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I've actually had fans tell me if they ever saw me in public, they'd give me 'two thumbs up and a smile' but otherwise leave me alone. I'd totally return the gesture :D

I've never really been worried about being recognized - just a personal thing. I totally understand and respect that other models value their privacy a lot. But I'm pretty lax about it. That said, I'd be pretty amused so long as the fan was cool about it i.e. not asking me for a 'rendezvous'. Beyond that, heck yeah I'd chat for a moment and take a 'fan pic' with them if I had the time. Heh..

Edit: Seems like OP meant more of a 'oh fuck, that's you?' kind of scenario. I'd just be like 'Yep. So I guess this means you watch cam guys, huh?'

No offense but I think it's a lot scarier when you're a 95 pound woman than if you're a shredded dude.
 
If you recognize me at a convention I'll definitely have a chat and even give you a hug if you're a cool reg. That's a controlled environment where I EXPECT to meet people I know. See me at the gym or in the grocery store and approach me? I'll play nice but asked to be left alone then call someone to escort me somewhere safe and sleep with my gun for the next few weeks.

Don't do it, leave us alone. We're just trying to live our lives and aren't in "work mode" in a controlled environment. Plus stalkers are so common that I believe most women are naturally wary of random men approaching them for no reason. Wanna meet me irl? Come to a convention I'm at or buy a date when I'm offering them.

I've only been recognized once in public and it was probably harmless, nevertheless I was terrified for weeks and never went back to the place (or the area of town) the person saw me at. No matter your intent, you're only adding stress.
 
No offense but I think it's a lot scarier when you're a 95 pound woman than if you're a shredded dude.

None taken! You're absolutely correct. I was answering on behalf of how I would respond, but I recognize that I'm an outlier in this situation.

I personally think that a viewer should leave a lady alone, no exceptions. As a guy, I would assume I'd creep the hell out of a cam-girl or terrify her doing something like that. Probably should have clarified that in my original post, so I'm saying it now: cam-site viewers should leave ladies alone, period.
 
So I wanted to ask, how would you react if a guy would come and start talking to you (in real life), and after a while he would be like 'wait a minute, I know you from 'enter site name''. Bare in mind that he doesn't mind, but he is like 'omg wtf'. Would you stop talking to him just because he recognized you?

After I dissected this a bit further, this is really creepy. In this scenario you know who she is, she does not know you and you use the advantage of her not knowing your identity to strike up a convo because she will may assume you are just a stranger.

There’s a unanimous vote between members and models here in this thread. Leave her alone unless she has openly invited members to approach her in public. You don’t have much of a defense here. Let it go and if you can’t than this is no longer an idea, but an obsession.
 
After I dissected this a bit further, this is really creepy. In this scenario you know who she is, she does not know you and you use the advantage of her not knowing your identity to strike up a convo because she will may assume you are just a stranger.

There’s a unanimous vote between members and models here in this thread. Leave her alone unless she has openly invited members to approach her in public. You don’t have much of a defense here. Let it go and if you can’t than this is no longer an idea, but an obsession.

I'm agreeing with this on second thought. I initially read the OP as a sort of 'what if' scenario, and yes, as a big guy, it wouldn't bother me much....but it shouldn't happen at all. It's a violation of privacy.

Especially after reading some of the sentiments from the female models here, yeah...this would be totally unacceptable. Putting someone in that kind of situation is just a straight no-no. How do you think it would make a lady feel to p
After I dissected this a bit further, this is really creepy. In this scenario you know who she is, she does not know you and you use the advantage of her not knowing your identity to strike up a convo because she will may assume you are just a stranger.

There’s a unanimous vote between members and models here in this thread. Leave her alone unless she has openly invited members to approach her in public. You don’t have much of a defense here. Let it go and if you can’t than this is no longer an idea, but an obsession.

Yeah, this is the point here. When I first read the OP, I saw it as a sort of 'what if' scenario and less a question of whether approaching a model in public is right or wrong. I stated I wouldn't mind, but as someone else pointed out, I'm a big guy. I am not the majority.

The bottom line is camming is a virtual industry. Under no circumstance is it OK to use a lack of acquaintanceship as a guise to start talking to a model about her or his work. Cam-stuff belongs on cam-sites, not IRL.

As for the ladies here...wow, I can't imagine the anxiety of having some random guy approach you about your modeling. What the hell would his intention be? I wouldn't blame you for assuming it isn't something good. It's ultimately a gross violation of privacy.

So viewers: leave models alone IRL.
 
Ooooohhhhh WOW... I just saw what the OP posted later in the thread about the cafe scenario. Holy shit. Sorry I missed that y'all.

OP...dude...don't fucking do that. Do you realize how terrifying that would be for her, to approach this woman in public and start talking to her about her modeling? Leave her alone dude. Don't even go to the freakin' cafe anymore if you can't control yourself.

Cam viewers need to be responsible. This means recognizing that cam-models exist on cam-sites only. In the real world, we are real people with real lives and a right to privacy.

Not trying to rant here, but this kind of pisses me off. I don't understand this shit where guys think it's OK to harass female models about their personal shit. I'd venture to say the women on here aren't camming looking for a date or a boyfriend.

Guys can be intimidating as hell. Trust me, I know (hell, I look scary whether I like it or not). Because of this I go out of my way to NOT stare at women or make them feel enclosed etc. And I'm not even trying to 'hit on' them!

It's just a social responsibility. Man up and show some respect.
 
To be honest, member of my room or not, I don't want to be approached at all in a coffee shop. I'm not looking for any meet-cutes, I'm just trying to live my life in peace.

I know that makes me sound anti romance and whatnot, but I feel like if I wanted a guy to approach me, I would send him signs like flirty eyes and bashful smiles with lip bites to let him know its okay. I'd be pretty obvious about it. In general, if I am not doing that, I don't want to be bothered.

If I wanted to approach a guy, I would wait for similar non verbal consent clues before I did because I know people's time is valuable and I wouldn't want to intrude on his personal time.
 
Others have said similar things but... I've had movie stars in my shop, and I'd do the same with a cam model - leave them alone to do their business. I might say to a movie star I liked a particular film or scene (not into autographs or selfies) if they came to the desk and bought something, but I would never say anything to a cam model, unless SHE recognized me from a private and SHE started the conversation.

I will say that sometimes seeing a cam model in ordinary clothes rather than lingerie is interestingly nice :).
 
Guys can be intimidating as hell. Trust me, I know (hell, I look scary whether I like it or not). Because of this I go out of my way to NOT stare at women or make them feel enclosed etc. And I'm not even trying to 'hit on' them!
Just wanted to say I find this attitude both refreshing and awesome. I spend too much time on Reddit where so many guys lament that it’s so hard being treated like you’re scary and it’s unfair that they should have to cross the street just because some hysterical woman might find it intimidating to have a guy walk behind her at night. One of my guy friends is really tall and broad, and so he’s aware of how his presence impacts women and he does what you do - recognizes that and gives them space so they can see he’s not a threat. It’s appreciated, and it’s nice to see dudes consider that rather than just say it’s unfair.

A big dude once was walking behind me in a dark parking lot; he cleared his throat so I’d know he was there and then pointedly gave me a wiiiiiiide berth. I hadn’t been intimidated but when I saw him and he moved around me with tons of space, I thought it was quite kind and thoughtful of him.
 
Just wanted to say I find this attitude both refreshing and awesome. I spend too much time on Reddit where so many guys lament that it’s so hard being treated like you’re scary and it’s unfair that they should have to cross the street just because some hysterical woman might find it intimidating to have a guy walk behind her at night. One of my guy friends is really tall and broad, and so he’s aware of how his presence impacts women and he does what you do - recognizes that and gives them space so they can see he’s not a threat. It’s appreciated, and it’s nice to see dudes consider that rather than just say it’s unfair.

A big dude once was walking behind me in a dark parking lot; he cleared his throat so I’d know he was there and then pointedly gave me a wiiiiiiide berth. I hadn’t been intimidated but when I saw him and he moved around me with tons of space, I thought it was quite kind and thoughtful of him.

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It's a social responsibility, as far as I see it. Sure, the lovely people on Reddit (LOL) can 'mansplain' it as much as they want, or bitch and moan about unfairness and sexism, but the reality is that guys can be scary. Period. Just because they don't like it doesn't change the fact that this is a very real issue.

Especially if you're a 220lb muscle-head like me! Ha! I always remind myself that in public, people don't know me. They don't know if I'm a nice guy, if I'm faithfully married, if I respect women (or anyone, really). All they can know about me is what they see...and what they see is a big dude. Idgaf if it's 'unfair' - it's about being realistic and self-aware.

I've been in relationships with women who have been victims of sexual, physical, and/or mental abuse - one of the most common threads I noticed was that the idea of feeling 'trapped' or enclosed is about the worst thing you can do to someone who is an abuse survivor. It psychologically reinforces feelings of helplessness.

I think putting a woman in a position where she has fewer options is just about the shittiest thing a guy can do. For instance, my wife and I were talking about men hitting on women while they are at work (especially in the service industry). It's part of their job to 'play nice' and interact with you, so it's super lame to hit on a girl while she's waiting tables or something and feels like she's jeopardizing her job by not putting up with the B.S. Any guy who does this should know better.

There are places/structures in our society that were made for trying to get dates....they're called bars and clubs, or dating apps. NOT a woman's work-place or any other situation where she has a lowered capacity to say "No". This stuff makes my blood boil - I feel like the guys who do this know what they are doing. They often think, "I'm going to try and catch this lady off-guard where she can't say no and my chances are higher!" They think they're being clever, but what they are doing is reinforcing and perpetuating the very real fears of rape-culture and harassment.

So, like your guy friend, I go out of my way to try and be accommodating. I've definitely done the 'cough thing' before, or I'll even make a phone call and start chatting with a buddy (it kind of reinforces the idea that I'm not focused on the woman who is walking alone, I hope). I'll take a different route so as not to be walking behind a woman for a long period of time, or I'll stop and let them walk ahead. Basically anything I can do to make it known that I'm not interested, not shady, and just going about my business.

I think a lot of men would benefit from learning how to handle these situations....and to be aware of them in the first place. I always recommend:

-Don't situate yourself between a lone female and exits (or block them). This has been proven to cause elevated anxiety, stress, and can put someone into full-on panic mode.

-Don't be a 'surprise': make yourself known - cough, call someone on the phone, drag your feet, whatever. And subsequently, do the exact opposite of what a predator would do. Don't follow, 'tail', or try to strike up conversation (this last one is about the worst thing you can do IMO - you might have good intentions, but it comes off as creepy, so don't).

-Cross the street, use a different route, stop and sit down, etc. Do something that demonstrates you are not in a position to 'pounce' on someone or physically access them.

Eh, and here I go ranting again. I guess this stuff just gets on my nerves. :/
 
:D

It's a social responsibility, as far as I see it. Sure, the lovely people on Reddit (LOL) can 'mansplain' it as much as they want, or bitch and moan about unfairness and sexism, but the reality is that guys can be scary. Period. Just because they don't like it doesn't change the fact that this is a very real issue.

Especially if you're a 220lb muscle-head like me! Ha! I always remind myself that in public, people don't know me. They don't know if I'm a nice guy, if I'm faithfully married, if I respect women (or anyone, really). All they can know about me is what they see...and what they see is a big dude. Idgaf if it's 'unfair' - it's about being realistic and self-aware.

I've been in relationships with women who have been victims of sexual, physical, and/or mental abuse - one of the most common threads I noticed was that the idea of feeling 'trapped' or enclosed is about the worst thing you can do to someone who is an abuse survivor. It psychologically reinforces feelings of helplessness.

I think putting a woman in a position where she has fewer options is just about the shittiest thing a guy can do. For instance, my wife and I were talking about men hitting on women while they are at work (especially in the service industry). It's part of their job to 'play nice' and interact with you, so it's super lame to hit on a girl while she's waiting tables or something and feels like she's jeopardizing her job by not putting up with the B.S. Any guy who does this should know better.

There are places/structures in our society that were made for trying to get dates....they're called bars and clubs, or dating apps. NOT a woman's work-place or any other situation where she has a lowered capacity to say "No". This stuff makes my blood boil - I feel like the guys who do this know what they are doing. They often think, "I'm going to try and catch this lady off-guard where she can't say no and my chances are higher!" They think they're being clever, but what they are doing is reinforcing and perpetuating the very real fears of rape-culture and harassment.

So, like your guy friend, I go out of my way to try and be accommodating. I've definitely done the 'cough thing' before, or I'll even make a phone call and start chatting with a buddy (it kind of reinforces the idea that I'm not focused on the woman who is walking alone, I hope). I'll take a different route so as not to be walking behind a woman for a long period of time, or I'll stop and let them walk ahead. Basically anything I can do to make it known that I'm not interested, not shady, and just going about my business.

I think a lot of men would benefit from learning how to handle these situations....and to be aware of them in the first place. I always recommend:

-Don't situate yourself between a lone female and exits (or block them). This has been proven to cause elevated anxiety, stress, and can put someone into full-on panic mode.

-Don't be a 'surprise': make yourself known - cough, call someone on the phone, drag your feet, whatever. And subsequently, do the exact opposite of what a predator would do. Don't follow, 'tail', or try to strike up conversation (this last one is about the worst thing you can do IMO - you might have good intentions, but it comes off as creepy, so don't).

-Cross the street, use a different route, stop and sit down, etc. Do something that demonstrates you are not in a position to 'pounce' on someone or physically access them.

Eh, and here I go ranting again. I guess this stuff just gets on my nerves. :/

I think you're taking the apologist route. You shouldn't have to take extra action not to offend others because of how you look. People that have fears like that should be getting help. If someone thinks you're a monster justifying that logic by you taking action to 'help' protect them from you isn't rational. I'm also a very large guy that goes to the gym and has pride in my looks and body and I'm not a monster because of it or should behave with shame for it. If I'm moving away from someone on the street it's because THEY are acting strange. If someone needs to cross the street to avoid me so be it that's their right but I won't take actions that enforce a persons belief that they are somehow being victimized by my simple presence.

You're just reinforcing bigoted stereotypes that people are building about you from your appearance. This is white knighting that promotes intersectionality.

tl;dr People with mental hangups need to get help. Helping them in the way your mention only validate their bigoted logic.

Just wanted you to consider this from a viewpoint you do you.
 
I think you're taking the apologist route. You shouldn't have to take extra action not to offend others because of how you look. People that have fears like that should be getting help. If someone thinks you're a monster justifying that logic by you taking action to 'help' protect them from you isn't rational. I'm also a very large guy that goes to the gym and has pride in my looks and body and I'm not a monster because of it or should behave with shame for it. If I'm moving away from someone on the street it's because THEY are acting strange. If someone needs to cross the street to avoid me so be it that's their right but I won't take actions that enforce a persons belief that they are somehow being victimized by my simple presence.

You're just reinforcing bigoted stereotypes that people are building about you from your appearance. This is white knighting that promotes intersectionality.

tl;dr People with mental hangups need to get help. Helping them in the way your mention only validate their bigoted logic.

Just wanted you to consider this from a viewpoint you do you.

And my refusing to be accommodating is giving them that 'help', right? There's a non-sequitur here, dude. You're right, we shouldn't be seen as 'monsters'. But I never said anything about that.

Eh, I've heard this viewpoint before. I get it, I do - probably more than you'd think I do. There was even a point in time during which I vehemently opposed the whole third-wave feminist P.C. culture. It's not that I don't anymore, it's that I just don't care. It's a waste of my time to argue with a worldview that is essentially insulated in places like Tumblr to begin with.

Sure, we can want for this to change, but right now there's reality to deal with. If it requires of me minimal effort to ensure someone isn't terrified, I'll do it. I'm not here to police the possible maladjustment that said someone might be entertaining.

Is it wrong that people make these assumptions about me? Yup. Doesn't change the fact that the stereotypes do exist, and refusing to render these 'accommodations' I noted isn't going to make headway in eliminating those stereotypes. It's just showboating and being a dick to force myself on someone in hopes that I'm going to incite some sort of re-appraisal of their worldview. I'm pretty sure it's not that simple. If anything, what I'm doing is reinforcing that the stereotyping and shaming you are talking about isn't right.

That said, I'm not here to espouse the socio-cultural implications of this whole scenario, nor am I particularly interested in doing so. We could bout about the banes and boons of third-wave feminism, 'white-knighting', rape culture, et al all day long, but ultimately, my ego isn't so fragile that I really care about being judged for being muscular or ostensibly 'scary'. I really don't care.

So it all comes down to a personal ethical decision: I don't like making people feel uncomfortable, their possible misconceptions about me notwithstanding. So, yeah, I'll go out of my way to make someone feel safer. It's not about whether I should or shouldn't have to. I want to. That's me acting upon my enterprise as a man.

On a more conclusive note, my sentiments ultimately haven't anything to do with the sociological issues you're bringing into the picture. It's the maxim behind an action that is determinant in its implications and meaning - some guys go out of their way because they feel whatever shame you're talking about; I go out of my way to be polite.

Some people (namely women) simply don't like being cornered or followed by some random, huge dude in the middle of the night. If they're stereotyping me by feeling that way, oh well. I'm more concerned with my actions and beliefs, not others'.
 
I think you're taking the apologist route. You shouldn't have to take extra action not to offend others because of how you look. People that have fears like that should be getting help. If someone thinks you're a monster justifying that logic by you taking action to 'help' protect them from you isn't rational. I'm also a very large guy that goes to the gym and has pride in my looks and body and I'm not a monster because of it or should behave with shame for it. If I'm moving away from someone on the street it's because THEY are acting strange. If someone needs to cross the street to avoid me so be it that's their right but I won't take actions that enforce a persons belief that they are somehow being victimized by my simple presence.

You're just reinforcing bigoted stereotypes that people are building about you from your appearance. This is white knighting that promotes intersectionality.

tl;dr People with mental hangups need to get help. Helping them in the way your mention only validate their bigoted logic.

Just wanted you to consider this from a viewpoint you do you.

@SMuser69 - I don't intend this to be directed at you specifically, but would like to Tex's viewpoint.

Despite the fact that you, Tex, and the majority of men in the world may be totally benign, courteous, and respectful, this is a case where the "few bad apples" ruin it for everyone. In the same way that although I live in a very safe neighborhood, I still lock my doors at night; this shouldn't be seen as me being "bigoted" against my neighbors or that I am irrational, but just being prudent.

Even the most rational and open minded man would (I believe) think that his daughter or sister or mother should be wary of a shadowy hooded figure lurking behind them in a darkened parking lot. And that may be an extreme example, but the fact remains that this kind of mental calculation of "is this guy shady enough that I should be wary of him?" is something that does go through a woman's head all the time. I say it's easier for men to take the "get over it" or "equality" road in this argument because let's face it - the repercussions for us if we make the wrong calculation is nowhere near as bad.

It's not about stereotyping men or trying to shame men. It's about recognizing that people have certain anxieties, and if it's no big deal for you to do a small thing like a cough to alleviate just a little bit of that anxiety, then it's just the friendly/neighborly thing to do.

Also, I'll just leave this here:

 
@SMuser69 - I don't intend this to be directed at you specifically, but would like to Tex's viewpoint.

Despite the fact that you, Tex, and the majority of men in the world may be totally benign, courteous, and respectful, this is a case where the "few bad apples" ruin it for everyone. In the same way that although I live in a very safe neighborhood, I still lock my doors at night; this shouldn't be seen as me being "bigoted" against my neighbors or that I am irrational, but just being prudent.

Even the most rational and open minded man would (I believe) think that his daughter or sister or mother should be wary of a shadowy hooded figure lurking behind them in a darkened parking lot. And that may be an extreme example, but the fact remains that this kind of mental calculation of "is this guy shady enough that I should be wary of him?" is something that does go through a woman's head all the time. I say it's easier for men to take the "get over it" or "equality" road in this argument because let's face it - the repercussions for us if we make the wrong calculation is nowhere near as bad.

It's not about stereotyping men or trying to shame men. It's about recognizing that people have certain anxieties, and if it's no big deal for you to do a small thing like a cough to alleviate just a little bit of that anxiety, then it's just the friendly/neighborly thing to do.

Also, I'll just leave this here:



Thanks for the input. This captured my sentiments far better than my last post did. This is pretty much what I'm trying to say here.
 
I'm really enjoying reading this discussion!

I wanted to add my two cents for consideration:

Since I was a young girl I have been taught and socially conditioned to go out of my way and take a lot of extra steps to keep myself safe in public. If I fail to take any of these steps and something bad was to happen to me, I would immediately be asked why I didn't do XYZ to protect myself. The implication being that if someone attacks me, it is first my fault before the attacker. It feels pretty demoralizing to be raped then when you tell someone and the first thing they ask is what you were wearing/had you been drinking.

Here is a few of the extra steps that I and loads of other women take everyday to keep themselves safe:

- Every time I get dressed I do a bunch of tests (check if sheer in different lights, bending over, stretching arms, etc) to see if my clothes are going to cause someone to think I am "asking for it". Often this is futile; the worst street harassment I ever received happened when I was wearing a giant winter coat.

- Walk at night with what my friends and I call Wolverine Keys in case you need to use them as a weapon. This is where you put your keys between your fingers and make a fist giving your hand a Wolverine appearance.

- Stay in well light areas even if that means taking the long way home

- Having a system with your friends to make sure you all get home safely and get very anxious if someone forgets

- Have cab drivers who use the time alone with you to ask you creepy questions about your love and sex life to drop you off a few blocks from your home because you don't want them to know where you live

- Speaking of cabs, the first thing you do upon entering them is locate the information stating their cab number, etc in case something goes wrong.

- Wear headphones with nothing playing to discourage men from talking to you while still being able to be very aware of your surroundings (this can backfire however because the headphones may make your look like an easier target as you appear to be less aware)

- Have a series of safety texts you agree to send to a friend at regular intervals when you go on a first date. If you miss one of these texts they are to assume you are in danger and act accordingly.

- Get severe anxiety about opening FB messages, texts, dms, etc because if a man who wants your attention sees you read something without replying he might become very hostile. However, if you do respond, even to politely decline, it can backfire by causing them to think any attention means they have a chance or they might become very hostile. This one is very difficult to win. Sometimes the messages are just immediately hostile or offensive before you've even done anything yet.

- Be very careful about who you choose to sit next to on public transit.

- Getting off at stops that aren't yours because someone on the bus was making you uncomfortable.

- Getting back on the bus even if it is your stop because you notice said person getting off too.

I could go on forever, but this post is already too long.

Basically, the point I'm trying to make is that ideally we would live in a world where no one needs to take extra steps. But, until we figure that out, if men could take a few extra steps to help women feel more safe around them, it would go a long way towards that goal by changing the atmosphere.
 
I'm really enjoying reading this discussion!

I wanted to add my two cents for consideration:

Since I was a young girl I have been taught and socially conditioned to go out of my way and take a lot of extra steps to keep myself safe in public. If I fail to take any of these steps and something bad was to happen to me, I would immediately be asked why I didn't do XYZ to protect myself. The implication being that if someone attacks me, it is first my fault before the attacker. It feels pretty demoralizing to be raped then when you tell someone and the first thing they ask is what you were wearing/had you been drinking.

Here is a few of the extra steps that I and loads of other women take everyday to keep themselves safe:

- Every time I get dressed I do a bunch of tests (check if sheer in different lights, bending over, stretching arms, etc) to see if my clothes are going to cause someone to think I am "asking for it". Often this is futile; the worst street harassment I ever received happened when I was wearing a giant winter coat.

- Walk at night with what my friends and I call Wolverine Keys in case you need to use them as a weapon. This is where you put your keys between your fingers and make a fist giving your hand a Wolverine appearance.

- Stay in well light areas even if that means taking the long way home

- Having a system with your friends to make sure you all get home safely and get very anxious if someone forgets

- Have cab drivers who use the time alone with you to ask you creepy questions about your love and sex life to drop you off a few blocks from your home because you don't want them to know where you live

- Speaking of cabs, the first thing you do upon entering them is locate the information stating their cab number, etc in case something goes wrong.

- Wear headphones with nothing playing to discourage men from talking to you while still being able to be very aware of your surroundings (this can backfire however because the headphones may make your look like an easier target as you appear to be less aware)

- Have a series of safety texts you agree to send to a friend at regular intervals when you go on a first date. If you miss one of these texts they are to assume you are in danger and act accordingly.

- Get severe anxiety about opening FB messages, texts, dms, etc because if a man who wants your attention sees you read something without replying he might become very hostile. However, if you do respond, even to politely decline, it can backfire by causing them to think any attention means they have a chance or they might become very hostile. This one is very difficult to win. Sometimes the messages are just immediately hostile or offensive before you've even done anything yet.

- Be very careful about who you choose to sit next to on public transit.

- Getting off at stops that aren't yours because someone on the bus was making you uncomfortable.

- Getting back on the bus even if it is your stop because you notice said person getting off too.

I could go on forever, but this post is already too long.

Basically, the point I'm trying to make is that ideally we would live in a world where no one needs to take extra steps. But, until we figure that out, if men could take a few extra steps to help women feel more safe around them, it would go a long way towards that goal by changing the atmosphere.

I agree with rebelle and tex. I no longer go out in regular clothing(jeans, shirt,cute stuff) because in my section of the world it has caused random men to literally pull a u-turn, follow me home, and drive up next to me asking if I need help carrying my groceries or, "do you need a ride?".

I'm not even hot. I keep my eyes down. I wear headphones. And I still get creepers who follow me. Maybe it's the area I live in, it's been deemed the bad part of town. But I walk everywhere because I don't have a vehicle.

I've resorted to only going out in baggy men's sweatpants, an oversized hoodie, no makeup, and it still happens.

I don't expect men to cross the street because I've already been conditioned to walk with my head down and let them bump into me when they push me off the side walk.

I don't see myself as a victim despite being an assault survivor. My reality is different than any man's big or small. To discredit women's experience by saying we need help for our fear seems a bit callous.
 
I've resorted to only going out in baggy men's sweatpants, an oversized hoodie, no makeup, and it still happens.

I do this, too. I take it a step further and try my damndest to look as disgusting as possible if I leave the house alone. Messy hair, dirty/stained clothes, skip showering/deodorant so I smell a little bit. My favorite sweatpants to wear to the grocery store have a big-ass bleach stain down one leg, and pockets so I can stick my wallet, phone, and keys in them and not bother with a purse.
 
If I saw a cam model that I have interacted out in public it would probably mean they were stalking me, otherwise I don't see why they would come a small town in northern Sweden. Anyway I don't think I would walk up and say hello, because if I don't do that with real celebrities that I have interacted with briefly through work I don't see why I would do it with a cam model.
 
This is just how I personally would react in a situation like this.
If you knew me from cam and were an active part of my "cam world", if I would be able to place who you were by username and recall tips/shows/interactions we have had online, I would be very cordial with you if you approached me truthfully and respectfully. I would have a brief conversation with you and then probably be on my way. No "seeing where things go".
If you knew me from cam and weren't an active participant, I would have absolutely no interest, zero, none, zip, in interacting with you at all.

If I found out that someone tried to befriend me because they secretly knew me from cam, I would cut them out of my life so fast their head would spin and then block the entire region.

This is similar how it happened with me and someone I got to know from online. I've shared this before here, so it's nothing new...

One gal with a relatively large online personality and folloing, I got to know through a site, lives in the same state I do. She didn't hide the state, only the location. We have a few things in common, so it became natural for us to chat more with one another about a few things via PM's. Over time, we started talking about places we go, and I saw a picture of her in a bar that I thought was one i go to regularly. I casually asked her about it, and she said it was from one further out in her area. But, she knew of the bar I inquired about and said she goes there occasionally.

This particular bar is one that I work near, and would go to after work on Friday as they play live music. Add to it, that I had come to know a few different people there. Staff and patrons. So, was a weekly hangout for me at the end of the work week. Good food. Good drinks. Good company and music. What's not to like, and keep me from going regularly? Especially when I know a few people there and it's my end of week wind-down situation.

One evening I'm there, and happen to see someone that looks like her. But, didn't give it much of a thought thinking it couldn't be. After she passed me a few times (I was sitting at the bar), I was fairly confident it was her. But, she was with people and I didn't want to make a scene or bother her since she was with people. So, I waited until the next day when I was online and politely inquired. Citing where I was sitting, what happened, and how I thought it was her. But, wasn't certain and really didn't want to bother her since she was there with others. She admitted it was her, and we chatted a bit about it and it is kind of an ongoing joke now between us as we're now friends in IRL as well.

To be clear, none of this would've happened if I didn't have a long-standing positive interaction with her first and foremost. Beyond that, I was respectful of her and her time the first time I saw her. Instead of physically approaching her, I did it privately and politely.

Honestly, I wont even approach athletes or celebrities that I might recognize elsewhere. The reason why is that I think they get bothered by enough people that I'd rather just let them be. I would smile and say "Hi" to them. But, that's about it as I don't want to intrude on someone else's life.
 
I'm wondering why the model in question has not blocked her own city? The only reason I can see for the OP to let her know he saw her is to send an email or PM and suggest she block the locality.
 
I'm wondering why the model in question has not blocked her own city? The only reason I can see for the OP to let her know he saw her is to send an email or PM and suggest she block the locality.

Depending on the site, it might not be at a city level block and may only be state or country. If at all depending on the site she's camming from. I'd hope all sites have block rights.
 
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I'm wondering why the model in question has not blocked her own city? The only reason I can see for the OP to let her know he saw her is to send an email or PM and suggest she block the locality.

Depending on the site a lot of models don't block their location.
Some sites only allow you to block states/large regions and not individual cities, at which point it can be very disadvantageous especially if you live in a large area. On a site like Streamate blocking any area at all will result in a huge loss of income, you stop being visible on the main page to any new users and therefore stop being able to convert anyone, which will cause placement to drop, etc. It's a slippery slope.
 
Depending on the site a lot of models don't block their location.
Some sites only allow you to block states/large regions and not individual cities, at which point it can be very disadvantageous especially if you live in a large area. On a site like Streamate blocking any area at all will result in a huge loss of income, you stop being visible on the main page to any new users and therefore stop being able to convert anyone, which will cause placement to drop, etc. It's a slippery slope.

Wow. That plainly puts models at risk. I don't suppose there is a models' professional association or union that could pressure the sites to improve blocking options?
 
Wow. That plainly puts models at risk. I don't suppose there is a models' professional association or union that could pressure the sites to improve blocking options?

I believe it's really a limitation of IP address-based blocking. IP addresses are issued in large chunks to ISPs. And the ISP will dole out those IPs to people in their coverage area. So for example, Comcast might give out IP addresses beginning in 233.xxx.xxx.xxx and 234.xxx.xxx.xxx to people in one region (for example a county, or more commonly an entire state). There's nothing that requires an ISP to give out a certain block of IP addresses to people of a certain city.
 
I believe it's really a limitation of IP address-based blocking. IP addresses are issued in large chunks to ISPs. And the ISP will dole out those IPs to people in their coverage area. So for example, Comcast might give out IP addresses beginning in 233.xxx.xxx.xxx and 234.xxx.xxx.xxx to people in one region (for example a county, or more commonly an entire state). There's nothing that requires an ISP to give out a certain block of IP addresses to people of a certain city.

It's easier for ISP's to give out IP's based on location. In large cities, it's easy to grant larger network segments. But, in rural parts of the the same area, they might struggle to fill a smaller due to how sparse the population is.
 
Wow. That plainly puts models at risk. I don't suppose there is a models' professional association or union that could pressure the sites to improve blocking options?

HAH. No. Even with better blocking options people are more frequently using VPNs so it doesn't matter much in the end anyway.
 
I'm wondering why the model in question has not blocked her own city? The only reason I can see for the OP to let her know he saw her is to send an email or PM and suggest she block the locality.

For all we know, OP is using a VPN to watch her so it doesn't help to block locations anyway.
 
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