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The controversy around Simple Pickup charity donation

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Teagan_Chase said:
I agree they used sympathy to get dates. We exploit sexuality instead. Both still exploitation though.

I don't think what we're doing is exploitation at all, members sign up willingly and happily. They have to seek us out (finding camsites and specific camgirls), and are always given the option of whether to pay or not.

Regardless of how you see the guys in the video, they really don't have anything to do with camming, and I don't think it's comparable.

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GenXoxo said:
Teagan_Chase said:
I agree they used sympathy to get dates. We exploit sexuality instead. Both still exploitation though.

I don't think what we're doing is exploitation at all, members sign up willingly and happily. They have to seek us out (finding camsites and specific camgirls), and are always given the option of whether to pay or not.

Regardless of how you see the guys in the video, they really don't have anything to do with camming, and I don't think it's comparable.

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Teagan_Chase said:
Everyone has an opinion.
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Aella said:
I see nothing wrong with pickup artists. They're trying to help men get laid, and men seriously need all the help they can get.
I think the male gender would be just fine without pickup artists...
 
This particular group of guys don't approach the pick up stuff with gimmicks like some others do.

They don't talk about "negging" and "peacocking" and stupid shit like that.

Their entire approached is based around confidence. Nearly all of the videos they make are fan suggested. The goal is to show guys that no matter what your situation is, you can successfully meet women. The women in the wheelchair video have no idea these guys are not disabled. While none of their approaches are "ohh feel sorry for me, I'm in a wheelchair", sympathy probably does come in to play, just as it would for someone who is ACTUALLY in a wheelchair. So it only reinforces their point. If you actually ARE in a wheelchair, you can still meet women, you just have to find that self confidence to approach and talk to women.

But anyway, I'm straying off my original topic a bit.

I hate that politics come into play so much with charity these days. It's almost blackmail really. "If you accept that donation, I will never donate to you, and I will contact all of my friends and organizations I know and tell them to never donate to you as well."

To me the charity's decision was more about self-preservation than anything.
 
SexyStephXS said:
And using a FAKE physical ailment to pick up women is disgusting. Pick up artists are disgusting and these guys were using a physical ailment as a costume to get women, people who are actually confined to wheelchairs can't just turn it on and off.

Side note, I don't think the wheelchair makes dates less likely, I'd feel really awkward turning someone who was handicapped down for a date because I'd be afraid people would say that was the reason.

It's not necessarily that the wheelchair makes the girls less likely to go out with the guy. It's that the wheelchair makes the guy self-conscious about asking the girls. They do these videos, according to the OP, in order to show guys that having a disability does not eliminate them from the dating pool. They're trying to give some courage to men who are shy because of an insecurity. That's a very good cause.
 
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