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Home schooling, private school, religious private schools, or public schools.
Which are you more likely to put your future/child(ren) in and why?
Are there any type of schools you're against?
What type of school did you go to?

Sorry for all of the parenting questions, it's my favorite topic! Hope you enjoy them!!
 
For me it depends entirely on the school. I went to both private and state school which I think gave me a good view of both worlds and the transition made me grow up a lot. I'm not religious but there are many catholic schools in the Uk that are extremely good because of the extra funding they get so I'm not opposed to sending a child to one. As far as I can tell they're not that different to other schools.

I think if I were to have the option ideally I would start by sending my child to state schools (your equivalent of public schools), as they are much harder and you actually have to work hard to get anything done rather than being carried, and then once my child were in secondary school and grades start to really matter I'd send them to a private school.

I would not recommend sending a child to private school their entire life and then sending them to a state school. It was what I did and though I had already become friends with lots of people from state schools, I had an enormous wake up call that did blow my mind and though it was good for me as a person, it completely fucked up my education.

I wouldn't home school a child so long as I could help it. I also wouldn't send a child to a single sex school. Part of school is preparing children for life. In life you do not have one on one support and no competition/people around you, and in life you work with and communicate with both sexes, not just one.
 
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I went to public school and plan on putting my future children through the public school system as well. I am not against any of the schooling systems at all, I think everybody has their own preferences and ideas of what is best when it comes to education. There are pros and cons to each, the first coming to my mind at the moment being private schooling is pricier but offers many more personalized resources; in home schooling there may be the lack of social interaction which can be a huge part of the school experience, and with public schooling the child's experience may not be personalized enough nor are there as available of resources compared to private school...I am sure the list goes on and on.

The reasons I plan on putting my children through public school are merely for my idea of "getting a taste of the world as a whole". I strongly believe that going to school not only shapes your 'book skills', if you will, but also is pertinent in shaping your worldly views and your character. I want to expose my children to the classicism that is the bane of the society they will grow up to be a part of some day. I want them to develop their social skills as much as they can, while also learning that everybody is (ideally) given the same opportunity to grow and thrive by given the same starting platform. Even if I do become wealthy enough some day to afford my children the chance to attend private or home schooling, I will definitely opt out of those options because I don't want to convey to my children that they are in any way better off or worse off than anyone else that comes from a lower or higher socioeconomic class. I don't want to teach them that money (my money) that they didn't work for will buy them an easier life (resources); that money shouldn't buy their degrees, their hard work will. I want to teach them that there is poverty in the world and that that doesn't make people any less of people because of it. I want to teach them to open their eyes to as much of the real world as possible at their age, and I strongly feel that public school is the first and closest thing they can get to that.

Maybe I am biased because I was publicly educated my entire life from prek-12th grade and then decided to go to a public university; I would love to hear from people that have been homeschooled and private schooled. I hope I did not offend anybody; I am not saying that private and home schooling can't instill these values in a young person either, I am just speaking from my experiences alone.

What about you, Megan? Have you put any thought into how you would want to school your children?
 
I was mostly home schooled due to health problems, but I was also in public school. I'd prefer to send Spawn to private school, but we'll see what the future holds.
 
I think the public school system in America is a mess. I think it teaches poor social skills and not much else. I can't stomach the idea of my kid having to ask permission to use the bathroom or get a drink of water in return for a sub par education. I'd like to home school and supplement it with classes and activities that involve other children. My husband would prefer we find a private girls' school.
 
My sister and I were sent through public school. My parents couldn't afford private school, and they, admittedly, weren't capable of home schooling us. Since I would want my kids to experience things similar to how I did, I'd put them in to public school as well. I would make sure I do for them what my mom did for me in elementary school. I'd make sure they'd retain the knowledge they acquired while learnin' even more during the summer time.
 
JickyJuly said:
I think the public school system in America is a mess. I think it teaches poor social skills and not much else. I can't stomach the idea of my kid having to ask permission to use the bathroom or get a drink of water in return for a sub par education. I'd like to home school and supplement it with classes and activities that involve other children. My husband would prefer we find a private girls' school.

Agreed @ the mess part. May I ask why you and husband would prefer an all girl's school though?
 
iKarli said:
JickyJuly said:
I think the public school system in America is a mess. I think it teaches poor social skills and not much else. I can't stomach the idea of my kid having to ask permission to use the bathroom or get a drink of water in return for a sub par education. I'd like to home school and supplement it with classes and activities that involve other children. My husband would prefer we find a private girls' school.

Agreed @ the mess part. May I ask why you and husband would prefer an all girl's school though?
It's been shown in studies that teachers have gender biases that often lead them to focus on the boys in their classrooms more than the girls especially in subjects like math and science. I don't want my daughter to be slighted if I send her somewhere for education. I'm not terribly worried about the social aspects. Real world interaction after school can take care of that whether it's normal stuff at home with family or being on a team or in a creative class that includes boys. If we home school, I'll probably hire a tutor for part of it. But, that lets me try to find someone who I'm comfortable with and can share my concerns with. Pretty much, I'm an overbearing creature who wants her daughters to live in a gender equal world as long as possible.
 
JickyJuly said:
iKarli said:
JickyJuly said:
I think the public school system in America is a mess. I think it teaches poor social skills and not much else. I can't stomach the idea of my kid having to ask permission to use the bathroom or get a drink of water in return for a sub par education. I'd like to home school and supplement it with classes and activities that involve other children. My husband would prefer we find a private girls' school.

Agreed @ the mess part. May I ask why you and husband would prefer an all girl's school though?
It's been shown in studies that teachers have gender biases that often lead them to focus on the boys in their classrooms more than the girls especially in subjects like math and science. I don't want my daughter to be slighted if I send her somewhere for education. I'm not terribly worried about the social aspects. Real world interaction after school can take care of that whether it's normal stuff at home with family or being on a team or in a creative class that includes boys. If we home school, I'll probably hire a tutor for part of it. But, that lets me try to find someone who I'm comfortable with and can share my concerns with. Pretty much, I'm an overbearing creature who wants her daughters to live in a gender equal world as long as possible.

I had never heard of these studies so as representing the general public, I would have assumed sending them to a coed school would teach them gender equality. Very interesting.
 
JickyJuly said:
iKarli said:
JickyJuly said:
I think the public school system in America is a mess. I think it teaches poor social skills and not much else. I can't stomach the idea of my kid having to ask permission to use the bathroom or get a drink of water in return for a sub par education. I'd like to home school and supplement it with classes and activities that involve other children. My husband would prefer we find a private girls' school.

Agreed @ the mess part. May I ask why you and husband would prefer an all girl's school though?
It's been shown in studies that teachers have gender biases that often lead them to focus on the boys in their classrooms more than the girls especially in subjects like math and science. I don't want my daughter to be slighted if I send her somewhere for education. I'm not terribly worried about the social aspects. Real world interaction after school can take care of that whether it's normal stuff at home with family or being on a team or in a creative class that includes boys. If we home school, I'll probably hire a tutor for part of it. But, that lets me try to find someone who I'm comfortable with and can share my concerns with. Pretty much, I'm an overbearing creature who wants her daughters to live in a gender equal world as long as possible.

What do your studies show in terms of participation rate in university science programs among single-sex educated and co-educated women?
 
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Sevrin said:
JickyJuly said:
iKarli said:
JickyJuly said:
I think the public school system in America is a mess. I think it teaches poor social skills and not much else. I can't stomach the idea of my kid having to ask permission to use the bathroom or get a drink of water in return for a sub par education. I'd like to home school and supplement it with classes and activities that involve other children. My husband would prefer we find a private girls' school.

Agreed @ the mess part. May I ask why you and husband would prefer an all girl's school though?
It's been shown in studies that teachers have gender biases that often lead them to focus on the boys in their classrooms more than the girls especially in subjects like math and science. I don't want my daughter to be slighted if I send her somewhere for education. I'm not terribly worried about the social aspects. Real world interaction after school can take care of that whether it's normal stuff at home with family or being on a team or in a creative class that includes boys. If we home school, I'll probably hire a tutor for part of it. But, that lets me try to find someone who I'm comfortable with and can share my concerns with. Pretty much, I'm an overbearing creature who wants her daughters to live in a gender equal world as long as possible.

What do your studies show in terms of participation rate in university science programs among single-sex educated and co-educated women?
I haven't done any studies. I'm just an internet stripper not a sociologist. This is kind of a run down of what my fears are for my daughter. I think it's Canadian, but same thing. I'm sure some people would prefer their daughters just stick it out in public school because the world is what is it is. That's a relevant view. I guess I don't feel that's good enough. I do know that home school kids have good statistics as far as further education goes. I haven't done a ton of looking into all female education because let's face it, I'm probably going to win out against my husband with my home school plan.
http://www.edchange.org/multicultural/papers/genderbias.html
 
Sevrin said:
What do your studies show in terms of participation rate in university science programs among single-sex educated and co-educated women?

I was curious about this and looked it up. Found a study from 2007 that measured co-ed public school vs single-sex private schools, both boys & girls. They defined traditionally female majors (Nursing, Education, Occupational/Physical Therapy), gender neutral (Social Sciences, Humanities, Communications), and traditionally male (Business, Science, Mathematics/Computers).

Anyways they found that girls from single-sex schools were less likely to choose traditionally female majors, and more likely to choose gender neutral ones. The boys from single-sex schools were also less likely to choose traditionally masculine majors and ore likely to choose the gender neutral ones. (It's worth noting as well that all of the students, from public or private schools, were at the same Catholic university, so I'm not sure if that impacted their major choices in any way.)

Another study from 2003 I can't access, but the abstract say "the results indicate that women who attended all-girls' high schools (versus coed high schools) were more likely to major in sex-integrated fields, compared to highly female fields. The effect may be due in small part to feminist attitudes produced in an all-female high school environment but is not due to differences in coursework (particularly math) or test scores."

I can't find any studies specifically about STEM fields but these were kind of interesting. I wondered if single-sex schools, being private, would better prepare their students for university so they might be more inclined towards the "harder" majors like math or engineering. Or if students at private schools are more likely to have educated parents or parents that emphasize education, so they gravitate towards certain fields.

As a psych student I would say that most of my classes are pretty evenly split gender-wise. My roommate is taking communications (another "gender neutral" major according to that one study) but she say it's majority women. I think psych is majority women at most schools as well.

Either way I always appreciate this forum giving me new things to be curious about :lol:
 
I went to private schools for most of my childhood. If I could afford it I would put my kids in private school also. I also went to public schools and did independent studies in high school. I feel I'm a well rounded person because of it.

I absolutely hate what public schools have become now. That's why I make sure to give my children additional home schooling of my own.
 
I'd home school if I could possibly help it. American public schools are a joke and extremely unlikely to improve at any point in the future, and private school is just going to get even more expensive in the years to come. I'd rather my kids -- when and if I have any -- actually get meaningful education in STEM topics and the arts, without having their capacity for independent and critical thought crushed from their minds. Fucking Prussian model.
 
I went to (Christian and Environmentally friendly) private school and boarding school until the 7th grade. The eighth grade was my first taste of public school and I was bullied because I chose not to sit with this group of black girls. I didn't fit with them at all. I was quiet and peaceful this particular group was not. They weren't intellectually stimulating or creative. I got pushed of the bus, mocked because of my choice of clothing and got my books slammed out of my hands and pushed into the lockers. They were scary. After that I moved on to a Charter school where there was not as much bullying and bullies got kicked out.
I did get picked on in boarding school but that was because I liked Hannah Montana and the Jonas Brothers over Chris brown and I spoke eloquently and they also thought I couldn't dance, but not bullied no. I was annoying lol. They all loved me in the end.

Based on my experience homeschool, boarding school and private schools are a yes. But it's what my child wants ultimately and they deserve a say. But private (non religious) school (preschool included) until the first grade.
 
The church body I'm affiliated with has a fairly robust parochial school system in a lot of areas, so I would opt to send any children there. If there's not one available, Roman Catholic schools aren't out of the question, but I would probably lean towards public schools at that point.
 
iKarli said:
What about you, Megan? Have you put any thought into how you would want to school your children?
I went to a Christian private school until 6th grade and HATED it but the school work was much harder than public school. Once I got into public school I started having sex, doing drugs, drinking, etc. I wasn't doing those things in the private school because my peers weren't doing it. Actually, I got called a slut for making out with a guy, so it made me not want to do it again. I think I just had a bad experience with the private school and I'm willing to bet not all private schools are like that.
Like Isabella, I think kids should go to schools that represent real life. Because of that, I would not home-school my child or let them go to a same sex school. Not to mention, I don't think I'm qualified to teach a child. I think private schools are like real life but with less bad stuff.
The school that I want to send my children to is a private Episcopal school. They are gay friendly and accept all religions with open arms and do not try to press their beliefs upon the students. The school is an elementary school and is $27,000 a year for one child. That's a lot of money but many students there went on to becoming Harvard, USC, Stanford, graduates. I just want my children to have the opportunities I never did, at any cost.
 
JickyJuly said:
iKarli said:
JickyJuly said:
I think the public school system in America is a mess. I think it teaches poor social skills and not much else. I can't stomach the idea of my kid having to ask permission to use the bathroom or get a drink of water in return for a sub par education. I'd like to home school and supplement it with classes and activities that involve other children. My husband would prefer we find a private girls' school.

Agreed @ the mess part. May I ask why you and husband would prefer an all girl's school though?
It's been shown in studies that teachers have gender biases that often lead them to focus on the boys in their classrooms more than the girls especially in subjects like math and science. I don't want my daughter to be slighted if I send her somewhere for education. I'm not terribly worried about the social aspects. Real world interaction after school can take care of that whether it's normal stuff at home with family or being on a team or in a creative class that includes boys. If we home school, I'll probably hire a tutor for part of it. But, that lets me try to find someone who I'm comfortable with and can share my concerns with. Pretty much, I'm an overbearing creature who wants her daughters to live in a gender equal world as long as possible.

My mother sadly read a similar study. I can honesty say I think it fucked my school life up for good and I think it really messed up my attitude to men and meant I lost my innocence very fast. Though some girls do work very well in all girls schools, as far as I could tell most of the girls were desperate to get out of school and interact with boys, they didn't know how to present themselves and got so little interaction they usually made complete tits of themselves. At one school it was pretty much a daily plan of how you could convince your parents to get you out of the school.

Being around just girls isn't natural. Sure I had fun in many situations, and when I first moved to an all girls school it was when I thought boys were stupid so it was awesome! But they are much bitchier, as soon as I moved, age 8, I got comments about my looks, hair colour, clothing style. Things like girls covered themselves up in the changing rooms from each other, something I'd never done or cared about until then. I wasn't taught female empowerment, I was taught embarrassment and self loathing. I also went to a number of all girls schools as I hated them so much, and all of them were very similar.

I think it seems like a nice idea, and I think a lot of parents love the idea of locking their daughter up in an all girls school, thinking it'll stop them seeing boys so quickly, but actually the opposite happens. Many girls go and have sex far younger than normal, and often date boys older than they should because they're not meeting boys in their age group. Where there's a will there's a way, the only thing locking a horny teenager up will do is make her do things far worse than she would have before when she gets the chance. I recommend if anyone does send a daughter to an all girls school to make sure the school does consistent socialising with boys schools (more than a few times a year) and that she is part of some out of school co-ed groups. Otherwise most of her interaction with men will either be with family members or will be sexual/romantic in nature, which isn't healthy.

For me I always wanted to be in a mixed school but past being 7 it never happened. When I went to college and uni I studied fashion, and now I'm a camgirl. Majority of volunteers and workers at my other job are also female, so apparently I'm destined to work around women for the rest of my life.
 
While home-schooling with social activities with other children would be fantastic, I just don't believe that it would be the best option, so I'm sending him to a charter school this fall. It's considered a public charter and from what I've seen with my friends older kids attending, it seems to take from the best parts of our public and private schools here.

If we had a private school here that wasn't Catholic (I'm not Catholic), I'd probably consider sending him there instead.
 
I plan on homeschooling while having my kids active in extracurricular programs. Homeschooling's changed quite a bit and is way more doable than before- look at online schools. We'll be living in a more rural area anyway, and operating some agricultural businesses, so it just makes more sense for us. Besides, seems a new article pops up every few days about public school admin being ridiculously dense and stubborn about non-issues. (The pop-tart gun incident comes to mind, namely).

Add to that the fact that I grew up in an engineering family, and absolutely LOVE STEM courses, I'm pretty thrilled to touch on those subjects again. :-D
 
Our two children are products of the public school system and appear to have survived it in good shape. But I sincerely do fear for the quality of a public school education now. It tries to do too much -- be all things for all people -- instead of focusing on core instruction. Reading and writing have suffered immensely. I've served as a citizen evaluator in a public school project, examining the writing of ninth- and 11th-graders. It's quite bad, but we were told not to judge too harshly on things like grammar, punctuation and syntax. Instead, they wanted us to look beyond that for creativity, imagination, etc. I'm all for creativity and imagination, but the proper mechanics of a process are important.

Still, a good education can be achieved in any setting if students apply themselves and caring parents are involved. But if I had the opportunity to do it again, I just might opt for a good private school if it was within our means -- or perhaps even if it wasn't.
 
Cherrywine_ said:
I went to (Christian and Environmentally friendly) private school and boarding school until the 7th grade. The eighth grade was my first taste of public school and I was bullied because I chose not to sit with this group of black girls. I didn't fit with them at all. I was quiet and peaceful this particular group was not. They weren't intellectually stimulating or creative. I got pushed of the bus, mocked because of my choice of clothing and got my books slammed out of my hands and pushed into the lockers. They were scary. After that I moved on to a Charter school where there was not as much bullying and bullies got kicked out....

I have a very similar experience to yours, but I started in public school, ended up in private school, then was home schooled a bit, and landed back in public schools (worse, rural, highly conservative, and Christian-dominated public school) for the rest of my years. And, oh man did I get bulled when I came back and worse.

The experience I like to share was how I prepared for math class my first week going back to public school. That private school I mentioned was for exceedingly gifted kids, on the bleeding edge of educational theory and methods, very liberal, and very exclusive. My math class was AD&D -- I already liked playing with my friends, I had brought in the books to work on a dungeon one day, the teacher looked at them and saw the excessive arithmetic, and actually told me if I could find some kids to play with and behave ourselves we could do that instead of classwork....so I did. Not knowing any better when I went back to Podunk Yeehaw Middle School, I brought my D&D books.

I got sent straight to the principal's office, where the principal told me D&D is a tool of the devil to corrupt children, and that it makes kids worship the devil, ritual sacrifice, murder, etc. This was in the late '80s when D&D hysteria was at a record high among the fundies, mind you. Bastard confiscated my Player's Handbook and DM's Manual, and not a week later the Gideons "just happened" to come to school to hand out new testaments. This was also one of those schools that didn't mandate prayer, but they'd have a moment of silence every morning wherein students were "free" to observe how they chose.

Little bit of a formative moment, there. Screw rural public school.
 
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Isabella_deL said:
JickyJuly said:
iKarli said:
JickyJuly said:
I think the public school system in America is a mess. I think it teaches poor social skills and not much else. I can't stomach the idea of my kid having to ask permission to use the bathroom or get a drink of water in return for a sub par education. I'd like to home school and supplement it with classes and activities that involve other children. My husband would prefer we find a private girls' school.

Agreed @ the mess part. May I ask why you and husband would prefer an all girl's school though?
It's been shown in studies that teachers have gender biases that often lead them to focus on the boys in their classrooms more than the girls especially in subjects like math and science. I don't want my daughter to be slighted if I send her somewhere for education. I'm not terribly worried about the social aspects. Real world interaction after school can take care of that whether it's normal stuff at home with family or being on a team or in a creative class that includes boys. If we home school, I'll probably hire a tutor for part of it. But, that lets me try to find someone who I'm comfortable with and can share my concerns with. Pretty much, I'm an overbearing creature who wants her daughters to live in a gender equal world as long as possible.

My mother sadly read a similar study. I can honesty say I think it fucked my school life up for good and I think it really messed up my attitude to men and meant I lost my innocence very fast. Though some girls do work very well in all girls schools, as far as I could tell most of the girls were desperate to get out of school and interact with boys, they didn't know how to present themselves and got so little interaction they usually made complete tits of themselves. At one school it was pretty much a daily plan of how you could convince your parents to get you out of the school.

Being around just girls isn't natural. Sure I had fun in many situations, and when I first moved to an all girls school it was when I thought boys were stupid so it was awesome! But they are much bitchier, as soon as I moved, age 8, I got comments about my looks, hair colour, clothing style. Things like girls covered themselves up in the changing rooms from each other, something I'd never done or cared about until then. I wasn't taught female empowerment, I was taught embarrassment and self loathing. I also went to a number of all girls schools as I hated them so much, and all of them were very similar.

I think it seems like a nice idea, and I think a lot of parents love the idea of locking their daughter up in an all girls school, thinking it'll stop them seeing boys so quickly, but actually the opposite happens. Many girls go and have sex far younger than normal, and often date boys older than they should because they're not meeting boys in their age group. Where there's a will there's a way, the only thing locking a horny teenager up will do is make her do things far worse than she would have before when she gets the chance. I recommend if anyone does send a daughter to an all girls school to make sure the school does consistent socialising with boys schools (more than a few times a year) and that she is part of some out of school co-ed groups. Otherwise most of her interaction with men will either be with family members or will be sexual/romantic in nature, which isn't healthy.

For me I always wanted to be in a mixed school but past being 7 it never happened. When I went to college and uni I studied fashion, and now I'm a camgirl. Majority of volunteers and workers at my other job are also female, so apparently I'm destined to work around women for the rest of my life.
The idea of an all girl school was for the purpose of education. I'm not worried about shielding my daughter from the evils of the penis or anything weird like that. School is for school. I want her to get the best education she can. I want my kid to come out of school able to read, write, add etc. That is the purpose. I have friends who are athiests and send their kids to a parochial school because it has the best program in their area. Private schools are pretty varied. Your experience might be far different than others. I think it's weird that people think school is the only way to properly socialize. If a kid is socializing in the "real world" on a daily basis, how can a single gender school or homeschooling hurt anything?
 
JickyJuly said:
Isabella_deL said:
JickyJuly said:
iKarli said:
JickyJuly said:
I think the public school system in America is a mess. I think it teaches poor social skills and not much else. I can't stomach the idea of my kid having to ask permission to use the bathroom or get a drink of water in return for a sub par education. I'd like to home school and supplement it with classes and activities that involve other children. My husband would prefer we find a private girls' school.

Agreed @ the mess part. May I ask why you and husband would prefer an all girl's school though?
It's been shown in studies that teachers have gender biases that often lead them to focus on the boys in their classrooms more than the girls especially in subjects like math and science. I don't want my daughter to be slighted if I send her somewhere for education. I'm not terribly worried about the social aspects. Real world interaction after school can take care of that whether it's normal stuff at home with family or being on a team or in a creative class that includes boys. If we home school, I'll probably hire a tutor for part of it. But, that lets me try to find someone who I'm comfortable with and can share my concerns with. Pretty much, I'm an overbearing creature who wants her daughters to live in a gender equal world as long as possible.

My mother sadly read a similar study. I can honesty say I think it fucked my school life up for good and I think it really messed up my attitude to men and meant I lost my innocence very fast. Though some girls do work very well in all girls schools, as far as I could tell most of the girls were desperate to get out of school and interact with boys, they didn't know how to present themselves and got so little interaction they usually made complete tits of themselves. At one school it was pretty much a daily plan of how you could convince your parents to get you out of the school.

Being around just girls isn't natural. Sure I had fun in many situations, and when I first moved to an all girls school it was when I thought boys were stupid so it was awesome! But they are much bitchier, as soon as I moved, age 8, I got comments about my looks, hair colour, clothing style. Things like girls covered themselves up in the changing rooms from each other, something I'd never done or cared about until then. I wasn't taught female empowerment, I was taught embarrassment and self loathing. I also went to a number of all girls schools as I hated them so much, and all of them were very similar.

I think it seems like a nice idea, and I think a lot of parents love the idea of locking their daughter up in an all girls school, thinking it'll stop them seeing boys so quickly, but actually the opposite happens. Many girls go and have sex far younger than normal, and often date boys older than they should because they're not meeting boys in their age group. Where there's a will there's a way, the only thing locking a horny teenager up will do is make her do things far worse than she would have before when she gets the chance. I recommend if anyone does send a daughter to an all girls school to make sure the school does consistent socialising with boys schools (more than a few times a year) and that she is part of some out of school co-ed groups. Otherwise most of her interaction with men will either be with family members or will be sexual/romantic in nature, which isn't healthy.

For me I always wanted to be in a mixed school but past being 7 it never happened. When I went to college and uni I studied fashion, and now I'm a camgirl. Majority of volunteers and workers at my other job are also female, so apparently I'm destined to work around women for the rest of my life.
The idea of an all girl school was for the purpose of education. I'm not worried about shielding my daughter from the evils of the penis or anything weird like that. School is for school. I want her to get the best education she can. I want my kid to come out of school able to read, write, add etc. That is the purpose. I have friends who are athiests and send their kids to a parochial school because it has the best program in their area. Private schools are pretty varied. Your experience might be far different than others. I think it's weird that people think school is the only way to properly socialize. If a kid is socializing in the "real world" on a daily basis, how can a single gender school or homeschooling hurt anything?
i think the problem is, that many parents who opt for all sex school or homeschooling do not put their children in other activities with other kids. Many of the times home schooled children stay inside of the house all day, everyday, hardly seeing another person besides their parent. If you got your kids in sports, theater, or other activities with children, it's probably not a big deal. But a lot of people who home school live in REALLY small towns where there are no activities like that and the only social thing you can get is school.
 
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JickyJuly said:
Isabella_deL said:
My mother sadly read a similar study. I can honesty say I think it fucked my school life up for good and I think it really messed up my attitude to men and meant I lost my innocence very fast. Though some girls do work very well in all girls schools, as far as I could tell most of the girls were desperate to get out of school and interact with boys, they didn't know how to present themselves and got so little interaction they usually made complete tits of themselves. At one school it was pretty much a daily plan of how you could convince your parents to get you out of the school.

Being around just girls isn't natural. Sure I had fun in many situations, and when I first moved to an all girls school it was when I thought boys were stupid so it was awesome! But they are much bitchier, as soon as I moved, age 8, I got comments about my looks, hair colour, clothing style. Things like girls covered themselves up in the changing rooms from each other, something I'd never done or cared about until then. I wasn't taught female empowerment, I was taught embarrassment and self loathing. I also went to a number of all girls schools as I hated them so much, and all of them were very similar.

I think it seems like a nice idea, and I think a lot of parents love the idea of locking their daughter up in an all girls school, thinking it'll stop them seeing boys so quickly, but actually the opposite happens. Many girls go and have sex far younger than normal, and often date boys older than they should because they're not meeting boys in their age group. Where there's a will there's a way, the only thing locking a horny teenager up will do is make her do things far worse than she would have before when she gets the chance. I recommend if anyone does send a daughter to an all girls school to make sure the school does consistent socialising with boys schools (more than a few times a year) and that she is part of some out of school co-ed groups. Otherwise most of her interaction with men will either be with family members or will be sexual/romantic in nature, which isn't healthy.

For me I always wanted to be in a mixed school but past being 7 it never happened. When I went to college and uni I studied fashion, and now I'm a camgirl. Majority of volunteers and workers at my other job are also female, so apparently I'm destined to work around women for the rest of my life.
The idea of an all girl school was for the purpose of education. I'm not worried about shielding my daughter from the evils of the penis or anything weird like that. School is for school. I want her to get the best education she can. I want my kid to come out of school able to read, write, add etc. That is the purpose. I have friends who are athiests and send their kids to a parochial school because it has the best program in their area. Private schools are pretty varied. Your experience might be far different than others. I think it's weird that people think school is the only way to properly socialize. If a kid is socializing in the "real world" on a daily basis, how can a single gender school or homeschooling hurt anything?
i think the problem is, that many parents who opt for all sex school or homeschooling do not put their children in other activities with other kids. Many of the times home schooled children stay inside of the house all day, everyday, hardly seeing another person besides their parent. If you got your kids in sports, theater, or other activities with children, it's probably not a big deal. But a lot of people who home school live in REALLY small towns where there are no activities like that and the only social thing you can get is school.
I guess it depends on who you've met and associate with the idea of homeschool. Most of the places I've lived have been college towns. So, most of the adults I've met who are the product of homeschooling have also been in higher education. If I were guessing, and that is pretty much all we're doing without statistics, I'd think the opposite and say homeschool parents are more involved in their kid's lives and thus MORE likely to make sure their kids are in classes and teams etc. It seems like since homeschooling is a pretty steep commitment to a kid's education that those parents would be more likely to also invest time in the social/creative ventures available to their babies?
 
JickyJuly said:
PlayboyMegan said:
JickyJuly said:
Isabella_deL said:
My mother sadly read a similar study. I can honesty say I think it fucked my school life up for good and I think it really messed up my attitude to men and meant I lost my innocence very fast. Though some girls do work very well in all girls schools, as far as I could tell most of the girls were desperate to get out of school and interact with boys, they didn't know how to present themselves and got so little interaction they usually made complete tits of themselves. At one school it was pretty much a daily plan of how you could convince your parents to get you out of the school.

Being around just girls isn't natural. Sure I had fun in many situations, and when I first moved to an all girls school it was when I thought boys were stupid so it was awesome! But they are much bitchier, as soon as I moved, age 8, I got comments about my looks, hair colour, clothing style. Things like girls covered themselves up in the changing rooms from each other, something I'd never done or cared about until then. I wasn't taught female empowerment, I was taught embarrassment and self loathing. I also went to a number of all girls schools as I hated them so much, and all of them were very similar.

I think it seems like a nice idea, and I think a lot of parents love the idea of locking their daughter up in an all girls school, thinking it'll stop them seeing boys so quickly, but actually the opposite happens. Many girls go and have sex far younger than normal, and often date boys older than they should because they're not meeting boys in their age group. Where there's a will there's a way, the only thing locking a horny teenager up will do is make her do things far worse than she would have before when she gets the chance. I recommend if anyone does send a daughter to an all girls school to make sure the school does consistent socialising with boys schools (more than a few times a year) and that she is part of some out of school co-ed groups. Otherwise most of her interaction with men will either be with family members or will be sexual/romantic in nature, which isn't healthy.

For me I always wanted to be in a mixed school but past being 7 it never happened. When I went to college and uni I studied fashion, and now I'm a camgirl. Majority of volunteers and workers at my other job are also female, so apparently I'm destined to work around women for the rest of my life.
The idea of an all girl school was for the purpose of education. I'm not worried about shielding my daughter from the evils of the penis or anything weird like that. School is for school. I want her to get the best education she can. I want my kid to come out of school able to read, write, add etc. That is the purpose. I have friends who are athiests and send their kids to a parochial school because it has the best program in their area. Private schools are pretty varied. Your experience might be far different than others. I think it's weird that people think school is the only way to properly socialize. If a kid is socializing in the "real world" on a daily basis, how can a single gender school or homeschooling hurt anything?
i think the problem is, that many parents who opt for all sex school or homeschooling do not put their children in other activities with other kids. Many of the times home schooled children stay inside of the house all day, everyday, hardly seeing another person besides their parent. If you got your kids in sports, theater, or other activities with children, it's probably not a big deal. But a lot of people who home school live in REALLY small towns where there are no activities like that and the only social thing you can get is school.
I guess it depends on who you've met and associate with the idea of homeschool. Most of the places I've lived have been college towns. So, most of the adults I've met who are the product of homeschooling have also been in higher education. If I were guessing, and that is pretty much all we're doing without statistics, I'd think the opposite and say homeschool parents are more involved in their kid's lives and thus MORE likely to make sure their kids are in classes and teams etc. It seems like since homeschooling is a pretty steep commitment to a kid's education that those parents would be more likely to also invest time in the social/creative ventures available to their babies?
Like I said, small towns just don't have activities. Like, they don't exist.
But I think some parents do homeschooling for the wrong reasons.for example, my aunt is really Christian, lives in a small town, and was going to homeschool her children just to shelter them from the evil world. They might have received an excellent education, but they would be complete outcasts in the real world. But I'm going to see if I can find some statistics, and post back here.


"In 2007, the most common reason parents gave as the most important was a desire to provide religious or moral instruction" found that in a study. So most parents do homeschooling to shelter their children. Why would they let them do outside activities, then?
 
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JickyJuly said:
I guess it depends on who you've met and associate with the idea of homeschool. Most of the places I've lived have been college towns. So, most of the adults I've met who are the product of homeschooling have also been in higher education. If I were guessing, and that is pretty much all we're doing without statistics, I'd think the opposite and say homeschool parents are more involved in their kid's lives and thus MORE likely to make sure their kids are in classes and teams etc. It seems like since homeschooling is a pretty steep commitment to a kid's education that those parents would be more likely to also invest time in the social/creative ventures available to their babies?

My experience with people who were homeschooled is that they were generally part of a super conservative family that didn't agree with things like sex ed and evolution being taught at school, but couldn't afford a private Christian school. :twocents-02cents:
 
I have always assumed that what the schools are like greatly depend on you location. Even within you city.

I went to public school. In NYC and I am sure many other places we have specialized schools for students based on grades, behavior, attendance and sometimes talent. These are still public schools.

I went to one of these. The school I went to was Fiorello H. LaGuardia High School of Music & Art and Performing Arts. Don't worry btw I am open about that. In addition to the full academic course that other schools have I also was required to take a full course of vocational training that is more similar to conservatory style in my given major...which was drama. This included 5 periods a day of additional schooling. In addition to that I was required to put a couple hours a week into unpaid work for the theatre. On top of that there was rehearsal up to 45hrs a week. While it might seem like a lot, you don't have to go to a school like this. It is a pleasure and a proud privilege.

To get into this school it takes weeks of auditions, interviews and tests. You also need to be asked back each year. They offered a ton of AP and honor courses as well.

The school is a public school but does not need to follow the standards of the other public schools in the city. Being able to choose alternative teaching methods etc. It also receives a ton of additional funding by the city and the long list of well known alumni such as Jennifer Anniston, Nikki Minaj, Robert DeNiro, Liza Minnelli, Al Pachino, Adrian Brody, Weasly Snipes....and the list goes on. Students also have the opportunity to have these people as teachers, and speakers as well as other industry people.

I realize this not the typical public education that kids get.

Assuming my partner blindly follows what i want to do, I will send my child to public schools. Once they reach middle school (which is when these specialized schools start) I will give them the opportunity to try to join one. I will do everything in my power to help them get into one. Weather it's performance schools like I went to or math and science schools or journalism schools etc.
If not I won't make them, but am going to Damon sure let them know what they are missing out on, and show them what all these schools have to offer.

After all my taxes are going to pay for these public schools and I would take as full advantage of them as possible.
 
NataliaGrey said:
JickyJuly said:
I guess it depends on who you've met and associate with the idea of homeschool. Most of the places I've lived have been college towns. So, most of the adults I've met who are the product of homeschooling have also been in higher education. If I were guessing, and that is pretty much all we're doing without statistics, I'd think the opposite and say homeschool parents are more involved in their kid's lives and thus MORE likely to make sure their kids are in classes and teams etc. It seems like since homeschooling is a pretty steep commitment to a kid's education that those parents would be more likely to also invest time in the social/creative ventures available to their babies?

My experience with people who were homeschooled is that they were generally part of a super conservative family that didn't agree with things like sex ed and evolution being taught at school, but couldn't afford a private Christian school. :twocents-02cents:

I was homeschooled, and my parents are both atheists, haha. They kept me out of public school because they wanted me to learn independently. So until 9th grade (I begged them to let me go to public high school, and they let me make up my own mind about it, so I ended up going) I just read a bunch, went on cool vacations, took lots of nifty free classes in my community (violin, weaving, pottery, etc.) learned at my own pace, and was pretty much the poster child for independent unguided study. I spent time with people of all ages, from younger than me all the way up to people in their 70s during my homeschooling, and never felt that I was deprived of any sort of human contact. I actually had a more diverse range of contact/experiences than any kid in public school.

Then when I went to public high school... well, let's just say that my peers didn't like me much because I got the highest grade in every class. And I had never had formal sit-down education in any of the classes that I took in public high school, they were just so easy and covered things that I had learned on my own by simply existing in the world. The running joke is that I learn things by osmosis. It was easy, boring, and honestly I wish I hadn't switched. Being shoved into a box after years of running around a big green meadow is the best way to describe it, lol. :p
 
I think it depends a lot on where you live as well. I went to private catholic schools and an all girl high school moreso because my neighborhood was kind of crap and the public schools there are awful, than for any religous reasons. Almost everyone in my neighborhood went somewhere if you could afford to (or even got scholarships for high schools :whistle: ). Or a lot of people played the game where they "lived" with a grandma or aunt or something with an address in a wealthier place to go to the public schools there. Even others paid the tax differential to go to a better public high school out of distract, instead of a private school.

I did find my high school pushed girls more in math and science than other comparable private high schools around and that's why I chose it (among several) My parents might have made the decision for private school but growing up where I did, I wanted to and most kids had the opportunity to apply to more than one high school and pick which one they wanted to. I remember bitching to my boyfriend when I was 15 about how I wish I went to public school. He did. He told me he wished he went to catholic school.

People assume it shelters you in terms of friendships but it can be kind of the opposite. I had 3 groups of friends in high school. The friends I went to grade school with (which weren't all from the same neighborhood as I) the friends from my neighborhood, and the friends from my high school. Some of my closest friends in high school went to other schools and I would meet and hang out with their friends as well.

Private schools are definitely more on your butt about stuff and even as a major slacker in Senior year I was forced to stay after school for calculus tutoring. A class I wasn't doing well in because I was asleep through it and never did homework ever :shhh: But technically wasn't even a required course but they wanted me to(and believed I could, do better.) I could have technically skipped a math class my senior year but because I didn't they'd make me stay after school to get my 70 average up.

I went to college too soon for myself and I picked the writing/business courses and avoided the math/ science classes and still kick myself about it. Because I was good at those things... but I was a little preoccupied. I think I wanted to prove I could pass college without actually trying or something. Success. :? idk I'm a dick. If I ever did go again math/science is the route I would take. I went to a state college and was an average student.

I went to an informal high school (all girl) 10 year reunion *gulp* two years ago. And about half the class showed up. Walking around I felt like everyone had become a school teacher :? . So I don't know. Traditionally female job there. I had a businessy/governmenty job at the time. (and had recently started camming :shhh: )BUT anyone who had a different job than school teacher, had a really fucking cool and interesting one, and was likely already making close to 6 figs at 28 as a woman so... probably helps. And I don't think any of my friends that went to the public high schools where I lived went to college.

Religion was played up more in my grade school than high school. But was still essentially separate from education. Of all my "issues", I can say for me that has very little to do with any of them ;)
My high school religion classes also are usually just spirituality classes where you learn about all religions. And we'd like meditate (nap) it was the best. :-D

That said. My decision would depend on where I lived, and the schools available if I had children.
I don't think there's more or less drugs, sex or alcohol etc. in private or public schools. I think that's readily available everywhere at that age. But the education can be stronger in private schools for sure.
 
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