Streamate membership cancellation immediately after joining.

[DuoShi]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

Just saying...

I accidentally signed up for that $20 a month thing on my credit card when I made my Streamate member account. I didn't catch it for almost a year. I just pay the credit card in full on auto and never question it if it's within my monthly allowance range. Bad money management. I know. Whoops.

When I caught it I called the number (on my credit statement), and they completely refunded me, and canceled the membership. They were an absolute fucking joy to deal with, honestly.

And to be clear, no, the support person did not have any idea I was a camgirl on the site. I called as a member and they treated me as a member.

So no big deal. Wear looser panties man, life's got you too tightly wound.

Any idea what the charge was called on your card? I don't remember a checkbox when I signed up, so I wanna see if it's on my account.

Went into my old online banking and... $19.95 monthly on the 20th.

ECHST.NET 866-4525108 WA
Transaction date: 10/18/2014
Card type: Visa
Transaction type: Purchases
Merchant description: DIRECT MARKETING - INBOUND TELEMARKETING MERC
Merchant information: 866-4525108 , WA

Hope you didn't get charged. Not that it's so hard to deal with. I think the service people realize this is weird and are authorized to refund a certain amount of charges.

Sweet! I don't have anything monthly going on with that. Thanks, Jilly.

 

[DeezNA]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

Okay, so in summation (and this applies to models AND members) - read your contracts before you sign them.

If you think one small recurring charge that you can immediately contest is scary, try looking at a model contract sometime. Good lord.

People will try to take advantage of your impulsive nature at any opportunity - airports/airplane food are good examples of this... - they only keep doing it because it works. You'd think the spiders in my house would stop weaving webs since I knock em down every time they finish but I'll be damned if there's another not one up in the rafters every other day.

I'm very glad to see this turned into a productive and organized discussion about a focused topic. Hopefully this info can help some people out in the future.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

This seems appropriate...

How dare you. I'm so deeply offended and hurt by this and stuff. Yeah idk about appropriate but it certainly isn't inappropriate or at least it isn't inaccurate I guess.

 

[Alexandra Cole]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

I do think it's shady as fuck and as a model on there, I wonder if/how it affects our incomes. Personally if I were a member, especially if I were new to camsites or not Internet savvy, that'd be a big red flag to me. Even if the charge is easy to reverse, I shouldn't have to pay it in the first place just because Streamate wants to make a few affiliate bucks. Can't imagine this is the first time someone's been like "fuck it, this is shady, never mind".

Also as a model it makes it seem like Streamate is potentially alienating what could be good traffic, to make a quick buck for themselves. I don't like it. :snooty:

I think that's the takeaway here. If a member has to opt out of a random recurring charge, he's probably not going to have the warmest feelings towards that site, or towards cam models. Seems a bit counterproductive.

 

[SaffronBurke]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

I too think it's pretty shady, and I'm surprised they get away with it. In any other walk of life, it just wouldn't fly...

Yeah, except it does. Credit card companies offer credit monitoring and have signed customers up for it without their consent. Even though consumers won lawsuits, they weren't even made whole.

Also, if you need to do a reverse lookup on a cell phone number (I had to when my phone was stolen to find out who stole it because they called my husband from their own cell phone) ... You pay and then they sign you up for a monthly service where you can look up phone numbers with the membership. You only know you're signed up if you read the fine print. Lucky for me, I did.

Looking up your annual credit report with the three major bureaus and paying the $8 or whatever to see your score? Make sure you check your credit card statement next month, they may have signed you up for credit monitoring services without your consent!

There are numerous companies in all industries that have tricky monthly subscription services that you either don't mean to ever sign up for, or they force you to sign up for a trial period in order to use their service, then you forget to cancel.

I temped in a Wells Fargo call center while they were converting the Wachovia accounts over, and woo buddy there was a whole lot of that sort of thing from Wachovia!

They'd sign their customers up for the mortgage that they were applying for AND a home equity loan and/or line of credit at the same time, but they billed them all as one, so customers who didn't read their bills and just paid the amount due at the top (in other words, most of them) were just paying for these extra loans that they didn't know that they had.

Enter the buyout and account conversion, now your mortgage and your home equity account are two separate bills. I can't tell you how many people told me that they never signed up for a home equity account, yet that bill plus their mortgage bill was what they'd been paying for the past however many years they'd had the accounts.

There was so much other shady, shitty, illegal shit that Wachovia did that I'm shocked that they lasted as long as they did.

 

[Jillybean]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

I too think it's pretty shady, and I'm surprised they get away with it. In any other walk of life, it just wouldn't fly...

Yeah, except it does. Credit card companies offer credit monitoring and have signed customers up for it without their consent. Even though consumers won lawsuits, they weren't even made whole.

Also, if you need to do a reverse lookup on a cell phone number (I had to when my phone was stolen to find out who stole it because they called my husband from their own cell phone) ... You pay and then they sign you up for a monthly service where you can look up phone numbers with the membership. You only know you're signed up if you read the fine print. Lucky for me, I did.

Looking up your annual credit report with the three major bureaus and paying the $8 or whatever to see your score? Make sure you check your credit card statement next month, they may have signed you up for credit monitoring services without your consent!

There are numerous companies in all industries that have tricky monthly subscription services that you either don't mean to ever sign up for, or they force you to sign up for a trial period in order to use their service, then you forget to cancel.

I temped in a Wells Fargo call center while they were converting the Wachovia accounts over, and woo buddy there was a whole lot of that sort of thing from Wachovia!

They'd sign their customers up for the mortgage that they were applying for AND a home equity loan and/or line of credit at the same time, but they billed them all as one, so customers who didn't read their bills and just paid the amount due at the top (in other words, most of them) were just paying for these extra loans that they didn't know that they had.

Enter the buyout and account conversion, now your mortgage and your home equity account are two separate bills. I can't tell you how many people told me that they never signed up for a home equity account, yet that bill plus their mortgage bill was what they'd been paying for the past however many years they'd had the accounts.

There was so much other shady, shitty, illegal shit that Wachovia did that I'm shocked that they lasted as long as they did.

That almost happened to my parents!! Good thing my mom was a stay at home mom back then and had nothing better to do but pour over mortgage documents.

And Deez mentioned reading before signing and I realized something interesting about myself... If I'm signing something on paper I make my own copy and read every line of it, highlight things and make notes in the margins... But if I'm agreeing to TOS online I *rarely* ever read it. Maybe I'll skim the first line of each paragraph at most.

That's a problem.

 

[lupojohn]

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I actually have questions about Streamate cause I wanna join, but am not allowed.

Regarding the situation, probably best not to take shots at the lady you wanna cam with. You claim you would tip her on other sites, but not Streamate while going on to say she's too young for you. You then argue with emma, so I can see why people here would get mad. Good luck to you, though.

 

[Jillybean]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

I wanna join, but am not allowed.

Why?

 

[lupojohn]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

I wanna join, but am not allowed.

Why?

Glad you asked and the reason i'm glad you in particular asked is because something you said in an earlier post is relevant to my situation, which is that you skimmed over the Terms & Conditions. Pardon me if the information is not in order, but i'll put it all out there. I joined Free Live Chat last weekend and immediately found a couple of girls I like camming with(i'd give their names, but not sure if that's taboo, so i'll leave them out unless someone says I can). There were many charges on my bill with one of these two and when I went to discuss this with an online support person, I disputed the charges. My account got blocked because of the dispute. I created a new account at DDF Cams and after a few days that got blocked for trying to create a new account. Meanwhile, I had to pay them through a money order and they got it yesterday. I spoke with another person over support online and they told me I couldn't create another account until AFTER they received and processed the money order. Would've been nice to know this BEFORE I created the new account. The support guy even said I might have to agree to/provide additional terms and information. Meanwhile, if this was in the Terms & Conditions, then, like you, I skipped over it. I guess the only thing I take responsibility for are not telling them I got disconnected with one of the girls, yet still got charged. Meanwhile, only today did I find out that most sites like NFSW, streamcam, etc, are all operated by the same company that runs Free Live Chat, which is infuriating because there are like 40,000 sites, most of which are run by FLC. Someone in support told me that SM and FLC are partners or run by Streamate, so therefore they are all connected. Here's where, unlike the OP, I differ: I actually WANT TO give them my money by joining, but because they're all connected and when I went to Chaturbate or other non-SM/FLC sites, the two I specifically want to cam with are not members of. Guess you can say that like the OP, there's one or two I enjoy camming with. So, basically they're blocking me cause of arguing charges online and for making a new account. I cancelled my bank card and made a new one and am hoping that when it comes and they send me my confirmation e-mail of receiving and processing the money order(they said about 2-3 weeks for that), they'll let me re-join. If not, i'll be very angry.

 

[DeezNA]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

I wanna join, but am not allowed.

Why?

Glad you asked and the reason i'm glad you in particular asked is because something you said in an earlier post is relevant to my situation, which is that you skimmed over the Terms & Conditions. Pardon me if the information is not in order, but i'll put it all out there. I joined Free Live Chat last weekend and immediately found a couple of girls I like camming with(i'd give their names, but not sure if that's taboo, so i'll leave them out unless someone says I can). There were many charges on my bill with one of these two and when I went to discuss this with an online support person, I disputed the charges. My account got blocked because of the dispute. I created a new account at DDF Cams and after a few days that got blocked for trying to create a new account. Meanwhile, I had to pay them through a money order and they got it yesterday. I spoke with another person over support online and they told me I couldn't create another account until AFTER they received and processed the money order. Would've been nice to know this BEFORE I created the new account. The support guy even said I might have to agree to/provide additional terms and information. Meanwhile, if this was in the Terms & Conditions, then, like you, I skipped over it. I guess the only thing I take responsibility for are not telling them I got disconnected with one of the girls, yet still got charged. Meanwhile, only today did I find out that most sites like NFSW, streamcam, etc, are all operated by the same company that runs Free Live Chat, which is infuriating because there are like 40,000 sites, most of which are run by FLC. Someone in support told me that SM and FLC are partners or run by Streamate, so therefore they are all connected. Here's where, unlike the OP, I differ: I actually WANT TO give them my money by joining, but because they're all connected and when I went to Chaturbate or other non-SM/FLC sites, the two I specifically want to cam with are not members of. Guess you can say that like the OP, there's one or two I enjoy camming with. So, basically they're blocking me cause of arguing charges online and for making a new account. I cancelled my bank card and made a new one and am hoping that when it comes and they send me my confirmation e-mail of receiving and processing the money order(they said about 2-3 weeks for that), they'll let me re-join. If not, i'll be very angry.

I'm very sorry to hear your experience, it's very poor Customer Support management. They typically will/should explain every single action and why it is occurring. What's very important in dealing with these situations is to try to see both perspectives in order to fully understand the situation.

Typically, when charges are being disputed, an account will be at very least temporarily suspended. Many companies do this as a way to ensure that your account hasn't been compromised and you don't get *more* fraudulent charges, you don't capitalize on the situation ("oh, I can just spend more money and say I didn't mean to spend it and get a refund") or a multitude of other reasons. If this was a temporary account suspension and not a full account shut-down, I can absolutely see their reasoning in this.

The part that definitely threw up the red-flag on this situation was starting up a new account. Unfortunately, it can give the impression that you are trying to avoid a solution, dodge payment, whatever it may be. Typically it's smart to stay patient and let the situation play out when dealing with financial disputes, anything outside of that realm can very easily be perceived as fraud (which is something we deal with a *lot* in this industry). This would also explain the extra security measures that they requested on a non-conventional payment.

I'm sorry you had to deal with that much stress over this issue but if things with the site you are currently with don't work out, I would think from this perspective: if you gave those sites a chance and within a single week found a couple models that you enjoyed the company of, you will very likely find someone on another site that provides the services you seek.

 

[lupojohn]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

I wanna join, but am not allowed.

Why?

Glad you asked and the reason i'm glad you in particular asked is because something you said in an earlier post is relevant to my situation, which is that you skimmed over the Terms & Conditions. Pardon me if the information is not in order, but i'll put it all out there. I joined Free Live Chat last weekend and immediately found a couple of girls I like camming with(i'd give their names, but not sure if that's taboo, so i'll leave them out unless someone says I can). There were many charges on my bill with one of these two and when I went to discuss this with an online support person, I disputed the charges. My account got blocked because of the dispute. I created a new account at DDF Cams and after a few days that got blocked for trying to create a new account. Meanwhile, I had to pay them through a money order and they got it yesterday. I spoke with another person over support online and they told me I couldn't create another account until AFTER they received and processed the money order. Would've been nice to know this BEFORE I created the new account. The support guy even said I might have to agree to/provide additional terms and information. Meanwhile, if this was in the Terms & Conditions, then, like you, I skipped over it. I guess the only thing I take responsibility for are not telling them I got disconnected with one of the girls, yet still got charged. Meanwhile, only today did I find out that most sites like NFSW, streamcam, etc, are all operated by the same company that runs Free Live Chat, which is infuriating because there are like 40,000 sites, most of which are run by FLC. Someone in support told me that SM and FLC are partners or run by Streamate, so therefore they are all connected. Here's where, unlike the OP, I differ: I actually WANT TO give them my money by joining, but because they're all connected and when I went to Chaturbate or other non-SM/FLC sites, the two I specifically want to cam with are not members of. Guess you can say that like the OP, there's one or two I enjoy camming with. So, basically they're blocking me cause of arguing charges online and for making a new account. I cancelled my bank card and made a new one and am hoping that when it comes and they send me my confirmation e-mail of receiving and processing the money order(they said about 2-3 weeks for that), they'll let me re-join. If not, i'll be very angry.

I'm very sorry to hear your experience, it's very poor Customer Support management. They typically will/should explain every single action and why it is occurring. What's very important in dealing with these situations is to try to see both perspectives in order to fully understand the situation.

Typically, when charges are being disputed, an account will be at very least temporarily suspended. Many companies do this as a way to ensure that your account hasn't been compromised and you don't get *more* fraudulent charges, you don't capitalize on the situation ("oh, I can just spend more money and say I didn't mean to spend it and get a refund") or a multitude of other reasons. If this was a temporary account suspension and not a full account shut-down, I can absolutely see their reasoning in this.

The part that definitely threw up the red-flag on this situation was starting up a new account. Unfortunately, it can give the impression that you are trying to avoid a solution, dodge payment, whatever it may be. Typically it's smart to stay patient and let the situation play out when dealing with financial disputes, anything outside of that realm can very easily be perceived as fraud (which is something we deal with a *lot* in this industry). This would also explain the extra security measures that they requested on a non-conventional payment.

I'm sorry you had to deal with that much stress over this issue but if things with the site you are currently with don't work out, I would think from this perspective: if you gave those sites a chance and within a single week found a couple models that you enjoyed the company of, you will very likely find someone on another site that provides the services you seek.

I appreciate your help. Let me add a couple of things:

The accounts were permanently blocked.
They weren't claiming fraud as a way of helping me. They flat told me I tried to deceive THEM.
The extra security measures they want to talk about after the money order is processed is just to see if I can start another account.
I tried other sites and they don't do it for me. Chaturbate is a great site, but I rarely go there cause you can't always have your messages posted, you don't always get private shows, etc.
I have screenshots of select conversations with the support folks.
They told me to look up the girls on Google, which I did, but every other site they're on is connected to them.
They knew I was paying the charges, as I requested this after they said forget it.

Is there anything I can do? Since they didn't tell me everything, they should claim some responsibility, at least for that.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

Regarding the situation, probably best not to take shots at the lady you wanna cam with. You claim you would tip her on other sites, but not Streamate while going on to say she's too young for you. You then argue with emma, so I can see why people here would get mad. Good luck to you, though.

How did he take any shots at her? People been really reaching to be offended lately but I really don't get this one. I saw it as him shitting on himself, like I'm too old to be hanging out with women her age. He even said she was one of the reasons he wanted to join. He then argues with Emma after she attempts to insult him. Should he not have mentioned her or made the comment? Yeah but I don't see how it was really insulting or a reason to get mad. Tacky for sure but I just saw it as a harmless almost defeatist like comment. People will obviously be offended by different shit but I don't know man, just ain't seeing it here.

 

[AmberCutie]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

Regarding the situation, probably best not to take shots at the lady you wanna cam with. You claim you would tip her on other sites, but not Streamate while going on to say she's too young for you. You then argue with emma, so I can see why people here would get mad. Good luck to you, though.

How did he take any shots at her? People been really reaching to be offended lately but I really don't get this one. I saw it as him shitting on himself, like I'm too old to be hanging out with women her age. He even said she was one of the reasons he wanted to join. He then argues with Emma after she attempts to insult him. Should he not have mentioned her or made the comment? Yeah but I don't see how it was really insulting or a reason to get mad. Tacky for sure but I just saw it as a harmless almost defeatist like comment. People will obviously be offended by different shit but I don't know man, just ain't seeing it here.

:text-yeahthat: :text-beef: :text-happynewyear:

 

[DeezNA]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

How did he take any shots at her? People been really reaching to be offended lately but I really don't get this one. I saw it as him shitting on himself, like I'm too old to be hanging out with women her age. He even said she was one of the reasons he wanted to join. He then argues with Emma after she attempts to insult him. Should he not have mentioned her or made the comment? Yeah but I don't see how it was really insulting or a reason to get mad. Tacky for sure but I just saw it as a harmless almost defeatist like comment. People will obviously be offended by different shit but I don't know man, just ain't seeing it here.

It took an entire page for this thread to reach a level of actual substance and productivity. I feel, for one, that at least someone is benefiting from where the discussion has resolved. Brewing on who is right and who is wrong is fucking pointless. Just was blunt, crude and slickly rude, as seems to be his MO. Others intervened to prevent collateral, which does not always work. People got caught in the crossfire, things escalated way farther than they ever should have, the conversation moved on *several* times and actually reached a level of productivity and substance, yet here we are... back to the drama.

Please let it go.


@lupojohn - Since this thread keeps bumping back to a firefight, I'd be more than happy to discuss how to address your issue in PM. Your case could definitely be utilized as a learning experience for others, but if this thread is just going to keep derailing to dwelling on bullshit that has nothing to do with the topic, I don't see the point in discussing it here. Feel free to send me more detailed information in PM (reasons stated for why your accounts were banned, reason why a money transfer was requested, etc.) or start a new thread with more detailed info if you're willing to share, I'd be glad to help the best I can.

 

[lupojohn]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

How did he take any shots at her? People been really reaching to be offended lately but I really don't get this one. I saw it as him shitting on himself, like I'm too old to be hanging out with women her age. He even said she was one of the reasons he wanted to join. He then argues with Emma after she attempts to insult him. Should he not have mentioned her or made the comment? Yeah but I don't see how it was really insulting or a reason to get mad. Tacky for sure but I just saw it as a harmless almost defeatist like comment. People will obviously be offended by different shit but I don't know man, just ain't seeing it here.

It took an entire page for this thread to reach a level of actual substance and productivity. I feel, for one, that at least someone is benefiting from where the discussion has resolved. Brewing on who is right and who is wrong is fucking pointless. Just was blunt, crude and slickly rude, as seems to be his MO. Others intervened to prevent collateral, which does not always work. People got caught in the crossfire, things escalated way farther than they ever should have, the conversation moved on *several* times and actually reached a level of productivity and substance, yet here we are... back to the drama.

Please let it go.


@lupojohn - Since this thread keeps bumping back to a firefight, I'd be more than happy to discuss how to address your issue in PM. Your case could definitely be utilized as a learning experience for others, but if this thread is just going to keep derailing to dwelling on bullshit that has nothing to do with the topic, I don't see the point in discussing it here. Feel free to send me more detailed information in PM (reasons stated for why your accounts were banned, reason why a money transfer was requested, etc.) or start a new thread with more detailed info if you're willing to share, I'd be glad to help the best I can.

Thank you. I will send you a PM.

 

[TeganTrex]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

This seems appropriate...

How dare you. I'm so deeply offended and hurt by this and stuff. Yeah idk about appropriate but it certainly isn't inappropriate or at least it isn't inaccurate I guess.

... :crybaby:

Nothing?! Really?! But I was hoping to be punked a bit. I guess I'm going to have to try harder to rile you up.

-lifegoals!-

I think your mean reputation is either greatly exaggerated or slipping a bit. I wanted something lulzy to lulz at.

 

[StrayObject]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

Don't poke the bear

 

[DeezNA]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

Don't poke the bear

That statement, in itself, is resurrecting the bear to poke it again.

If this thread is dead, let it die in peace.

 

[PunkInDrublic]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

:text-beef: :text-happynewyear:

lol what a weirdo, a :text-happynewyear: to you as well tho

It took an entire page for this thread to reach a level of actual substance and productivity. I feel, for one, that at least someone is benefiting from where the discussion has resolved. Brewing on who is right and who is wrong is fucking pointless. Just was blunt, crude and slickly rude, as seems to be his MO. Others intervened to prevent collateral, which does not always work. People got caught in the crossfire, things escalated way farther than they ever should have, the conversation moved on *several* times and actually reached a level of productivity and substance, yet here we are... back to the drama.

Please let it go.

I don't think anyone is legit mad or brewing about this, it's a forum thread lol. With the exception of one post this thread has been pretty civil. Not really even a right or wrong situation in my opinion. Some find it offensive, some don't. I don't really see any drama or crossfire to be honest. I'll do my best to let it go tho, gonna be quite the challenge. Wish me luck!

... :crybaby:

Nothing?! Really?! But I was hoping to be punked a bit. I guess I'm going to have to try harder to rile you up.

-lifegoals!-

I think your mean reputation is either greatly exaggerated or slipping a bit. I wanted something lulzy to lulz at.

Sorry to disappoint and naw, I'm still a big ol meanie. Rawr and stuff, alright bout to hibernate in my cave. It's like the batcave but like with weed and video games and stuff.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

Don't poke the bear

Oh god. I just had a flashback to the "Shake that bear" video.

ps: don't google that.

 

[MFCGod]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

Ohhhhh, this not meant be an insult emma? Poor emma. She want give. She not like take.y

You know what the difference is?

You're a faceless and anonymous, she doesn't know what you look like, who you are, it's pretty impossible for her to personally insult you

On the other hand, she is putting herself out there.. she is (for want of a better term) a "public figure"

The reason she said what she said is because she felt you were being rude, which is understandable, what you should of done is understood why she was being like that and clarified what you meant

Instead you put "sweetie" being condescending, and stuff like "But you are mentioned, and I am like "emma who!?"

When you're rude like that it just reflects badly on you.

 

[DeezNA]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

Ohhhhh, this not meant be an insult emma? Poor emma. She want give. She not like take.y

You know what the difference is?

You're a faceless and anonymous, she doesn't know what you look like, who you are, it's pretty impossible for her to personally insult you

On the other hand, she is putting herself out there.. she is (for want of a better term) a "public figure"

The reason she said what she said is because she felt you were being rude, which is understandable, what you should of done is understood why she was being like that and clarified what you meant

Instead you put "sweetie" being condescending, and stuff like "But you are mentioned, and I am like "emma who!?"

When you're rude like that it just reflects badly on you.

Oh for the love of all that's holy (pun intended), if you pull his ass back into this thread after he FINALLY left I'm just fucking jumping ship on the forum for another week.

It was OVER. He's done this before, he will do it again. People are creatures of habit, just wait until he sets his next snarky trap and then jump on his ass then. Until then, can we seriously just lock this circle-jerk or do we all have more pent-up shit we need to spew on what could have been and was starting to be an informative and helpful thread?

 

[MFCGod]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

could have been and was starting to be an informative and helpful thread?

You find the topic of streamate interesting, I find the topic of human interaction interesting.

Why don't you start another thread? then you can discuss what you want removed from the negative and what you feel are off topic posts.

 

[lupojohn]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

could have been and was starting to be an informative and helpful thread?

You find the topic of streamate interesting, I find the topic of human interaction interesting.

Why don't you start another thread? then you can discuss what you want removed from the negative and what you feel are off topic posts.

I think he meant some of us were sharing stories and referred to mine as a lesson for the future. I could be wrong, but that's what I took away from it.

 

[MFCGod]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

think he meant some of us were sharing stories and referred to mine as a lesson for the future. I could be wrong, but that's what I took away from it.

Maybe a moderator could split off the on topic posts to a new thread and leave or delete the others here.

 

[JerryBoBerry]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

think he meant some of us were sharing stories and referred to mine as a lesson for the future. I could be wrong, but that's what I took away from it.

Maybe a moderator could split off the on topic posts to a new thread and leave or delete the others here.

You don't know how this forum works yet.

 

[MFCGod]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

You don't know how this forum works yet.

In regards to the technical aspect or the moderating style?

 

[StrayObject]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

That statement, in itself, is resurrecting the bear to poke it again.

Yes. Yes it did.

 

[AmberCutie]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

You don't know how this forum works yet.

In regards to the technical aspect or the moderating style?

Heheh, I'm not going to set a precedent, topics that turn into weirdo troll rants/replies/silliness are what they are. I don't get paid to run this zooboomafoo, so I am not going to take the time it requires to really sort all of this stuff out... it is what it is.

 

[justjoinedtopost]

Re: Streamate membership cancellation immediately after join

Ugh. I am so ashamed of myself. I owe everone who runs across this thread an apology, but most of all JessieWolfe, CharlotteLace, and Emma_Skye. Especially Emma. I am honestly sorry, and very embarrassed to boot.

I came in here the other night full of PBR, and I had been fuming for a few hours about the Streamate crap. I was looking at the world through f*ck-you tinted lenses. This does not excuse the boundary crossing I engaged in, but I hope it makes it understandable at least. Again, my sincerest apologies to all.

There have been further developments with my Streamate situation. I received an email explaining the $2 charge, to which I replied that it needed to be mentioned during signup instead of just saying "Your credit card will not be charged at this time". Truthfully, I knew full well how the $2 charge thing worked (even though I wasn't aware they were going to do it at that time). It was no big deal, really just something else to bitch about when they pissed me off.

I do think it's shady as fuck and as a model on there, I wonder if/how it affects our incomes.
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Also as a model it makes it seem like Streamate is potentially alienating what could be good traffic, to make a quick buck for themselves. I don't like it. :snooty:

I think that's the takeaway here. If a member has to opt out of a random recurring charge, he's probably not going to have the warmest feelings towards that site, or towards cam models. Seems a bit counterproductive.

I can tell you what it cost them here. I am not a big spender; when I got ready to finally try Streamate the other night, I had about $250 to spend. And I spent every penny of it that night, but thanks to that little checkbox, I spent it at MFC and Jasmin. If it hadn't been for that, SM may well have gotten it. Usually I only have $50-$150 I can afford to spend on cams in one week, so it's not like they ran a whale off. But they did run off somebody who likes spending every dollar he can afford to on cams.

This experience did foul my view of SM, but definitely not my view of cam models. Watching cams has largely replaced television as my primary form of entertainment. There are some really talented performers out there. And when you can't find one of them, it's fun to hunt for trainwrecks.