Serious member advice to models

[AllisonWilder]

btw Was both hilarious and insightful some of the earlier posts. Thx all for getting so fired up, perhaps should start topic on serious model advice to members (in pvt perhaps), or only member advice to members :whistle: :lol: .

That thread already exists. viewtopic.php?f=15&t=5544

 

[ComicOzzie]

In no partucular order...

I stopped reading at this point.

 

[Anonymous]

I wont comment further, hope this gives some idea of what I wanted to contribute. Ideally I was hoping for many member lists with models collecting only what is universal for themselves, repost in model section anything good. Seems there is nothing so far.

btw Was both hilarious and insightful some of the earlier posts. Thx all for getting so fired up, perhaps should start topic on serious model advice to members (in pvt perhaps), or only member advice to members :whistle: :lol: .

Gee, you sure do remind me of someone. :-D

 

[Evvie]

btw Was both hilarious and insightful some of the earlier posts. Thx all for getting so fired up, perhaps should start topic on serious model advice to members (in pvt perhaps), or only member advice to members :whistle: :lol: .

There are already threads in both those areas.

 

[AmberCutie]

...and this this post wast started in the thread Ask-a-Model! I must have missed the question guess I didn't read close enough silly me!

In no partucular order, below is some of the advice I have sent to models over the years. Suggest other members add to it, and models here critically tear this advice apart to find what is useful/ practical to their situations. Reason: Ask model is closest to post to model for us.

Here's my list:

1. Find out what you're comfortable with first, and stick to that for the most part.
2. Only venture out of your comfort zone on YOUR terms, no one else's.
3. Once you do something once, the members will expect it all the time.
4. Members will resist you changing anything.
5. Don't let 3 and 4 make you feel trapped- try new things if you want.
6. Be ready to change your plan in the middle of the show if it's not working. Backup plans are a good idea.
7. If you have trouble making conversation, either dance, or keep a list of conversation topics on hand.
8. Don't get too attached to the members, and don't let them get too attached to you.
9. HAVE FUN, and encourage the members to have fun. What having fun means is your call.
10. Play the music you like, whatever makes you smile or fits your mood for the night.
11. Trying to be someone other than yourself all the time is draining. It's best to be yourself for the most part, and experiment with other aspects as special nights.
12. Advertising yourself is always good.
13. Don't lead members on, or run scams. Sure, you might get good money today, but tomorrow there will be headaches, bad reputation, and no one left.
14. Remember that the members are people, with varied tastes and opinions. Don't take anything personally. If that member doesn't like your addiction to polka, another member will love it.

EDIT: forgot the most important one. Never ever forget to get your payment before doing the request (if you expect payment, that is)!

Ladyluna's list was ok. Looking at it critically, 1 to 4, 11 and 13 were about avoiding traps. 6, 7 and 12 were about being prepared. 8, 9, 10, and 14 are about protecting yourself emotionally.

Let me sum it up better for you.

Serious (and general) advice to models:

1. Have fun
2. Try your best to have good quality light/sound/cam feed
3. Be personable, but keep a good "business sense" in mind in order to not cross personal boundaries
4. Treat the people in your room the way you'd want to be treated if you were in their shoes
5. Know your own boundaries, and casually and politely explain them if someone tries to cross them
6. Respect the fact that when a member tips, takes you private, or participates in a group/game/raffle, they are spending their own paychecks on you as well as enjoying your company. Being polite and friendly and saying thank you is encouraged.
7. If someone is treating you badly, ban them either temporarily or permanently, or put them on Ignore and move on as quickly as possible.

No re-read your advice list, and tell me that yours doesn't sound like "treat your members like customers and constantly be seducing their wallets out of their pockets."

Assessing AmberC.'s list it is more common sense, 5 is saying that choosing no is ok and to decide quickly. 2 is about looking your best on cam. 3, 4 and 6 are about aknowledgement and respecting your members. 7 and the 'business sense' part of 2 is about keeping control, being both polite and assertive. In my experiences most models independent of rating do this well.

Both of these lists miss any insight as to why we spend on a model at all. Some psychologists claim it is to shame a model take control of her in some way. I think this is way too harsh on both models and members, they focus on the worst of both of us. For a long time I have experienced this spending as more like realising a fantasy. This fantasy changes for different people and as I have changed. From self exploration you begin to see it in other members, sharing the same behaviours and responses to certain situations.
Members are predictable in that they tell their model what they are dreaming of with each visit. This is where choosing an ethical model is important for us (point 4 in Amber's list).
A model who we can trust with our fantasies of them is the right one for us. This fantasy may be friendship, company, humour, sex, sharing something normal (food), beauty appreciation and so on. My list is about being aware of that, and discovering what you can share with those interested (all visitting you are interested in this sense). Exploiting or faking that is unwise (experienced members see straight through it anyway, they wont go pvt). Most models who communicate well, need only follow their instinct, trust it, and be open to sharing something of themselves. Safely of course
My list only suggests keeping distance in terms of allowing all to enjoy a room. Members are always tempted to hold attention.

I wont comment further, hope this gives some idea of what I wanted to contribute. Ideally I was hoping for many member lists with models collecting only what is universal for themselves, repost in model section anything good. Seems there is nothing so far.

btw Was both hilarious and insightful some of the earlier posts. Thx all for getting so fired up, perhaps should start topic on serious model advice to members (in pvt perhaps), or only member advice to members :whistle: :lol: .

See bolded statement. Precisely. YOU listed YOUR reasons you'd spend money on a model. Our point is that among the 1000's of members on MFC, there are also 1000's of reasons why they spend on their models.

Ugh, dude. I hate when people keep arguing and only disprove their point further. I think we all may be irritated by you enough at this point for you to go visit your cousin hornygods in banville. I suggest you spend less time arguing invalid points and more time just relaxing here.

 

[LadyLuna]

Both of these lists miss any insight as to why we spend on a model at all.

I think maybe you missed this post:

Although I'm sure you mean well, there is a very simple explanation for why your advice is BS.

I haven't been camming for nearly as long as a lot of these girls but after 20 months I have come to the conclusion that how you look or what you do on cam doesn't fucking matter. I wish each model had their own secret formula to success, but we don't. At least I don't. One day I'll get on cam caked in makeup wearing fishnets and make jack shit, then the next day I get on wearing a tank top, my hair pulled up and no makeup and make double the normal amount. Another day I might do well with makeup. Sometimes I'm highly active throughout my entire shift dancing, teasing, dirty talk, and I won't make much. Other days I pretty much run a voyeur cam barely acknowledging you guys at all and get 50 million privates out of it. I can think of several models who are very successful that look or act nothing like what you describe. I have tried averaging out my earnings on certain days of the week, month, time of day, etc. and there isn't much evidence telling when is the better time to cam. I have changed up my camming setup location, lighting, the way I look and act, everything. In conclusion... what works for one girl may not work for another, and what worked for her the day before may never work again. What one member likes, another member will not. My highest paying member is a man that likes to see me flaunt my fat love handles and belly lol. Do you think if I did that in public chat all day I would make much money? Hell no.

All you see is the fun part of our job. If you could look behind the scenes you would understand how hard we work and how much we try. The fact that most of us have tried just about EVERYTHING and are convinced that there A) is NO secret formula, or B) have found their secret formula... is why we don't like to be told how to do our job. Aside from the obvious, of course. You're not a camwhore.

The reason we didn't list why members spend, is because every member spends for a different reason, and some members will spend for different reasons each day. It's kinda like the thank button: it might be used because the post made me laugh, brought up a good point, asked a question I'd like to know the answer to as well, or said what I wanted to say. In this way, members spend for ANY of the following reasons:

-they like what the model is wearing
-they want to change what the model is wearing
-they like the model's hair
-they want the model to change her hair
-they think the model is cute
-they think the model is funny
-they think the model is intelligent
-they want to round out their token count
-the model plays a song they like
-they want to request a song from the model
-the model took the time to answer their questions
-the model ignored them
-the model made them cum
-they feel sorry for the model
-they feel friendship towards the model
-they felt like tipping for no reason they can discover
-they want to play the tipping game
-they want to show up other members
-they want to encourage other members to tip
-they want to see the show at the end of the countdown
-they want the model to put her clothes on
-they want the model to take her clothes off

Some of these reasons directly contradict one another. Hence, the idea isn't "what will get a member to spend", because the answer to that is: it could be anything, it could be nothing. No, the only question a model has to answer for herself is: how does she want to run the room? Staying consistent in how the room is run (who gets banned and why, how to respond to trolls), and staying consistent in the schedule, those are the two biggest things that will make a model succeed.

 

[Kradek]

-they want to round out their token count

Guilty as charged. Death to token counts that aren't divisible by 10!

 

[Mirra]

Damn... missed all the excitement of this one yesterday... and catching up has given me a headache. I see two reasons your posts have not been met favorably.

I often give people who think they're special a hard time by saying "Yes, you are a unique and special snow flake... just like EVERYONE else." That said, when it comes to this topic no two models are exactly alike and no two members are exactly alike. When people interact, there are far too many variables and unknowns for which you must account. Your suggestions read like a self-contradicting checklist/script. As a result, everyone recognizes it as bad advice.

Offering advice to people who aren't seeking advice is arrogant as fuck. In a one on one conversation with a model who wants guidance, that's one thing. In a one on one conversation with a model who seems frustrated you may even be able to get away with asking if you can offer advice. Under all circumstances you will find that unsolicited suggestions are a bad idea.

When all this is said and done, if I come across a model who mentions wanting some information, I send her right here to these forums. The models only section has far more helpful information than any single member could ever provide.

 

[SatanJonez]

I've seen models collect regulars and make a large amount/reach top cam whore status without doing any of this just as I've seen models do all that and more and make squat. It all depends on the chick and what she can make work. Some scam, some are genuinely fun to watch and some are just plain cunts. Whatever works, works. There is no set formula to being good at this type of work, but I believe you simply described what YOU would want from a model, which is peachy keen and groovy, but not every perv is that same and if all cam models were the same the internet would be a boring place and sites like Efukt and 4chan would have no one to troll.

 

[Maniac]

Both of these lists miss any insight as to why we spend on a model at all.

I think maybe you missed this post:


The reason we didn't list why members spend, is because every member spends for a different reason, and some members will spend for different reasons each day. It's kinda like the thank button: it might be used because the post made me laugh, brought up a good point, asked a question I'd like to know the answer to as well, or said what I wanted to say. In this way, members spend for ANY of the following reasons:

-they like what the model is wearing
-they want to change what the model is wearing
-they like the model's hair
-they want the model to change her hair
-they think the model is cute
-they think the model is funny
-they think the model is intelligent
-they want to round out their token count
-the model plays a song they like
-they want to request a song from the model
-the model took the time to answer their questions
-the model ignored them
-the model made them cum
-they feel sorry for the model
-they feel friendship towards the model
-they felt like tipping for no reason they can discover
-they want to play the tipping game
-they want to show up other members
-they want to encourage other members to tip
-they want to see the show at the end of the countdown
-they want the model to put her clothes on
-they want the model to take her clothes off

Some of these reasons directly contradict one another. Hence, the idea isn't "what will get a member to spend", because the answer to that is: it could be anything, it could be nothing. No, the only question a model has to answer for herself is: how does she want to run the room? Staying consistent in how the room is run (who gets banned and why, how to respond to trolls), and staying consistent in the schedule, those are the two biggest things that will make a model succeed.

This is exactly right with one exception, the spending only appears to contradict each other. Take song choice tipping, we do that to show you more of our taste, right?
The management of the room is critical, the first thing to any good management technique is to understand your stakeholders. Members always spend to realise their fantasy they have of your relationship. Might be close to reality or pure illusion.

A bit off topic now, this is where model advice is invaluable: In terms of management, what you can really do, here is a list some important things within the 100's you could potentially do. Manage your communications well, give yourself the best opportunities to notice interest in you, look to share anything special or interesting, be polite, take an interest in those you find interesting (have some fun), try not to exploit/fake (be yourself), remove/ avoid those disrupting communications, be confident in your appeal to others (look your best, get technical issues right, then relax), and listen for member comments/ thoughts that they have in common about you.

There will be some common fantasies (Apologies to M., for using her as example here, there is no one like you so is safe).
e.g. Mellanny on MFC is a mans type of woman, she is good and comfortable around men. As the only woman in a room so often, she expects to be noticed, but unlike someone more feminine she wont play her friends against each other. She understands her sexuality has power, and will even share that where appropriate. She doesn't dominate conversation, she knows anything she says will be noticed, this allows her to feel feminine and to just have fun. As a model every member is her friend, she respects their sexual need/ desires for her, her role as model is usually to distract those dominating her room, she listens very well, she focuses attention on those she feels are kindest, off cam she goes with instinct I suspect (I know she has met some members in person).
Personal note about M. (you never know about gossip): I have always found it especially lovely how she always took my pm's. When you are her friend she is yours for life. I spend so little on you, visit you so rarely, and in all those years you are still as lovely. Her room can have 1000's of people in it and she still finds time to catch up. You wont like that I said you were not feminine, I know you try to be. Sexy and beautiful is better anyway

Both of these lists miss any insight as to why we spend on a model at all. A model who we can trust with our fantasies of them is the right one for us. This fantasy may be friendship, company, humour, sex, sharing something normal (food), beauty appreciation and so on. My list is about being aware of that, and discovering what you can share with those interested (all visitting you are interested in this sense). Exploiting or faking that is unwise (experienced members see straight through it anyway, they wont go pvt). Most models who communicate well, need only follow their instinct, trust it, and be open to sharing something of themselves. Safely of course .

YOU listed YOUR reasons you'd spend money on a model. Our point is that among the 1000's of members on MFC, there are also 1000's of reasons why they spend on their models.
.

I dislike being misquoted and misunderstood. I listed only one reason for spending on a model in fact, it is also the same reason we visit, or keep company with those we like. A specific fantasy, picture in our heads of the relationship. I gave the example of M. above, for most of us we want a good female friend, she does that for so many. Some of her members visit with other pictures in their mind of their relationship with M., she is good at spotting that, but she need only focus on the female friend thing for the most part.

Completely off topic: Might be a good time and place to say this, always wanted to tell you since coming on here. AmberC. hope you wont find offense to this, but you remind me much of Lovely_Cath how you talk. On cam you seem so different, how you earn very different, but you seem to think of your members in exactly the same way. I think you both dislike stereotypes, like the idea of everyone being unique, sadly few of us are. One of my favourite quotes related to successful people, don't remember who it is from now: "Some of us are born a genius, some of us must become one." Unique/ special/ talented is overrated when there are those who work hard for it, there should be no shame in being ordinary/ the stereotype outside of where you want to succeed.

 

[LadyLuna]

Because liking what the model is wearing and wanting to change it because you don't like it isn't contradictory...

Because the model actually taking the time to answer them and the model ignoring them isn't contradictory...

Because tipping to get her clothes on and tipping to get her clothes off isn't contradictory...

Right, there's no contradictions between why one member tips and another one does. That's why the clothing wars don't happen (oh wait, they do...)

 

[sweetiebatman]

I have just read the first post, without the understandable inevitable backlash and correction posts..

My MAIN observation would be that whilst your list might work over multiple models through multiple years and be some kind of MFC bucket list for your own personal perving it is highly unlikely that your own personal tastes will fit other members NEVER MIND the models (Who clearly disagree here :lol: )

What works for one girl might not well work for another, I go in a few VERY different rooms for different reasons, different personalities. It would be impossible to apply your "rules" because what makes these people models I go back to is because they are unique and different and I respect them for that. I dont want to hang out in a room that feels "sanitized" or played from a script and i'm 99% sure models wouldnt want that too!

 

[ThePioneer]

I dislike being misquoted and misunderstood. I listed only one reason for spending on a model in fact, it is also the same reason we visit, or keep company with those we like. A specific fantasy, picture in our heads of the relationship. I gave the example of M. above, for most of us we want a good female friend, she does that for so many. Some of her members visit with other pictures in their mind of their relationship with M., she is good at spotting that, but she need only focus on the female friend thing for the most part.

I feel like a broken record here, but stop saying we/us as if you speak for all members! The only person you can speak for is YOURSELF (which is exactly why your advice is a bunch of crap).

 

[JoleneBrody]

I dislike being misquoted and misunderstood. I listed only one reason for spending on a model in fact, it is also the same reason we visit, or keep company with those we like. A specific fantasy, picture in our heads of the relationship. I gave the example of M. above, for most of us we want a good female friend, she does that for so many. Some of her members visit with other pictures in their mind of their relationship with M., she is good at spotting that, but she need only focus on the female friend thing for the most part.

I feel like a broken record here, but stop saying we/us as if you speak for all members! The only person you can speak for is YOURSELF (which is exactly why your advice is a bunch of crap).

Yeah! Take that Frankiejerkfacechemical! :lol:

 

[Nordling]

I dislike being misquoted and misunderstood. I listed only one reason for spending on a model in fact, it is also the same reason we visit, or keep company with those we like. A specific fantasy, picture in our heads of the relationship. I gave the example of M. above, for most of us we want a good female friend, she does that for so many. Some of her members visit with other pictures in their mind of their relationship with M., she is good at spotting that, but she need only focus on the female friend thing for the most part.

I feel like a broken record here, but stop saying we/us as if you speak for all members! The only person you can speak for is YOURSELF (which is exactly why your advice is a bunch of crap).

:lol: I agree with what you're saying but how did you manage to attribute maniac's post to Frankie? lol

 

[ThePioneer]

I dislike being misquoted and misunderstood. I listed only one reason for spending on a model in fact, it is also the same reason we visit, or keep company with those we like. A specific fantasy, picture in our heads of the relationship. I gave the example of M. above, for most of us we want a good female friend, she does that for so many. Some of her members visit with other pictures in their mind of their relationship with M., she is good at spotting that, but she need only focus on the female friend thing for the most part.

I feel like a broken record here, but stop saying we/us as if you speak for all members! The only person you can speak for is YOURSELF (which is exactly why your advice is a bunch of crap).

Yeah! Take that Frankiejerkfacechemical! :lol:

Oooops that was supposed to quote Maniac. I suck at the internet...

(Alcohol may or may not have been involved.)

 

[Maniac]

Because liking what the model is wearing and wanting to change it because you don't like it isn't contradictory...

Because the model actually taking the time to answer them and the model ignoring them isn't contradictory...

Because tipping to get her clothes on and tipping to get her clothes off isn't contradictory...

Right, there's no contradictions between why one member tips and another one does. That's why the clothing wars don't happen (oh wait, they do...)

I see why all the confusion now, you are comparing members to each other :naughty: ... I never said we are all the same member, I said there is one reason we are there, each member has his own fantasy for each model he visits. But the variation in support based on that one (slowly changing) fantasy doesn't matter.
Good models find commonality between different member fantasies, creating rooms that can best satisfy most of their member's fantasies of them. (At the simplest level might be, a special physical attribute that almost all love, a love of art (love the musicians/ artists on cam), non-nude, spanking, and so on)
Good communication is the only way to notice this. Like here I thought I was being obvious, kept saying that my post had nothing to do with my own personal tastes, but was about each of our tastes.

Main criticism I expected was that it is too broad a view to be practical for most models, "I can't be expected to read the minds of everyone I meet".
Luckily we tell each model we like our fantasy of them. For those just leaving porn it is "show us x or y or z", for those wanting a fetish they ask "can you do x or y or z", for those wanting friendship you will most likely get pm "what do you think/ feel about x or y or z", and for those wanting to hurt "x or y or z is ugly". Each group will need different types of responses to match their fantasy, this is where it often goes wrong, each individual member can then decide if the model they are interested in is able to take it further. When we are sure we tip, go pvt, buy gifts and so on, thank our model for her attention and time, or share in that fantasy with her at a deeper level.
I know it is breaking down something usually fast and instinctive, but that is what advice usually is.

We are all different and different for each person we are with, but only in that how we dream our interaction will be. There will be themes in any model room, because of the model herself. Think of it this way, if a model is funny people are going to ask for jokes, but each will only laugh at what suits them, to please this room most effectively you must pay attention to who is laughing at what joke.

I still can't believe no one understood me on this, sorry I took so long to get it, so embarrassing

 

[JoleneBrody]

I still can't believe no one understood me on this, sorry I took so long to get it, so embarrassing

I'm not sure why you think your last post made anyone understand more.
I think your two primary issues are communication and tact.

I can only assume English is not your first language based on your posts. Some of your wording is pretty weird and your use of the word "fantasies" and over explanations give off a kind of creep vibe. Maybe that's because the word fantasies really doesn't fit half of the reasons why members visit MFC. Maybe by the dictionary definition if you pick it apart, but not in common English usage. Unless you are intending for models to be emotionless cam bots and members to be wanking ATM machines.

The biggest issue here and also the one you have not acknowledged even though it's been pointed out is the fact that you posted this at all. A bullet point list for crying out loud. Do you not understand why this is seen as offensive even after three pages? Or do you understand and that's the only reason why you have yet to argue that point unlike everything else?

 

[AllisonWilder]

 

[Loslonelyboy]

Mutha Fuckin' Shiite...............Where the hell are those damn unicorns? I can't believe this thread is still going and this fella is still trying to tell people what to think and how to act! :confusion-confused:

 

[AmberCutie]

Woops!! I slipped on my bottle of lube again and fell on the ban hammer.

Didn't hurt my ankle this time.

 

[Julia_Storm]

Each model on mfc is diff...giving suggestions in how to work on cam is umm a bit redundant...i see sweet girls in top but i see really rude ones too.
I see fast teasing i see slow teasing...people are different as models.
Some tip couse they wanna see a show some tip couse they like the show.
If a model would actually try to take all these advices in considereation she would be almost all fake.
At least this is what would be for me and some models i like to watch.

 

[CCRhyder]

this was a joke, right?

 

[LadyLuna]

this was a joke, right?

Not a joke, but not something to be taken seriously either.

(In other words, the member wasn't joking, but he also doesn't know what he's talking about)

 

[southsamurai]

heres my advice: dont ever give advice

 

[Beach_Love]

heres my advice: dont ever give advice

But is wrong to offer it? If done sincerely and tactfully? I've offered advice to a few Model friends that ended up really helping them w/ tips and their rooms. I offered this advice based on the fact that as a guy sitting on the other side of the MFC "fence" w/ cock and/or wallet in hand, I had a different perspective on things and thought that hearing about this perspective might help them.

There is a beautiful, funny, smart, sweet Romanian girl who thanks IN PART to my advice has doubled her camscore in the short ammt. (1 mo.) of time that I've known her. I simply told her what I saw the other girls doing w/ their cams (she sat really far from hers, never changed cam angles, no closeups, etc.), and since she had a low camscore what I thought she could do to increase traffic to her room based on how I used and thought other guys used Cam Prev Pics to navigate the site (told her to "show off what you got" more LOL).

She did the rest. She has now has a great room, where everyone has a lot of fun, is for the most part very respectful, and gets good tips and GRP/PVTs. She seems like she's having a lot more fun camming now as well, laughing, smiling, joking, and dancing, where before she sat in the studio looking bored, chatting w/ the few guys that found her room, and going through the motions of pleasuring herself periodically.

 

[Jessi]

heres my advice: dont ever give advice

But is wrong to offer it? If done sincerely and tactfully? I've offered advice to a few Model friends that ended up really helping them w/ tips and their rooms. I offered this advice based on the fact that as a guy sitting on the other side of the MFC "fence" w/ cock and/or wallet in hand, I had a different perspective on things and thought that hearing about this perspective might help them.

There is a beautiful, funny, smart, sweet Romanian girl who thanks IN PART to my advice has doubled her camscore in the short ammt. (1 mo.) of time that I've known her. I simply told her what I saw the other girls doing w/ their cams (she sat really far from hers, never changed cam angles, no closeups, etc.), and since she had a low camscore what I thought she could do to increase traffic to her room based on how I used and thought other guys used Cam Prev Pics to navigate the site (told her to "show off what you got" more LOL).

She did the rest. She has now has a great room, where everyone has a lot of fun, is for the most part very respectful, and gets good tips and GRP/PVTs. She seems like she's having a lot more fun camming now as well, laughing, smiling, joking, and dancing, where before she sat in the studio looking bored, chatting w/ the few guys that found her room, and going through the motions of pleasuring herself periodically.

Its generally considered impolite to offer advice on how someone should do their job unless they ask for it. Even if its sorely needed.

 

[AllisonWilder]

Honestly, not all advice is bad. Sometimes it works out for the best. Telling a model to "show off what you've got," even if it's coming from a genuine want to help and not to get freebies out of the girl, is generally bad advice. Showing more doesn't equate to a higher camscore.

 

[southsamurai]

sorry, i was being flip. of course advice can be offered.. as in " would you like some advice?" it just shouldnt be shoved at someone like the broken end of a bottle in a barfight lol

 

[Beach_Love]

Honestly, not all advice is bad. Sometimes it works out for the best. Telling a model to "show off what you've got," even if it's coming from a genuine want to help and not to get freebies out of the girl, is generally bad advice. Showing more doesn't equate to a higher camscore.

I apologize for a poorly worded post. What I meant by "Showing off what she got" was that she has the greatest tits I have ever seen. They are full Cs, and are absolutely perfect in every way shape and form. To quote Seinfeld "They are real and they are spectacular". My advice was to make sure they showed up on her Cam Prev Pic as much as possible/ flash em once in a while.

I've actually explained to a bunch of girls why free shows/Tip If You Like What You See was in general in my opinion an inherently flawed business model (unless you have a big camscore?). The analogy I use is a restaurant where tell you you can what you feel like at the end of the meal. "That steak was delicious, here's a dollar, see you tomorrow".

After spending some time in another friends room my advice was for her to be less naked. She's an amazing dancer, I hesitate to even call what she does dancing b/c it's so natural and unselfconscious? the way she moves her body to the music (which she has great taste in), but something just wasn't clicking with her room/tips. My guess was that since she could get decent traffic to her room she was just so damn sexxy that guys could and would just sit there and watch her dance cock in hand or at least jaw on floor. I was looking at her profile page again and saw "Striptease" as an interest when it hit me "She needs to be less naked more often". Now she does the basically exactly what she was doing before (just dancing, very little interaction w/ room other than chat and saying "Thank you" in the sexiest voice I've ever heard) but gets tipped for it. Since variety is the spice of life and will help keep guys coming back IMO I suggested the importance of mixing it up once in a while and cannot wait to see her oil show, schoolgirl night, Stripclub Music Night, etc.