Pornstars

[Misterie]

I did ask myself that the other day since a site referred to me as a porn star. This kinda made me laugh, because A. I am no star and B. I dont think what I do is porn.

There is a big social factor involved sitting behind a cam or being on a site like mygirlfund. It is not just a movie being shot it is interaction between you and other people. Your character, charisma and funnyness is also needed to be succesfull. While in my opinion; porn is more or less just the sexy side of it. Making a porn movie requires skills but not really social skills. You could do a porn movie without even talking. Being a Camgirl does involve talking, typing and smiling. If you would be a pornstar without talking or interacting on a site like MFC, my guess is you wont be doing that well.

So no I dont consider myself doing porn, I consider myself more like a sexy social worker and entertainer. :-D

 

[fuzzy44bunny]

As a viewer, I tend to think of the term 'porn star' as referring to any person who appears in any form of media in a context whose primary purpose is to elicit a sexual reaction from the viewer, provided that they are showing more skin than would be generally permitted in western society (e.g. breasts, genitals, full buttocks). Granted, there are grey areas. There are some girls who cam, for example, but who don't really do cum shows and focus more on eroticism and social interaction, and these aren't really 'porn stars.' But anyone who appears on video or the internet who regularly engages in stripping or masturbation or the like, things that are basically porn activities, I would probably qualify as a porn star.
Granted, this may not be in line with the more regular uses of the term. But as such, I would view any 'adult entertainer' who appears on cam or video or in pictures, to be a porn star. I mean, I would consider all those things to be porn, and they are in a starring role in it, so... the term fits. Of course, cam girls require additional skills to be successful (I at least will only watch girls who are able to provide a friendly interactive environment, which obviously 'traditional' porn stars don't need to do). Likewise traditional porn stars often have to rely on skills cam girls don't have to use as often (for example, some porn films involve a fair bit of acting).
Of course, I don't view 'porn star' as a negative term. Far from it, although many people in society probably do have some negative associated connotations. Then again, there are large segments of society that probably look down on camming and related activities too.
I can understand, of course, if some people prefer to use 'porn star' in a more specialized context; I however use it basically to refer to any adult entertainer on the internet. I hope I haven't offended anyone by my use of the term; it certainly isn't my intent for it to be taken offensively. I generally mean it in a complimentary fashion, really. But maybe my broad use of 'porn star' is confusing? I have no idea. I completely understand why cam girls might want to differentiate themselves from the traditional notion of 'porn star,' for example.

EDIT: Just to add, I reserve the term 'porn actress/actor' for adult entertainers who act in mainstream porn. I would say that most camgirls are porn stars, but not porn actresses (you are only an actress if what you do involves a mainstream production with multiple takes for a scene and the possibility of having to actually recite lines, etc.). Maybe most people would use 'porn star' the way I use 'porn actress.'

 

[Thomas0878]

I really don't consider cam girls to be porn stars. Yes, they work in the adult industry. But, to me... it isn't the same. IDK. When I think of a porn star, I imagine someone like Joanna Angel or Jesse Jane.

Maybe it is because I am older and we didn't have all the cam sites and Internet out there when I was younger. But, of course... that is my opinion.

 

[Ladybee_]

I hear the term 'adult entertainment' being mentioned in this thread and for me that's all camming is. Its a form of entertainment. Personally I don't feel like what I do is pornographic because to me pornography is explicit in nature and while I have done 'cum shows' and do get naked, I feel the way I perform is in a more suggestive way than explicit. Perhaps I am just telling myself this as a way to secretly feel better about what I do and less ashamed? haha, but in all honesty it doesn't feel like porn (in the way I perceive it to be).

 

[PixieVenom]

It's curious that I ran into this topic today. I don't consider myself a pornstar, I mean, I take my clothes off and do videos but I don't think I am a pornstar. But this morning when I got on my twitter account I saw a company was following me and their motto was "we represent the best pornstars in the world" and I just remember thinking why would they want to follow me if I am a cam girl and not a pornstar. I guess some people consider us to be pornstars

 

[Username?]

Pornographic...if what a model does on cam is pornographic AND is well known in the Girl Cam world I'd suggest that the title of Pornstar would fit, but Pornstars are generally stars of the adult movie business and however popular a cam model is they'll never have the same profile as adult film stars...camming doesn't have the same public profile as the adult film industry and it's performers, but when it does and the mainstream media takes notice then we will see famous Cam Girls (hopefully not a female Ron Jeremy). Personally I like the secretive aspect to camming, it adds a certain frisson.

 

[AmberCutie]

Pornographic...if what a model does on cam is pornographic AND is well known in the Girl Cam world I'd suggest that the title of Pornstar would fit, but Pornstars are generally stars of the adult movie business and however popular a cam model is they'll never have the same profile as adult film stars...camming doesn't have the same public profile as the adult film industry and it's performers, but when it does and the mainstream media takes notice then we will see famous Cam Girls (hopefully not a female Ron Jeremy). Personally I like the secretive aspect to camming, it adds a certain frisson.

I agree.

The moment I have an actual IMDB page featuring the videos I've made I'll give in to being called a pornstar. But considering any pornstar you come across on IMDB has "actress" next to their name, and I will never be, nor consider myself to be, and actress, I find this highly unlikely. :thumbleft:

You can argue that what cam girls do is amateur porn, the acts we do on camera are pornographic, but there is a distinct difference between an actual pornstar and a cam girl. It's. Just. Different.

 

[Brad]

Although this is under "ask-a-model," I wouldn't mind guys opinions on it, too.
Ladies: Do you consider yourselves "pornstars?" Why/why not?
Guys: Do you consider all cam models pornstars? Just the nude ones? Just the nude and popular ones? Or would you not use that word to describe any camgirls? Why/why not?

Do I consider all cam girls porn stars? Nope. Not at all. One could discuss the semantics and I'm sure a case could be made in some literal sense but my personal opinion is that a porn star is one who has done a number of professionally produced films (movies, videos, whatever you want to call them) that include sexual acts between two or more people. And the star part of that means they are a well known name or at least well known in the industry.

Maybe it is due to my age but it seems that there are far less actual stars in porn then there were in the past. I know amateur stuff has become more popular and I would expect that cam girls have also grabbed some of that market. I grew up with Seca, Marilyn Chambers, Vanessa Del Rio ( a personal favorite), Christy Cannon (another fave), Nina Hartley, Ginger Lynn (very nice local girl I actually met once), etc. To me those are porn stars.
:thumbleft:

If asked to describe them I would consider cam girls as adult entertainers or simply as models.
:-D

 

[mynameisbob84]

They're definitely not the same thing. I mean, I don't think they are, ya know? Cam girls and porn stars both work in the adult entertainment industry and pornographic content is a staple of both professions... but they're not the same thing.

It's like musicians and record producers. They're both a part of the music industry, and they both create musical content, but they have different functions and therefore, aren't the same thing.

Porn stars are actresses (and actors) who are paid to have sex on cam, with the end product being distributed for profit.
Cam girls are people who provide live entertainment, generally of a sexual nature, in exchange for money.

I don't think either profession provides its workers with any "moral high ground" over the other. Both professions require its workers to (generally speaking) provide entertainment of a pornographic nature for their audience. Whether you're having sex with another person in front of a camera or fucking yourself with a dildo in front of 500 people on the internet; it's still, by definition, pornography. And to be clear, there's nothing remotely wrong with either; I've just seen a few folk in this thread try to distance themselves from the term 'pornography' as if it's a dirty word and something that applies to porn stars but not them :twocents-02cents:

 

[Eddie77]

You know, I have a simple answer to this that comes down to type of individual. I 'met' numerous girls in the industry when I was a member of Streammate. In almost every case---there was an arrogance that was an extreme turn off. I hate arrogance and I hate a patronizing attitude. That attitude not only manifested itself in the outrageous price-per-minute for private category, but also via general approach when dealing with the public.
But it is rare when I get that 'full of yourself' mentality from a cam model. Do I think there is a difference between the two? Certainly. Both are dealing in fantasy but cam models rely a bit more in the viewer filling in the blanks with his or her imagination than does a porn star.
Just my two cents.

 

[ReynaMae]

I consider myself a pornstar. I have been in the industry for 10 years. I have been published in many magazines. Covers, centerfolds, features. I have been published by several companies on their dvds. I have been paid for my work. I am easily searchable on freeones and other sites listing adult stars.

That being said, I understand the confusion. LOTS of girls call themselves a pornstar when they shouldn't. This is a title that is EARNED. You don't give it to yourself. If you've only been on dvds that you sell yourself, if you've never been published, if most people don't know who you are, if you've never been paid, then you are not a pornstar.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with adapting the title. For instance, DiamondJames is a long time friend of mine. We started camming on the same sites around the same time. She has never been published (as far as I know) but has a huge internet presence and is a stellar example of a quality cam girl. She calls herself an "Internet Pornstar" and for her that is an apt title.

However, if you are just starting out and use the word pornstar, even in your twitter bio, beware. You will attract some amount of scorn from those of us who have paved the way.

 

[ReynaMae]

THANK YOU! I get so tired of cam girls (some not all...Important not to generalize!) who act like the fact they fuck themselves on webcam for thousands of people to see is not pornography. LOL The holier than thou attitude has got to go. If you take your clothes off for the erotic entertainment of another human being and get paid for it, you are participating in pornography. I am guilty of this attitude sometimes too though. I get offended when people assume because I am a pornstar that I also escort. LOL

Not all pornstars are stuck up either. Saw that a few times on this thread. While I do charge more per minute than the average cam performer, my rate is only a dollar or so higher. I am told ALL THE TIME by other performers and customers that it should be higher. I like to be approachable and more accessible. No matter my resume. Please remember not to lump all of us into the same category good or bad. The thing that makes camming and porn great is our variety. The only thing that we truly have in common is our job title and or name of the site we work from.

They're definitely not the same thing. I mean, I don't think they are, ya know? Cam girls and porn stars both work in the adult entertainment industry and pornographic content is a staple of both professions... but they're not the same thing.

It's like musicians and record producers. They're both a part of the music industry, and they both create musical content, but they have different functions and therefore, aren't the same thing.

Porn stars are actresses (and actors) who are paid to have sex on cam, with the end product being distributed for profit.
Cam girls are people who provide live entertainment, generally of a sexual nature, in exchange for money.

I don't think either profession provides its workers with any "moral high ground" over the other. Both professions require its workers to (generally speaking) provide entertainment of a pornographic nature for their audience. Whether you're having sex with another person in front of a camera or fucking yourself with a dildo in front of 500 people on the internet; it's still, by definition, pornography. And to be clear, there's nothing remotely wrong with either; I've just seen a few folk in this thread try to distance themselves from the term 'pornography' as if it's a dirty word and something that applies to porn stars but not them :twocents-02cents:

 

[AnaVictoriaXO]

I consider myself a pornstar. I have been in the industry for 10 years. I have been published in many magazines. Covers, centerfolds, features. I have been published by several companies on their dvds. I have been paid for my work. I am easily searchable on freeones and other sites listing adult stars.

That being said, I understand the confusion. LOTS of girls call themselves a pornstar when they shouldn't. This is a title that is EARNED. You don't give it to yourself. If you've only been on dvds that you sell yourself, if you've never been published, if most people don't know who you are, if you've never been paid, then you are not a pornstar.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with adapting the title. For instance, DiamondJames is a long time friend of mine. We started camming on the same sites around the same time. She has never been published (as far as I know) but has a huge internet presence and is a stellar example of a quality cam girl. She calls herself an "Internet Pornstar" and for her that is an apt title.

However, if you are just starting out and use the word pornstar, even in your twitter bio, beware. You will attract some amount of scorn from those of us who have paved the way.

Unless you started out in porn when it first became a big thing, I dont understand how you "paved" anything...Id love to hear what you mean by that though....what exactly did you pave?

Yes, there absolutely is a difference between pornstars and cam girls. I fully agree. I dont feel the need to elaborate because I think a lot of posts here have already covered the differences in well stated ways.

But really, getting "scorn" simply because a girl uses it in her bio or calls herself that? That just seems really silly to get irritated over. I mean, if someone is as established as they say they are as a porn star than whats there to get mad over?

Im a cam model as well as a stripper (actual stripper in a club setting) and A LOT of cam girls call themselves strippers.They are completely different jobs. Sure, part of camming involves stripping but it still doesn't make you a "stripper". I suppose "internet stripper" would definitely fit better! Yet, I would never see a reason to get defensive, or even irritated because a girl calls herself one or uses this in her bio etc. Call yourself whatever the hell you want, its not hurting anyone.



Porn stars aren't better than cam girls just because they tend to have much larger audiences.
Cam girls aren't better than porn stars simply because we aren't being paid to have sex with different men.

There is nothing wrong with either.

If someone wants to be an escort, good for them. Someone wants to be a porn star? Good for them! Someone wants to be a webcam model, good for them! Same goes for any line of sex work...this hierarchy crap in sex work really needs to go.



Both professions are pornographic in nature. Here is the definition of pornography:

printed or visual material containing the explicit description or display of sexual organs or activity, intended to stimulate erotic rather than aesthetic or emotional feelings.

So yeah, I think what we do on cam is absolutely pornographic. But no, we aren't porn stars. :twocents-02cents:

 

[ReynaMae]

In an industry where so many performers come and go...women like myself do pave the way for others. You don't know me so you don't know the many things I have done. Here are a few:

I mentor new girls. MANY new girls over the years. I educate them about agents, contracts, how to set up a limits list, ferret out the bad companies and bullshitters, info about filing taxes and keeping records, std testing requirements, how to stand up for themselves yet be professional, how to negotiate fees and rates. In short, I train the new girls who ask for help. I promote them and encourage them. I give them realistic and correct information that helps them succeed and stay in the business. Because let's face it, it can be a tough one to be in. Especially if you are alone and getting conflicting information. I am able to do this because of my 10 years of experience. My effort, mistakes, successes, hard work and everything else all contribute to the overall success or failure of our industry.

Every time I represent myself well and interact with companies well, it sets a good example for other performers to follow and a standard for the companies on how to treat us. I, as well as some of the performers who have been around a long time have helped make or break cam and/or porn companies with our work. I am comfortable saying I have helped pave the way for other performers because I have.

I will feel scorn towards some newbie with a cam login and nothing else to her name calling herself a pornstar. Because I earned that title. I did not however say I would take it out on her as you imply. While I do agree that there should be more unity and less divisiveness in our industry, I do not think that we should all operate unilaterally and without respect and some sort of ethics. That is part of what keeps us from being taken seriously.

Though these things may have been covered in many different ways in this topic as you point out, I just joined this board and found the thoughts here interesting. My lateness to the thread does not negate the worth of my opinion or right to state it.

 

[AnaVictoriaXO]

In an industry where so many performers come and go...women like myself do pave the way for others. You don't know me so you don't know the many things I have done. Here are a few:

I mentor new girls. MANY new girls over the years. I educate them about agents, contracts, how to set up a limits list, ferret out the bad companies and bullshitters, info about filing taxes and keeping records, std testing requirements, how to stand up for themselves yet be professional, how to negotiate fees and rates. In short, I train the new girls who ask for help. I promote them and encourage them. I give them realistic and correct information that helps them succeed and stay in the business. Because let's face it, it can be a tough one to be in. Especially if you are alone and getting conflicting information. I am able to do this because of my 10 years of experience. My effort, mistakes, successes, hard work and everything else all contribute to the overall success or failure of our industry.

Every time I represent myself well and interact with companies well, it sets a good example for other performers to follow and a standard for the companies on how to treat us. I, as well as some of the performers who have been around a long time have helped make or break cam and/or porn companies with our work. I am comfortable saying I have helped pave the way for other performers because I have.

I will feel scorn towards some newbie with a cam login and nothing else to her name calling herself a pornstar. Because I earned that title. I did not however say I would take it out on her as you imply. While I do agree that there should be more unity and less divisiveness in our industry, I do not think that we should all operate unilaterally and without respect and some sort of ethics. That is part of what keeps us from being taken seriously.

Though these things may have been covered in many different ways in this topic as you point out, I just joined this board and found the thoughts here interesting. My lateness to the thread does not negate the worth of my opinion or right to state it.

I suppose I can see what you mean by "paved" now that you explained it....Which is why I asked. Wether I agree with the term or not, I DO see your point of view.

And perhaps you should re-read my post because no where did I imply that you would "take it out on" someone for using the term. Like I said, I just find it quite silly. You're entitled to your opinion and feelings, as am I :twocents-02cents:

While I do agree that there should be more unity and less divisiveness in our industry, I do not think that we should all operate unilaterally and without respect and some sort of ethics. That is part of what keeps us from being taken seriously.

100 percent agreed. And very well put! But let me point out that that was not directed at you, the last half of my post was simply MY opinion on the subject.

My lateness to the thread does not negate the worth of my opinion or right to state it.

Again, nowhere did I imply this. No need to be defensive :thumbleft:

 

[ReynaMae]

I am always learning - sometimes even from the very new girls. I am hoping to learn on this forum as much as teach

Glad we can have these conversations!

 

[AnaVictoriaXO]

This thread also made me think...I have "amateur smut peddler" on my blog description...and realize this is completely wrong

Definition of amateur: A person who engages in a pursuit, esp. a sport, on an unpaid basis.

So for any ladies who list themselves as amateur might want to rephrase it, lol. I mean, Im not getting paid to "make" the smut (unless its a custom video) but I certainly do receive payment from anyone who is wanting to view the content.

I am always learning - sometimes even from the very new girls. I am hoping to learn on this forum as much as teach

Glad we can have these conversations!

Definitely my favorite part of this forum. Most of the time (and pretty much all the time in the models only section, lol) were able to have debates and discussions that might even get heated but theyre mostly always civil and respectful. And in the camming forum world thats pretty damn rare!

 

[CCRhyder]

No. I haven't been in porn, I've had offers but that's not something I'd like to do.
What I do consider myself is an adult entertainer. Sometimes I have public/private sex shows, other nights I sing and dance on my ebike, or something as ridiculous as that. How I see it is the same as how one would watch talk show hosts on tv every night for their source of entertainment. What I do is exactly the same. I entertain, and sometimes bust a few nuts, really that's the only difference.

edit: I wont lie though, when I'm asked what movies I've been in or called a pornstar I do gush a little

 

[Albert_1]

It all falls under the sex worker umbrella to me, but pornstaring and camming seem to be very different beasts.

 

[LilyMarie]

By definition, pornography is all art and media that's meant to sexually arouse people.
So unless you're a non-nude model who doesn't do anything sexually arousing in her show, you do porn.
We are not stars, because we're not very well-known, compared to the actresses that people call 'porn stars'.
So - porn yes, stars no.

:twocents-02cents:

 

[timleve]

I have always called models on MFC cam models unless they often do more hardcore things like dildos etc. That becomes porn. I strongly believe you can be nude without being classed as porn though.

As for porn star.. I would say that is someone that has done a lot of videos or is quite well known.

 

[Kokoro]

Yes, I have acted in porn. No, I am not a porn star (yet) Although, my goal is to eventually become one. Its been a secret dream of mine for a long while now that I only just started to act upon.

I don't think I'll consider myself a porn star until I actually do something with a well known company or a big name in the industry.

I'm trying not to get too in over my head right now. :twocents-02cents:

 

[Alana Cruise]

For the guys. So I think the definition has been pretty well explained. I would venture to say porn stars the main difference is they are well known and get paid to have sex with others. Whereas cam models are not usually well known and typically do not get paid to have sex with strangers. The dynamics are different but it is porn yes.

I am wondering if a cam model did porn (not camming but actual pornos) would you be more likely, less likely, or doesnt factor in to join their rooms/support their camming?

I just wonder if the appeal of watching cam models is that we are not stars. We are the girls next door. Love to hear your thoughts.

 

[mynameisbob84]

For the guys. So I think the definition has been pretty well explained. I would venture to say porn stars the main difference is they are well known and get paid to have sex with others. Whereas cam models are not usually well known and typically do not get paid to have sex with strangers. The dynamics are different but it is porn yes.

I am wondering if a cam model did porn (not camming but actual pornos) would you be more likely, less likely, or doesnt factor in to join their rooms/support their camming?

I just wonder if the appeal of watching cam models is that we are not stars. We are the girls next door. Love to hear your thoughts.

The only way it would make a difference to me is if they became like, really, really well-known, to the point where their room became populated almost exclusively by guys who were there purely because they'd seen the model in porn. So instead of everyday conversation, there'd just be "Hey, are you so-and-so the famous porn star? What's it like being a porn star? Do you do anal? Is black cock really that big? Do you know Ron Jeremy? What about Jenna Jameson? Would you shoot a gangbang scene? Do you escort? I can pay you!" and so on and so forth.

Otherwise, who a cam girl fucks (be it their husband, boyfriend, dood they met at a bar or some guy on the set of a porno) is none of my concern and has no bearing on my ability to enjoy their company online :twocents-02cents:

 

[AllisonWilder]

The only way it would make a difference to me is if they became like, really, really well-known, to the point where their room became populated almost exclusively by guys who were there purely because they'd seen the model in porn. So instead of everyday conversation, there'd just be "Hey, are you so-and-so the famous porn star? What's it like being a porn star? Do you do anal? Is black cock really that big? Do you know Ron Jeremy? What about Jenna Jameson? Would you shoot a gangbang scene? Do you escort? I can pay you!" and so on and so forth.

Doesn't this happen anyway? :lol: With the exception of being asked about specific porn stars, I get asked all of those questions pretty regularly.

 

[ILikeUonTop]

I am wondering if a cam model did porn (not camming but actual pornos) would you be more likely, less likely, or doesnt factor in to join their rooms/support their camming?

Well, there are several porn stars or former porn stars on MFC and I have visited their rooms. That was my initial reason for going in there, name recognition, but it didn't make me stay. After the "Hey it's that porn star I like" factor wears off, she has to be a good cam model. For me, that's having a fun entertaining personality as well as being attractive. A lot of these stars don't do that for me so the porn fame wears thin quickly. If a cam model I was aware of went into porn and kept camming, it wouldn't make me go into her room if I wasn't already doing so.

 

[dilligaf0]

Pornographic...if what a model does on cam is pornographic AND is well known in the Girl Cam world I'd suggest that the title of Pornstar would fit, but Pornstars are generally stars of the adult movie business and however popular a cam model is they'll never have the same profile as adult film stars...camming doesn't have the same public profile as the adult film industry and it's performers, but when it does and the mainstream media takes notice then we will see famous Cam Girls (hopefully not a female Ron Jeremy). Personally I like the secretive aspect to camming, it adds a certain frisson.

I agree.

The moment I have an actual IMDB page featuring the videos I've made I'll give in to being called a pornstar. But considering any pornstar you come across on IMDB has "actress" next to their name, and I will never be, nor consider myself to be, and actress, I find this highly unlikely. :thumbleft:

You can argue that what cam girls do is amateur porn, the acts we do on camera are pornographic, but there is a distinct difference between an actual pornstar and a cam girl. It's. Just. Different.

If you refer to cam girls as pornographic, the you have to group strippers in adult clubs and bars the same way. There is a difference. :twocents-02cents:

 

[HiGirlsRHot]

For the guys. So I think the definition has been pretty well explained. I would venture to say porn stars the main difference is they are well known and get paid to have sex with others. Whereas cam models are not usually well known and typically do not get paid to have sex with strangers. The dynamics are different but it is porn yes.

I am wondering if a cam model did porn (not camming but actual pornos) would you be more likely, less likely, or doesnt factor in to join their rooms/support their camming?

I just wonder if the appeal of watching cam models is that we are not stars. We are the girls next door. Love to hear your thoughts.

Personally, I am more interested in seeing nude models, who I've seen in Playboy, Penthouse, Twisty etc, than just the girls next store.

I guess, my feel is that if they were hot enough to get into a men's magazine, or far more often been featured as the "covergirl" for the website, I am excited to see them as a camgirl. In the case of pornstar, other than superstars I really don't know most of their names, so I really don't care if a camgirl is a "famous" pornstar.

The one disadvantage of being a pornstar, if I am being honest is that I'd be less likely to buy their content. Why spend $20 for short often poorly lit amateur video, when I can go to a tube site and watch for free. Having said that most of the time when I buy a video, I am doing to support the model, not to add to my already extensive wanking material collection. If I ever got interested in porno model turned camgirl my attitude would probably change.

 

[Sevrin]

I don't think the term "porn star" is useful for anything but getting a laugh out of people at the office, anymore.

The girl who sells the most videos on Clips4Sale would probably qualify as a "porn star" by some criteria, but I have no idea who she might be. My idea of a "porn star" is someone like Ginger Lynn, Ron Jeremy or Jenna Jameson who made it big in the days of Penthouse and Hustler and then VHS and DVDs, back when that was that was the way most people consumed adult entertainment, and they became known outside of porn. Sasha Grey would probably still qualify under that definition. I could be way off there, but I don't pay much attention to mainstream porn, anymore.

I think terms like camgirl, porn actor, and stripper are more useful. If people who take an interest in cams, porn or stripping, have heard your name, you're also a "star". If they haven't, you're probably not.

 

[Alana Cruise]

Pornographic...if what a model does on cam is pornographic AND is well known in the Girl Cam world I'd suggest that the title of Pornstar would fit, but Pornstars are generally stars of the adult movie business and however popular a cam model is they'll never have the same profile as adult film stars...camming doesn't have the same public profile as the adult film industry and it's performers, but when it does and the mainstream media takes notice then we will see famous Cam Girls (hopefully not a female Ron Jeremy). Personally I like the secretive aspect to camming, it adds a certain frisson.

I agree.

The moment I have an actual IMDB page featuring the videos I've made I'll give in to being called a pornstar. But considering any pornstar you come across on IMDB has "actress" next to their name, and I will never be, nor consider myself to be, and actress, I find this highly unlikely. :thumbleft:

You can argue that what cam girls do is amateur porn, the acts we do on camera are pornographic, but there is a distinct difference between an actual pornstar and a cam girl. It's. Just. Different.

If you refer to cam girls as pornographic, the you have to group strippers in adult clubs and bars the same way. There is a difference. :twocents-02cents:

Strippers dont usually dildo themselves or have sex with other girls on stage