around the restriction of those words in the topic. Because there IS a warning box that comes up on our side if we put a forbidden word in the topic and it won't allow us to update it until we change the word.

Once upon a time, I used the word MILK for a milky shower show, and it popped up a warning/reminder that lactation shows are not allowed.
 
AmberCutie said:
I love how she got around the restriction of those words in the topic. Because there IS a warning box that comes up on our side if we put a forbidden word in the topic and it won't allow us to update it until we change the word.

Once upon a time, I used the word MILK for a milky shower show, and it popped up a warning/reminder that lactation shows are not allowed.
For some reason I'm picturing the Spanish version of MFC software just showing a pop-up with an upside-down exclamation mark as a warning.
 
I'm probably opening a can of worms here since what I said is near the WTF line as well, but this girl asking about her irrelevant facial jewelry made my eyes roll like no other. I will concede to being an abrasive creature, though.
 

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JickyJuly said:
I'm probably opening a can of worms here since what I said is near the WTF line as well, but this girl asking about her irrelevant facial jewelry made my eyes roll like no other. I will concede to being an abrasive creature, though.

I saw that conversation on twitter earlier. I personally do not understand how you can steal culture. Taking ideas from other people and places is what people do. I personally think the real insult is if no one thinks your culture is worth copying.
 
Shaun__ said:
JickyJuly said:
I'm probably opening a can of worms here since what I said is near the WTF line as well, but this girl asking about her irrelevant facial jewelry made my eyes roll like no other. I will concede to being an abrasive creature, though.

I saw that conversation on twitter earlier. I personally do not understand how you can steal culture. Taking ideas from other people and places is what people do. I personally think the real insult is if no one thinks your culture is worth copying.

I agree! That is just silly talk from someone who needs to learn to think for them self. I'd have called her on that one too. Good job Jicky!
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I don't mean to start a huge thing, but... cultural theft is a very real thing, at least to me. It's not so much about who has the right to do what, but its about the level of respect we show for other cultures and traditions. I understand that the lines can get very blurry, but what she said was pretty much on the mark for me, from that screenshot alone, not WTF at all. I felt like Jicky's very abrasive response, was the WTF moment for me.

I don't know about the cultures that she's describing. I do know that Maori get very VERY angry and upset when their practices and beliefs are appropriated in bits and pieces without due respect. So yes, some cultures DO care. Deeply.

I do speak and think for myself. Listening when races and cultures say they have been wronged or are being disrespected, and then standing with them against does not mean I, or she, are unable to think for ourselves. It means we did, and we reached different conclusions than you.

I'm not going to jump into an argument about it, because obviously some people feel strongly about it on here.. and It's not really worth it. But I felt the need to post and say that she's not the only one that feels that way.

If need be I can start a new thread to discuss this as I'm pretty sure this could derail this thread pretty quick.
 
ComicOzzie said:
Topic: Tip 50 tk and get 21 vids

Under 2.5 tokens per video? :think:

while that is an incredible deal its not wtf to me.

here's why:

If you have a backlog of say - 100 videos... some are older and not selling well. You probably have an active 10-20 max that are selling regularly.

YOU COULD continue to keep your prices as is, or you could bundle the ones that arent selling and provide an offer thats TOO GOOD TO TURN DOWN.

Yesterday I posted a picture gallery with 500 pics for ANY OFFLINE TIP AMOUNT and asked people to simply tip what they could afford.

I made 1374 tokens offline. Some guys tipped 5, 10 tks. Some guys tipped 100-200. But ultimately, had I priced that gallery at what it was worth (probly around 200tks) I would NOT have made 1300tks. I would have made, 200-400 if i was lucky. Some girls would rather sell many vids.. rather than a few, and make the same or more tokens. It makes TOTAL sense to me. The amount of work she actuallly has to do at that point is copy-paste a link.

The downside to this is you can oversaturate the market.

I seriously need something to post in here that is WTF lol. All I do is come here and go "THATS NOT WTF!!!" *giggle*

I'm HONESTLY not trying to start an argument..just explain my POV on why selling vids like that can make sense.
 
Miss_Lollipop said:
I don't mean to start a huge thing, but... cultural theft is a very real thing, at least to me. It's not so much about who has the right to do what, but its about the level of respect we show for other cultures and traditions. I understand that the lines can get very blurry, but what she said was pretty much on the mark for me, from that screenshot alone, not WTF at all. I felt like Jicky's very abrasive response, was the WTF moment for me.

I don't know about the cultures that she's describing. I do know that Maori get very VERY angry and upset when their practices and beliefs are appropriated in bits and pieces without due respect. So yes, some cultures DO care. Deeply.

I do speak and think for myself. Listening when races and cultures say they have been wronged or are being disrespected, and then standing with them against does not mean I, or she, are unable to think for ourselves. It means we did, and we reached different conclusions than you.

I'm not going to jump into an argument about it, because obviously some people feel strongly about it on here.. and It's not really worth it. But I felt the need to post and say that she's not the only one that feels that way.

If need be I can start a new thread to discuss this as I'm pretty sure this could derail this thread pretty quick.

I don't see anything wrong with voicing your opinion Lolli. But we may disagree on this one. The first issue I have is calling it theft. It is copying. Theft (imo) would mean I took it from you and you can no longer use it. And then you get into the whole "how do you prove a particular culture actually even originated something in the first place". That culture may have taken something form another culture that is now extinct.

Now I totally get the cultural respect part and agree with that but it can be misused and in the context of Jicky's post I believe it was. I think what that girl said is just silly and actually helps hurt the credibility of true cultural respect. I worry more about disrespect then anything else. And as a Jew I have seen plenty of both. I don't get too concerned with the many times our culture is copied but I can get pretty pissed off when it is disrespected.
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Brad said:
Miss_Lollipop said:
I don't mean to start a huge thing, but... cultural theft is a very real thing, at least to me. It's not so much about who has the right to do what, but its about the level of respect we show for other cultures and traditions. I understand that the lines can get very blurry, but what she said was pretty much on the mark for me, from that screenshot alone, not WTF at all. I felt like Jicky's very abrasive response, was the WTF moment for me.

I don't know about the cultures that she's describing. I do know that Maori get very VERY angry and upset when their practices and beliefs are appropriated in bits and pieces without due respect. So yes, some cultures DO care. Deeply.

I do speak and think for myself. Listening when races and cultures say they have been wronged or are being disrespected, and then standing with them against does not mean I, or she, are unable to think for ourselves. It means we did, and we reached different conclusions than you.

I'm not going to jump into an argument about it, because obviously some people feel strongly about it on here.. and It's not really worth it. But I felt the need to post and say that she's not the only one that feels that way.

If need be I can start a new thread to discuss this as I'm pretty sure this could derail this thread pretty quick.

I don't see anything wrong with voicing your opinion Lolli. But we may disagree on this one. The first issue I have is calling it theft. It is copying. Theft (imo) would mean I took it from you and you can no longer use it. And then you get into the whole "how do you prove a particular culture actually even originated something in the first place". That culture may have taken something form another culture that is now extinct.

Now I totally get the cultural respect part and agree with that but it can be misused and in the context of Jicky's post I believe it was. I think what that girl said is just silly and actually helps hurt the credibility of true cultural respect. I worry more about disrespect then anything else. And as a Jew I have seen plenty of both. I don't get too concerned with the many times our culture is copied but I can get pretty pissed off when it is disrespected.
:thumbleft:

Yeah not gonna argue about the word theft. It might not be the right choice for terminology..
However lets say I steal (or theive) the entire first chapter of someone elses novel, and list it as my own.... that would be a use of 'theft' that doesn't mean something is physically taken from me, and I can never use it again. But I think it's still the word used to describe it :) Thanks!
 
Miss_Lollipop said:
Brad said:
Miss_Lollipop said:
I don't mean to start a huge thing, but... cultural theft is a very real thing, at least to me. It's not so much about who has the right to do what, but its about the level of respect we show for other cultures and traditions. I understand that the lines can get very blurry, but what she said was pretty much on the mark for me, from that screenshot alone, not WTF at all. I felt like Jicky's very abrasive response, was the WTF moment for me.

I don't know about the cultures that she's describing. I do know that Maori get very VERY angry and upset when their practices and beliefs are appropriated in bits and pieces without due respect. So yes, some cultures DO care. Deeply.

I do speak and think for myself. Listening when races and cultures say they have been wronged or are being disrespected, and then standing with them against does not mean I, or she, are unable to think for ourselves. It means we did, and we reached different conclusions than you.

I'm not going to jump into an argument about it, because obviously some people feel strongly about it on here.. and It's not really worth it. But I felt the need to post and say that she's not the only one that feels that way.

If need be I can start a new thread to discuss this as I'm pretty sure this could derail this thread pretty quick.

I don't see anything wrong with voicing your opinion Lolli. But we may disagree on this one. The first issue I have is calling it theft. It is copying. Theft (imo) would mean I took it from you and you can no longer use it. And then you get into the whole "how do you prove a particular culture actually even originated something in the first place". That culture may have taken something form another culture that is now extinct.

Now I totally get the cultural respect part and agree with that but it can be misused and in the context of Jicky's post I believe it was. I think what that girl said is just silly and actually helps hurt the credibility of true cultural respect. I worry more about disrespect then anything else. And as a Jew I have seen plenty of both. I don't get too concerned with the many times our culture is copied but I can get pretty pissed off when it is disrespected.
:thumbleft:

Yeah not gonna argue about the word theft. It might not be the right choice for terminology..
However lets say I steal (or theive) the entire first chapter of someone elses novel, and list it as my own.... that would be a use of 'theft' that doesn't mean something is physically taken from me, and I can never use it again. But I think it's still the word used to describe it :) Thanks!

Theft is totally a good word for it. The "official" term is Cultural Appropriation, and it is a very real thing. Lolli was right on point with her reply. Its not about "copying" other cultures good ideas, its about white people wearing and using things that then become "trendy" in our cultures while we demean the cultures from which they came. Its about feeling entitled to emulate things that are sacred and special to other cultures. Like wearing a bindi, for example.

With that being said, I do have a septum piercing and a nostril piercing and to my knowledge I have never heard of it being appropriative, and I think it may have been a little out of place for this girl to bust you out like that without any sources or specific culture to back it up.
 
QueenJolene said:
Its not about "copying" other cultures good ideas, its about white people wearing and using things that then become "trendy" in our cultures while we demean the cultures from which they came. Its about feeling entitled to emulate things that are sacred and special to other cultures. Like wearing a bindi, for example.
So, I realise you probably didn't mean to put 'white people', but it highlights the fact that as the 'dominant' culture, everything from western cultures is fair game for appropriation, use, modification, ridicule, worship etc, while apparently 'white people' doing it in reverse is theft?
 
The appropriateness of septum jewelry.

Why does it seem that everyone is totally missing the above point of the original post I responded to? In my opinion that was a silly thing to say and way off base. Then suddenly this is all about the existence of cultural theft? Really? From septum jewelry to cultural theft just like that? I don't get that part I guess.
:dontknow:


And stealing copy written work is not the same thing to me. It is much easier to prove I wrote something then to prove one specific culture originated something. To me it becomes too much of a slippery slope. But beyond any of that was just the silliness of thinking that way in regards to body jewelry. So which culture originated septum jewelry? Are there specific types of jewelry that may be used? Was it only in certain body parts or areas? Can other cultures place jewelry in those same areas? Yes, this was why I originally thought discussing it was silly.

I guess it is in how I saw the context of what was posted. If one was discussing a certain style of body jewelry then maybe it could be tied to a certain specific culture but that is not the case with what was posted. And that was my point. That was not cultural theft in any way or form because I don't see any one cultures claim on septum jewelry. And to be honest if my cultures claim to fame hinges on septum jewelry then we are fucked!

Now if someone wants to discuss some legitimate forms of cultural theft/appropriation/borrowing/copying/sampling/remixing or whatever else you want to call it then I am all for it. I will probably learn a lot from it too. But I sure didn't see ANY of that in the post I was commenting on.
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southsamurai said:
im resisting the urge to post a 400 word ramble on culture appropriation. its hard, but im doing it... see how im sweating and shaking? i deserve rewards for being so good! hand jobs anyone? neck rubs? c'mon, im being such a good boy lol

I don't mind your rants at all. But sometimes my ADD kicks in and I am screwed after 100 words or so.
:oops: :lol:


Start a new thread on it if you'd like to. I like reading your posts.
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Jupiter551 said:
QueenJolene said:
Its not about "copying" other cultures good ideas, its about white people wearing and using things that then become "trendy" in our cultures while we demean the cultures from which they came. Its about feeling entitled to emulate things that are sacred and special to other cultures. Like wearing a bindi, for example.
So, I realise you probably didn't mean to put 'white people', but it highlights the fact that as the 'dominant' culture, everything from western cultures is fair game for appropriation, use, modification, ridicule, worship etc, while apparently 'white people' doing it in reverse is theft?

No...I...I did mean to write "white people". I write what I mean.

Cultural appropriation can only be done to "non-dominant" cultures. As the "dominant" culture, many other cultures have been forced to submit and comply with ours in order to survive. Therefore you cannot appropriate a dominant culture.

I didn't mean to start a thing, I was just pointing out that what was being discussed IS a real phenomenon, has a sociological name, and that Jicky was inappropriately called out for her septum piercing by somebody who wasn't sourcing anything and just making assumptions.
 
QueenJolene said:
I didn't mean to start a thing, I was just pointing out that what was being discussed IS a real phenomenon, has a sociological name, and that Jicky was inappropriately called out for her septum piercing by somebody who wasn't sourcing anything and just making assumptions.


Was Jicky called out though? The tweets I saw (just from the screenshot posted) was the girl posting a tweet about what she had been told... and Jicky replying to that.

Maybe I missed a part of the twitter convo before that picture was taken?
 
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