OHMIBOD is fake, lovense can be, but to a lesser extent; so what?

[SMuser69]

I know Lovense - and most of these remote-controlled toys - include an Android or IOS app for remote control. But which ones include a web-based URL for control?

How does that work? The model puts some registered userid on a vendor's web-site onto an approved list for control of the toy?

They streamlined it a bit. Now the model just can generate the link and the member can dump it into normal chrome and it will work.

Originally only the Max and Nora worked but the lush works as well now. Can't speak for the rest of them.

 

[zoober]

What even is your second point? Yes, I say models because that's who is using these. Every cam person in the industry can be referred to as a model so....??? If you think this is an "industry wide" thing, your scope of vision is incredibly narrow. Not even the majority of models use tip vibes.

Oh honey bee, here, put some reality in your pudding. Looking at the first page of chaturbate right now pretty much every model is using a tip activated toy. They in turn account for a disproportionate majority of the chaturbate audience.

Here, lets turn this around, cam girl folks on here, why you all pooh pooh any discussion of this?

And the difference is - regular show, ahh hell yeah a cam girl exaggerate and whoop it up. Bingo

But these toys - they say tip for X but X don;t happen, instead a cam girl typically jumps about

There's a difference

 

[zoober]

Also in regards to your third point, that discussion has been had here where it's been concluded that models can fake literally anything and everything. If you think the ability to "fake" it begins and ends at tip vibes you are incredibly mistaken.

Yes indeed. Sweety, I could demonstrate a fake anal dildo show, Romanian studio style, if so inclined. 'cept - that's fake Af and is why some models don;t get repeat business. This, however seems to be a fake on an altogether different scale

 

[AudriTwo]

lol u mad?

 

[zoober]

lol u mad?

I prefer the term 'alternatively skilled'

 

[NoelleBright]

Oh honey bee, here, put some reality in your pudding. Looking at the first page of chaturbate right now pretty much every model is using a tip activated toy. They in turn account for a disproportionate majority of the chaturbate audience.

Here, lets turn this around, cam girl folks on here, why you all pooh pooh any discussion of this?

And the difference is - regular show, ahh hell yeah a cam girl exaggerate and whoop it up. Bingo

But these toys - they say tip for X but X don;t happen, instead a cam girl typically jumps about

There's a difference

Then switch to MFC, where models using them is a rarity.

The only person who needs a dose of reality in their pudding here is you.

 

[n_i_c_u]

Come on Zoober, you know using words like "Sweety" and "honey bee" are used to create ire. I did like the "put some reality in your pudding" saying and the response back to you that played with that (where did you first hear that? I've never heard that before and I kind of think it is a funny thing to say).

Whenever a favorite model of mine goes to the omibod I let her know I am leaving. Some of her members like it because they can be cool while tipping one token for long walls. It stretches out the time they have with her and they feel good about dominating the room. I liked doing the omibod when I first saw it with her until I realized the tipping sound, while impressive in some instances, is not really a pleasant sound for me (I tip a lot silent with messaging these days with sometimes a some private and hidden thing going on /tip -phms 50 Thank you, can we get married? :mlol).

I believe the model that did the omibod with me because of the squirt thing (I don't know why squirting happens) that happened if I kept it up for a long long time.

 

[zoober]

Come on Zoober, you know using words like "Sweety" and "honey bee" are used to create ire. I did like the "put some reality in your pudding" saying (where did you first hear that?).

Ya caught me and yes I was. The pudding comment - made up on spot I'm afraid. As for honey bee - dunno. Disappeared in a puff of self-righteousness reading her last missive

 

[Ms_Gingersnatch]

So, which of the following is the problem?
1) You tip X to see a girl react to the vibe in a certain manner, but the exaggerations or outright faking are too obvious, which your cock finds unappealing, so you feel you didn't get the product you purchased;
2) You tip X to give a girl pleasure for a certain amount of time, but the exaggerations/faking lead you to believe that she isn't enjoying the pleasure that you paid to give her;
3) You hate the pink twat tail.

Would any of the following make you happier?
A) All reactions are convincing and the sort of reaction you would hope to see (non-cheesy porn-type reactions) - any faking is done with enough attention to detail that you can't tell the difference;
B) All toys are on and all reactions are real, which might mean that she enjoys the sensation with a purr and a smile rather than moaning, screaming, and squirming.
C) All rooms with an active twat tail are clearly labelled so you can avoid them before entering.

 

[NoelleBright]

And the difference is - regular show, ahh hell yeah a cam girl exaggerate and whoop it up. Bingo

But these toys - they say tip for X but X don;t happen, instead a cam girl typically jumps about

There's a difference

Where is the difference?!?!?!?!
A camgirl faking an orgasm with a silicone dildo balls deep in her cunt= fine?
A camgirl faking an orgasm with a pink vibrating egg in her pussy= not fine?

 

[Omne35]

Would any of the following make you happier?
A) All reactions are convincing and the sort of reaction you would hope to see (non-cheesy porn-type reactions) - any faking is done with enough attention to detail that you can't tell the difference;
B) All toys are on and all reactions are real, which might mean that she enjoys the sensation with a purr and a smile rather than moaning, screaming, and squirming.
C) All rooms with an active twat tail are clearly labelled so you can avoid them before entering.

I don't think zoobers gotten that far. I'm guessing we're still on principled indignation.

(personally B sounds good to me, I like purring.....)

 

[zoober]

So, which of the following is the problem?
1) You tip X to see a girl react to the vibe in a certain manner, but the exaggerations or outright faking are too obvious, which your cock finds unappealing, so you feel you didn't get the product you purchased;
2) You tip X to give a
C) All rooms with an active twat tail are clearly labelled so you can avoid them before entering.

Me think you conflate cos you got too much hate. There are two very obvious levels here. Will spell out for you, nice and simple

1) A cam girl exaggerates her response to what is in her tip menu but actually occurs say 70 seconds of ultra high vibrating pleasure
2) the fucker ain;t switched on the cam girll just jumps about for 70 seconds

1) strikes me as dandy and in a par with what normally happens, but, 2 - that a fake and a rip off and industry wide

 

[zoober]

principled indignation.

My go to spot for chatting about paying cam girls to wank one off is indeed principled indignation

 

[paige_orion]

Oh honey bee, here, put some reality in your pudding. Looking at the first page of chaturbate right now pretty much every model is using a tip activated toy. They in turn account for a disproportionate majority of the chaturbate audience.

Here, lets turn this around, cam girl folks on here, why you all pooh pooh any discussion of this?

And the difference is - regular show, ahh hell yeah a cam girl exaggerate and whoop it up. Bingo

But these toys - they say tip for X but X don;t happen, instead a cam girl typically jumps about

There's a difference

We aren't pooh-poohing any discussion - because there hasn't really been a discussion at all. You seem very set in your anger towards these tip toys, to the point where it almost seems like you are personally offended in a way that makes little sense. Models have been trying to tell you why they use it or why it isn't such a big deal. It doesn't seem like you are interested in a discussion at all, especially since your responses have been more about provoking the models who raise good points - calling them condescending pet names or implying that they think men are nasty and bad or acting like you have to dummy things down for us to understand, when that was never mentioned at all. If you try to act condescending instead of responding logically and with reason, you clearly don't want a discussion. You just want others to agree with your view on why these toys are so bad, when they are popular for a reason. Girls will follow the trends that make them money. There is nothing wrong with that.

You are angry that girls are being tipped for a toy to vibrate, yet the toy doesn't always vibrate. I don't understand why you are offended by this if everyone else is having fun. You don't have to spend your money on something that doesn't make you happy - but plenty of other people enjoy that show. Why is this so terrible to you, if everyone else is having a good time? Just find a different model.

What's so wrong with pleasure being exaggerated? Porn isn't real. It's all a show, smoke and mirrors. It always has been, and if you want something to be angry about or a more interesting discussion, then that's a better topic: why is honest pleasure harder to sell? Why is realism harder to sell? Why do guys pay more for the exaggeration, even when they know it isn't always real?

Even if the toys aren't always turned on, I don't see why it is a problem if everyone watching is grinning and having a great time. The point is, we do our jobs and give them a good show. Girls get tipped all of the time for a cum-show to happen, yet that cum-show isn't always real. You have seen more fake cum-shows than you know, and I don't see anger there. As long as everyone has a good time, what is the big deal? Dudes pay to be entertained, and models give them that entertainment. If the method of entertainment isn't your cup of tea, that's okay. Move on to someone else.

I guess I don't see the difference between one show being an exaggeration and that's okay, while a different show is just as exaggerated, yet is totally terrible in your eyes. It doesn't make sense.

We get it, you hate the toys. And you're not actually interested in a discussion, so really, what's the point?

 

[SaffronBurke]

industry wide

 

[AudriTwo]

Porn isn't real. It's all a show, smoke and mirrors.

 

[paige_orion]

I am a liar liar and my pants are on fiiiiiire! Sorry! Porn is real and everyone in it is real and being a delivery driver is like the best job eeeeevah!

Porn: Life's Greatest Teacher



P.S. Audri, you never fail to give me giggles. Thaaank you!

 

[Emberblaze]

All I'm really seeing here is "I DON'T LIKE A THING SO NOBODY ELSE CAN LIKE IT EITHER."

 

[Emberblaze]

They streamlined it a bit. Now the model just can generate the link and the member can dump it into normal chrome and it will work.

Originally only the Max and Nora worked but the lush works as well now. Can't speak for the rest of them.

The ambi from lovense and the soon to be shipped osci and domi can be controlled via link as well.

They just shipped out new prostate toys from the indigogo campaign as well but I can't say for sure if those can be web controlled as I didn't look into them.

I do shows with links for the nora/ambi/lush and it all works super well and easy from just about any browser except SM blocks links in chat so they have to message before hand. I've had clients control them from their phone and all different browsers.

 

[Guy]

Porn is real

Softcore isnt. https://www.thrillist.com/sex-datin...e-porn-work-are-actors-in-softcore-having-sex

 

[Ms_Gingersnatch]

Me think you conflate cos you got too much hate.

No hate at all! It was a real question, and not entirely directed at you. I don't have a tipping toy, and I'm not convinced that the lush would be as pleasurable as I'd like, so I don't really have any skin in this game. I'm just curious about the phenomenon.

Softcore isnt. https://www.thrillist.com/sex-datin...e-porn-work-are-actors-in-softcore-having-sex

I admire your dedication to citing a source. (Ok, I'm actually laughing pretty hard about this particular post, but in general, the ability to cite your source is admirable.)

 

[ExcellaExe]

All I'm really seeing here is "I DON'T LIKE A THING SO NOBODY ELSE CAN LIKE IT EITHER."

Ignore my fingers flailing at rating I'm sorry

 

[Deleted member 37064]

Me think you conflate cos you got too much hate. There are two very obvious levels here. Will spell out for you, nice and simple

1) A cam girl exaggerates her response to what is in her tip menu but actually occurs say 70 seconds of ultra high vibrating pleasure
2) the fucker ain;t switched on the cam girll just jumps about for 70 seconds

1) strikes me as dandy and in a par with what normally happens, but, 2 - that a fake and a rip off and industry wide

I'll agree that quite a few models do overexaggerate their responses because that's what most guys probably want to see. But, have seen some models be very sensitive to it whom I believe are telling the truth. So, can see how it may affect women differently.

As to it being off, I dunno. Most times can hear it hum if the camera is close to it.

Personally, I don't really like the use of them. It has changed the dynamics of a model's room on more than one occasion. But, if that is the direction she wants to go, who am I to stop her? She may or may not make more money with it than previously.

 

[zoober]

All I'm really seeing here is "I DON'T LIKE A THING SO NOBODY ELSE CAN LIKE IT EITHER."

Absolutely not; Again, back to the original point - So- sure, sure camming is fantasy and a hella good one at that cos it can be interactive., making it like lucid dreaming on steroids. At the same time there's quite a mechanistic aspect to it - tip X to see boobs, tip XX to see hot cam girl do the YY etc.,

Where the increasingly ubiquitous tip toys are different is that they move from exaggeration, performance, show, kayfabe etc., to simple fakery because the toys are so often switched off, battery flat, broken, not connected etc., at the same time as what is being sold is the notion of the user being able to control/influence things directly.

To me that disconnect is of interest and worth considering e.g. the desire for control and/or to interact, not simply something to be criticised

And 'fess up time - having kitted out a cam girl with lovense toys plural, I've got a reasonable idea as to how they work and also that youi can use them to do a mean
ELECTROLARYNX / Dalek impersonation

 

[Ms_Gingersnatch]

what is being sold is the notion of the user being able to control/influence things directly.

Ooooooh. That makes perfect sense.

I'm thinking that a broken/dead/turned off lush is sort of like the sex toy equivalent of playing a recorded video as your cam feed. If you took the "model" private and it became apparent that your interactive experience is just prerecorded porn, even if the video (by some miracle) included exactly what you wanted to see, it's pretty fucked up. You got to see the show you wanted, but you know it really had nothing to do with you, and that tarnishes it and significantly reduces the value of the "service" you received.