Nude to Non-Nude?

[Sith138]

Any idea why some girls have moved from shows to just non nude? MiniSKYY being one of them and it seems like AustinWhite has stopped doing public shower and sybian shows as well. Sorry if this has already been answered.

 

[NoelleBright]

Unless any of them have announced why on twitter or a blog, or explained it in their chatroom any reasons we could give you would just be speculation.

 

[Sith138]

seems to be a bit of a taboo topic for some reason. very hush hush.

 

[Shaun__]

Have you asked them? I find that when I start trying to guess the motivations of others I often am off by a large margin.

 

[NoelleBright]

seems to be a bit of a taboo topic for some reason. very hush hush.

Well because everyones reasons are different. It really wouldn't be fair for any of us to speak for anyone else.

Aside from personal curiosity, I'm not sure why a girls reasons even matter.
They already came to that decision, so there's nothing left to do but respect it.

 

[JickyJuly]

Probably tired of getting mooched off by the thousands :shock:

 

[skiphop90]

I guess they realised that their regulars will often tip them regardless.

 

[AmberCutie]

Probably a little bit of

I guess they realised that their regulars will often tip them regardless.

And a little bit of

Probably tired of getting mooched off by the thousands :shock:

But as stated, this is just speculation.

Honestly, if I could make the same income whilst being less naked/naked less often, as well as doing less group shows each week, I'd certainly go that route too.

 

[Evvie]

My ideal day job is sitting around in sweat pants and a tank top, drinking sodas with my feet on the table, and talking about topics which interest me. I will wear makeup when I feel like it.

MFC is - as far as I know - one of the very few sites which allows nudity in public chatrooms.

Models on other sites can be extremely successful without being nude for everyone passing through, and they can be on MFC as well.

As far as those specific models - none of us can say.

With models in general, though, nudity is a commodity. When there is a nudity embargo, nudity is worth more and models can increase their nudity's value, therefore earning more.

 

[Jessi J]

When I think about sexy women, I think of a woman in clothing that is form fitting, so I can see how she is shaped and what shape she is in, a little revealed, but not so little that she is wearing a cork and a bandaid, but enough to show she has something I want underneath.

When I see a fully naked woman then I know what she has and what she can offer and I have nothing to imagine. It's all there! I would like to wonder what she has going on and wonder what she can offer me.

I think there is an appeal to seeing a sexy woman, wanting and desiring what they have underneath and hoping one day I will see it. I get to know her, I get the girlfriend experience. I learn about her and what she wants. I get just enough teasing to make me stay and want more, but never so much that I feel like she is showing everyone everything she has to offer. I definitely think there is an appeal.

Also, why in the hell would I want to show 1,000 people my tits and pussy if they are gonna jerk off for two seconds then leave?

But what the hell do I know?

 

[AudreyAnna]

I thought Mini was always non-nude? She's so cute, I luv her! (in a totally non-creepster way ofcourse lol)

 

[ComicOzzie]

I'll tell you this... when a model is naked in free chat almost 100% of the time, that gets boring very fast.

 

[Bocefish]

I'll tell you this... when a model is naked in free chat almost 100% of the time, that gets boring very fast.

That depends on the model too, but I do get your point. MFC has something for just about everyone. Maybe the NN niche was/is doing well so they're trying something different. Could be a dozen different reasons :dontknow: but if that's what they wanna do and they can make $$ doing it, more power to 'em.

 

[Sith138]

I thought Mini was always non-nude? She's so cute, I luv her! (in a totally non-creepster way ofcourse lol)

she was doing full nude toy shows and selling pics and videos.

 

[Always_Tim]

I'll tell you this... when a model is naked in free chat almost 100% of the time, that gets boring very fast.

I must admit that I too spend more time with models who aren't naked all day. I certainly don't mind it when they're naked, but models who are naked all the time tend to be all shows and not much meaningful conversation. There's only so much time I can spend watching people masturbate. So 20 minutes of that, and I start looking for models who spend more time chatting.

The nude models certainly have an easier time making money in general. But there are a few exceptions who do amazingly well without being naked (e.g., cherrieCOLA). And of course there are lots of models who are happy with 1500-2000 camscores and would rather spend more time chatting and less time doing shows, as long as they can make their goals. Those are the ones I tend to spend more time with, but I admit that I also spend a certain amount of time with models who are nude most of the tiem and do a lot of shows. Just shorter bursts of time, as they don't keep my attention as long.


Back to the main topic of discussion...

There are lots of reasons to switch to non-nude or at least mostly non-nude. Changes in relationships, family issues, other jobs, etc. No use speculating what reason any particular model might have; it may even be the result of many different issues. Better just to ask politely (and accept "none of your business" as a valid response) than to gossip on a forum.

 

[Teagan]

but not so little that she is wearing a cork and a bandaid

This made me spit out my coffee is laughter lol.

Note to add though maybe they got fined for public shows and have eased off of them for now, maybe for good.
Also if you want to see them do those shows take them private to do so

 

[AmberCutie]

I'll tell you this... when a model is naked in free chat almost 100% of the time, that gets boring very fast.

If that's the way the majority of you feel, I may need to rethink how I've been doing my MFC sessions for the past 2.5 years.

 

[Evvie]

I'll tell you this... when a model is naked in free chat almost 100% of the time, that gets boring very fast.

If that's the way the majority of you feel, I may need to rethink how I've been doing my MFC sessions for the past 2.5 years.

I personally don't like being naked because I find I have so much less to work with. I enjoy teasing quite a bit. When I've run out of things to say I can start flirting with the cam and showing bits & pieces. It's totes awesome.

I can say that the few times I have bought tokens for models who weren't my friends, it was because they were teasing the room so well that I genuinely wanted to see some damn pussy. Teases are total turn-ons for me and I imagine for many members, knowing that everything they want is just under the surface is maddening.

 

[Always_Tim]

I'll tell you this... when a model is naked in free chat almost 100% of the time, that gets boring very fast.

If that's the way the majority of you feel, I may need to rethink how I've been doing my MFC sessions for the past 2.5 years.

Well, what you do really works for you. I definitely enjoy watching you do your thing. I just can't spend 5 hours doing so, whereas I can spend 5 hours talking to certain models. But those models can't have a big crowd the way you can, because they're spending a lot more time having a conversation. And that doesn't scale up to large numbers of people as well. So it's an issue of a few guys for longer periods of time, versus huge crowds of guys who each stick around for a shorter amount of time. But with what you do there will be a continuous flow of more guys coming through, and the huge crowds are going to bring in more tokens, pretty much every time.

 

[AmberCutie]

I'll tell you this... when a model is naked in free chat almost 100% of the time, that gets boring very fast.

If that's the way the majority of you feel, I may need to rethink how I've been doing my MFC sessions for the past 2.5 years.

Well, what you do really works for you. I definitely enjoy watching you do your thing. I just can't spend 5 hours doing so, whereas I can spend 5 hours talking to certain models. But those models can't have a big crowd the way you can, because they're spending a lot more time having a conversation. And that doesn't scale up to large numbers of people as well. So it's an issue of a few guys for longer periods of time, versus huge crowds of guys who each stick around for a shorter amount of time. But with what you do there will be a continuous flow of more guys coming through, and the huge crowds are going to bring in more tokens, pretty much every time.

Yeah it's really hard to have both great token income and very intimate chats. (Intimate meaning a very small tight knit group of chatters in a conversation, not intimate as in the sexytimes way.) I think I've found a good balance for myself and while I do wish I could have the best of both worlds, I know I can't have my cake and eat it too.

 

[bob]

hmmm....i know one reason
an eastern european studio model acquaintance of mine was never comfortable with nude, but went with it because she was told it was expected if she wanted to earn money...

as she became more familiar with camland, she began to see there were a few exceptions to the studio's "nude" expectations...
then one of her shows was capped and showed up on the porn sites

she's been nn ever since

before anybody else says it....yeah, there's a certain amount of "moral hypocrisy" in her story. imo....but so be it....not all of us can be saints :lol:

and she's carved out a pretty successful little niche for herself, making some good money.

so if you look at it as her personal journey, it's kinda cool :thumbleft:

 

[ElaySmith]

As a model that is trying to move more toward pvt/grp shows I will give you my :twocents-02cents: on the subject! Granted I have not spoke with either model mentioned here and can only speak from my personal experience.

First let me say that I am no longer on MFC like I used to be. I have been making appearances to keep up with my regulars but by no means am I on a regular schedule there anymore. Before I took a break last summer I did a public show everyday! People used to pay really good for them, countdowns were met in a timely manner and more people threw in a few tokens here and there to help with the countdown. When I came back it seemed as if my regulars were the only ones tipping or I would get some random guy to tip most of my count down. While this is fine, I don't like that people now expect 1 or 2 people to tip the countdown while the rest just set back and enjoy. I realize this has always been the case with public shows BUT to me it seems to be on a whole new level now.

I currently prefer to sell vids and take groups and pvt while doing a naked countdown or countdown for oil or shower in public chat. I still get naked in public, I still do shows but not hardcore shows. The exception to this is if I have something special planned out in public or if a lot of my room has been generous and I feel like I want to reward them.

 

[Red7227]

I'll tell you this... when a model is naked in free chat almost 100% of the time, that gets boring very fast.

If that's the way the majority of you feel, I may need to rethink how I've been doing my MFC sessions for the past 2.5 years.

Hell No! I like a model for various reasons, but all things being equal I would choose a room where the girl is naked over one where she is not every time. Even if they are dressed, I will stick to models that show some effort in their dress, rather than those just laying on their bed is sweats and a tee shirt. I like beautiful things, be it shoes, or dresses or underwear. Some girls make a huge production each time they come on, and their success is reflected in their cam scores.

I can say that the few times I have bought tokens for models who weren't my friends, it was because they were teasing the room so well that I genuinely wanted to see some damn pussy. Teases are total turn-ons for me and I imagine for many members, knowing that everything they want is just under the surface is maddening.

The alternative is to just come back an hour later when someone else has done all the work and get free pussy. I tip for what i like, and for the most part, that isn't just teasing. This is not to say I don't like girls flashing their girlie bits, but just that it is not the reason i would stay in a room.

 

[HoldItNow]

I remember when this switch happened for Mini. I do believe it had something to do with discovery as she blocked out most regions in Canada now. She had enough of a following that they didn't mind the switch.

There's a myriad of reasons for models to make the switch but in my opinion the top one seems to be finding out that caps are floating around. I know it's hard for the "LOLZ! IT'S THE INTERNET! WHAT DID YOU EXPECT?" crowd to understand but some people do see a difference in being on MFC where they are in control and being plastered across the internet for anyone to find. I know a non-nude in public model that quit because someone got aggressive in trying to find any caps of her.

So in summation, if you see a model go to non-nude, it's just because she isn't comfortable being nude. Not much more to it.

 

[AudreyAnna]

HoldItNow -You got it right on. A lot of people seem to mock some camgirls who need their privacy/anonymity..they say " Oh you work as a camgirl on the internet and you don't want people to see you? Yeah Right!"

Well, I think that is totally valid and understandable. Big difference between having control over what certain people see on one site... rather than anybody at all being able to see you allover the place.

 

[RussianXXtasy]

there is really only 1 reason for nude models to go non nude

if their biggest client demands it

but if someone was paying me to NOT take my clothes off, fuck ya' i'd wear a robe and socks

 

[Teagan]

there is really only 1 reason for nude models to go non nude

if their biggest client demands it

but if someone was paying me to NOT take my clothes off, fuck ya' i'd wear a robe and socks

Ive seen tons of shows that include tipping to put clothes back on lol. Theyre quiet fun and a good game and sport is made of it.

Maybe theyre just tryin something new and seeing how it goes. Switching from public to private shows only.

Or maybe they got tired of those guys who always yell "SHOW FEET BB" right when youre about to cum

 

[Jessi J]

I have had guys tip for me NOT to do a show, that's when we are laughing and having fun and it kills the moment to have 200 additional people come in just to watch me play with myself.

I have had guys tip to put number ON the board or goal. Some even tip and ask for it not to come off of the goal. It's ALL about what the guys want, they usually tell you and if it happens to be non - nude, personal chats, then why not?

 

[JenniCooper]

When people record our public shows and post it over the Internet for anyone to see, it defeats the purpose of the location block feature on myfreecams or any other cam site.

As camgirls, we can't control whether our shows are recorded and posted elsewhere, but we can certainly reduce the chances of it happening by saving playtime for group shows and privates. I still go topless in public chat... Each girl has her reasons.

 

[Sith138]

When people record our public shows and post it over the Internet for anyone to see, it defeats the purpose of the location block feature on myfreecams or any other cam site.

As camgirls, we can't control whether our shows are recorded and posted elsewhere, but we can certainly reduce the chances of it happening by saving playtime for group shows and privates. I still go topless in public chat... Each girl has her reasons.

i'm V E R Y happy just seeing you topless that's plenty to get me rowdy! :-D