I am new to camming and haven't started any private shows yet but a lot of viewers are asking for them. What do you think is a acceptable price for a new fairly inexperienced model?. Do you base your prices on followers?.
I base my price on place in page, 3 years ago when I was on top of the first page I used to have 120tk/ min, now I m still on first page but down so I go with 90tk/min but first year when I start camming I had 18 or 30 tk/ minute ( 18 with no toys and beginner english ). Good luckI am new to camming and haven't started any private shows yet but a lot of viewers are asking for them. What do you think is a acceptable price for a new fairly inexperienced model?. Do you base your prices on followers?.
This was going to be my next question. I wanted to charge less for guys who just wanted to chat but more for a sexy show. I presumably would just change it in the settings before the show starts?.I base my price on place in page, 3 years ago when I was on top of the first page I used to have 120tk/ min, now I m still on first page but down so I go with 90tk/min but first year when I start camming I had 18 or 30 tk/ minute ( 18 with no toys and beginner english ). Good luck
It's difficult to know what page I am on as I have blocked my region. I thought the page came with viewers but it seems a bit messed up with people with no viewers on page 2 and more further on later pages.I base my price on place in page, 3 years ago when I was on top of the first page I used to have 120tk/ min, now I m still on first page but down so I go with 90tk/min but first year when I start camming I had 18 or 30 tk/ minute ( 18 with no toys and beginner english ). Good luck
The viewers keep pushing for privates but I have said I am going to wait until I upgrade the equipment. Do you class vanilla shows as no insertion of toys?. I have contacted the ex last weekend and he his going to be my 'victim'. He jumped at the chance as you can imagine. He seemed to know rather a lot about it and I have a feeling he was a viewer a lot longing than he let on .I think you should base your prices on what you are comfortable with, and the quality of the show you are putting on. And that is more about your equipment than your "experience." Are you streaming with a fast reliable connection, on a great camera in HD, using a good mic, with excellent lighting? Lots of factors to consider.
If you are putting vanilla shows on, I don't think experience really has much to do with it. Milk that new performer thing while you've got it, why should it be a disadvantage? The only time I feel experience has an impact is when you are learning something new, like trying out a new fetish/kink thing and you need a willing victim to be your guinea pig or something. I have not done this myself but I've seen some performers talk about doing so and I suppose that makes sense if that is what you feel like doing.
Just a viewer, maybe you could have a base charge for all privates, but clearly state that it only covers chat and that any action during the private is tip based. I know some of the tip menu bots gives you the option of switching between 2 different menus, you could have one for public shows, then switch to another during privates.This was going to be my next question. I wanted to charge less for guys who just wanted to chat but more for a sexy show. I presumably would just change it in the settings before the show starts?.
When I said vanilla, I just meant regular whatever sexy stuff, nothing that requires further knowledge than you already have. Like kinky shit you might not be fully schooled on but want to experiment with or something, maybe that is the time to offer a discounted rate since you are still educating yourself and getting your bearings. It is my personal opinion that no one needs "experience" to put on a sexy show, dancing around, stripping, teasing, masturbating however you like. That stuff, you don't need to learn how to do to charge what you want! So I think it's fair to charge whatever you please for that. You already know how to be your hot self!vanilla shows
I'd say start off at 60, unless you have a decent audience then try higher. Also keep in mind that it's better to try out a higher rate and lower it then to do the reverse, because people will question why you are suddenly raising your prices.
The amount of followers shouldn't be a factor in your pricing, what you need to consider is how many tks per minute will make it worth your time to be out of public view for the length of a Pvt show.
When it comes to having different prices for different things, I would also consider that you won't have as many spies in a Pvt with someone who's just looking to chat, so keep that in mind when pricing.
A few have said they prefer inexperienced models
This ^^^^^^.. Don't feel like "oh, well he just wants to chat about life so he should pay less" No bb, he is taking your time and that's what he is choosing to do with that time.
so when I did go to camsites, I enjoyed newbies cus they felt more authenthic than a model who had done it for a long time. Had nothing to do with beeing predatory. Just felt that I had more fun together with new models. And usually would spend many hours just chit chating about different things before anything sexual. Also a new model hasent heard the same stories a 100 times so they feel more engaged. Might be i ran into the wrong experience models though idkI bet they do. This is a red flag to me. Might be fine, but this screams "I like to take advantage of newbies" and feels predatory af. Do take care with these people and don't let them pressure you into doing things you don't want to do. People will try to push your boundaries. Remain firm, but you can also do it sexily. "Sorry, I don't do x, but I can do y" said in a sexy voice while you do y. If they don't respect you, refuse to do privates with them in the future and maybe even ban depending on how you feel.
Lmfao why do you think they were chatting with you forever, because they were hoping some money would come out of it, and were too scared to draw a boundary with you Authentic? Hahahahahahaha. Sorry man.so when I did go to camsites, I enjoyed newbies cus they felt more authenthic than a model who had done it for a long time. Had nothing to do with beeing predatory. Just felt that I had more fun together with new models. And usually would spend many hours just chit chating about different things before anything sexual. Also a new model hasent heard the same stories a 100 times so they feel more engaged. Might be i ran into the wrong experience models though idk
Ofcourse they where hoping money come out of it duh, id assume that 99.99999% cam purely for money. I didnt haggle prices, didnt ask for stuff they didn't do or wasent comfortable with. But sure in some way both members and models exploit eachother i guess..also when I said chit chat for many hours u was talking about in private ofcourse. Calling that predatory time wasting. Then everything is. But ill assume u thought I ment in free chatLmfao why do you think they were chatting with you forever, because they were hoping some money would come out of it, and were too scared to draw a boundary with you Authentic? Hahahahahahaha. Sorry man.
I do appreciate that that is the funniest shit I've read all day though.
You just pretty much defined predatory time wasting.
This ^^^^^^.
To be frank, when you get the ones with all the life problems who wanna talk about their recent break-up or their problems with their wife, I'd rather do a straight sex show anyways. I'm always tempted to charge those guys more, not less! Or the ones who want to try to have a conversation where they push boundaries and fish for personal information all the time. Again, to me, that's more exhausting than a simple JOI session, or something more directly related to nudity and masturbation.
If it's just a decent, funny, or interesting conversation sure, but that time could have been spent doing a sex show, so charging less is not something that makes sense to me. At least the same amount, so as not to screw yourself over.
Lol, for all you know those "talking" guys could come here and start one of those threads where they say "we only talked, she never did anything sexual, she charged me less than others. Am I crazy to think she might be in Love w me? I'm thinking of having her face tattoed on my penis tomorrow, what do you guys think?".
Dude, you never know what goes or is going to go through people's minds.
You are saying you paid for several hours of chat so that you could have a better show? That's interesting.Ofcourse they where hoping money come out of it duh, id assume that 99.99999% cam purely for money. I didnt haggle prices, didnt ask for stuff they didn't do or wasent comfortable with. But sure in some way both members and models exploit eachother i guess..also when I said chit chat for many hours u was talking about in private ofcourse. Calling that predatory time wasting. Then everything is. But ill assume u thought I ment in free chat
Usually, the case is that there are lots of guys who want to chat first and have a connection. It does make the show better. That's true.
But they can't afford to do that with the more experienced models, so they go with newer models who will charge them less for it. That's how it works. Then when the model gets some confidence and raises her rates, it's just not that "authentic" or "real" anymore lol.
Where did i say I was taking models with lower rates? Might be u assume all new models have lower rate or think I dont want to pay. I don't mind paying for a good time be it talking or sexual or both. I just prefer new models, if it's 30tok per min or 120 doesent really matter to me.You are saying you paid for several hours of chat so that you could have a better show? That's interesting.
Wait... who would have lower rates for that...oh yeah... that would be new models. Not predatory at all.
Usually, the case is that there are lots of guys who want to chat first and have a connection. It does make the show better. That's true.
But they can't afford to do that with the more experienced models, so they go with newer models who will charge them less for it. That's how it works. Then when the model gets some confidence and raises her rates, it's just not that "authentic" or "real" anymore lol.
I'm sorry that you had that experience. The fact it made you laugh and you realized what was going on is kind of funny though. Yes, it's definitely best (as a model) not to log on if you are super distracted or cannot commit to giving a private your full attention.This is what I will always usually do but in public and tipping. It's nice to get a good idea of if our humour is the same since I really do enjoy a woman who can laugh and enjoys - I understand sometimes you can simply catch a model on a bad/off day.
Quite recently I didn't do this and just took a model in a show... I can say it was the worst show I have ever had because I clearly caught her on a bad/off day (or I think it is a one-off) haha.
Here is why:
Firstly, even though we were doing what we were doing (just vanilla sex and it was cam2cam), she would constantly be looking away from the screen and from what is happening but not in an intended rude way. You could see that her mind was distracted by something else (I mean from something I real life, or so it seemed). Her mind & eyes would literally just wander and she would stop playing/touching etc as it happened, so obviously this didn't make the experience enjoyable at all, but to top it off at the end, which made it worse for me, she did the worst fake orgasm I have ever seen - she came right close to the camera and just showed her eyes and did a fake over-exaggerated eye roll... I had to pan my camera down to just my dick because it made me laugh, and then I couldn't finish because I was laughing at how bad it was so then I had to fake it too hahaha.
That was also the very first time I didn't leave a 5/5 rating for a model - I gave her neutral (3/5) for it (this was on Stripchat).
You see a model in a private show for 2, 3, or 4 hours (or more) and then afterwards you learn it was no sex, just talking.
But what I learned is the women find it difficult because you have to pretend to give a shit about what is being said throughout. Sometimes, some things, of course, you may find interesting and want to ask genuine questions about, but a lot of things are not like this and you just want to fall asleep, but you have to maintain that pretend interest for HOURS haha.
And what I also know and learned is that these shows are MUCH more exhausting for the model
so when I did go to camsites, I enjoyed newbies cus they felt more authenthic than a model who had done it for a long time. Had nothing to do with beeing predatory. Just felt that I had more fun together with new models. And usually would spend many hours just chit chating about different things before anything sexual. Also a new model hasent heard the same stories a 100 times so they feel more engaged.
Might be i ran into the wrong experience models though idk
Wait, people actually discuss privates with each other or is it more of a joking thing and you really don't know what's going on in there? Like, I have a thing whereby I'll mention I do book readings and Bible studies in privates (have actually done the former) but I pass it off as a joke. I don't want anyone to know what happened because it's really none of their business and an individual's privacy is pretty important to me.
Wait, people actually discuss privates with each other or is it more of a joking thing and you really don't know what's going on in there?
It all depends. It depends on the page and what you think your show is worth. It also depends on the exclusivity and innovation you offer, this has value.I am new to camming and haven't started any private shows yet but a lot of viewers are asking for them. What do you think is a acceptable price for a new fairly inexperienced model?. Do you base your prices on followers?.
I always just max out on the highest amount. The way I see it is that there's only ONE of you on this entire planet. So if people want a private with you, they'll pay for it. If they can't afford it, they'll save up for it and make it a special thing. My point here is that I think (this is what's true in my world, anyways) super low prices attract cheap people and that it's good to be expensive.I am new to camming and haven't started any private shows yet but a lot of viewers are asking for them. What do you think is a acceptable price for a new fairly inexperienced model?. Do you base your prices on followers?.